The Oldest Bible Different From The New One

[rcarlomagnus]

Based on Evidence the Gospel of John is the oldest...

[DrDhakna]

Jesus had a brother ???? wait a minute ... that just adds another twist in the mystery of trinity. You have God, the holy spirit , the son, and now you got a son's brother which means God has had TWO sons or else how can they both be brothers? Something isn't right with this entire trinity story at all.

[GoyUnHuman]

@DrDhakna the trinity was an old animiste pagan belief that the roman empire developed (Triumirat where Caesar is the son of god) , Constantine the Emperor and Caesar was auto proclaimed son of god and he who forced it in the Nicea coucil of 325.

[imnotabear]

it may be that a man called Jesus lived an gained a following for his deeds but the story that was written after him was based on Egyptian sun worship. That is easy to see.

[imnotabear]

*grab* can I hold it?

erm..

I'm not wearing gloves, is that ok?

erm...

LOL

[Gnottason]

so much denial here

[Qorlaq]

Wow, that's some tip-top scholarship there. The things people will advocate to sell books and get on Discovery/History Channel are, apparently, limitless.

[zilexxx]

I like how islam makes people dumb first the book is not 2000 years old ,second its written in greek not aramaic ,and third it denies virgin birth of christ ,so it denies Islam too ahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[teslic100]

@zilexxx it does not deny the virgin birth, it simply does not state anything about it

pay attention more

[zilexxx]

@teslic100 teslic i stated that cause of some dumb people are trying to use it as something that confirms their religion when it clearly is not,and if you need proofs that Islam is false and muhammed is false prophet and a liar according to quran and his own words that he said on his death bed just tell me and ill send you refernce material from your own Quran and Sahih Bukhari most trusted Hadith .

[teslic100]

anybody that can say that something is wrong in the Quran

please comment

[zilexxx]

@teslic100 read the comment before this ahahahahahahahaha.

[zlambiara]

Christianity is a religion named after the son of the mighty one but he did not founded. Christianity is the way of the holy son to do what the mighty father told 2 do 2 others. it is D teaching of god to human. the order of god or his rules is written 2 D holy book. Now D holy book . It was revise translated from D very first it was discovered it was then filtered before it was publish from countless revision mayB unintentional D authors perception misled D true thoughts of the original context

[Lion21Black]

the slaveery of ur mind....fo all u christians

[rhdtv2002]

@ukzane1986 I dont have hate myself but the reason people do you can answer that yourself. Look at the reality. Muslim come killing in the name of ALLAH - many terrorist do this and it is them who have made us christians look at Muslims in a different light. It is them YOU need to first save if you feel your religion does save. Sorry that many muslim suffer unnecessarily - but that stems directly by your own who have create fear in others and how they view.

[generalzeedot]

@rhdtv2002 no they are not killing in the name of Allah, they are killing for political reasons its very easy to smear religions due to the actions of people who claim to acting on behalf of them.

the largest groups of terrorists in the past 50 years have been the maoists/communists only 6% of terrorist attack have been commited by muslim but even 6% is disgusting i agree. so please look with in an open mind and im sure youll see past the falsehood.

[rhdtv2002]

@generalzeedot I agree that they are not truly but they say it and they recite Quran text that clearly talks about their agenda..So please - go to them first and ask them why they do this..

[photon72]

Word to every religion believers: You can kill each other over fairy tales all you want but let us atheist and science believers alone.

[TheFatpeoples]

Fucking dirty muslims, drty-rat like Jews, and worst of all, bible humping Christians.

Fuck your religion, fuck your "beliefs" But most of all, fuck you.

[izri1]

The truth is lying in front of you for more than 1400 years disbelieving christian pigs.

The Quran.But you refuse to believe in it.You refuse to believe in the words of you Creator.You choose to believe in something for your own satisfaction.Gods last messenger,Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him,allready brought you Gods last word and you still decide to be lost and looking for the truth.

What excuse will you have on the day of judgement for you Lord?Christianity will make you enter Hell.

[generalzeedot]

@izri1 brother please do not be rude to them we need to be better than this when replying to people

[teslic100]

@izri1 thank god somebody agrees with me

[izri1]

The truth is lying in front of you for more than 1400 years disbelieving christian pigs.

The Quran.But you refuse to believe in it.You refuse to believe in the words of you Creator.You choose to believe in something for your own satisfaction.Gods last messenger,Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him,allready brought you Gods last word and you still decide to be lost and looking for the truth.

What excuse will you have on the day of judgement for you Lord?Christianity will make you enter Hell.

[izri1]

The truth is lying in front of you for more than 1400 years disbelieving christian pigs.

The Quran.But you refuse to believe in it.You refuse to believe in the words of you Creator.You choose to believe in something for your own satisfaction.Gods last messenger,Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him,allready brought you Gods last word and you still decide to be lost and looking for the truth.

What excuse will you have on the day of judgement for you Lord?Christianity will make you enter Hell.

[unpredictable420]

After all these years you think the Creator Yahweh would have let a holy book be altered from the beginning of time? Perhaps,! like the story of babel in the old testament, to confuse us alittle but dont stray from the stories for they are good, a life lesson for our time for our portion is not very long on this earth. Enjoy life for even the angels do not have this glory of freedom!

[murrayoflight]

Who is this jesus? my Helper is YHWH the same word that became flesh, the wonderful counselor, emmanuel he was always known as Yesu Ha mashiach. look at older bibles pre 1611 none had jesus? you have been lied to consider Pro30:4 older bibles like tyndale,bishops, matthews all have IESU pronounced YESU only one name under heaven saves Yesu Christ HalleluYah my Yesu

[mosihasteen]

The audio sucks

[Duck4212]

Now I know for sure that Jesus was the son of God and was devine.

[gregrutz]

Yup, Religion is really fucked up.

[jamesbombable]

Did not the word are new testament say that he came as a servant for are sake ,so when they say Jesus servant at the time of the writing

[snnicky]

The title used is misleading, as if to say the Bible's not accurate. Many letters were not "canonized", meaning they were used by the earliest believers but had not yet been put together in a multi book form like we have today. The Bible simply means The Books (from the Latin Biblia) The book of James in no way shows Jesus as less than divine. It is included in the Bible and is very good. Read it as well as Matthew and John and the other books!!

[TheEditorZack]

@snnicky u r wrong.....please read...for the entire word.......

theres a lot of difference....

[snnicky]

@TheEditorZack -. Have you read that Muhammad said his teachings would be distorted after he died?

Vol 9, Bk 88, No.174:

Narrated Sahl bin Sa'd:

I heard the Prophet saying, ...There will come to me some people whom I know and they know me, and then a barrier will be set up between me and them." .. It will be said, 'You do not know what changes and new things they did after you.' Then I will say, 'Far removed (from mercy), far removed (from mercy), those who changed (the religion) after me! "

[snnicky]

@TheEditorZack -Another one: (Bukhari)Volume 9, Book 88, Number 173:

Narrated 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount (Kauthar) and some men amongst you will be brought to me, and when I will try to hand them some water, they will be pulled away from me by force whereupon I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' Then the Almighty will say, 'You do not know what they did after you left, they introduced new things into the religion after you.'"

[Supenmanu]

Of course people durring the lifetime of Jesus saw him as a human. He is standing right before them, how could they not see him as human? And on top of that - he was accused of being a Sharlatan and cult leader. So if his followers where to worship him too much it would only speed up his cruzification. I think they only really realised that he was divine after his resurection. Jesus criticized Judaism for become more of a money making company. And nowadays the Church acts the same.

[Omarh96]

@Supenmanu if you were in the presence of god, you would notice it, and when jesus was born, he was human, yes? so how can he magically transform himself to a god? EVERY miracle that jesus preformed was due to the will of god.

[YoureSmokingCrack]

@Supenmanu

first learn to spell and then learn what you are talking about. ^^ when you get to the source of truth,you will see that God is one and only one and realize that his name is Allah and Islam is the truth...

[knowthelight]

@YoureSmokingCrack i must correct you. Allah is not a name. It s a title,it comes from al-ilah, the god. The Torah says Gods name is YHWH. The hebrew texts mention YHWH thousands of times. So we know the name of God. When you read a Bible and see LORD in capitals the translaters have replaced the devine name YHWH.This is blasphemy to take out Gods name,as it is to replace it with any other name.'I am YHWH your God...you must not have any other gods against my face'. Exodus 20;2-3.

[YoureSmokingCrack]

@knowthelight

thats what was revealed to the tribe of Israel,

Yet some of those "children" would alter what was given to them

You know the whole Gods chosen people thing

Chrsitians believe Jesus was God, or son of God which to them is the same thing

It was revealed to Mohammad that there is no god but God, and it was his lifes mission to spread this message. No one knows the exact name of God, so please dont go around correcting anyone

if you dont know the true answer yourself...

[harvcta]

you miss the point there was NO 1st century christianity, yahshua aka (jesus christ) had attrbutes added to him hundreds of years later he didnt come to found a new religion christian church or any other religon he came for his people the lost sheep of israel no pagans no gentiles no one but israel, his original followers or beilevers as there are called where judah, they went to the known world to bring the lost tribes back to the land of there forfathers. read careful the KJV you will see that

[db4805]

How would an orthodox hebrew know what the1st century Christian believed?

Test the spirits for not every spirit is from God. Read Mark 5:37. Matthew17:1, Then read John1:1, The book of Galatians. Romans Chapter 1, Romans 16:17-20, 1John4:15,1John 5:1 -21, Romans 8, Isaiah8 and 9, Isaiah 53

[redeemer61190]

Is this from a TV series, documentary, movie? Whats it called?

[harvcta]

@redeemer61190 

[Joe1987ification]

All I can say is that the discussed document the Didache is not a part of the Bible and never was. However it was an instruction manual for early Christians. Among the things it mentioned were Baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. As well a the Eucharist which honors Christ' death and resurrection. Yeah still no Muslim Jesus to be found there lol not sure why they use this other than to misguide or maybe the just haven't read it lol

[ronoman88]

@Joe1987ification You are absolutely right. It is always some "British" cockamamie production with "A Black Host" to give it a little authentic PC stupidity.

[bornagain001]

This video is going on two years old. HOW LONG before it causes the downfall of God's INFALLIBLE WORD?

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 It won't because fundies like you are too damned afraid to accept reality. You are psychotic and have this batter spouse complex. Look at you. You'd rather believe that a loving God will torture people forever than believe that it just ends at death.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 God didn't write the bible. Stop being so fucking arrogant to think that the creator of the universe, if one even exists, actually gives two fucks about you, an insignificant germ on a little speck of dust, and not about the starving children who COUNTLESS people no doubt have prayed for!

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 "CORRECT. It is God INSPIRED." No, it's not even that.

By what AUTHORITY do you know that this is Gods purpose for them?

[bornagain001]

@JonathanClement140 "Christians get their PURPOSE from God. The unbeliever ...HAS NO PURPOSE."

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 Wrong on both counts! Your purpose is whatever you make it.

[bornagain001]

God EXISTS...and we have EXACTLY what He wants us to have. God is not in heaven saying, "Oh NO...they have left out 2 books I wanted them to put in."

God is in control so there is no sense in worring about the authenticity of the Bible.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 Uh, yes there IS! "Lets just blindly accept that bible is true! The bible is true because it says it's true, and its the word of God, and God never lies, so therefore, the bible is true! Seriously, you are so warped..

[bornagain001]

@JonathanClement140 INCORRECT. The Bible is true because God uses His infallible Word to speak to us. PLUS...it's never been proven to have been wrong.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 "The Bible is true because God uses His infallible Word to speak to us."

HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S GODS WORD? That's CIRCULAR REASONING!

And yes, it IS wrong! In SEVERAL places, but when someone points it out, you just claim it's a satanic conspiracy and that 2 + 2 really does equal five! Wake up! Take THIS life seriously and forget about the scam that is heaven and hell!

[bornagain001]

@JonathanClement140 "Take THIS life seriously and forget about the scam that is heaven and hell!"

By WHAT AUTHORITY do you KNOW that Heaven and Hell are a scam? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE produce your evidence. Because I KNOW from talking to you, you demand evidence....so lets see it.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 Prove to me that you won't burn in hell for eternity if you fail to give me $1,000,000! What?! You cant?! WELL, THEN, GIVE ME $1,000,000! YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL IF YOU DON'T! YOU CAN'T PROVE YOU WON'T, SO YOU WILL!

[bornagain001]

@JonathanClement140 " Prove to me that you won't burn in hell for eternity if you fail to give me $1,000,000! "

PROOF IS SUBJECTIVE. There are those who have seen the movies,pictures and read the books about the HOLOCAUST...and still live in denial despite all the proof. YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 "YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT."

And neither are you. Everything about this worlds says that a God isn't in control. Everything about hell says that it was made up by men to scare others into submission. But the fear of death is just too big of a stumbling block for you, isn't it?

[bornagain001]

@JonathanClement140 Everything about this worlds says that a God isn't in control.

That's not what He told me today.

[JonathanClement140]

@bornagain001 That's right, it isn't what he told you. He didn't tell you anything.

[caddy1010]

Jude, Jesus little brother sure looks like a black man. At the least nothing like the blonde haired blue eyed person.

[modernrocks]

alomost the whole world is sill against the lord jesus 2000 years later....

[WooDaInspirater]

@modernrocks 2000 yrs ago there was no one named Jesus. The letter J is less than 500 yrs old. If Salvation only comes through Belief on His Name that He was originally given,then why is every one believing in the false name Jesus & not in His Original Name Yahushua. Yahushua is the name the Messiah was prophesied to have in Zechariah 6:12 & it is the name the Apostles proclaimed. Yahushua told us not to be Deceived. 2000 yrs later the world is still against the Master Yahushua!

[modernrocks]

@WooDaInspirater all the hebrew names have been translated in to greek an english yeshua or yahushua hamashiach is lord. his name is pronounced differently in different langauges. as long as you follow the yeshua jesus from the kjv bible you are good.

[WooDaInspirater]

@modernrocks Names are to be Transliterated so they carry the Same Pronunciation from its Original Language to another language. Yahushua is the Original Pronunciation of The Mashiyach's Name from the Hebrew Language. So no matter what language The Scriptures were translated into The Mashiyach's Name should've been kept & pronounced the same. Of course the Name should be spelled using that Particular Language's Alphabet characters but the Pronunciation should come out to be Yahushua!

[WooDaInspirater]

@modernrocks The Hebrew Name of Yahushua is the Name that The Mashiyach was Prophesied to have, the Name the the Angel Gabrial gave to Mary, & the Name that the Apostles taught & Baptised in. The Scriptures teach in Acts4:12 that "there is none other name under heaven given among men WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED". So no one had The Right to translate his name into another language. The Prime Minister of Israel name is Netanyahu which is Hebrew. Your name stays the same no matter what language.

[LIVERLADD]

"Before Abraham I am" The Bible of today is consistent with the oldest bible.

[litefogg]

The dead sea scrolls are consistent with the Torah and Bible. They were recently discovered. How did someone falsify all of that and make it match? I didn't just do a quick browse for support of my statement, I actually made a (highly comprehensive) website, to show you over 50 Torah (old testament) messianic prophesies, that authenticate the deity of Jesus. (webdb. co. cc.) Remove the spaces. It is impossible, for one man to fulfill these messianic prophecies, by chance. Tell me your thoughts.

[snnicky]

James doesn't refer to his "brother" Jesus as divine?

How does the letter of James start?

1:1 - "James, servant of God AND of the Lord Jesus Christ."

2:1-"My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ,"

[pradaluggage2]

@snnicky

Lord is a Title of respect, sorta like Sir, not a divine title. If you are renting you pay rent to a LandLord, would he or she be your God? the title Lord is still used in England, such as Lord Vaux of Harrowden. Only one God and its not a man name Jesus, Study your Bible, without the OT the NT crumbles, without the NT the OT still stands. So study scripture from the OT that is all the apostles had during their time, The NT became cannon 300 yrs after, get your study game up!

[DaughterOfAsena]

I love Jesus. He too was God's servant. God is One.

[truthhitmanisback]

Everyone quotes the New Testament , but not the Old Testament. In the Book of Joel 2:32-32 Its says whosover calls on the name of God shall be saved, not the name Jesus. What Christians have done is change the names around from Jesus to Yahushua. Its still Christianity but with Hebrew names. Yahushua could not have been God since Isaiah 43:10 says that there is only ONE God. St. Paul started it , changing the true faith into the Osirus of Egypt's faith. Osirus Judged for his Father.

[mysty0]

Not once does it use a single scripture.., just mans insertions telling you what to think

[MikhalisBramouell]

Sounds like the Nestorian Heresy (431 AD), teaching that Christ is not God's son. Muhammed learned his theology from a Nestorian priest who was the uncle of one of Muhammed's wives. Muhammed then combined this with Zoroastrianism and began converting the Middle East, starting with Medina.

[Hinaisthebest]

@MikhalisBramouell  you are an idiot.

[MikhalisBramouell]

Nice argument.

[DaughterOfAsena]

There is one God, the Old Testament teaches you that- you should refer to it more often. All prophets were sent to teach this one ultimate fact, including Prophet Muhammed.

[oombuddah]

8:12 - a series of mystical visions which contradict eachother massively on two or three different accounts, check it out on Sami Zaatari's website and the unveiling christianity website by Ibn Anwar.

[oombuddah]

7:14 - who else is the corrupter but Paul?!

Paul and his followers slithered their way like serpents into corrputing the oral traditions so it would be confused, and fused with the original faith, so the product of the corruption we see today is in the gospels. And that remember what Dr. Eisenman says in one of his lectures - that The gospels were quoting Paul and not the other way around.

[grengerx]

@oombuddah Every time Isee writings like yours I recall the words of the Lord Jesus as in Matthew 12:34 (New International Version)

34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.

[truthhitmanisback]

Correction : Why shouldnt the church be question about their white supremacy ? And why do white people have a problem with that?

[flyn2myhome]

Mathew 7:15-16 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

[gerryboy101]

the catholic church has the correct bible. take it or leave it

[icthus560]

I'll leave it, thanks

[MarkToTheSky]

haha, that's hilarious..

[TomVu99]

That book is a gnostic text.

[lamentations32223]

"The method of having the leaves held together - in the form we know as a book did not originate until about the 2nd cent. AD ...

[ted2924]

When was this copy of the handbook written?

[Oallos1]

The handbook mentioned in the video is certainly NOT as old as is claimed. Name me one book from that time that has survived to this day? There are none, except of course the dead sea scrolls. The dead sea scrolls meanwhile only survived because they were stored in special containers and left alone for 1000s of yrs. Any book that gets regular use will fall apart after a few hundred years, let alone 1000s. That book was either never used b/c it was heretical, or is simply not as old as claimed.

[XRRfan]

man UR wrong on so many things no where does it say the gospel according to john ....john didnt write that "according to" it might be added N your bible or u might b jUSt making it up any ways. HE waS A EYE WITNESS TO JESUS ON THE CROSS you obviously dont study your a liar.2 PROVE my point read john19:26 john is the BELOVED DISCIPLE . also at The end of john21:21-25. john 21:24 THIS IS THE DISCIPLE WHO TESTIFIES OF THESE THINGS> AND WROTE THESE THING AND WE KNOW HIS TESTIOMY IS TRUE. GOD BLESS U

[XRRfan]

1 more thing the oldest bible the codex sinaticus written in greek is still around in GREAT condition and it doesnt contradict what we have now...one thing is for sure the GOD of the bible IS NOT the ALLAH of the QU'RAN ....i think that is one thing we can agree on.[maybe not some like to think they are the same but if that was true they would say the same things which they do not} to a muslim to call ALLAH his father[spiritually of course} would be blasphemy. so obviously they are not the same.

[XRRfan]

you know what "I AM " means? since u studied the bible for 22 years what did yahweh call himself when he was talking 2 moses tell me that? Jesus said before abraham was "I AM" what does that mean scholar? ME and my father are 1? hmm if you see me then you have seen the father? when he asked the disciples who do people say that i am, then who do you say i am? hmm then read isaiah7:14 when it says a boy will be born to a virgin ,immanuel{meaning GOD WITH US}. prophecy revealed..i doubt you study

[SmalltimR]

@XRRfan

Well I do know this, It was not I AM :)

BTW. the capital letters are inappropriate also. These were altercations made later in the text.

Anyways, your argument is completely flawed. I'm not arguing against Jesus' divinity(there's no doubt about that). However, I challenge anyone to show a convincing and "accurate" argument using the "I AM" claim from the scriptures. Which is just patently false.

[XRRfan]

again john was an eyewitness 2 jesus he was the beloved disciple matthew also was disciple. what is funny though is that the gospels do not contradict each other so if some one wouldve lied and said this or that it would b outta line with the other another testament to the new testament. i would rather go by someone that was a disciple of jesus than someone that lived 500-600 years later and NEVER knew him...i dont care what your profession is. what stuff didnt jesus say ? i know he siad "I AM"

[j400wel]

what

john was not there when jesus was on the cross

what is meant by-no man has seen god.

[truthhitmanisback]

No offence to my white brothers but , put your feelings aside for a sec, why do white historians lie ? Look at this video, and all the people being tricked and decieved. If Hell fire is real then why do they have a habit of conmanship, and trecherously lying as their History exposes them? They were the ones who corrupted Christianity and used racism by showing Jesus as white, against what it says in Deuteronomy 4:16. These people are responsible for other people being racist in their faith.

[icthus560]

I don't believe Jesus ever existed, but if he had been alive then he would have looked the same as everyone else in the region, he would have looked middle eastern. Jesus is portrayed as white in the west, just as he is portrayed as Asian in Asia. No experts that I know of denies or lies about his skin color. What is more important is why you think his skin color matters.

[truthhitmanisback]

@icthus560 Its the Vatican , and churches around the world that uses images to make everybody collectively think he is white.  My opposers are the ones who have a problem with it. If Deuteronomy 4:16 says it is an abomination to God, then why should the church be questioned ? And middle eastern dont mean Asian. Black people were in that region before any other race existed. They are the first humans according to Dna evidence. Dr. Jane Elliot is one of a few honest white people.

[icthus560]

The point I was trying to make was that historically people have given Christ the color and facial features of whatever cultural background they belonged to. In Asia they portrayed him as being Asian, while in Greece they gave him Greek features. In fact, if you go to the silk road where Asian and occidental cultures met and intermingled you'll find images of Christ with both Asian and White features. People aren't trying to trick anyone into thinking he was white.

[icthus560]

There was a lot of interaction between Arab people and African, especially in the area between Ethiopia and Yemen, but don't think its important whether he was black, white, or any other color. No one is trying to belittle you by saying he was white, you and your ancestors just had the misfortune of being placed against their will in a foreign culture. For the sake of argument lets say your right and Jesus was black, what does that change about his life or his message?

[truthhitmanisback]

@icthus560 Fair point...

[MarieDevine]

The Bible we have has the full Gospel, speaking of God, our Father and Jesus Christ showing two distinct entities. Christianity is corrupted. Jesus said to live by every word of God. That would include Torah and Prophets. Muhammad came 600+AD to correct errors saying to follow the whole Bible (Ahmad. Qur'an 5.68, 69; 42.14-16). God and the word in Christ was divine, God's blood in Christ was shed on Calvary for our sins, (virgin birth: science: fathers give blood to child). Genesis 9:4

[palermo131]

Jesus IS LORD.

Take note, the un-canonized text here mentioned, never denies Christ's deity, only it never asserts it.

The modern un-godly trend is to assume that because a text is old and bears some similarity to a sacred text then it automatically is a sacred text.

It is utter foolishness to call this text the key to unlocking the Bible or Jesus' true message. That distinction belongs to the Holy Ghost (Jn. 16:13) who never would have hid such a key for 2000 years.

[rahim4411]

Can you show me in any text where Jesus says "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME" Can you show me? I see in the Bible numerous places where God says "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME, THERE IS NONE ELSE LIKE ME". So if Jesus is Lord God then you should lead me to one verse in the Bible.

[palermo131]

John 5:8

Philipians 2:6

Mattew16:15-17

Before you say these verses are no evidence, a simple illustration: How many ways are there to say "I am an American"?

"I live in New York"

"I live in a house in Kentucky"

"My brothers and sisters, who were born in Chicago, are all of similar height as me"

"My U.S. Passport is blue"

"I like hambugers, they were invented in my hometown"

Alone, no single phrase would lead you to a firm conclusion. Collectively...well....you get the idea.

[XRRfan]

to Rahim4411 im about 2 goto work but i will give you the verses . things you say prove 2 me you dont read the bible much at all or have little knowledge. 1 john was a eye witness he was the beloved disciple,2.matthew also,3. there is a book of peter which is another eyewitness. so much for no eye witness {muhammad wasnt a eye witness}. there are verse in the old testament and the new that said jesus was worshipped and he didnt stop them. read isaiah 53 prophecy of jesus suffering for our sin.

[rahim4411]

what are you talking about? John was not there when Jesus was put on the cross and if you read the beginning of John it says "THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN". THAT'S not him talking because if he was writing that the letter would never say "ACCORDING TO'. I know the Bible and I have studied it for 22 years. You don't know it. I work in a law firm too and when I am writing a letter directly to someone I would never say "According to Rahim", why would I do that when I am Rahim?

[GracefullyGrowing]

All I can say is, I am glad this is finally reaching SOME people. I'm thankful.

[ravingranjeev]

wow see this is the stuff christians are all scared they carnt handle the truth

[rahim4411]

Exactly, Jesus never said half the stuff the christains tag him with. Think about this and go and look in the Bible, Jesus does not have a Gospel, I dare anyone to find "THE GOSPEL OF JESUS" in the Bible, Yet Matthew has one, Mark, Luke, and John, ACCORDING to them. These people werent' even eyewitnesses. Oh to bust a bubble there is no man named Jesus in those times, Jesus is not a Hebrew-Jew word, they don't have J's in Hebrew-Aramaic, if you don't believe me look it up.

Peace

[palermo131]

Jesus is a translation, not a transliteration. The Hebrew word you are looking for is "Yeshua". This is similar to Joshua. Both mean "Saviour".

The Bible is 2 Testaments which means to bear witness to, like testimony.

You don't actually think that it never occurred to the thousands of Christian scholars that Jesus never wrote a gospel do you? All the gospel accounts collude, so what's the problem?

[palermo131]

Be careful of coming off like you had access to a time machine. We weren't anywhere 2000 yrs. ago. It really comes down to each man taking on faith the information he has been given. I trust that you are sincere in your quest. Can you accept the same may be true of others who believe different from you? Is your information better? Why?