Normalizing is the whole point of the gay rights movement. Hell, we still have large numbers of people that hate black people for no substantive reason. It's going to take decades for gay people to be fully accepted as a normal part of society. It seems that people in general have this yearning to hate what is different or condemn and restrict those things that they don't like. Those who complain the loudest against gay rights are those who would kill to maintain their own rights.
I love when people say the best thing about being gay is not having to get married. No one has to get married you moron. How is that a plus for gays?
Btw, did abolition and the civil rights act destroy "black culture?" Even if they did, would anyone use that as an argument against abolition or civil rights?
@joshgodawful : I'm going to say this one more time and I'm going to say it on behalf of all black people as a black women. Use your own fucking arguments and not ours. Do not use black people as your poster child to bring across your arguments. Most gay white folks have been benefactors (as most whites) of privileges most black people can only dream of at one time in history or even today and at our expense. Your "plight" comes from a behavioral perspective, not ethnic or racial.
I think she was just trying to be funny -- that's a funny thing to say about the two things gay people want. I think she's obviously for gay marriage and gays in the military.
@sheLovesG I think she's smart enough to truly understand why gays wants these rights, and she's just taking that position to make a funny point. In any case. But maybe you're right, who knows.
I'm gay, and see her points and agree,somewhat.That said, there is always the other side of the coin of repression causing people to live lives as outcasts and in misery.So Fran, if that's how you want to live your life so you can feel "special", go for it I've been in that place and now much prefer this new world where your sexuality is insignificant when connecting and relating to others.I think the maturation process involves realizing and understanding we're not all that different, after all
What I think she fails to realize is that homosexuals are fighting for marriage because we are tired of not recieving the same benefits of a relationship that heterosexuals do. If my partner were dying in the hospital, but I wouldn't be allowed to see him, I would be livid. And there are gay people that are patriotic and want to serve their country.
@TomsFriendKake I think part of her point, no explicit here but that she mentions in some of her other interviews, is that marriage and the military are NOT creating an interesting Gay culture; in fact, in a sense it's destroying the art, reflection and rebellion that makes Gay culture what - hate to say this - what it once WAS.
@IzzyIsou that sounds awfully similar to what fans of 'obscure' artists say when their beloved artist gains more mainstream appeal ~ people _love_ feeling as though they're in on a cool-little-secret :)
As a gay person, I couldn't care LESS about "creating an interesting gay culture". I'm a full supporter of the fight for gay marriage. I don't care if some gay people see this as 'normalizing' or whatever ~ the important thing is that there are gay couples who WANT to be married.
no one paid atention to what Truman Capote said? it was pure genious, he's right.
StarTazer 2 months ago
I completely agree with her
MrMuhamar 2 months ago
Normalizing is the whole point of the gay rights movement. Hell, we still have large numbers of people that hate black people for no substantive reason. It's going to take decades for gay people to be fully accepted as a normal part of society. It seems that people in general have this yearning to hate what is different or condemn and restrict those things that they don't like. Those who complain the loudest against gay rights are those who would kill to maintain their own rights.
TheTubePortal 3 months ago
Well, I've always said, "The only thing sillier than fighting FOR gay marriage is fighting AGAINST it."
rbrtptrck 4 months ago 4
I'm not sure what I'm seeing here. Is it a man, a woman, a human or a puppet? Very very weird.
Samuraionthewall 4 months ago
@Samuraionthewall What you're seeing is not important. You should listen instead.
chasedbyfaun 2 months ago
I love when people say the best thing about being gay is not having to get married. No one has to get married you moron. How is that a plus for gays?
Btw, did abolition and the civil rights act destroy "black culture?" Even if they did, would anyone use that as an argument against abolition or civil rights?
joshgodawful 4 months ago
@joshgodawful : I'm going to say this one more time and I'm going to say it on behalf of all black people as a black women. Use your own fucking arguments and not ours. Do not use black people as your poster child to bring across your arguments. Most gay white folks have been benefactors (as most whites) of privileges most black people can only dream of at one time in history or even today and at our expense. Your "plight" comes from a behavioral perspective, not ethnic or racial.
twilson11208 2 days ago
I think she was just trying to be funny -- that's a funny thing to say about the two things gay people want. I think she's obviously for gay marriage and gays in the military.
MrHoldenM 4 months ago
@MrHoldenM She's not joking. You'd know this if you were familiar with her work.
sheLovesG 4 months ago
@sheLovesG Ok, so you're basically saying that she doesn't understand why gays want those rights and she's not for them either?
MrHoldenM 4 months ago
@MrHoldenM The 1st part yes, the 2nd, no.
sheLovesG 4 months ago
@sheLovesG I think she's smart enough to truly understand why gays wants these rights, and she's just taking that position to make a funny point. In any case. But maybe you're right, who knows.
MrHoldenM 4 months ago
I agree with her 100%.
sheLovesG 5 months ago
I'm gay, and see her points and agree,somewhat.That said, there is always the other side of the coin of repression causing people to live lives as outcasts and in misery.So Fran, if that's how you want to live your life so you can feel "special", go for it I've been in that place and now much prefer this new world where your sexuality is insignificant when connecting and relating to others.I think the maturation process involves realizing and understanding we're not all that different, after all
tet43 5 months ago
What I think she fails to realize is that homosexuals are fighting for marriage because we are tired of not recieving the same benefits of a relationship that heterosexuals do. If my partner were dying in the hospital, but I wouldn't be allowed to see him, I would be livid. And there are gay people that are patriotic and want to serve their country.
TomsFriendKake 5 months ago
@TomsFriendKake I think part of her point, no explicit here but that she mentions in some of her other interviews, is that marriage and the military are NOT creating an interesting Gay culture; in fact, in a sense it's destroying the art, reflection and rebellion that makes Gay culture what - hate to say this - what it once WAS.
IzzyIsou 5 months ago 7
@IzzyIsou that sounds awfully similar to what fans of 'obscure' artists say when their beloved artist gains more mainstream appeal ~ people _love_ feeling as though they're in on a cool-little-secret :)
As a gay person, I couldn't care LESS about "creating an interesting gay culture". I'm a full supporter of the fight for gay marriage. I don't care if some gay people see this as 'normalizing' or whatever ~ the important thing is that there are gay couples who WANT to be married.
AxeGrrrl 4 months ago
@TomsFriendKake she said she'd vote for it if it were on the ballot. we can assume she did which is why new york now has gay marriage.
fiveminutebreak 5 months ago