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  • Now if they could just pay for the plane, the fuel, the pilot without borrowing money......

  • @kgtrains all countries borrow money to recycle their debt. All countries have debt. Greece is a representative example of this case.

  • @kgtrains who said money from loans and bailout goes for the military????bailout money and loans go to pay previous loans and taxed interest...google economic killers,debtocracy...its capitalism you stupid they make money that way,and the borrowed money never went in pockets of simple people(citizens)...

  • this f-4 flies 10 ft over the sea.That's something very difficult to be achieved.Believe me...it is almost impossible to see a phantom so low... PHANTOM is not like other planes...it is by far the most difficult in handling... and it is a proof of the skills of greek pilots...με απλα λογια, το εργαλειο δεν στρωνεται ευκολα στα 10 ποδια...αν μη τι αλλο θελει αρ___δια

  • @anassot  Exactly .... requires BALLS !!!

  • that's the way its done

  • Do the armed services pay income tax?

  • @thegreatgumburto Of course they do.They also can't tax evade,since their are paid by the state.

  • Hellenic Air-force does it yet again. They won all the combat exercise in the latest NATO military exercises held in Spain in April, 2011. This is on top of the other big win which was RED FLAG 2008 in the United States, where they destroyed US Air-force in a kill ratio of 18:3. The so called best air-force (US) and its top-guns, received lessons and their first loss ever and they never had it so bad. Furthermore the best NATO Pilot for the third time was Charalambos Eskioglou

  • @Woom88 The Hellenic Air Force is definitely one of the best Air Forces in the world, if not the best. Unfortunately, that's all for naught because air traffic controllers and other essential personnel are on strike half the time.

  • @Woom88 I'm a Greek-American so I don't really lose either way lol

  • HELLAS RULES..!!!!!!!

  • i didnt know potatoes could record video now

  • the USA has the best pilots in the world...that has been proven in actual combat and is undisputed.

    thread closed.

  • thats when a shark breaches the surface

  • @CombatSambo83 no that was Persian Empire..ancestors of Turks..

  • @mpampa100 How are the persians ancestors of Turks?? Read a couple of lines before you spread your bullshit

  • seriously, do you have any idea how many billions german tax payers sent to greece?

  • @Goidma seriously do you believe that even some of those money went to Greek tax payers?

    those people that rule you and me get all the money and they blame us for that.

    did you get any money from the billions of the fraud with Siemens, or the one with the submarines?

  • @Goidma Do you know how many billions you made by exporting your products in Greece for the last decade? Do you know how fucked your economy will be if the south “embargo” your products?

  • @Goidma absolutely nothing

    you earn money from greek crisis like mafia

  • Cruise Missile simulation? That's a hit... Nice.

    

  • 0:07 is perfect

  • he was flying this mission on out (german) money!

    

  • @Goidma

    Give us back what you lot looted in WW2 and shut up....

  • @FanatikosKafetzis I agree with your feelings about Germany. Those years are still within living memory. The WW2 generation is almost gone yes, but not yet.

    I hear some German politicians today talking shit about Greece as if World War II never happened.....

    They seem to have short memory.

  • @Ca1861 or no memory

  • auto t video ine apantisi stin erotisi :pios ine o koureas tou chuck norrise ;

  • Greek isnt the best air force in the world, Just because one guy can fly 10ft off the ground, doesnt mean the rest of them can.

    Same with any other air force.

  • @Mattc23q not the best airforce,but it has the best pilots in the world.read ur books first,then make ur statement.

  • @zmuggler You sir are an idiot, there training scheme doesn't have the same result for all pilots, 1 pilot may be an ace, and another might be a shitcunt.

  • @Mattc23q it's not training the reason greek pilots are the best u ignorant fool,it's because of the constant and daily violations of the greek airspace by turkish fighters,which result in dogfights,and that's why they have the biggest experience in the world,even exceeding those of USAF,and proven by the red flag excersise in which the HAF outcame the USAF with a staggering 15 - 3 win.i'm an officer in the army,i think i know my stories better than yours.

  • @zmuggler No, Israel would have more combat experience, Constant Invasions of Israeli airspace by Iranian F-14's and F-5's + experience given in the 2007 Lebenese-Israeli conflict would make them more experienced.

  • @Mattc23q i'm not going to continue arguing here who has the bigger dick.Constant but not daily.every day at least 10-15 turkish planes enter greek aerospace.and that's F16 s not obsolete cold war fighters.and that's a nato airforce were talkin about,not turban-wearing arab inexperienced pilots.

  • @zmuggler 10-15 Turkish plane's enter greek airspace each day? So your saying 10-15 plane's are shot down each day,

    Looking around on the greek-turkish air force pages, nothing about airspace violations and dogfights.

    you sir are stupid.

  • @Mattc23q no i'm not saying they get shot down,that's moronic even to think about,so that confirms even more my theory of u.intercepting and dogfighting doesn't mean firing and shooting.it's even more idiotic to search an airforce page and expect to read news about FIR violation.stop playing smart,cause obviously ur not.these reports come directly from the general staff of national defence press releases and are heard on the news every day.Im in the army,i think i know my job better than u moron

  • @zmuggler "t's because of the constant and daily violations of the greek airspace by turkish fighters,which result in dogfights"

    Quoted from what you previously said

    Military Definition of Dogfight "close quarters combat between fighter aircraft"

    and have you ever thought that I may be in the Military Aswell?.

    Stupid Child.

  • @Mattc23q it's obvous that u r not,if u were u would know what i'm talking about you dumbass.i'm going to end this here,since you clearly are completely ignorant about the matter,but i'm going to give u a chance to learn something.type ''Aegean Dispute'' in wikipedia and go to the ''Turkish Military Overflights'' section of the article.i hope after that your below zero IQ will gain a point or 2.cheers.

  • @Mattc23q well done,you have a dictionary in your pc.youre obviously not in the military,if you were you would know what im talking about.since you are retarded,and cannot find in todays internet the subject in matter,let me give u my lights.type ''aegean dispute'' in wikipedia,and read the ''turkish military overflights'' section of the article.

    Totally impaired.

  • @zmuggler Okay, so your saying there's dogfights but no-one get's shot down, so basically the greek's and turks are just flying around trying to look cool?

    getting no training at all, so were's the experience? how does this make them the best in the world?

    your probally just some cyber warrior trying to act hard.

  • @Mattc23q o my god you are such a big an idiot it gives me headache.YOUR ONLY KNOWLEDGE IS HOW TO TROLL.SHUT THE FUCK UP.SO TRAINING FOR YOU IS KILLING????THINK A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU ANSWER.but maby even that is too hard for you.

  • @zmuggler YOUR TRYING TO SAY, THAT THEY GET INTO DOGFIGHTS - WHICH IS WHY THEY GET EXPERIENCE, BUT THERE IS NO ACTUAL DOGFIGHTS, JUST A MEAR GAME OF RADAR FRIENDS.

    SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

  • @Mattc23q THEY GET INTO DOGFIGHTS YOU DUMB FUCK,DOGFIGHTING DOESN'T NECESSARILLY MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO SHOOT YOUR OPPONENT DOWN,YOU JUST HAVE TO LOCK HIM ON YOUR MISSILE TARGETING SYSTEM.THAT'S COMMON INTERCEPTION POLICY YOU STUPID UNIMFORMED PRICK,ASK ANY PILOT YOU WANT.

    ANY WAY GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU HAVE F'D UP THE VIDEO WITH YOUR STUPIDITY.

  • @zmuggler AHAHAHAHAH SO? THEY MANAGE TO LOCK ONTO A JET WITH RADAR, MOST COUNTRIES DO THAT AS TRAINING - THE US USES SU-39'S TO TRAIN THERE F-18'S.

    YOU ARE A FUCKING FAG IF YOU CAN THINK GREECE, THE COUNTRY THAT IS ALMOST ABOUT TO BE BANKRUPT, HAS THE BEST AIR FORCE EVER.

  • @Mattc23q YOUR DAD IS A FAG,AND CHECK THE RED FLAG EXCERSISE YOU DIPSHIT WE KICKED THE HELL OUT OF USAF WITH 15-3...SU39??? IM TALKING REAL LIFE INTERCEPTIONS WITH F16S AND MIRAGE 2000-5 NOT THESE COLD WAR JUNK...YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON ALIVE,AND YOUR CONTRADICTIONS SEEM LIKE THOSE OF A 5 YEAR OLD.AND I SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE BEST AIRFORCE BUT CERTAINLY THE BEST PILOTS IN THE WORLD,AND THAT'S A FACT ACCEPTED BY MANY WHO KNOW WHAT THEYRE TALKING ABOUT UNLIKE YOU

  • @zmuggler SO? YOU MAY HAVE VSED US, DID EVERY SINGLE US PILOT FLY IN RED FLAG? NO DID EVERY SINGLE GREEK PILOT FLY IN RED FLAG? NO.

    DID EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY FLY IN RED FLAG? NO.

    SO HOW DO YOU KNOW, THAT RUSSIA, UKRAINE, CHINA ISN'T BETTER?! HUH

    ALSO SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THESE FUCKING GREEKS WON RED FLAG, ALL IM SEEING IS INDIA WINNING AND AMERICA WINNING

  • @Mattc23q fuck off you cunt,if you can't use google then go back to your mama.fuckin american bitch.

  • @zmuggler 1. I Did use google, it said the United Kingdom had the best performance during red flag 08 and red flag 09.

    2. Why would i go back to my mother? I am well to live on my own.

    3. Im australian, Not american.

  • @Mattc23q You are all on drugs, one thing the Greek pilots are not on!

  • @Mattc23q Hellenic Airforce comes out of the wood work look out. Russian pilots take their hats off to the Greek pilots and American US pilots are outright humbled. The British, French and Germans have also taken humble lessons when the Hellenic Airforce recently kicked ass in NATO exercises held in Spain this year 2011. Sounds like your hurting badly son! Muhahahahaha!

  • @Mattc23q US is almost bankrupt... so!??? WAKE UP the subject is who has the best skilled and with more guts pilots... and this video is a proof!!! JUST OPEN YOUR EYES, SEE AND SHUT UP!!!

  • @dstr76 oh, going 20ft over the sea makes him the best pilot?

    /watch?v=d93WqklSzBI

    /watch?v=ljofhhdDGPo

  • @Mattc23q you have no idea everybody is beginning to understand that you are totally fucking stupid. Every man and his dog knows that the Greek pilots are the top guns of the skies you fucking moron!

  • @aek1928 lol, your just being patriotic - as most new fags do, mr aek1928, or i should say

    "Ελληνοεθνικιστής - Hellenic Nationalist"

  • @Mattc23q Deal with the burning facts and then go suck a cock, cock sucker. hahahahahaha! Nationalist are the Greek pilots who fly the jets. Its what is needed to be top! You fucking moron!

    I'm not wasting any more of my time with dick heads!

  • @Mattc23q your hurting real bad!

  • they were both the SAME aircraft. He just turned around the world

  • well it's easy over a flat sea ... try whit wakes ....

  • @giovmari yeah,right,if it's easy then you do it,you moron

  • @giovmari you are wrong my friend it's easier with waves and harder in flat sea if you are a pilot you know the reason. If you don't stop talking

  • you are wrong my friend it's easier with waves and harder in flat sea if you are a pilot you know the reason. If you don't stop talking

  • aooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh my gooooooooooooooooooood

    

  • oti kai na lene ta americanakia einai piso mas,min ksexnate oti to en logo aeroplano to eixan sto vietnam,ti thelw na pw?oti ta palikaria mas kanou afta pou ligi kanoun me arxea opla,fantastite na eixame tis polemiki texnologia tis americis ti tha ekanan oi aetoi mas.kai kati allo,oi ellines den exoun oute tin elaxisti empiria polemou me tetia opla,oi amerikanoi piloti exoun esto mia kataripsi sto energitiko tou kata 70% twn piloton.simperasmata vgalte moni sas.

  • greece has an air force?

  • @MrAlexHuff I did not know this either. Greece has been meaningless since after the death of Alexander the Great.

  • @ARepublicanVictory just for your information, greece has 40 less fighters than germany.

    we spend a lot of billions in the last 40 years buying american and french fighters

  • ahhaha ellinas.. ti perimenate :D

  • OMG you got to be kidding me.

  • SICK!

  • well at the competition of the best pilot in the world greece came first am proud of this sorry for mistakes

  • THIS IS KAVLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

  • That's insane!

  • FUCK YES THAT FUCKER HAS BALLS

    

  • @CombatSambo83

    So...is your name Dimitri?????? Strange for a dutch bitch that... XD

  • Really great sound. I love F-4 Phantom !!!

  • THATS LOW!!!

  • wraio alla kai malakioula sugxronos an ginotane kommatia? pane kamposa ekatomyria eyrw kai enas nekros pilotos...

  • @BayouBluesMan Οποιος φοβάται πέφτει και κοιμάται...Με τέτοια μυαλά δέν κερδίζονται πόλεμοι και μάχες.Με τετοια μυαλά δέν αγαπάς ποτέ αυτό που κάνεις..

  • @Christos75GR κατεβα λιγο κατω απο το αρμα της μαλακιας και σκεψου οτι

    1.δεν ειναι μαχη αλλα ασκηση και δεν χρειαζεται να ρισκαρει , γιατι τοσο χαμηλα ΡΙΣΚΑΡΕΙΣ

    2.οποιος δεν φοβαται ειναι η τρελος η μαλακας

    3. μπορεις να αγαπας αυτο που κανεις και να συνεχιζεις να αναπνεεις

  • @Christos75GR επισης δεν ειναι το ραλλακι σου να το κοντραρεις στη παραλιακη αλλα ενα πανακριβο αεροσκαφος που μαλακες ελληνες θα ξεπληρωνουν για πολυ καιρο , βασικα ο τσογλανος σηκωνει μια καλη ποινη

    αναρωτιεμαι αν υπηρξε κανας σμηραρχος με αρχηδια να του τη ριξει

  • @BayouBluesMan Από τη μια μεριά συμφωνώ. Επειδή παρακολουθώ όμως και λίγο τι γίνεται γνωρίζω πως οι έλληνες πιλότοι έχουν αποδείξει πως είναι σοβαροί, ψύχραιμοι και τέλειοι επαγγελματίες.

    Από την άλλη όμως σκέψου, εμείς σητν δουλειά μας δεν κάνουμε με το όποιο μέσο έχουμε μια μέρα στη ζωή μας μια υπέρβαση για πλάκα?

    Εξάλου επειδή έχω δει Α7 να περνάει μισό μέτρο χαμηλά σε χαράδρα πάνω από όλο το τάγμα (ξάπλα εμείς) γνωρίζω πως κανένα ραντάρ στο κόσμο δεν θα τον έπιανε εκεί.

    Τα λέμε!

  • @BayouBluesMan εισαι πολυ μαλακας

  • @e30gr προσπαθω

  • @BayouBluesMan i askisi legetai "ierakas3" oi amerikanoi pernane tetoia mono osoi pane topgun... oi ellines pilotoi tin pernane 1 fora to xrono.... .. afto pou to ekane afto plironete na to kanei ... kai mpravo tou pou DEN einai kopriths opos kapoioi politikoi pistevoun

  • @radanoba askhsh toso xamhla apagoreuetai. to orio einai mexri 300 podia. gi auto kai logw tou sygkekrimenou video vrhkan k gam... ton piloto pou petouse toso xamhla(plhroforiaka)

  • @nastos19 kala tou ekanan. Giati se merikous pernoun ta muala aera paravenoun tous orous kai riskaroun polu xoris logo. Exoun skotothei polloi etsi. Opote kalutera na ton epipliksoun ligo!

  • @arxidamos13 ti xwris logo re magites ?i xamili ptisi einai apo tis noumero ena manouvres stin haf- keat logo non observation apo ta exthrika radar ti malakies xempournate re asxetoi???????????????????????­???????

  • @cucaratsa76 ...sumfono pos einai mesa stin ekpaidefsi i xamili ptisi alla to orio einai 300 podia... kai nomizo pos oloi vlepoume pos dn einai 300 podia afto pou petaei o pilotos. O pateras mou einai pilotos tis polemikis aeroporias, ekeinos mou to eipe.

  • @arxidamos13 300 podia einai 92 metra peripou ara ayto pou les den isxyei kai sygekrimena oi phantomades einai makran oi kalyteroi pilotoi giati to f-4e kai to rf-4 den exoun tous aytomatismous tou block 52 oute to fly by wire tou mirage 2000 kai sti koinh logiki den exei kanenas ta arxidia na tin pei estw kai epiplixi se ena phantoma kai mono o pilotos xerei ta oria tou aeroplanou tou kanenas allos kai poly perissotero kanenas xartogiakas koustoumatos dioikitikos....

  • @cucaratsa76 den eipe kaneis oti dn exoun ikanotita oi anthropoi! isa isa pou einai oi kaluteroi ston kosmo. eipa oti paravenoun kapoia oria ta opoia exoun thespistei gia tin asfaleia tou pilotou. exoun SKOTOTHEI polloi aeroporoi apo tetoies paravaseis!

  • @arxidamos13 de diafwnw alla otan exeis othisi 9000 i 17000 to phantom librwn sta xeria sou esy min kaneis parabasi.....

  • @arxidamos13 pantws logo idiotitas tou patera sou dikaiologw apolyta tin anisixia sou

  • @Christos75GR Επιδη απο ότι δαίνεται απο τα γραφόμενα σου ,η συζήτηση δέν έχει πρόσφορο έδαφος,απαντώ το εξής και κλείνω.Οποιος φοβάται πέφτει και κοιμάται.Άν είχες την παραμικρή ιδέα για το τί μιλάς δέν θα έγραφες όπως γράφεις.Καλό σου απόγευμα.

  • Gotta be named by the same guy that made the video "F-4 Phantom 5 FEET LOW!!!"

  • Bucket list #35: Scare the shit out of the sea, CHECK.

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  • Respect.....!

  • Going that close to the ocean isn't skill, it's luck.

  • @xeonfuze luck???I am lucky,could I do it??

  • @Billswiftgti By luck, I mean luck on top of the necessary skills required to operate an aircraft to a satisfactory level, and not luck on it's own.

  • @xeonfuze It's not luck cause it's no ocean.It's Mediterranean Sea and it's very calm when it's not windy.Don't have big waves so it's easier here than in pacific ocean.That's my opinion

  • @Billswiftgti it is not the waves but the wind streams over the sea that makes it dangerous.

    it is easier when you fly by over an airfield

  • @vasilakisn agreed

  • I don't care what the pilot is, he's damn good to fly that low. Hat's off to Greece for this one!!

  • Hellenic Air Force pilots....just the best :)))

  • im american from what i read that the greek airforce is the best in world..they give american pilots a run for their money..that driver was nuts his wing was just about ready to hit that water :) you guys are nuts

  • @RJF1966 no man, they aren't nuts. they simply swim their fighters sub sea. it's happened in aegean sea before.

  • @RJF1966 There is no other way to survive in such a hostile neighborhood. You have to be crazy

  • @RJF1966 HAHAHAHAHA who told you that joke?

  • @RJF1966 "Giving someone a run for their money." Doesn't make you the best, in fact, if they "Give Americans a run for their money." in one aspect of aviation, they're far from the best.

  • @TumisHumis one of the most recent redflag contests with NATO..they won the whole thing the americans lost 15-3...i never once said america plays second fiddle but it is what it is..they have a very good airforce

  • @RJF1966 It's like the world baseball classic. We send 20 kids fresh out of college, and try hards send seasoned vets.

  • @TumisHumis a win is a win in my book the same is for seding our 20 year olds vs their seasons vets .

  • @RJF1966 If your definition of the best Air Force in the world is one that flies 50 year old fighter jets and owns less than 10% of the number of aircraft as the USAF, then yeah I guess they're the best.

    Ballsy and skilled/lucky pilot though!

  • @nnj3k they do very well in Red Flag usually finishing near the top or the top ..thats impressive..im not talking about old planes

  • @RJF1966 Youtube is full of assholes and I'm one of them :P. I can only read your post as the words are written. The post I responded to says "the greek airforce is the best in world," which is the claim I was attacking. If they do well in the Red Flag, that means they do well in Red Flag, and the pilot in this video does have balls of steel, but that does not qualify the Greek Air Force as best in the world, and I'm sure you would agree. I'm just taking your words literally. Cheers! :D

  • @nnj3k well anyone who flys a fighter is good to begin with..no debat there..but to push past what normal people would do and live that raises the bar. Yea i said it. but that can be debated..im not greek im american..i dont give a fuck what these online retards say ( america sucks bullshit) america is number 1 in terms of firepower and experiance..you took me out of context as for being a asshole..nope i am read my posts on other sights i eat trolls for lunch.

  • @nnj3k Best is always a contentious word. I remember an exercise when 4 RAF F4 Phantoms 'beat' 4 USAF F16s, on that day, the RAF were best, but of course, the USAF have many more aircraft, and if it had been part of a war, the USAF would have overwhelmed the RAF. I was always impressed by the Dutch, they used to do things with F27s that made my hair curl, and their F104 guys were possibly the best in Europe.

  • @RJF1966 Yeah, we like to show off xD

  • @RJF1966 seeing how the americans provided the training for them......your statement isn't entirely accurate.

  • @beergut111 just a statment on what i saw here is all

  • Greek airforce F4 Phantom ...... ΑΝ ΠΑΗ ΠΙΟ ΧΑΜΗΛΑ ΘΑ ΤΟ ΛΕΜΕ ΥΠΟΒΡΥΧΙΟ......ΑΛΛΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΕΡΟΠΛΑΝΟ ΓΙΑ ΟΣΟΥΣ ΔΕΝ ΞΕΡΟΥΝ.

  • @TheNikosgr

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • thats awesome!

    

  • gees DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THE CRASH AFTER THE FIRST PHANTON TURNED LEFT???????

  • @Onthebay3636 thats just the sound of the jet being late cause the jet is so fast

  • Well i wrote a big load of stuff about who has the best airforce and all the rest of that sort of bollocks..........but does it even matter.....NO

    AND

    If greece is so bloomin wonderful.....why do you not live there.

  • Only Greek pilots are super proud that they're still flying 60 year old hand me down aircraft...lol

  • That's illegal in the Greek Air Force. In any air force. If you fly below 50 feet you will be grounded and kicked out of the Air Force.

  • @intellegence63smart no.. this is how Greek airforce trains our pilots... and thats why Greek pilots are the best... ;) only Greek pilots can do that!!

  • @prosost LOL you must be kidding me, do you want to risk an F4 phantom to train pilots? YOU USE TRAINERS for that.

  • @intellegence63smart who told you that these people are following the rules? they face everyday every single day turkish fighters that are violating our sky without giving info for their flight path or asking permission to fry inside the borders of greece. many many things are illegal but trust me on this... none greek pilot is going to be kicked out for flying below 50 feet. they dont do it for show of, they show the spirit of i dont give a shit if i die protecting my land.

  • Grounded!

  • LOL the other pilots like "that guys fucking crazy... im staying up here :3"

  • push us more with all your strength,you are just making us stronger.... the spirit of our ancestors lives within us waiting to wake up......"a greek that wants greeks to get greek again"

  • @bi8koto

    Whats not great about Greece today? Financial crisis or not it is still a beautiful great country with an amazing culture and lovely people :)

  • @bi8koto lmao

  • what if he hits a boeat lol

  • my pants got wet....  :|

  • Τιμή και δόξα στους 'Ελληνες Ίκαρους

  • This seems like part of the exercise for validating the new Stir of the Kortenaer class Frigate. Rumor has it that this plane was flighing like this for at least 30 clicks.

  • In the Weeds!!! Touch the water with a wingtip at that speed and its game over!

  • here's a lil tidbit for do you really think the U.S. Air Force is going to give away it's secrets in a friendly war game nope don't think so if greece won it'sbecause we let then win. the us doesn't train full throttle with it's allies can't be given guys all the tricks of the trade

  • Greece has an Air Force??????

  • @001Maverick001 do you even know were greece is?

  • @001Maverick001 No, we don't have an air force, we only smash plates and eat souvlaki. LOL I always knew that fat mexican interbreds like you are stupid and ignorant but this is just way too much stupidity accumulated in one question.

  • @almostnormal22 See, I would believe that comment, but...you guys are still using F4s....we got rid of those like 30 years ago dude.

  • @001Maverick001 The USAF stopped using the F4's in 1996, not 30 years ago. The ones used by the German, Japanese, Turkish, Hellenic and more Air Forces today, carry new, fully upgraded armament and electronics, and can still pack a punch. The Hellenic Air Force is primarily consisted of fully upgraded types of F-16 Fighting Falcons though.

  • @almostnormal22 They're still using F4s. Even if they are "upgraded". An upgraded F4 couldn't top an original F14

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  • @001Maverick001 So you say a 1970-F14 would top a recently upgraded F4? I don't think so. For a military aircraft, having its electronics & armament upgraded constantly, is a very important procedure. But even the original performance characteristics of both planes are quite similar. Anyway, there's no point in trying to prove that USAF is the world's best AF, as it's well known. Instead (since this is a HAF video) u could just give sum props 2 dis pilot from hell, 4 flying de old stuff that way

  • @almostnormal22 Nah, I'm not the "give props" type of guy. And congrats on your plane knowledge, I'm VERY impressed!

  • @001Maverick001 uh thanks, i've always been interested in planes since most of my family members are.. pilots (flying military and commercial aircrafts)

  • @almostnormal22 I agree with most of that. however, the US has been buying harrier jets from the UK for a long time. I'm not saying someone is better than the other, just that the RAF has been around for a darn long time, and the US has been buying our planes, as opposed to vice versa. but yes! upgrades, good! and, obviously, US jets are nice too! :D

    We have Milden hall airshow over here in the UK - a US airbase in the UK. They bring tons of burgers on the B52's for BBQs. Tasty!

  • Just "plane" nuts!

  • who needs stelth hahahahhahahahhahahahahha

  • its pretty sad tht they r still using f4s

  • @trainfreak7745 Somewhat, yes, as long as you realize that these F-4s have the BVR capabilities of an F-16 with their new avionics. Besides, all that really matters is what the "other guy" is using, and the other guy in this case still has radar-less F-5s in his possession.

  • imagen the turks to see that coming from noware!!!! hahahaha they will jumb off theyr ship!!!!! hahahahahaa