@4everDukeNukem Well, Gief does have more bad matches than anybody else, Snake Eyes just overcame those challenges and crushed anyway. Give the player some credit and stop reading tier lists all day, nub!
Tiers are about results from that character in tournaments too, so Zangief will probably get a great boost in the ranking, and SnakeEyes is godly but zangief is still hard to main, besides, the eventhubs tier list sucks, see tiers from other games like Smash bros. in smash boards, they select only the well-known players and tournament winners to make the tiers lists and the lists are incredibly precise.
Zangief is bottom tier, some ppl misunderstand what Tiers are, when a character is bottom tier it just means he has alot of hard matches, doesnt mean he cant win. I guess thats why ppl say tiers dont matter, its not there to tell you who to play or who WILL beat who, just shows character info in chart form.
the announcers suck, i miss the old ones. these guys are boring, the the ssfiv guys sound like douchebags. i want the 2006 announcers. i cant even watch this because of the shitty announcers wtf....
Let this be a lesson to all you jackasses that tiers don't mean shit AND if a character doesn't have a fireball move that doesn't mean that they suck.
@4everDukeNukem ppl commonly misunderstand what tier lists represent. it's made from a current understanding of the metagame. this metagame is constantly changing and people learn new things about characters and matchups. it is not the be-all-end-all of who will beat who.
@ofarone It's something like that. Ryu has fireballs, but Zangief can lariat through those and punish from pretty far away. Also, once Zangief gets in, the only way for Ryu to stand a chance is if he gets a really lucky shoryuken.
@4everDukeNukem I could've sworn hearing that HD remix actually had a new Tier listing now that Zangief was given so many new enhancements. Nonetheless, It is a huge credit to David Sirlin for improving on perfection and having such a balanced and wonderful game now. Whenever I get pissed off at SSF4's dumb lag, I just pop this sucker on and it's GGPO makes all my troubles just fade away......
@KellysterOverdrive I don't know about that though, even in regular Super Turbo every single enhancement that was given to Zangief was to combat shoto's (hence, he had nothing to combat everyone else and left him last tier). Of course I'm not calling it an easy match but I don't think Snake eyes did anything in HD remix that wasn't available in regular.
@shindean yes good observation there. almost forgot zangief is an anti shoto.
but the mere fact that the experts say zangief is a low tier character and you said he had nothing else to combat others. but he proves it wrong here by reaching the grand finals of evo.
@KellysterOverdrive sorry, I was referring to Super Turbo 'gief and in context to a Ryu match. I definitely agree that 'gief was given tons of enhancements to fight everyone off in HD remix (high chop against vega and akuma, declined recovery time from banishing flat). But at least for his match in the finals against ryu, I didn't really see anything exceptional that was not available to him in regualr super turbo.
I have HD remix on both 360 and PS3 learning Gief anyone want to spar I don't play in rank mode only in online matches with friends I learned a few things watching Snake eyes
In my opinion, i think DGV is a great Ryu player, fancy, and very fun to watch but at the same time, i don't think he's a very smart player either. By saying that is because, if you watch all his matches when using Ryu, you would notice how he uses his SUPER, very random and not well executed, more like chipping his opponents lifebar... I used to play him on XBL and i see this allllll the time. However i do like his Dee Jay ;)
DGV burns SUPER all day mainly to use the spacing it creates to begin his shenanigans all over as well as utilize the chip dmg. Also, DGV is a meter master. He can build meter faster than 99.9% of Ryu's out there. So...throwing his super out at seemingly random points wouldn't register to him as wasting a super. His juice kick capability is ridiculous as well as the rest of his execution. the man can build half his meter up after scoring a knockdown!
Games were so hype, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Congratulations to both players making it to the finals, and both are active players in the HDR community.
@dwEEb813 this is wrong. You can reverse all of the tick throws and also the running bear grab. But if you mix it up and aren't predictable you can land these easily.
@evoanon i'm only going by my deejay experience and i've gotten reversal upkicks and it didn't get me out. My opinion is based on what damdai has said and personal experience. i play all the charge characters except balrog and gief rapes in the corner.
@dwEEb813 Technically Akuma is the best but hes banned as all fuck and for good reasons such as infinite zoning. Nah Zangief isnt the best obvious match ups show that this guys just a master of him and out played dgv.
@ManowarHeigou i know akuma is the best. i thought that was a given when i wrote my statement but if you are in the corner you are dead. This game has no auto correct lol
@TheGovernment Im not trying to support this guy. But your just proving his point by saying dumb shit like hating and cracker to him and making a racist joke back at him.
I invite you to button-mash in HDR... will be fun watching you fail. Anybody who has played Street Fighter before IV will tell you that IV is the most button-mashing SF game ever. I suppose you're suddenly a Street Fighter veteran just because you played SSIV, right? lulz. FOCUS ATTACK!
@BehindTheLight99: Just by you even saying that, I can tell you're a SFIV scrub who probably mains Ryu, in hope of playing like Daigo one day. And button masher? Who the fuck button mashes in HDR? JUST YOU! Everyone who still plays HDR is a skilled player, knows their spacing, and can whip DAT ASS. HDR 4 LYFE
@BehindTheLight99: Am I sure? You issue a challenge to me, then ask if I'm sure? Sounds like your not to confident in yourself now. You CAN'T back out now, you'll look like a total pussy in front of all the wonderful youtubers. BTW, the best there is? BehindTheLight? Never seen your tag on HDR, like I said... SFIV SCRUB! Prove yourself, 1st to 10. Recorded and put on Youtube.
@PLEEZENinja I'd still love to see Akuma in tournaments, I think David Sirlin gave him enough nerfs to make him tourney usable. Hell, every time I know an opponent is picking AKuma, I pick zangief and make them really sorry for trying to out tier me in a balanced game.
@PLEEZENinja Just because Snake Eyes dominated with Gief doesn't mean he's not a shit character, the player just overcome the challenges in using him and dominated anyway.
I would honestly think that tier list is just bad. HDR has easier motions for gief and hawk which should make that aspect of their game significantly better.
He was apparently bottom in st. I don't get it either.
SnakeEyes fought for Mother Russia.
wiithepeople2 3 weeks ago
HD Remix doesn't look shitty. It just plays shitty.
LiquidSoulfly 3 weeks ago
WHORE-YUKEN!
yes i prefer the original too, hd remix is kinda shitty.
mazdaplz 2 months ago
this game looks shitty I prefer the original non HD
memokk 6 months ago
So does this mean SF3:OE might be revived? Though, this game was changed in balanced. So technically it is totally different.
ThePhantomPS3boy 7 months ago
i cud beat this two dudes i play this game a long time but i never been in a championship before
dilan4me 8 months ago
holy crap dgv!!!
mynameistnb 8 months ago
Other than arcade sticks,Mad Catz makes shitty products!
boomboominroom 10 months ago
this was a damn good match.
MrTufflong 10 months ago
@4everDukeNukem Well, Gief does have more bad matches than anybody else, Snake Eyes just overcame those challenges and crushed anyway. Give the player some credit and stop reading tier lists all day, nub!
UltimateBeastMachine 11 months ago
@UltimateBeastMachine how is it that you could completely miss what someone said, and then contradict yourself in your own comment, wee-oww
TheJoyLoveMoney 10 months ago
@TheJoyLoveMoney Why did you just own yourself with a stupid comment such as that?
UltimateBeastMachine 10 months ago
@4everDukeNukem This doesn't mean Zangief is top tier at all, SnakeEyes just played extremely well.
DoorMattTV 11 months ago
DAMN SnakeEyes is fucking sick with Gief.
dacbiet 11 months ago
This game shows us that there are no bottom tier characters, there are only bottom tier players.
redpanda416 1 year ago
great moment in zangief history!
kunal5 1 year ago
@kunal5 yeah gief!
ozzyo602 11 months ago
Tiers are about results from that character in tournaments too, so Zangief will probably get a great boost in the ranking, and SnakeEyes is godly but zangief is still hard to main, besides, the eventhubs tier list sucks, see tiers from other games like Smash bros. in smash boards, they select only the well-known players and tournament winners to make the tiers lists and the lists are incredibly precise.
TeitiTT 1 year ago
Impossible is nothing!
lucemonfalldownmode 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem ha ha ha, so true. Screw tier lists and stick superiority, in beat em ups, ANYONE is dangerous if used right.
crookz16 1 year ago
@crookz16 A kitchen knife is dangerous. A nuclear bomb is dangerous. Are both equal?
qwasdninja 1 year ago
proof that tier lists are shit
Badguy260 1 year ago 2
I forgot HDR Gief has the simplified control scheme. Wow thats crazy in hindsight.
SDSOverfiend 1 year ago
@SDSOverfiend All good players had no problems with pulling off Zangiefs moves before the change.
qwasdninja 1 year ago
@qwasdninja True but. it shave nano secs off the buffer time...Also a miss input won't cause Gief to jump either.
SDSOverfiend 1 year ago
That Nigga Snake Eye is official. Played him for the first time to taday and i must admit. His Gief is official tissue. CHARMINS!!!
SDSOverfiend 1 year ago
nice use of the green hand lol
tastetherainbow32109 1 year ago
KUNI WOULD BE PROUD :)
damienjeffgomez 1 year ago
you cant throw a wrestler hahaha. lawl.
Itsallover57 1 year ago
Long live Padgief the champ.
*watches his eventhubs footage daily* *lawls*
Sh00peh 1 year ago
@TehUberCyberBeast Obvious troll is obvious.
inb4 No shit, Sherlock.
RockLeeBrSrK 1 year ago
seth is fucking annoying commentator, drives me nuts..... i had to mute sound to make it easier to withstand
chilonewolf 1 year ago
@chilonewolf What? S-Kill is one of the best commentators we have.
Segeta 1 year ago
@TehUberCyberBeast thank u uber i miss your gief in hf keep up the classic vids i love em you need to sub to me ill keep it dirty
dirty40oz 1 year ago
Zangief is bottom tier, some ppl misunderstand what Tiers are, when a character is bottom tier it just means he has alot of hard matches, doesnt mean he cant win. I guess thats why ppl say tiers dont matter, its not there to tell you who to play or who WILL beat who, just shows character info in chart form.
TriniPride643 1 year ago
I can't believe zangief was so rude dude cool match
viperbeam5 1 year ago
the announcers suck, i miss the old ones. these guys are boring, the the ssfiv guys sound like douchebags. i want the 2006 announcers. i cant even watch this because of the shitty announcers wtf....
FugeesTheScore 1 year ago
Actually i would say fei long is bottom tier,
#1 in A Tier: Vega
Best player in the game is of course, Akuma. but he's banned.
FugeesTheScore 1 year ago
Let this be a lesson to all you jackasses that tiers don't mean shit AND if a character doesn't have a fireball move that doesn't mean that they suck.
SSFIITHDRemix 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem ppl commonly misunderstand what tier lists represent. it's made from a current understanding of the metagame. this metagame is constantly changing and people learn new things about characters and matchups. it is not the be-all-end-all of who will beat who.
stokey88 1 year ago
WHO'S DAT SNAKE EYEZ NIGGA??!?!?!?!?!!?1
Kacom1 1 year ago
wheres the snake eyez vs daigo?
meatandwad 1 year ago
fuck madcatz, they make terrible controllers. I don't give a fuck what anyone says, you know the truth.
skiie 1 year ago
I think this is like a 5-5 matchup
ofarone 1 year ago
@ofarone It's something like that. Ryu has fireballs, but Zangief can lariat through those and punish from pretty far away. Also, once Zangief gets in, the only way for Ryu to stand a chance is if he gets a really lucky shoryuken.
SyaoLin213 1 year ago
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ofarone 1 year ago
extremly skilful playing from snakeyez
IrrepressibleGuile 1 year ago
Good match!
xroyaldevilx 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem I could've sworn hearing that HD remix actually had a new Tier listing now that Zangief was given so many new enhancements. Nonetheless, It is a huge credit to David Sirlin for improving on perfection and having such a balanced and wonderful game now. Whenever I get pissed off at SSF4's dumb lag, I just pop this sucker on and it's GGPO makes all my troubles just fade away......
shindean 1 year ago
OK, I admit it. I'm a tier whore, but when I see Zangief crush a skilled shoto; I pour out my whisky bottle.
ryugacooking 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem
yeah hi did well knowing the match up against a shoto is one hell of a one sided match
KellysterOverdrive 1 year ago
@KellysterOverdrive I don't know about that though, even in regular Super Turbo every single enhancement that was given to Zangief was to combat shoto's (hence, he had nothing to combat everyone else and left him last tier). Of course I'm not calling it an easy match but I don't think Snake eyes did anything in HD remix that wasn't available in regular.
shindean 1 year ago
@shindean yes good observation there. almost forgot zangief is an anti shoto.
but the mere fact that the experts say zangief is a low tier character and you said he had nothing else to combat others. but he proves it wrong here by reaching the grand finals of evo.
KellysterOverdrive 1 year ago
@KellysterOverdrive sorry, I was referring to Super Turbo 'gief and in context to a Ryu match. I definitely agree that 'gief was given tons of enhancements to fight everyone off in HD remix (high chop against vega and akuma, declined recovery time from banishing flat). But at least for his match in the finals against ryu, I didn't really see anything exceptional that was not available to him in regualr super turbo.
shindean 1 year ago
@shindean so snake eyes must be really really good =)
KellysterOverdrive 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem
they never play against him online then cuz i hate facing him
mrpresidentholla 1 year ago
jodim has a better gief?
delatroy 1 year ago
I have HD remix on both 360 and PS3 learning Gief anyone want to spar I don't play in rank mode only in online matches with friends I learned a few things watching Snake eyes
cuttyb87 1 year ago
Ma boy Snake Eyez going with the pad just like when we play online! good job snake!
Spectator24 1 year ago
who is that snake eyez niga? can he beat daigo ?????
Guccikebab 1 year ago
If I'm not mistaken, DGV beat Daigo to get to the finals, so that should say something...
TheTaiyakiGuy 1 year ago
In my opinion, i think DGV is a great Ryu player, fancy, and very fun to watch but at the same time, i don't think he's a very smart player either. By saying that is because, if you watch all his matches when using Ryu, you would notice how he uses his SUPER, very random and not well executed, more like chipping his opponents lifebar... I used to play him on XBL and i see this allllll the time. However i do like his Dee Jay ;)
conroexlexx 1 year ago
@conroexlexx
DGV burns SUPER all day mainly to use the spacing it creates to begin his shenanigans all over as well as utilize the chip dmg. Also, DGV is a meter master. He can build meter faster than 99.9% of Ryu's out there. So...throwing his super out at seemingly random points wouldn't register to him as wasting a super. His juice kick capability is ridiculous as well as the rest of his execution. the man can build half his meter up after scoring a knockdown!
moi60186 1 year ago 2
Zangief owns! Clutch play :D
cpthurme 1 year ago
Games were so hype, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Congratulations to both players making it to the finals, and both are active players in the HDR community.
Engravings 1 year ago
@4everDukeNukem the tier list is wrong. Damdai another top HDR player made a statement about Gief saying he's the best in the game.
He's the best because he has unescapable setups even if your opponent lands a reversal.
In the corner if he does knee drop 360+K you can't escape.
dwEEb813 1 year ago
@dwEEb813 this is wrong. You can reverse all of the tick throws and also the running bear grab. But if you mix it up and aren't predictable you can land these easily.
evoanon 1 year ago
@evoanon i'm only going by my deejay experience and i've gotten reversal upkicks and it didn't get me out. My opinion is based on what damdai has said and personal experience. i play all the charge characters except balrog and gief rapes in the corner.
dwEEb813 1 year ago
@dwEEb813 Technically Akuma is the best but hes banned as all fuck and for good reasons such as infinite zoning. Nah Zangief isnt the best obvious match ups show that this guys just a master of him and out played dgv.
ManowarHeigou 1 year ago
@ManowarHeigou i know akuma is the best. i thought that was a given when i wrote my statement but if you are in the corner you are dead. This game has no auto correct lol
dwEEb813 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
why dont these niggers learn to play the latest ssf4
depharmacist 1 year ago
@depharmacist
Shut your hating ass up. You must be a cracker because I really want some chili all of a sudden.
TheGovernment 1 year ago 2
@TheGovernment Im not trying to support this guy. But your just proving his point by saying dumb shit like hating and cracker to him and making a racist joke back at him.
ManowarHeigou 1 year ago
@depharmacist: Hahah, SSFIV is scrub tier. Learn to play a real fighting game.
Engravings 1 year ago
@Engravings hdr is a lame no skill button masher
BehindTheLight99 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99
I invite you to button-mash in HDR... will be fun watching you fail. Anybody who has played Street Fighter before IV will tell you that IV is the most button-mashing SF game ever. I suppose you're suddenly a Street Fighter veteran just because you played SSIV, right? lulz. FOCUS ATTACK!
NorieagaHDR 1 year ago
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Guccikebab 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99: Just by you even saying that, I can tell you're a SFIV scrub who probably mains Ryu, in hope of playing like Daigo one day. And button masher? Who the fuck button mashes in HDR? JUST YOU! Everyone who still plays HDR is a skilled player, knows their spacing, and can whip DAT ASS. HDR 4 LYFE
Engravings 1 year ago
@Engravings trust me, I would totally destroy you in HDR.
BehindTheLight99 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99: Really now? Do I hear a challenge? I'll gladly record a first to ten in HDR.
Engravings 1 year ago
@Engravings I'm one of the best there is, are you sure you want to do that?
BehindTheLight99 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99
Just the fact that you said HDR is nothing but a button masher proves you don't know what you're talking about.
Don't say you're the best there is unless you have a few tourny wins under your belt and you can actually back them up.
Delianswift 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99: Am I sure? You issue a challenge to me, then ask if I'm sure? Sounds like your not to confident in yourself now. You CAN'T back out now, you'll look like a total pussy in front of all the wonderful youtubers. BTW, the best there is? BehindTheLight? Never seen your tag on HDR, like I said... SFIV SCRUB! Prove yourself, 1st to 10. Recorded and put on Youtube.
Engravings 1 year ago
@Engravings Trust me, I'm the best. No one beats my Cammy. I know you don't really want to get destroyed.
BehindTheLight99 1 year ago
@BehindTheLight99: Alright, we'll see, I'll be sending an invite.
Engravings 1 year ago
@depharmacist I'll answer that for you. Because that game is garbage.
SSFIITHDRemix 1 year ago
eventhubs tier list is bs, gief is annoying in this game because any noob can do an spd with the easy ass motion
bring back ST at evo, hd remix is shit
hardgayramen4ever 1 year ago
How can we play gief on a pad ?
It's amazing
TheEvilDindon 1 year ago
And they said on Event Hubs that Zangief is bottom tier. HAHA
PLEEZENinja 1 year ago 25
@PLEEZENinja I'd still love to see Akuma in tournaments, I think David Sirlin gave him enough nerfs to make him tourney usable. Hell, every time I know an opponent is picking AKuma, I pick zangief and make them really sorry for trying to out tier me in a balanced game.
shindean 1 year ago
@PLEEZENinja its all about results not stats.. :D i guess not many people play as good as SEyes :)
joelui89 1 year ago
@PLEEZENinja He is, SnakeEyes is god like.
DoorMattTV 11 months ago
@PLEEZENinja Just because Snake Eyes dominated with Gief doesn't mean he's not a shit character, the player just overcome the challenges in using him and dominated anyway.
UltimateBeastMachine 11 months ago
@PLEEZENinja
I would honestly think that tier list is just bad. HDR has easier motions for gief and hawk which should make that aspect of their game significantly better.
He was apparently bottom in st. I don't get it either.
mynameistnb 8 months ago
thanks
pjmac88 1 year ago