Why People Oppose Gay Marriage: Part One

[ilovepdub]

dont matter what u believe in, but yes their is a god, and weather u believe or not its still something that belongs to christianity, marriage is a bond between woman and man in christ!! u think u have won, but in the end u all will see. i kno i cant tell fools the truth but ill tell it anyway u will all see

[SexyStarTrekGirl82]

I am a straight woman,with a boyfriend I've had for 12 years. I will never get married, and might not have kids. I would not expect someone else to live exactly how I live, because everybody is different, and that is what makes life beautiful. We all have to grow up and except that if we all thought the same, our evolvement as a society would grow stagnant, and we would not progress as humans.

[Jamieishere1]

2:04 what the hell is that lol :s? Great video anyway :).

[liveacoustic11]

Haha! "in fairness we will have refutations" Yes, you list the proofs (which I think you made up half of them) But then you immediately list your opinions and call these claims close minded. One could also say that of a one-sided youtube video. Also, as best I could find, George Washington never said the quote at 3:18, it was Joel Barlow in the Treaty of Tripoli!

[Blairtim69]

@liveacoustic11

G.W. did not write it, but it was read before the senate and was the third time a vote was ever unanimous, there is no record of debate or dissension over the language.

[clortizael]

Great Vid!

[kenballer00]

not only would this be impossible for same sex couples to do this exact same thing in practice accidently in certain situations but its always impossible no matter what the situation and therefore, allowing same sex couples to marry would not only infringe on the state's objectives but it would eliminate the entire reason the state recognizes and uses the term marriage which is to promote natural procreation and rearing of children to at least the vast majority who are capable of this

[kenballer00]

The state's purpose is not just procreation, but its to PROMOTE and MENTALLY encourage citizens to focus their natural feelings to procreate in a responsible, productive, and safer way within stable relationships using the culturally understood term "marriage" and rear them in the best place, which means allowing the infertile to marry doesn't infringe on these objectives because these examples don't change the definition or the fact that a man and a woman can achieve this

[kenballer00]

the state is not there to issue love licenses. the main purpose of civil marriage is to PROMOTE procreation into a monogamous environment where there is two biological married parents. the same reason we don't allow same sex marriage is the same reason we don't allow incest and polygamist marriages. this is why it is a privilege, hence the word "license", because the state does have a right to discriminate against those type of relationships( not individuals) for legitimate state interests

[9Equinox]

why do you think they are DIFFERENT? what's the essential part to any marriage? LOVE. marriage is not just about having sex and reproduction so you know. it's about two people sharing their lives with eachother. if you agree with this, then you should agree that there's no difference between hetero/homosexual mariages. if you're having difficulty understanding this proably you haven't experienced being in love with someone in your life yet.

[9Equinox]

what's the difference between the 'gayrriage' and 'marriage'? now you are thinking about the love making part, but is marriage just about two people living together for sex? or is it actually more.

[9Equinox]

@ CheckmGood:

[Topazeyesdazzleme]

marriage is actually defined as the union of two people. It is not the identity of the heterosexual cicvil unions. also if it wasnt called marriage then they lose the right to be married which is not gaining full irghts

[homeboy20012009]

@CheckmGood , The fags pollute anything.

When they get their chance.

[Topazeyesdazzleme]

@CheckmGood first off stop saying you homos! im not homosexual just so you know and if u dont have anything against htem why cant they be married

[Topazeyesdazzleme]

whats wrong with waning to have the same right everyone else has. Your right marriage is needed at all so why dont we just abolish it.

[homeboy20012009]

@Topazeyesdazzleme, Yes the fags are asking for to much rights.

They WHINE, WHINE, WHINE.

[homeboy20012009]

@Topazeyesdazzleme, What man would like to be pregant. Or have a baby.

None accept, the fags. Trying to prove a point.

[BasilTheBasilisk]

Probably you, you home depot trannie-wannabe shemale.

[ilikechiken72]

@homeboy20012009 you know what the good thing is? People like you will die soon because the way you talk shows you more than likely are an adult. More and more teens today are becoming more and more accepting of gays, and they don't care because they know it has nothing to do with them! Where I live, only a few people care, guys really dont care, adn girls are in love with gay people! The point I'm trying to say here is this: WE are the NEW generation and when WE get older it will be US that

[ilikechiken72]

@homeboy20012009 will change this country for the better! In case you haven't noticed, Obama got rid of the don't ask don't tell thing for the military, making it okay for gays to serve, gay marriage is now legle in a few states, so keep on with your hate people like you wont last long

[homeboy20012009]

@ilikechiken72

Gay men will soon die off from aids. Like they did In the 1980's but these fags refuse to listen. And they must pay the consequences because they refuse to listen. AND GOD will punish those who CONDONE there behavior. But go ahead continue to mess with fags.

But don't whine to us when you catch the aids virus or any other diease.

[homeboy20012009]

@ilikechiken72 It seems like you love to start shit with people. Don't start shit with people If you don't like what they say back to you. You chicken shit I can block your faggot ass to. People who chose to be gay will pay threw death.

[Blairtim69]

@homeboy20012009

People are born gay.

Most geneticists agree it is genetic.

Genetic markers on the male chromosome have a 99% probability they trigger more than one sexual orientation

twin studies have proven it

hormonal levels in pregnant woman have a strong influence on sexuality

The nation's doctors, psychologists, councilors, and psychiatrists associations all agree it is natural and normal

[ThomasINDs]

@Blairtim69 Genetic? I laugh Every time someone uses that in gay marriage argument. Some people wanting some reason to prove and explain why people are gay. Whether or not a man is gay is strictly influential via peers and society. Saying it is related to genetics is purely an excuse and the product of some person's incessant desire to try to explain it through science. In any case, what determines a man or woman to be gay or not is psychological.

[Blairtim69]

@ThomasINDs

There are a dozen studies showing it has a prenatal source. Most geneticists believe there is a genetic source

You cannot just laugh off a theory with huge support in the scientific community.

Not finding the genetic markers, does not mean they don’t exist. The mechanisms for sexuality include hetero.

Another bit of evidence is the fact homosexual traits exist in every species. It is illogical to assume homosapien is the only species without this trait.

[Blairtim69]

@homeboy20012009

I know of no gay men who want to be pregnant.

Where do you people get this garbage?

Doesn't the lack of any logic or common sense ever pop up when you write this crap?

[Topazeyesdazzleme]

@CheckmGood u oppose gay marriage but u arnt a homophobe? that makes no sense

[homeboy20012009]

@Topazeyesdazzleme , They think they are a (PROTECTED GROUP).

They ask for to much.

The, fags have taken over. And polluted San Francisco.

[Blairtim69]

@homeboy20012009

How can a group of people with no right to jobs, housing, and services without discrimination be considered protected?

How can a group not permitted to serve openly, or even given the dignity of notification when a loved one dies be considered protected?

How can a group at the top of the murder and assault list for immutable qualities be considered protected?

You have an odd sense of protected.

[parkgoer]

colon pal is one sick bastard " Colon Pal " Good Greif what a retarded screen name also. What, you stick things in mens colons? is that it? Demented Pervert. No One is Scared of You Homos You should call us Homo Disgusteds!

[ColonPal]

Yeah, that's right! uh hu, ...Yep!

You GUESSED IT! How did you figure that out? Did your mommy or daddy tell you?

By now you probably realize what an ASS I've made of you, but could you open your mouth again because I have a bet going with my gay friends that you'll be at our next 'Gay Agenda' meeting.

And believe me, this month's Gay Agenda meeting will make last month's look like a Christian bar-b-que because THIS month we'll be bar-b-quing Christians FOR REAL!

Hit me up for time & date!

[ColonPal]

Yeah, that's it -- SUBMIT TO ME NOW!

And don't let that shit run down your chin -- SLURP IT UP!

That's a good boy!

Now, if you're ready for more, it's gonna start getting a little rough, so REPLY to me if you are truly here to pick up on gay guys!

If you don't reply, I'm going to just think you're here because your curious and never got any man-to-man sex as a teenager.

Tell me something nasty again -- how about calling me faggot again -- I LOVE that dirty talk!

[ColonPal]

LOL! You've ALREADY submitted to me, why do you think I'm having so much fun making an ASS of you?

And PLEASE don't accuse me of being normal -- conformity is the worst kind of deformity. I'm more unique than you can ever even DREAM of being.

PS: Let me know when you come up with a logical reason gay marriage should be banned -- I'm still waiting and you STILL haven't come up with one.

Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath!

[ColonPal]

I don't think any married gay person would disagree their marriage is a little bit different than a straight marriage. They just aren't different enough to call it something other than marriage. Why don't you straight bigots call it 'Christian marriage' or something equally retarded? When you can see how ridiculous that would be, you can see why we won't accept 'civil union' because it's NOT a civil union, it's a MARRIAGE.

JUST as I predicted-you can't come up with a logical reason against GM.

[ColonPal]

LOL! Now I see your true HOMOPHOBIC nature is rearing it's ugly head. WHY do different types of civil unions have to have separate labels? They DO NOT. They never have, and never will. You can label what you want, but when 2 same sex couples are in a monogamous relationship they are STILL MARRIED and we will CONTINUE to call it marriage and it WILL be recognized in all 50 states in time whether YOU like it or not.

SO -- you may as well GET USED TO IT!

LOL

;->))

[ColonPal]

Dream on, MORON!

I'm calling you a moron because you STILL haven't presented a LOGICAL reason why same sex couples should not marry.

I am not going to hold my breath either, because like EVERY bigot, you won't be able to come up with a LOGICAL reason to ban gay marriage, even if I discussed this with you all day.

Which is precisely why I don't discuss topics like this with IMBECILES like yourself. So don't be surprised when I stop replying.

I'm just having too much fun making you look IDIOTIC!

[ColonPal]

No, it's not fair and we will NOT settle for it. If you don't like it, you'll just have to file it under the category of 'TOO FUCKING BAD'.

LOL!

You seem to know as little about marriage as you do about human sexuality.

[ColonPal]

LOL -- your 'desire' to breed is called LUST. I suppose you jack off to pictures of women giving birth, or complaining about labor pains?

And what makes you think gays can't have kids? Any penis and vagina can make a child. I have 2 of my own, AND am happily married to the same sex. So much for your moronic theory.

[ColonPal]

Are you saying that just because you didn't hear of gay marriage it is 'extremely rare'? Well, I'm here to tell you that you're WRONG. Gay's have been marrying as long as straights have. Just because you're clueless about it doesn't mean it isn't common. I was at my first gay wedding in the early 70's.

What might be new is getting our stubborn govt. to RECOGNIZE gay marriage when there SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A QUESTION.

If you don't like gay marriage: DON'T FUCKING HAVE ONE!

[ColonPal]

If we 'left marriage out of it' then it wouldn't be marriage EQUALITY now would it you MORON!

What's wrong with LEAVING MARRIAGE IN IT!?

Why is it so hard for you guys to see that? And WHY ON EARTH does it matter to you if gays get married? How does it HARM you, harm marriage or anything else?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer from a FOOL.

[ColonPal]

Instead of being 'Born-Again', why don't you guys just GROW THE FUCK UP?!

And while you're at it, GO BACK TO SCHOOL and learn proper grammar. You have the English skills of a NINE year old.

And if you don't like gay marriage, then DON'T HAVE ONE!

Just please do the right thing and GET A VASECTOMY before you make a horrible mistake and breed. People like you should NOT be allowed to have kids -- or at least be given a test of some kind.

[ColonPal]

I don't think I've heard anything MORE MORONIC in my life! OF COURSE black people aren't WHITE people. Marriage IS NOT just for heterosexuals, because gay people have married for THOUSANDS of years. So your bigoted theory makes no sense whatsoever since gay people have married just as long as straight people and since GENDER does not qualify a person to marry since the inception of marriage. The ONLY people trying to change the legal definition of marriage are religious BIGOTS like YOU!

[ColonPal]

You're wrong because what you're referring to is a Civil Union, not marriage. And if it's NOT called 'Marriage', then it's not EQUAL -- very simple, even for someone like YOU to understand.

What we DEMAND the equal right to marry who we wish, to get the same EXACT rights and entitlements AND to call it 'marriage'.

Whether or not some church's recognize it is IRRELEVANT, it's the US and State governments that WILL recognize it in time. Whether you like it or not, is also IRRELEVANT.

[ColonPal]

Yeah, but marriage IS necessary to be able to be by your lovers side on their deathbed, just as it is to get insurance under your partner's benefit plan. It's also much harder to leave one's wealth to non-family members.

Gay marriage needs to be legal in all states in order to balance equality.

[theWildNZGoose]

Is there a part two?

[BearGrylls227]

i love gay pride i think ppl who hate gays should fuck themselves, im looking for a man partner please respond

[parkgoer]

They Stole The Rainbow And made it Homosexual The Stole The word "Gay" and made it Homosexual and They want Marriage A joining together of a Man and a Woman throughout history and make that into a perverted joining together- It continues on and on with Homosexuals wanting to change society and common sense and decency with perversion

[curriejean]

That twisty little feeling in your belly - you know, the one you misinterpret as loathing and disgust - that's actually interest.

Don't be so ashamed of yourself! Come on out!

[ColonPal]

Yeah -- well, we just stole MARRIAGE and FAMILY and made them gay too!

;->)

I guess you're just gonna have to get used to things being GAY! haha!!

And if you don't like it: TOO FUCKING BAD!

[Topazeyesdazzleme]

you cant steal a word. It was society that changed the meaning of the word. Not just the homosexuals

[ilikechiken72]

@parkgoer you know what I find so wrong with that statement that SO many people make?? The rainbow is a symbol of PEACE. THATS why it was adopted for gay people! Because thats all most of them want PEACE! It's not hard to understand that if your smart

[Blairtim69]

@parkgoer

Marriage has been evolving constantly through history. Recently in just the U.S., blacks have been allowed to marry, children can no longer be sold into marriage, the master laws were removed from marriage, and mixed races can now marry.

The bible supports many forms of marriage including multiple wives and concubine.

[wavymavy]

Very nicely done, Currie.

(wavymavy = spoon_o_doom)

[Yamakoto120]

1:26 What the fuck does Gandalf has to do with homosexual marriages ? :(

:))

[curriejean]

The actor who plays him, Ian McKellen, is a staunch proponent of gay rights, and is gay himself. That's what the fuck he has to do with gay marriage, retard.

[Yamakoto120]

If you cant read, please dont argue... I asked what the fuck does GANDALF has to do with.. ? As a joke ok ? Jessus Christ ! You guys need a sense of humor !

[curriejean]

If you had a sense of humor, you wouldn't have made that "joke." It's not offensive, but IS bloody stupid.

[Yamakoto120]

Ouh yea its not a joke, it makes peoples cry like emo bitches ! Im sorounded by ignorants... -_-

[ColonPal]

But wherever you go, YOU will still be there, so I guess there's no escape from those 'ignorants' you speak of.

[kenballer00]

we may not live in a theocracy, but we do live in a democracy. the first amendment does not apply to voters. Pastors, clergy, and religious leaders have every right to convey and express their moral vision onto their community and into the voting process. Prop 8 ,or any other amendment, would not did not and does not undermine the constitution because the government didn't put it into law, the people did, and whether they voted for it on religious grounds is no one's business but their own.

[rkzenrage]

"Why People Oppose Gay Marriage".... because they don't believe in freedom, they are unamerican.

[Arachibutyrophobe87]

So you.....enjoyed the video? Sorry, I can't understand half of what you said. Oh, I see you're transgendered. And you're from the Obama Nation. Fantastic!

[benh05]

If I wasn't straight I would think maybe all heterosexuals had your dumbshit, tunnel-vision concept of how to TREAT people who aren't exactly like you or think the way you do. You have the right to act as childish and cold as you want, of coarse, but if anybody is the 'abomination' here it's you.

[benh05]

You think ANYONE is going to take your dumass, uneducated comments to heart? You're a fucking lunatic, out of your damn mind).

It infuriates me that you would say something like "and this thought is comming from abomination who is a transgender?" People who can't even SPELLCHECK, much less talk to or about other people with zero amount of class like you did is a disgrace to whatever family tree you happened to fall off of.

[Dollar130Shine]

Unlike most US citizens or religious soceity, for that matter. I do not need homosexuality compared with skin color. I understand clearly, that they suffer from this religious bubble.

It's sad in some religions, they consider killing a homosexual is an act of virtue. In which it reminds me of something.

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion."

- Robert M. Pirsig

[curriejean]

I really like that quote. I think I will keep it stored in my brain for use on pertinent occasions.

[Dollar130Shine]

"I really like that quote. I think I will keep it stored in my brain for use on pertinent occasions."

Here is a few more.

"To claim that the god of the bible is loving is like claiming a rattle snake is affectionate or a porcupine is cuddly."

- Gali Yonvadisi

"Truth and reason are Christianity's enemy, not Atheism."

- (Can't remember who at the moment.)

[Dollar130Shine]

[With modifications]

"If the argument is about fruits vs. vegetables, comparing apples and oranges makes good sense. :) "

I forgot to mention. If it was a race/ethnic/nationality issue. It would be a completely different scenerio than homosexuality. So comparing homosexuality with skin color is ludacris. That was the reason why is used the "comparing apples with oranges" speech.

NOTE: I apologize to the double posting.

[curriejean]

You haven't really explained yourself, though. You're just saying. "It's a different issue because, see, it's a completely different issue."

[Dollar130Shine]

"You haven't really explained yourself, though. You're just saying. "It's a different issue because, see, it's a completely different issue."

1) When have homosexuals been slaves in the US?

2) When were they refused to educatioin?

3) When were they refused to count?

4) When did their vote count as half?

5) Ect.

You don't need to explain, that both are different topics. Yes, they might relate a little but that doesn't mean they relate to each other completely.

[curriejean]

Pulling back a little, we'll find general similarities, even though in terms of specifics, the two movements are very different.

This is what I meant when I said that yes, while apples and oranges are very different, they're still fruit.

Both black people and homosexuals have suffered much bigotry, hate, and violence for reasons unjustified. Both have been arbitrarily treated as morally unworthy second-class citizens.

Of course they aren't exactly the same. Who said they were?

[Dollar130Shine]

"Both black people and homosexuals have suffered much bigotry, hate, and violence for reasons unjustified. Both have been arbitrarily treated as morally unworthy second-class citizens."

That is true in a religious society. However, skin color you can not hide & homosexuality you might (depending on the person). Also, I doubt homosexuality suffered as much.

[Dollar130Shine]

Other than that, I understand what you mean. We need to get over these medieval superstitions as a race. The human race, that is. All religions do, is cause more hate & or violence in one form or another.

"Of course they aren't exactly the same. Who said they were?"

I wasn't the one comparing skin color with homosexuality. Since you did, wether you know it or not. You implied it, either directly or indirectly. Otherwise, why compare them if they are not exactly the same?

[curriejean]

"Otherwise, why compare them if they are not exactly the same?"

Why compare anything? No two things are exactly the same, lol. :P

[Dollar130Shine]

"Why compare anything? No two things are exactly the same, lol. :P"

That's not the question that should be asked towards me, my friend (Since I did not do the comparing in the first place). However, I do understand where you are coming from (outside the religious bubble).

[Dollar130Shine]

"I don't know if I want to engage in a comparison like that. I can't think of a position that wouldn't make me feel dirty. :S"

I completely understand you, but, by not talking about it could make it worse, in one way or another. That is why we usually have conlicts with one another due to misurnderstandings or what not. Then again, who I am to make you think about what you should do.

[curriejean]

"However, skin color you can not hide & homosexuality you might."

Yeah, I had written that out myself, and then deleted it because I was over the limit. You're right. :)

" Also, I doubt homosexuality suffered as much."

I don't know if I want to engage in a comparison like that. I can't think of a position that wouldn't make me feel dirty. :S

[Dollar130Shine]

1) Those who are runaway slaves & are caught. They were put to death.

2) Imagine eating very litte each day & being mistreated by your owner? Then, to top it all off. Not only do you do, very hard labor. You are malnutrition as well as others.

3) If you are a runaway slave. Can you imagine, how much they have to always watch out for their back (life)? Just because they are a different skin color.

4) There is even cases were slaves were forced to mate.

[Dollar130Shine]

5) Another thing, imagine being a female slave, & raped whenever your owner felt like having sex.

[Dollar130Shine]

6:30-6:43

Comparing skin color with sexual orientatiom, is like comparing apple with oranges.

However, if a man/woman is in a love with a man/woman. What right does anyone have to say they are not in love? To assume that it is lust (homosexuality), is an assumption based on irgnorance without facts. How is it so? The fact that we do not know what happens in their everyday life, behind closed doors. Only the couple should know, unless you take the time to understand their situation.

[curriejean]

If the argument is about fruits vs. vegetables, comparing apples and oranges makes good sense. :)

[Dollar130Shine]

"If the argument is about fruits vs. vegetables, comparing apples and oranges makes good sense. :) "

Looks like you beat me to post the 2nd part. =p

P.S. I am a heterosexual & comfortable with my sexuality. Since I am a heterosexual. What is their to be afraid of (implying to homosexuality)?

[Dollar130Shine]

Lastly, I prefer not to judge/profile a person based on the following:

1) Sexual orientation

2) Beliefs/faith/religion

3) Skin color/race/nationaility/ethnic

4) Political parties

5) Ect.

In my perception of understanding. It is what a person does as a whole in society to help others. To help those who are more, less, or equivalent to you. Not only to think about yourself but to think others before or after you. Who might be less fortunate than you. Well that's just my opinion =/ ...

[garytheagnostic]

Well said.

[Arachibutyrophobe87]

This must be the best argument for gay marriage on YouTube. If I had a really popular channel with thousands of subscribers, I'd feature it in a heartbeat....hell, I'll do it anyway. Mind you, I have no videos and no subscribers....50 channel views must count for something, though.

[curriejean]

Woah, you really think that? You've got my heart all thumpy. Thank you very much. :)

[curriejean]

Wow, thank you.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'll be really sad all this effort doesn't piss *someone* off.

[Xoltaric]

This is brilliant and I can't wait for part two.

The sad part is that anyone intelligent enough to understand your video probably already shares our views.

[afcerberus]

awesome video currie! i hope ur account get really popular u derserve it!

Afcerberus A.K.A. steve

[curriejean]

Aww, thanks dahlin'!

[wavymavy]

Well done!

[depfox]

WOW very well done Video as a gay father of two you relly moved me with the pics.

[lairdofgarscaddon]

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in

> moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification

> for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith, economist (1908-2006)

[Desertphile]

I thought marriage was SUPPOSED to be gay......

[GHLemaitre]

Excellent, many good points that need to be raised.