Crysis Warhead HD5870 Part 1

[BulletProofGeek]

idk how this whole fps thing works....

i mean like i got a HD 5570 and i run BattleField 3 Beta on AVG 35 fps

and how can u run crysis warhead on avg 40 fps?

crysis warhead was made in 2008!!!!!

[bob333336]

@BulletProofGeek It's because of crappy coding, try to run this game on full settings, x4AA on 1080p and see what I mean. Very inefficient game.

[BulletProofGeek]

@bob333336 my monitor only allows 1080p and i turn the AA off

[BulletProofGeek]

@bob333336 my monitor only allows 1080 and i turn the AA off

[yasserlee]

your voltage i oced my hd 5850 to 925/1200 on 1.2v is it good ??

[deadlyhydra]

that looks amazing least i know which cheapest Gpu to buy to play crysis warhead :D i wonder if it works in crysis 2 though 

[bob333336]

@deadlyhydra Crysis 2 is easier to run IMO.

[jarettpunk]

i have a HD 5870 amd x6 core 2,8 ghz good motherboard win 7 4 gig ram an crysis runs normaly at 30-55 but sometimes it drops to 15 or 10 for about 2 min is that normal

[kamikazebr1993]

without the Fraps FPS you get those?, thanks for the video.

[jackpwnage117]

Okay, thanks but should I auto-tune overclock or leave at stock? I am afraid of ocing gpus only cpus i want to but do you know how to oc a amd anthlon x4 ?

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 Um overlocking an Athlon II x4 should be the same as any other CPU, just go into the BIOS and do it... And I use MSI Afterburner for the GPU...

[jackpwnage117]

@bob333336 Idk where to go because I found where cpu voltage and stuff is but the multiplier is already at 20 which is the default so Idk if i can oc it which i think you can no matter what.

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 You don't need to change the multi to OC the CPU... You can change the bus speed...

[cheeseburgerzert]

sorry what did you say the performance was without fraps again?

[ToReEnT]

You have GTA IV / Battlefield bad company 2 ? Pls tell me FPS, I want buy new graphic card and i dont know what if ATI HD 5870 or GTX 470, thx :-))

(Sorry for my english, i little speak because i from czech republic:-)))

[Arsjonisteman]

@ToReEnT

go for HD 5870, its almost the same as the GTX 470 (little better) but the GTX gets 10 times hotter wich dropps ure performance on long times, and the HD is like 200 bucks cheaper so ill get that:P

(btw ill get a HD 5870 in about a week from Club3D u should check it out =D)

[bob333336]

@Arsjonisteman The GTX460 ain't to bad either, at 800mhz it throws shots at the HD5850. Not bad for $200-$250 card.

[Arsjonisteman]

@bob333336

yehh it is a nice opponent for the HD 5870 but it is more expensive and it works as an central heating installation for ure house when u run it full throttle:P

but yes its very matched to the HD 5870 but i just dont like the over heating and the litlle more expensice price for a slightly worser performance than the HD 5870...

[bob333336]

@Arsjonisteman GTX460 is $200-250, in no way is it more expensive, and runs rather cool. I think you misread it as GTX480, yea I would NEVER recommend a GTX480. Only nVidia card I can recommend is the GTX460, it's just to epic. I have mine at 900MHz and it throws shots at my HD5870, and is faster than it in Crysis...

[Arsjonisteman]

@bob333336

mwah it doesnt matter much for my new system xD

ill have my HD 5870 slightly overclocked to 950 mhz but i dont really care i now play alomst all my games at a steady 18 fps so if i get 30 fps at crysis with mahh new system ill be happy xD

[jackpwnage117]

@bob333336 Is the gtx 460 better than the Hd 5770? Also what about gtx 470? is it same at 480 in issues and heating? I have amd cpu so i think i should stick with ati because people tell me that Ati+ Amd and Nvidia+ Intel

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 GTX460 is much better than HD5770, and an nicely overclocked GTX460 can perform the same as a GTX470, and a GTX460 @ 976Mhz is about as fast as a GTX480.

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 Lol, oh the noobcakeness of this post. Yes it is. All depends on the res of the monitor and filters though. If you ran it at 2560x1600 with x8 AA, it will lag on highest settings, but if you ran it on 1680x1050 with 8x AA it should run ok on highest settings.

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 Get the Orange Box, hands down.

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 Orange box. :)

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 Comes with Portal, TF2, HL2, HL2 Ep1, and HL2 Ep2. Worth it 100%. No Garry's mod though.

[bob333336]

@jackpwnage117 OH, then you will have 0 issues, above 60 for sure.

[ndragos87]

si strange i get more fps with q6600 oc 3ghz and 4 gb ram,an the same video card

[bob333336]

@ndragos87 This was done with the very old 9.12 drivers. Performance has increased notably with newer drivers.

[ndragos87]

@bob333336 oh i see np m8 :))

[kolofagos]

what fps will i take with these specs ? (resolution 1280x1024)

asus hd5870 1gb

amd x6 1055t

ozc fatality edition 4gb

[MicroScope888]

Hi how would the fps change with 1920x1080 resolution instead of 1680x1050?

Ty

[bob333336]

@MicroScope888 You would have a drop, but idk how big. Look it up, I'm sure you'll find a review with that res.

[Profanwolf]

Ahahahahah i like the noise, but no if that is your graphics card producing that noise, my graphics card makes enough noise already.

[bob333336]

@Profanwolf Its a house fan in the back, one of the big metal ones.

[Profanwolf]

@bob333336

Shit i hate the new youtube, and that's kinda.. useless

[bob333336]

@Profanwolf I do too, the comment deign is fail, it looks fugly, but I like what they did with the descriptions, but that's about it.

[Charkazm]

Well i am officially worshipping ATI! <3

[TheFoxz2]

Wat.

You should be getting like.. 50> fps, not 30

[bob333336]

This was with 9.12 drivers, on DX10 with x4AA with all enthusiast settings...

[moonshiry]

overclocking produces 3 fps more... is it worth it?? im a newbie at overclocking, getting my new com next week with a 5870. But i dont think im gonna overclock the 5870. I mean 5-6 fps more is not really worth it

[bob333336]

In certain situation in this game, at the settings I was playing at, it could be the difference between lagging and not lagging. So it up to you depending on if you need it or not.

[moonshiry]

well i guess your right

[Dingomaxigamer17]

have you VSYNC on or off?

[bob333336]

I have it off here.

[67CopperHead]

lol u get same FPS as me i get a little more and i have a 5770

[bob333336]

Not on the same settings ginger.

[rbrtostone]

@67CopperHead i get 25-30 maxed out on my hd5850

[Spisti200]

i have to wait too... i just ordert the vapor - x edition from sapphire. and im shure: IT WILL ROCK ;)

[Bastian36]

i hate ya :( cause i need to wait for my hd 5870 -.- but i hope it rocks !! :D

[captainclayman]

if you turn off AA it looks pretty much the same but you'll get like 50 frames a second instead of 30.

[bob333336]

I know, but I prefer having AA...

[NBAasDOGG]

MAX FPS in CSS is 60 fps with any card in the world.

Even if you got 2 gtx295.

[bob333336]

Your retarded, turn of vertical sync, and type in max_fps 1000 and you can get up to 1000. the Max is 1000 nit wit...

[bob333336]

type in max_fps 1000 in console*

[bob333336]

fps_max sorry its 4AM, im trippen out xD

[ExtraTerrestrials]

lol it's because of the SYNC which limits fps.

anyway damn crysis is still a hard game to max out ;)

[ShawnGlory]

lol dont use caps if u dont know what u're blabbering about u're makin others laugh at u

[bob333336]

Don't worry, NBsasDOGG is retarded. He thinks that the GTX380 is out... So dumb...

[ShawnGlory]

Lol that's the best thing I've laid my eyes on all day

[Xiquad]

but really how much fps in css

[bob333336]

I run an ultra low config, so I get like 600fps...

[NBAasDOGG]

My gtx295 scores 11 / 17 fps more.

But your hd5870 score 20 fps more in GTA 4 and other single gpu games.

Man i can't wait for the GTX300 serie.

I think they will be very expensive, right?

In my opinion ATI is cheaper and sometimes better like HD5850 vs GTX285.

Good video anyway 5/5

[bob333336]

Thank you, but I think the HD5970 will out perform the GTX3xx... HD5870/50 might be out performed but that's cause its meant to meet the $300-400 range, and I don't think they will be out performed THAT badly...

[chakiller36]

@bob333336 Yup HD5970 will out perform GTX 3xx

[keffje007]

@chakiller36 hmm youre saying that gtx 300 series are gonna have less performance then hd5970???(im not a nvidia fanboy im getting a hd5870 myself but just setting the facts straight?

[chakiller36]

I'm not 100% sure but Nvidia have announced some of the card features and its not to good. 5970 might outperform but still Nvidia got much better drivers and overall i think its better quality.(Nvidia)

I'm not a fanboy, i just buy what's best.

[bob333336]

How do they have better quality? LOL, I count count the number of people who had their GTX280's just stop working after folding for a little while. I'm not saying ATi is any better, as I have had my share of broken ATi cards as well, I think both suck when it comes to quality... ;)

And drivers are fine for ATi now, the 10.1 work perfect IMO.

[bob333336]

I also get whats best, and GTX480 won't out perform my dual HD5870's, and my power supply (850W) wouldn't handle dual GTX480's, so I'm sticking with dual HD5870 cause I'm not spending money on a new power supply until this one stops working. xD

Even if it is fast, it still fails because its so hot, uses so much power, and its coming way to late. It may out perform an HD5870, but not when it comes to power usage to performance ratio....

[chakiller36]

ATI's drivers is very unstable and currently doesent support Java OpenGL optimal.

And i am sure the new Fermi card will run fine with SLI on 850watt PSU. People therse days buy overkill power supplys.

[bob333336]

Ati 10.1 drivers are as stable as it gets, wtf are you talking about? And it does support OpenGL...

And no a GTX480 wont run in SLI on a 850w PSU, it would need to be like the best 850w PSU ever if it does...

[moonshiry]

I thought ATI was the one who Introduced Open GL

[wardy92]

2 5850's in crossfire owns gtx 295

[bob333336]

Ya, I would expect it to...

[ShawnGlory]

and by the way how cards perform on games depends on the optimization and the company that was part of the dev-testing moments of the game be it with money or parts. nvidia has been very aggressive on that part.

[bob333336]

Very true.

[KapteinFruit]

Do you get a big bump up in fps with the 5870 OC'd to 1Ghz?

[bob333336]

I got around 10-20% boost depending on the game, I think it was like a 3 FPS boost.

[KapteinFruit]

Ok. Thanks for the info. :)

[cpunge001]

lol i thought crysis warhead was only snow and frosty =)

[bob333336]

Nope, that's later in the game.

[dragefyr]

:D uploaded on my Birthday :D

[bob333336]

That's cool, now I know who to dedicate it to! I specially did it for you then. :D :P

[dragefyr]

@bob333336 Hah! XD Yay! Woop! a secret gift i didnt see untill now :O now i know what graph card to get! yay! :P

[bob333336]

LOL, most definitely.

[dragefyr]

@bob333336 So is crysis (warhead) playable? or is it laggy ?

(Different games use different amount of FPS to make it smooth)

So well, will 6 Gigs of ram, a Phenom AMD X2 2.66 proccessor and this card run crysis?

[bob333336]

Cant you tell? Lol

[dragefyr]

@bob333336 Well ok let me just ask xD is 30-40 fps enough? does it go down and make it lag at any time?

[bob333336]

No, not really.

[dragefyr]

@bob333336 Okay.

[LizzyAston]

i get around 30fps with vsync no aa 1680 c2d e6400 at 3.4 and 4870

is the 5870, i7 and new mobo really worth that extra 5fps and 4xssaa? (or am i missing something)

[bob333336]

Yes to the HD5870 because I can run X8 AA and get 30fps, at that res, on top of that better image quality, all the while using basically the same amount of power. And DX11 games are right around the corner, they already have a DX11 benchmark out, Dirt 2 is coming out in a few days, Stalker CoP is coming out Q1 2010, Crysis 2, and Grid 2 are coming out some time in 2010 as well, and both will support DX11. I think DX11 will take off faster than DX10 did, and as it seems, it is. :)

[dragefyr]

@LizzyAston burn your Intel, get AMD :3 just rmber to get a decent cooler

[LizzyAston]

im planning on getting the i9 released in

2010, Q2. why should i get amd and not that one? what are amd releasing in the near future to convince me otherwise?

[dragefyr]

@LizzyAston You should turn off Vsync... its a fps killer in the most games, and it doesnt really give any difference.

[johnaiton]

ou are correct. The image quality is better because of the SSAA which actually resamples the textures of the scene compare to normal AA which resamples polygon edges in wireframe. SSAA = MUCH better textures, softer lighting, and softer tree leaves. Crysis has some shitty tree leaves but SSAA ftw.

The 5870 also has better radial AF. Some would say perfect.

[bob333336]

Even with SS, off it looks better...

[JoDaddyy]

This is actually one of the best Crysis videos to watch for gameplay. Also, I find that because this video is in HD adding on the quality and graphics from your graphics card make this video look like it's an on-screen video. Nice!

[bob333336]

Why thank you :)

[acidspoodie]

nice vid man but wats with the damn bongo's, it's like someone's tapping on the mic.

[maheru999]

How much fps do you have at 8xAA and Enthusiast on everything?

[bob333336]

Basically the same, only a little slower, still in playable range for me, so yes I use x8AA. :)

[Nucleariasi]

x4SSAA/x16AF drop your FPS to half, and they aren't that much of a need while playing a game...the difference is insignificant most of the time

[daveydinodave]

How is the P6TD as a Mobo? I'm thinking off getting one but can't find any reviews. Nice GPU By the way! :)

[LordNeb]

good results there, but to be honest, if i were you, i'd up the AA even more and use DX9 mode.

I'm a GTX 295 user, though dx10 is fine, i prefer the higher AA over the blur effects on barrels n'shit.

[keshaz12]

you try to kill your computer.....

[bob333336]

No....

[teamcaution10]

OMG

[Kozmoshido]

brutal comp, nice gameplay, solid fps

[BSSVK]

Do you have Windows7 or Vista?

Good.. i like this :) its running so fast :)

[bob333336]

Win7 RC x64

[Eclipezz]

my 2x 280's does better at 16xaa .. then ur at 4aa probaly cos of the drivers just came out

[bob333336]

The thing is x4 AA on my HD5870 looks much better than x16AA ever did on my GTX280 SLi, and x8 looks better than anything on any card. I still basically get the same FPS at x8AA as x4AA as well, and yes we have to wait for new drivers.

[MrBitchAssNigger]

pretty good performance over my gtx 260 but i will wait for gtx 360-80

[MeetMyMeatBE]

All the people complaining about it only being around 30-40 FPS. Humans can only see up to 30 FPS so what's the big deal?

[bob333336]

And movies are 24FPS, so unless you think movies are laggy, stuff.

[0mnis14sh]

lol, "the big deal" is that you're wrong. Any search on google will tell you that the human eye can see past 60 frames per second quite clearly. If you don't believe it then play something old like counterstrike 1.6 and limit the fps to 30 and then 60 (it looks and feels much more than twice as smooth), and if you happen to have a CRT monitor you can try out even higher frame rates.

[MeetMyMeatBE]

Oh, didn't know that, thought it was 30.

[bob333336]

Thats because CS/CSS have horible coding so you need 100FPS in 1.6 to acctualy get REAL 60fps, and 300FPS in CS:S to get true 60FPS. Everything in the game, including the crosshairs refresh at a different rate than the frames them self do, so to compensate you must have much more FPS... I know, I play CS:S ALOOOOOOTTTTTT

[0mnis14sh]

I'm not getting this. When you have V-sync on, -all- of the frames that are counted are real frames produced by your monitor. I don't see how having a higher frame rate than your monitor's refresh rate makes any difference as they are essentially wasted.

I've also played a crapload of CS 1.6 and trust me, 120fps (or even 60) on a 120 hertz monitor (with v sync on) definitely feels "real".

[bob333336]

I know what you are saying, but what im telling you is that the crosshairs refresh almost half of that of the FPS, shadows refresh even later, the farther something, it will also refresh later, that's how CSS and 1.6 are, don't believe me ask any pro CSS/1.6 player...

[Aragiss]

wrong... human eye can percieve at least 120 fps and probably over 200... but since the eye is not a camera, fps is a wrong type of measurement to begin with. and srsly, don't you notice the difference between smooth 60 fps gameplay and 30 fps??

[bob333336]

60FPS is the max, and movies are run at 26fps, so 30fps is still smooth, but yes 60fps feels better...

[Aragiss]

i was replying to MrBithcAssNigger. great card btw

[LordNeb]

60 is max for the human eye.

fact

[Aragiss]

just type "human eye fps" at google and get you fucking facts right

[LordNeb]

we can perceive 120fps with both eyes. 60 per eye.

thats why we require 120hz monitors for 3d vision for example.

But hey! if you think you can tell the difference between 300fps and 60fps, by all means get that tri sli setup and play at 1280 x 1024 :)

[bob333336]

The reason you need 120hz monitors for 3D is because its rending 2 images as one time, so each image its rendering can be rendered at 60hz not because you can see 120hz, because 3D cuts the refresh rate of each image by 1/2.

[Aragiss]

bob333336 pretty much answered your question. think twice before saying something that you think is a fact, ok?

[LordNeb]

well actually, that's exactly what i said. how about you read the comments?

infact, what bob said proves me right and you wrong. n00b

note the 60 per eye part.

you're so raged! rofl

[Aragiss]

3d may be using 60 fps but that doesn't mean it is max fps. it isn't possible to express the limitations of human perception as a given max frame rate

anyone that says 60 is max or 120 is max for the human eye, is terribly wrong...

so you fail lol

[Aragiss]

"can see" isn't equal to "max fps" change your retarded logic

[LordNeb]

...

Ok mate, i take it all back :)

all i know is, we need 60fps. nothing more, nothing less.

Either way, you may want to see a DR about that sand in your vagina.

[Aragiss]

lol south park

[LordNeb]

lol :)

[bob333336]

You only need more than 60FPS in CS, because somethings refresh half the rate of the FPS, CS is weird so the game's FPS, isn't really full screen FPS. In CS:S farther something is slower it refreshes, so while most things near by refresh at 60fps, some things farther might refresh at 30fps, Its complicatedly weird. The main reason you want more than 60fps in CS 1.6 is because the Cross-hairs refresh half the speed of the fps, so the game is going 60fps but the cross-hairs at 30 or less...

[redgrayz]

FPS?

[bob333336]

Right top corner, same as my other video...

[myoelas]

alright!

[myoelas]

good vid!

but there is no need to run the gpu-fan at 5000% ;-)

it will adjust automatically, and it´s quite!

i got a xfx 5870, and the card works proberly without changing the fan speed.

greetings,

stevo

lg,

stefan

[bob333336]

I also have 3x 150cfm fans in there, and i wear headsets when i game so its fine lol

[guitarhead429]

this card is beastly...might get one to replace my 9800gt

[vicskyline9]

you should use the the Ultra High mod to realy test out your gpu

[PuiuDR]

only dx10 with hd5000 series ?

[bob333336]

HD5870 supports DX11.

[STRIKER520]

The new cards are the start of DX11 cards along with landscape mode with support of 3 monitors.

[bob333336]

You can get the HD5870 Six, which has 6 display ports when it comes out as well.

[dollerus]

can you plzz fix the links? doesnt work for me.

Can you higher your volt with that? Bah i cant w8 until i get my 5870!

[bob333336]

I will, you can go on my Overclocking video if you want too.

[Calaghi]

Awesome card. may I ask what cooler you use for the 920?

[bob333336]

TRUE120

[DJBACON8D]

Very nice videos you have! I'm planning on buying this card 2^^

[DIRENGREY097]

some quick questions. what is a safe voltage increase for a 5870? can i do it right out of the box or do i have to break it in a little by having it strecth it's legs a little and warm up with some benchies,lol?

i'm getting a xfx version cause of warrenty and of course cause xfx has the coolest box art and the door handle thingy,lol just kdding.that's not why...maybe... ^-^

[bob333336]

Yes you can go it right out of the box, check out my overclocking video, even shows you how, and 1.35v is probably the highest safe voltage.

[skywalkmangeforce]

why did u turn HT off, you get better results with it on

[bob333336]

I've already answered this twice, Games don't use more than 2-4 thread, so having HT on, wouldn't make a difference, all it would do is produce more heat. So, no I wouldn't, if anything in some games its less FPS...

[skywalkmangeforce]

ill test it when my 5870 comes tommorow

[bob333336]

Ok go for it, but it shouldn't make a difference, for me I actually get more FPS with it off...

[skywalkmangeforce]

i got this card today and yes its defo 20%+ faster than 295 in crysis, remember this is a single card so microstuttering is no longer a problem, i had MS problem with 280s which is why i changed, glad i did, SLI showed 60FPS but felt like 25, the ATI5870 shows 60FPS and feels like 60FPS, and bob333336 HT off improves FPS but only by a half a frame in crysis and 3 FPS in farcry 2

[bob333336]

yep

[PuiuDR]

nice monitor =)

[G9xXx]

nice one bob333 :)

peeps subscribe for unboxing, benches and gameplays with 5870 CFX :) getting them on tuesday

[bob333336]

:) Sick

[PentagramReativeX]

great ur fps aren't lower than 30,,,,just great

[bob333336]

My sarcasm senses are tingling

[stupidguyaabbcc]

why don't u use 2X AA for more fps. or why not drop AA all together?

[bob333336]

Because I prefer image quality in a game such as Crysis...

[DevSivram]

it goes below 30fps right here 0:46

[bob333336]

OH NOEZ WHAT WILL WE EVER DO!

[ricky1345]

This is a very serious problem. It went below 30fps, that is just terrible, turn the damn HT on

[bob333336]

A: No its not, this is a single GPU card, running Crysis on all highest settings, and getting 30+fps 99% of the time... You also do know Crysis is coded for nVidia cards, so much to the point, that Crysis only uses 1/5th of each stream processors capability in my card?

B: HT won't help, do I have to say this a hundred more times, the game doesn't use more than 2-4 threads, turning HT on won't improve performance even in some games its show to improve when you turn it off...