I work in these mines. The environmental impact is not nearly as bad as the media has led everyone to believe. Every square inch of land that is dug up to extract the oil sand is replanted with trees afterwards. The refineries do produce a lot of CO2, but that is a tiny fraction of what is being produced globally. The economic benefits for my country far out way the environmental costs. A labourer can easily make $80 000 a year, a person with a trade can make double that. Its huge money
@willythewildwino There is something called Entropy and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics that makes your incredibly energy-intensive means of producing energy a colossal wasteful expensive. Namely, this insanity destroys more use-able energy (for producing work) faster than it is replaced by photosynthesis. Hence, it will fail.
@MrRossT1 Actually here in Alberta, Canada we do refine a lot of the oil that is extracted from the oil sands. But we dont have the capacity to refine it all due to the huge amounts of oil we are producing.
Then wouldn't it make more sense to build more refineries? There's delays on the Keystone extension, in that time frame, more refineries can be built instead of waiting for the greenlight from the US State Department.
Seeing the oil refineries and digging and destruction reminds me of the scenes in Lord of the Rings of Mordor. It's really frightening to see such destruction...
@Razer9672 haha thats EXACTLY what call it!! I work there, and at night it looks exactly like Mordor. The glowing refineries remind me of Saurons eye, always watching.....
" Don't blame the people, blame our corrupt government "
Just letting you know: this is the biggst load of BULLSHIT CRAP that you just repeat ad nauseum as a sound bite that you see repeated on the internet without thinking. Government is nothing more than a collection of people - that make laws! People can make any fucking laws they want - good or bad - if they want.
First, make it legal to blow up the prisons, kill the prison guards and cops. Then see how far cops...
@gibb1991 ... will go toward taking away the freedoms of people who then get a bomb, blow up the Fed, and kill every fucking bankster and corporate-CEO who makes more than any other worker in the company.
Mandate a law that everybody gets paid the same rate. Period.
@MrRossT1 WHAT "didn't work" in USSR or Cuba? Those are two countries with 2 completely different histories. No one-size-fits-all generalization fits for both of them.
USSR SHOULD have been broken up by FORCE years ago: trying to unify nations that were un-unifiable (if that were a word). Cuba HAS done tremendously well, kicking dependence on fossil fuels, gaining energy independence. USA needs to follow Cuba's example.
Paying everyone the same wage. Didn't work for USSR and Cuba. And have you been to Cuba lately? Please go there, and see with your own eyes before typing. And Cuba is not energy independent. Rolling black outs daily are very common in Cuba. Critique of the state is not welcome, people are jailed for talking politics ( be it racism and/or poverty) in Cuba. It's only now they,State Gov't, is allowing people to be "regulated" entrepreneurs.
@MrRossT1 Yes, it works for those who otherwise would not have gotten paid at all.
Stop with this unscientifiic politically biased excrement of labeling socialism or communism as "not working". Cuba's always been backwards technologically long before communism.
Were all those boats in the river running on fuckin water????? Especially the greenies in the gas guzzler jet boat!!!! Fuckin hypocrites I'm from way up northern Ontario where the lakes are probly some of the most pristine in the country...I've caught walleyes and pike with lumps on them. Indians just lookin for more handouts...half them fuckers up there work for syncrude anyways LOL
Why do people insist on calling it "Canadian" oil. It is Albertan oil. And more importantly it belongs to the oil companies. Stelmach goes on TV and tells anyone dumb enough to believe him that the tar sands provide energy security for Canada. What a joke! If the price of oil spikes up to $200 dollars a barrel, does he think Canadians will be paying $199.99 a barrel? I will tell you exactly down to the penny what we will be paying...$200 dollars. How is that energy security?
@MrRossT1 90 percent of the planet nationalized their oil resources. The oil sands are different. They need colossal amounts of money to build the extraction infrastructure. That's why the royalty is a measly 1 percent. The deal is that Canada gets the jobs and the oil companies get the profits.
1 percent royalty in addition to the corporate tax on the companies. Oil sands don't seem to be under the label of crown corporation for now. Still with the additional 7Billion the company would have to pay for the rerouting of the Keystone extension. That 7 billion could be used to build refineries. Chinese corporations built refineries in South Sudan quite quickly.
Yes, and if we are gonna be this evil, why doesn't this stooopid pm -harpo- use it as a bargaining tool instead of GIVING it away!! And he calls himself an economist??? Puleeze! What an idiot!!!
@ulgrum History? What history? History will require someone being alive to tell the tail. The cockroaches might tell the tail of how hard it was for them to survive.....if they make it
if it wasn't the typical structural (aka imposed by authority or macro conditions unavoidable) long-term lose-lose setup, i may b impressed.
this bizarre hypnotically induced oil dependency in this day and age has got to go! this late in the game, it's near impossible to solve respectfully within the minutia of the situation.
3:20 Dirty Oil no matter where; 5:16 the land is life. How do we forget that the land & the ocean, the air, are all required to live? I guess we figure it won't matter as we personally will be dead (better hope so) before the results unfold. Whatever can we do to make it truly matter to ourselves what we leave for the future?? And we say it is logical to behave this way. Hmmmm.......
wow, I'm disappointed in you - I thought you might come back at me with an actual argument, or some facts, or ANYTHING that wasn't an immature "insult". I can't say I'm surprised - Muslims usually resort to insults and violence when they have been cornered by reason and fact.
@boskinator Kill them (the islamofascists) too, along with the rightwing christians, bankers, corporate CEOs, and all the anti-environmental overpopulating morons who keep voting for conservatives like obama, clinton, bush, and meat-eaters.
Concrete highways which contain no oil last at least 3 times longer than the oil covered rocks we use but will that cange? No. Houses should be built into the ground to save 75% on heating/cooling. Its around $2000 for solar power but its not mandatory. When will common sense outweigh greed? Ill tell you when, when the bankers all die and the people who know money is the root of all even take up a system where helping is the form of payment and the goal of life is to sustain it and move forward
Keep the rich rich. Common sense people we have plenty of liquids that turn to a gas far below room temp. We don't need to boil water anymore steam power/coal/nuclear should have all been gone decades ago. Its all about money. Nobody cares about actual advancement that benefits mankind unless somebody is able to line their pockets. They charge for water the most abundant resource. a C02tax, O2 tax is next watch.
I vote dirty oil from the Middle East. Canada is too valuable to *ape the Sh*t out of.
~ Namaste ~
TheUniqueMaterial 2 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
I work in these mines. The environmental impact is not nearly as bad as the media has led everyone to believe. Every square inch of land that is dug up to extract the oil sand is replanted with trees afterwards. The refineries do produce a lot of CO2, but that is a tiny fraction of what is being produced globally. The economic benefits for my country far out way the environmental costs. A labourer can easily make $80 000 a year, a person with a trade can make double that. Its huge money
willythewildwino 1 month ago in playlist Season 2010
@willythewildwino There is something called Entropy and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics that makes your incredibly energy-intensive means of producing energy a colossal wasteful expensive. Namely, this insanity destroys more use-able energy (for producing work) faster than it is replaced by photosynthesis. Hence, it will fail.
mphello 1 month ago
go canada to hell with the evironment!!
i just want the economy, the money, oil, and endless days of driving!!
NoMoney25 2 months ago
Why in the world would a country ship its oil to be refined in Texas when it has the know how to do it locally?
MrRossT1 2 months ago
@MrRossT1 Actually here in Alberta, Canada we do refine a lot of the oil that is extracted from the oil sands. But we dont have the capacity to refine it all due to the huge amounts of oil we are producing.
willythewildwino 1 month ago in playlist Season 2010
@willythewildwino
Then wouldn't it make more sense to build more refineries? There's delays on the Keystone extension, in that time frame, more refineries can be built instead of waiting for the greenlight from the US State Department.
MrRossT1 1 month ago
shame on you canada!!!!
zucchinacompagna 2 months ago
At what cost?
TheUniqueMaterial 3 months ago
@TheUniqueMaterial actually this is like back to the good old days of industrial revolution
NoMoney25 2 months ago
Seeing the oil refineries and digging and destruction reminds me of the scenes in Lord of the Rings of Mordor. It's really frightening to see such destruction...
Some monkey wrenching must be considered I feel.
Razer9672 3 months ago
@Razer9672 haha thats EXACTLY what call it!! I work there, and at night it looks exactly like Mordor. The glowing refineries remind me of Saurons eye, always watching.....
willythewildwino 1 month ago in playlist Season 2010
@willythewildwino
You work there? How can I get work there? :)
MrRossT1 1 month ago
@Razer9672
Nope. Less movie watching, I feel. :)
MrRossT1 1 month ago
Sickening.
gibb1991 5 months ago
WHY THE FUCK HAVEN'T GAS-POWERED CARS BEEN OUTLAWED BY NOW AND ELECTRIC-ONLY CARS POWERED BY A GRID OF SOLAR AND WIND?
Oh, I know why: BECAUSE FUCKING SCUM SUBHUMAN UNPATRIOTIC IMMORAL AMERICANS KEEP VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS RATHER THAN GREENS!
Kill all the fucks who vote for republicans and democrats.
mphello 6 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
@gibb1991
" Don't blame the people, blame our corrupt government "
Just letting you know: this is the biggst load of BULLSHIT CRAP that you just repeat ad nauseum as a sound bite that you see repeated on the internet without thinking. Government is nothing more than a collection of people - that make laws! People can make any fucking laws they want - good or bad - if they want.
First, make it legal to blow up the prisons, kill the prison guards and cops. Then see how far cops...
mphello 5 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
@gibb1991 ... will go toward taking away the freedoms of people who then get a bomb, blow up the Fed, and kill every fucking bankster and corporate-CEO who makes more than any other worker in the company.
Mandate a law that everybody gets paid the same rate. Period.
mphello 5 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
@mphello
That didn't work in USSR or Cuba. Why would it work now?
MrRossT1 1 month ago
@MrRossT1 WHAT "didn't work" in USSR or Cuba? Those are two countries with 2 completely different histories. No one-size-fits-all generalization fits for both of them.
USSR SHOULD have been broken up by FORCE years ago: trying to unify nations that were un-unifiable (if that were a word). Cuba HAS done tremendously well, kicking dependence on fossil fuels, gaining energy independence. USA needs to follow Cuba's example.
mphello 1 month ago
@mphello
Paying everyone the same wage. Didn't work for USSR and Cuba. And have you been to Cuba lately? Please go there, and see with your own eyes before typing. And Cuba is not energy independent. Rolling black outs daily are very common in Cuba. Critique of the state is not welcome, people are jailed for talking politics ( be it racism and/or poverty) in Cuba. It's only now they,State Gov't, is allowing people to be "regulated" entrepreneurs.
MrRossT1 1 month ago
@MrRossT1 Yes, it works for those who otherwise would not have gotten paid at all.
Stop with this unscientifiic politically biased excrement of labeling socialism or communism as "not working". Cuba's always been backwards technologically long before communism.
mphello 1 month ago
@mphello
Good luck in life, with whatever you choose to do. Best of luck. :)
MrRossT1 1 month ago
Excellent documentary. Very well done.
LuckyLeftyLuciano 6 months ago
Were all those boats in the river running on fuckin water????? Especially the greenies in the gas guzzler jet boat!!!! Fuckin hypocrites I'm from way up northern Ontario where the lakes are probly some of the most pristine in the country...I've caught walleyes and pike with lumps on them. Indians just lookin for more handouts...half them fuckers up there work for syncrude anyways LOL
fortmcmurraycash 6 months ago
Why do people insist on calling it "Canadian" oil. It is Albertan oil. And more importantly it belongs to the oil companies. Stelmach goes on TV and tells anyone dumb enough to believe him that the tar sands provide energy security for Canada. What a joke! If the price of oil spikes up to $200 dollars a barrel, does he think Canadians will be paying $199.99 a barrel? I will tell you exactly down to the penny what we will be paying...$200 dollars. How is that energy security?
drmodestoesq 7 months ago 3
@drmodestoesq
The option is always to nationalize. Just like Venezuela did.:)
MrRossT1 1 month ago
@MrRossT1 90 percent of the planet nationalized their oil resources. The oil sands are different. They need colossal amounts of money to build the extraction infrastructure. That's why the royalty is a measly 1 percent. The deal is that Canada gets the jobs and the oil companies get the profits.
drmodestoesq 1 month ago
@drmodestoesq
1 percent royalty in addition to the corporate tax on the companies. Oil sands don't seem to be under the label of crown corporation for now. Still with the additional 7Billion the company would have to pay for the rerouting of the Keystone extension. That 7 billion could be used to build refineries. Chinese corporations built refineries in South Sudan quite quickly.
MrRossT1 1 month ago
And Aboriginal peoples' lives, workers' lives, are the most expendable.
kitabwalli 7 months ago
Yes, and if we are gonna be this evil, why doesn't this stooopid pm -harpo- use it as a bargaining tool instead of GIVING it away!! And he calls himself an economist??? Puleeze! What an idiot!!!
cheena1ca 7 months ago
fail canada
getona 8 months ago 6
Hideous Filthy Moonscape
/watch?v=HoKW771tG_Q&hd=1
techcafe 8 months ago
I don't see any way this is winnable yet. But I'm still looking.
Inediblehulk 8 months ago
Avatar in real world. "They [sky people, we] killed their Mother, and they're gonna do the same here." Where is Jake Sully?
arruhai 8 months ago
@arruhai
On Pandora. Not in the real world.
MrRossT1 1 month ago
Let us canada oil and forget the middle east. Hopfuly they will kill all eachother off
darkisato 8 months ago
History will not look kindly on big oil and their supporters.
Death to the tyrants!
ulgrum 8 months ago
@ulgrum History? What history? History will require someone being alive to tell the tail. The cockroaches might tell the tail of how hard it was for them to survive.....if they make it
cernunnos5 8 months ago 7
@cernunnos5
They will. :)
MrRossT1 1 month ago
oh but seriously wheres part 2....
simonk512 8 months ago
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Erik20091113 8 months ago
@simonk512 part 2 is at watch?v=nQrWZzBOCoc
Erik20091113 8 months ago
OH MY GOD! corporations are destroying the environment and a small native community and no ones doing shit??? I AM SO SURPRISED!!!!
simonk512 8 months ago
22:50 textbook prisoner's dilemma.
if it wasn't the typical structural (aka imposed by authority or macro conditions unavoidable) long-term lose-lose setup, i may b impressed.
this bizarre hypnotically induced oil dependency in this day and age has got to go! this late in the game, it's near impossible to solve respectfully within the minutia of the situation.
KnowledgeDriven 8 months ago
keep driving, folks. your cars have nothing to do with this...
mispistoleros 8 months ago
3:20 Dirty Oil no matter where; 5:16 the land is life. How do we forget that the land & the ocean, the air, are all required to live? I guess we figure it won't matter as we personally will be dead (better hope so) before the results unfold. Whatever can we do to make it truly matter to ourselves what we leave for the future?? And we say it is logical to behave this way. Hmmmm.......
Blam8o 8 months ago
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Yay tar sands! Now we won't have to rely on Middle Eastern oil.
boskinator 8 months ago
@boskinator
yay! now we will no longer suffer from tyranies imposed by america to secure the arab oil reserves!
ahmed337799 8 months ago
@ahmed337799
Yeah, but you'll unfortunately still have to deal with despotic and backward Islamic theocratic dictators.
boskinator 8 months ago
@boskinator
there are no such thing. all the arab dictators are american puppets.
ahmed337799 8 months ago
@ahmed337799
not all, sir - and the ones that are being ousted will be replaced by Islamist Supreme Rulers - just like in Iran. Wait and see.
boskinator 8 months ago
@boskinator
thanks for adressing me as sir my inferior minded comrade. But you are completely clueless.
ahmed337799 8 months ago
@ahmed337799
wow, I'm disappointed in you - I thought you might come back at me with an actual argument, or some facts, or ANYTHING that wasn't an immature "insult". I can't say I'm surprised - Muslims usually resort to insults and violence when they have been cornered by reason and fact.
boskinator 8 months ago
@boskinator
no we don't! that's ridicolous boskinator.
ahmed337799 8 months ago
@boskinator Kill them (the islamofascists) too, along with the rightwing christians, bankers, corporate CEOs, and all the anti-environmental overpopulating morons who keep voting for conservatives like obama, clinton, bush, and meat-eaters.
mphello 6 months ago
Concrete highways which contain no oil last at least 3 times longer than the oil covered rocks we use but will that cange? No. Houses should be built into the ground to save 75% on heating/cooling. Its around $2000 for solar power but its not mandatory. When will common sense outweigh greed? Ill tell you when, when the bankers all die and the people who know money is the root of all even take up a system where helping is the form of payment and the goal of life is to sustain it and move forward
TheWikkedchef 8 months ago 2
@TheWikkedchef BEST COMMENT EVER.
mphello 6 months ago
@TheWikkedchef haha do you know how much energy it takes to make concrete? not to mention the HUGE amounts of CO2 that is pumped into the air.
willythewildwino 1 month ago
Keep the rich rich. Common sense people we have plenty of liquids that turn to a gas far below room temp. We don't need to boil water anymore steam power/coal/nuclear should have all been gone decades ago. Its all about money. Nobody cares about actual advancement that benefits mankind unless somebody is able to line their pockets. They charge for water the most abundant resource. a C02tax, O2 tax is next watch.
TheWikkedchef 8 months ago