Christian here. I believe in Jesus and his teachings but I think the Bible as a whole has to be looked at in the correct historical context. Once again it's not a textbook.
@Parad0xial You know what? I'm not religious but I absolutely agree with you. I would never knock religion. I see it for what it is. It gives people something to believe in and this in turn makes them happy. What's the problem with that?
People overlook just about everything - no wonder societies are turning so upside down.
Scientology versucht schon seit langem unsere Verfassung zu unterminieren um ihre neofaschistische Ideologie auf unserem Territorium zu errichten - das bedeutet Ausnahmezustand.
Daher ist die Zeit gekommen diese Gehirn-Wasch-Fabrik zu stürmen und zu vernichten. Scientology solte uns nicht unterschätzen, denn tut sie das, so wird sie einen erbarmungslosen Krieg durchmachen den sie je gehabt hat.
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
this is when some punks try to stir up some shit with a scientologist to capture it on camera. Keep making scientology WELL renowned while making yourself unknown eh punks?
I know for sure in a residents building own by "Western State Property Management"
Their is for sure an " ORGANIZE CRIME ACTIVE" -that harass tenants and innocents people that even own some of the property in the building- I assume that the ORGANIZATIONS run by a "RUSSIANS Jews Mafia" (since this is their methods and there is a lot of them here)
Their is maybe some connections to the project "MKULTRA" that can be run trough a "REMOTE CONTROLLER" to aim on a specific "TARGETED-INDIVIDUAL"
Hey zakaria888 It's people like you is the reason why I have NO respect for religion. You people are so violent and angry all the time. I'm guessing your like 16 or something. Typical religious NUT JOB
Christians, muslims and jews are allot worse the scientology. They have caused more problems on this planet than any other religion. I'm an Atgeist and I have no respect for any religion or fairy tale gods.
@zakaria888 It's people like you is the reason why I have NO respect for religion or fairy tale gods. You people are so violent and angry all the time. I'm guessing your like 16 or something. Typical religious NUT JOB. All religions are cult's. They fit the definition of a "Cult" The word cult basically refers to a group whose beliefs or practices are considered strange. The word originally denoted a system of ritual practices and subject there followers to a form of "Mind Control".
@Alexrhone2011 ATHEIST you mean, and even if we do not agree with people who are of religion we should have enough respect for our follow man to alolow them their own opinion . I agree religion is the leading cause of death in the world (more wars have been fought over religion after all) but I think you need to pick and choose yoru words a bit better, or not fuck it who cares.
U.Barschel,J.Möllemann,Heiner Gehring(author),M.Pflock(political activist),Tron(internet activist),Karl Koch(political/internet activist),Bernd Seiffert(human rights activist),Kirsten Heisig(author/judge),Fritz Bauer(persecutor Frankfurt Auschwitz processes).My brother Markus Bott was tortured 5.5 years by the German BND.I have recorded 450 h on video which ended in the legal system.He then was tortured 1.5 years under the "protection" of the "legal system"
@TheGoalSetter Wouldn't you bash any cult that acts the way they do? If you'd been around in Germany in the 30's would you have been a Brown Shirt or fought them?
@TheGoalSetter You've fallen for to much of the CO$ propaganda. I mean come on now, even their Furher lost the faith of his own niece and other familey members who left the cult.
And Im sorry, a bargain with the devil is still a bargain with the devil.
As for "guts to organize"...yeah, to line their pockets with others money. That's not exactly something to look at as an example to follow...unless you like being a conman.
I'm not here to defend Sci. I am just attacking people that drink the mainstream media's koolaid.
Most people who hate Sci, don't know jack squat about Sci...except for what the media says about Sci. And I'm sorry, but the mainstream media IS nothing but mercenaries.
Have the guts to say (1) I won't attack Sci because I don't actually know anything about it; (2) I refuse to believe anything the media says anymore.
@TheGoalSetter Sorry but from how you talk I see exactly where your going; Ownership of your very own Underground Bunker out in the middle of the woods somewhere, maybe with your own pirate talk radio show yelling about the evils of "Duh Gubments"....
and STOP saying people "drank the kool aid", sound WAY to 60's and hippy-ish and these youngsters haven't a clue what your talking about.
Your life man, do with it what you want. Seems a waste to use it for hate though...just say'n
When I look at Sci's history, I see that they have consistently threatened authority branches of the powers that be (AMA, APA, etc.). Sci's keeps uncovering the PTB deception. I believe THAT is why the PTB's media is purposely slandering Sci and is, in part, orchestraing Anon.
Anyway, thanks for actually having a discussion instead of name-calling and other bully debate tactics.
@TheGoalSetter You know, you can fight the system by being part of it, you dont need to be outside looking in. I mean when you get down to it, what would change outside your window if all of them vanished tonight? Nothing right? and even if there was a New World Order, so what? The regular people don't care who's in power, just that someone is. We all like to believe in causes bigger them ourselves, but Conspiracys..? naaaw, I donate to Red Cross
What do you want me to say, in the past Scientology has followed even reporters stocking them, why wouldn't they do the same to protesters, the camera is there for a reason.
@DSD1v57BG32 No Problem. Well I think you people should leave them alone, if there is a crime phone the police otherwise just leave them alone.If you have no evidence of a crime then maybe there is no crime.
@DSD1v57BG32 Mass? I guess you mean catholicism. You do know the Catholic Church is stinking stinking rich? They have investments in everything, weapons companies even. They also own land that they stole all over the world.
The catholic church is VERY rich so no they don't charge a set fee at mass.
Everybody knows you have to pay for courses in Scientology. If you don't want to pay don't join the church. Its a persons choice,don't They MAKE you pay, you don't have to go there at all.
@DSD1v57BG32 No Church is free, everything costs money. Catholics get their money from bilion dollar investments, it isn't free, just paid for in a different way.
Yes life is tough, Scientology is just making it tougher, you do know to be in Scientology you have to give them specific details about yourself, so they could use that info later to silence you. I don't like any religion, but Scientology is just another way to get millions from regular people, its the knew catholic church.
@DSD1v57BG32 I know what auditing is yes. Its still up to a person if they want to do it or not, nobody makes you go to scientology. Maybe auditing is why powerful people hate scientology, it would reveal their dirty secrets eh...
If it was free to every one and not so secretive, I would not care, I would probably join, but seeing it is so secretive and breaks families apart just because they think a person has become an SP, is immoral.
Paying people for knowledge is immoral too, I'm also talking about universities and colleges, knowledge should be free so every one can see the truth.
@DSD1v57BG32 Who decided you the judge of moral practice. No church provides its service for free, they just pay for it by different method, nothing in this earth is free. I think disconnection can be a good thing, If people drag you down get away from them. Either way if someone wants to be a scientologist thats their business, you know you have to pay so you can choose to join and pay or not. Nobodies business
Sunlight is free, air is free, happiness is also free, when people start committing suicide because they can't pay there bills it makes it my business. When kids are molested my priests it is my business, when people bomb others for there religion it becomes my business. Who did make me the moral authority, no one but seeing that these religions have none, some one has to have some morals.
@DSD1v57BG32 Hapiness isn't free actually, it usually has to be worked for, air and sunlight are not free, the price of enjoying them was the struggle and survival of your ancestors and no church is free, building cost. phone the police if you believe a crime is taking place. If you tell them a bomb is going off they will deal with it, if you report molesting priests they will detail with it. If you have any EVIDENCE of a crime, then report it. Anything else is your opinion and nothing more.
I mean free, that you don't have to pay with money.
If I learned some thing is that even if you have enough evidence that a priest or any religious clergy men did something wrong the authorities wouldn't do much, this is evident in the 200 deaf boys that got molested in Wisconsin, none of the people got charged, the authorities would not do much when they are faced with a million dollar organization.
@DSD1v57BG32 Money is just a form of energy, it just represents something a person had to do to get the money in the first place, all things must be earn't and nothing is ever free. Now you are saying something different...The authorities have countless billions and billions of pounds..If there is no evidence then it is hearsay. There will be many groups you dont like in life, get used to it! It is a grown adults business to join a group or not to join.
You have to work for money, so you need to use energy to get more energy.
yeah they might be grown adults but they are weak minded and gullible, they will beleive and pay for anything they think is real.
Is it right for me to make my own religion then charge and brainwash people to give me all there money. I am surprise how they mastered the art of hypnosis, yes it is scientifically possible, one who wants to be hypnotized will be, there have been reports on these acts.
@DSD1v57BG32 Well if people want to be 'hynotised' thats their choice.Pople go to a hypnotists all the time to quit smoking etc. Who says people are vulnerable? are you peoples mum and dad? do you have a scientific test for who is vulnerable and then you decide if its ok for them to join? You decide this?
Actually they do, you have to answer question and they check how vulnerable you are, they make you feel bad and criticize you, so you fill like something is wrong with you ect.. its all psychological.
@DSD1v57BG32 Actually they want very capable people if possible and many scientologists are very capable highly successful and professional people. Wheres all these vulnarable people? Everyone I know is capable of making their own choices..
Any one whos been a highrank in the COS knows the disgusting horrible things their organization has commited. The truth gets leaked to the public like this, and for that high ranking members that try to leave the church are hunted down. There are numerous cases reported of this. The COS has alot of dirty secrets and questions thats they refuse to account for answer or acknowledge. Why do they attack, scream, walk away, when being asked direct honest questions?? Think about it.
scientology will be brought down once some real action is taken against it they retaliate against anyone who criticizes them so i say its time to seriously take some real action against them they are a cult no more no less any one who agrees with me add me as a friend
And your point is..? I'll go where I want when I want, thank you, and I'll say what the fuck I like. If you don't like that or fear the truth when I speak it, tough fucking shit. Come and find me and shut me up. I'll be waiting.
Also I don't "hate" all Scientologists, just the religion and it's leaders, higher ups such as Tom Cruise. Really I think the hole religion is ridiculous, but if you want to believe it I don't care, as long as it does not hurt anyone, but it DOES hurt people. Scientology is a cult and it makes Christianity sound believable :P
Not the video, what you said, and how you said it, was what made it a bad idea to post in a comments section relating to a cause that you probably believe in. I disagree with Scientology practices as well, just to clarify.
@NameRetarded Dude you know the catholic/christian church has like 12x the amount of money as what Scientologist church has, and all those collection plates they send out during church, im not defending Scientology but im trying to say all religions are about the MONEY!!!
@hectichorse yeah but you dont really need to put money in, its considered polite to put a few pennies or a pound in every sunday.
Scions spend thousands of pounds in "sessions" and in some case destroy people's lives through debt.
that's the reason Scientology needs to be stopped. period.
people want to believe in a crazy alien story, power to them. but profiteering off the believers and "fair gaming" anyone who criticises them deserves anything and everything they receive.
Like airsoftmanic said, you aren't forced to pay anything to christianity. Plus All the top 5 monotheistic religions give you what they believe in then and there in their books whether its The Torah, The Quran or The Bible everything they believe in is in those books. While Scientology has it so you have to pay to "remove thetans" and once you've paid to get to a certain OT level (OT1-8 8 being the highest) you are finally told what Scientology is all about.
@hectichorse Yes cause they totally force all those things down the followers' throats right? Collection plates are only for donations, bibles are still there in the church for you to pick up and read, heck they're even in libraries for you to take off the shelf, sit down and read. Catholic schools and events and confirmation are the parent's choice not the church's If they feel like their child will become a better person the parents will choose to send their child through it. not the church.
@hectichorse yea church collect money for fundraisers or to bulid a new church scientoligst stalk you till they got evry last penny and you go home and hang youself because you have a shitload of debt am i right or am i right
@NameRetarded Who are you kidding. Your religion have been feeding off the people for 2000 years. And having faith is garbage vs having knowledge. I'm not defending these scientology fruitcakes but your religion is right there with them. Quit kidding yourself.
@NameRetarded What makes you think I an atheist? For me to claim that I would have to prove there is no god. I can't do it anymore than you can prove your god is the truth. However, I am an agnostic (gnostic=knowing) because I can't prove anything either way...just like you. The whole "faith" bullshit thing comes into play for as an excuse. Btw, I'm an ex-christian. As far as scientology and your religion goes, they are the exact same thing. It's useless fairytales and does more harm than good.
@NameRetarded Westboro Baptist Church, sure helping a lotta people there. Forcing unfit mother to have kids who become criminals.... damn, wish we had more of that. Encouraging people to have 15 children a piece, driving overpopulation sky-high, round of a-fucking-pplause for you.
@NameRetarded come on seriously 45 thumbs up for the most hypocritical statement ever. ftr i'm not christian or scientologist. i disagree with some of the alleged tactics of scientology but it's a new religion and if u want to talk about alien stories lets examine christianity and all these christian religions survive on food stamps and Gods will do they. I have yet to discover a religion that doesnt completely oppose they're own beliefs by their actions bar maybe buddhism and humanism.
@SuperDutyCummins hell? the magical underground where people who chose to live their life as free thinkers go for not being sheep? and as a christian, souldnt you only be showing love and kindes like your faith claims to? why are you being a snobby bigot?
@downwiththeswickness or it should be called yet another pointless debate with a $cientologist nutjob. Anon, whilst I commend their persistence and hard work, perhaps needs to expose $cientology for any illegal activity rather than arguing with them outside their "churches"
they'll destroy you first. i'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but they're freaking scary. if they think you're going against them, they ll kill you.
look up "the unfunny truth about scientology". SCARY!
i'm sure they would find out...look at poor lisa mcphearson, she was a member and they killed her....and a couple of other people...but yea, i get what you're saying lol
When they ask if I am a reporter with their "e-meter" / lie-detector I won't say no, I will say "does it look like I have a job?" or something like that.
Maybe because Norway gives money to the poor in their own country so nobody needs to live in a car or something... People living in cars are always the violent ones x3
@sinionblack Yes. And another interesting point is the purpose confusion in which Diarettics was written. So you NEED their help to understand something that wasnt meatn tot be understood, just meant to suck you in. What a shame.
There is a priest over here, he has given all to the poor while he was a wealthy man, came to a country that was foreign to him and continuosly helps people out of hard situations.
Its not the church as an institution, its the people who are in it that matter.
3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade—kept in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice...
No it's not, because Harry Potter is admittedly made up we all know that and the author has told us. There is no real solid evidence that the Bible does or does not tell the truth that there is a God, so as far as I'm concerned to put all your trust in it is just as stupid as to totally disbelieve it's every word.
i can see you never read and did what's in bible to see if it's true or not...because of what you're saying .. but i can tell you it is more true than any of your talk.and i am not the only one saying that
I don't doubt Scientology is worse than 'real' churches, I think they are all idiots who follow the Scientology set of beliefs. But what brings one person happiness seems foolish to the next man, who are we to tell someone 'You can no longer be a part of Scientology' if they feel it makes them happy.
my church never killed anybody. my church didn't take money from it's people until they were broke. you can leave a real church, you can't leave scientology. people who are in it are afraid to leave. just because they wear smiles doesn't mean they're happy.
i'm ok with people who believe in different things. i don't mind that they believe in aliens and all that. it's the people running it who i fear. who are ruining people's lives.
I'm not trying to be an ass, i understand your point of view.
You know if you guys want to effectively close Scientology all you have to do is educate people about Scientology. Dont do these protests. Talk about the Xenu story, I mean how nuts is that story.
dacaptain84 your method is plausible but still wont work under the biggest factor that humans have which is stubborness. People occasionally refute being wrong even if they know they are. The best way to close scientology is by law enforcement through court justice. Scientology groups have illegal track records of scamming people of their money. Media has reported several cases already but nothing has been done. Why? because there are huge debates among it and law refuses to get entangle in it.
the primary aim of buisness is making money the primary aim of church is to convice you of their beliefs an save you soul from evil/ other religion etc
Stupid! Brain washing
claytungsten 1 week ago
Christian here. I believe in Jesus and his teachings but I think the Bible as a whole has to be looked at in the correct historical context. Once again it's not a textbook.
Parad0xial 1 month ago
@Parad0xial You know what? I'm not religious but I absolutely agree with you. I would never knock religion. I see it for what it is. It gives people something to believe in and this in turn makes them happy. What's the problem with that?
People overlook just about everything - no wonder societies are turning so upside down.
TheGarryKE 4 days ago
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Wer Krieg will, der bekommt den Krieg !
Scientology versucht schon seit langem unsere Verfassung zu unterminieren um ihre neofaschistische Ideologie auf unserem Territorium zu errichten - das bedeutet Ausnahmezustand.
Daher ist die Zeit gekommen diese Gehirn-Wasch-Fabrik zu stürmen und zu vernichten. Scientology solte uns nicht unterschätzen, denn tut sie das, so wird sie einen erbarmungslosen Krieg durchmachen den sie je gehabt hat.
SCHWEINTOLOGY 1 month ago
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Are you ready?
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
standingontruth1 1 month ago
this is when some punks try to stir up some shit with a scientologist to capture it on camera. Keep making scientology WELL renowned while making yourself unknown eh punks?
Mohrkai 2 months ago
They pay 100k to hear an alien story, christians get a free bible in a hotel, I CANNOT DECIDE!!!!
notquitepoetry 3 months ago
I'm Christian and I don't pay a cent to the church.
Problem?
MrNubcake007 3 months ago
when attack ,than mortal damage happens ,4them
shivator 4 months ago
what attack????? at the end all you see is a woman grabbing her cigarette from her mouth. do you mind uploading the uncut version?
sonoilluminati666 4 months ago
Christianity, bitch.
NoirRukario 4 months ago
Like It matters!
iqirus2 5 months ago
DAMN NATURE! you scary
AdolphX 5 months ago
People are just plain fucking stupid
infernorock11 5 months ago
scientology is just as stupid as any religion!
iqirus2 5 months ago
@iqirus2 Right! Except....its not a Religion! ;)
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I know for sure in a residents building own by "Western State Property Management"
Their is for sure an " ORGANIZE CRIME ACTIVE" -that harass tenants and innocents people that even own some of the property in the building- I assume that the ORGANIZATIONS run by a "RUSSIANS Jews Mafia" (since this is their methods and there is a lot of them here)
Their is maybe some connections to the project "MKULTRA" that can be run trough a "REMOTE CONTROLLER" to aim on a specific "TARGETED-INDIVIDUAL"
src438 8 months ago
third vid in a row muted :(
icttrav 8 months ago
Dirty bitch smoking a cigarette...
Ehhh
simmo19801 9 months ago
Did any one else hear gun shots at 0:38?
Lifeisironicreject 10 months ago
I don't see anyone attacking - what a false title for this movie
biogrand 11 months ago
Hey zakaria888 It's people like you is the reason why I have NO respect for religion. You people are so violent and angry all the time. I'm guessing your like 16 or something. Typical religious NUT JOB
Alexrhone2011 11 months ago
Christians, muslims and jews are allot worse the scientology. They have caused more problems on this planet than any other religion. I'm an Atgeist and I have no respect for any religion or fairy tale gods.
Alexrhone2011 11 months ago
@Alexrhone2011 dude fuck you atheist faggots shundt watch those videos. you faggot have nothing to do with this shit so better get the fuck out.
zakaria888 11 months ago
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@zakaria888 It's people like you is the reason why I have NO respect for religion or fairy tale gods. You people are so violent and angry all the time. I'm guessing your like 16 or something. Typical religious NUT JOB. All religions are cult's. They fit the definition of a "Cult" The word cult basically refers to a group whose beliefs or practices are considered strange. The word originally denoted a system of ritual practices and subject there followers to a form of "Mind Control".
Alexrhone2011 11 months ago
@zakaria888 so ignorant ;D
sTapleEVA 9 months ago
@Alexrhone2011 ATHEIST you mean, and even if we do not agree with people who are of religion we should have enough respect for our follow man to alolow them their own opinion . I agree religion is the leading cause of death in the world (more wars have been fought over religion after all) but I think you need to pick and choose yoru words a bit better, or not fuck it who cares.
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Germany murders to silence complaints
U.Barschel,J.Möllemann,Heiner Gehring(author),M.Pflock(political activist),Tron(internet activist),Karl Koch(political/internet activist),Bernd Seiffert(human rights activist),Kirsten Heisig(author/judge),Fritz Bauer(persecutor Frankfurt Auschwitz processes).My brother Markus Bott was tortured 5.5 years by the German BND.I have recorded 450 h on video which ended in the legal system.He then was tortured 1.5 years under the "protection" of the "legal system"
wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
Just another video trying to bash Scientology.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter Wouldn't you bash any cult that acts the way they do? If you'd been around in Germany in the 30's would you have been a Brown Shirt or fought them?
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago 2
@BadBunnyRides The US media is much more like Brown Shirts. Thus, I am harder on them than them than Scientology.
You drank the US media kool aid. Thus, you *trust* what the US media says about Sci. I don't.
In the battle against the powers that be, the enemy of my enemy is an ally. Thus, Scientology is an ally.
Frankly, they had the guts to organize and resist oppression. Something US citizens need to do. We should learn from Sci.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter You've fallen for to much of the CO$ propaganda. I mean come on now, even their Furher lost the faith of his own niece and other familey members who left the cult.
And Im sorry, a bargain with the devil is still a bargain with the devil.
As for "guts to organize"...yeah, to line their pockets with others money. That's not exactly something to look at as an example to follow...unless you like being a conman.
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago 15
@BadBunnyRides
I'm not here to defend Sci. I am just attacking people that drink the mainstream media's koolaid.
Most people who hate Sci, don't know jack squat about Sci...except for what the media says about Sci. And I'm sorry, but the mainstream media IS nothing but mercenaries.
Have the guts to say (1) I won't attack Sci because I don't actually know anything about it; (2) I refuse to believe anything the media says anymore.
The later is not as scary as you think.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter Sorry but from how you talk I see exactly where your going; Ownership of your very own Underground Bunker out in the middle of the woods somewhere, maybe with your own pirate talk radio show yelling about the evils of "Duh Gubments"....
and STOP saying people "drank the kool aid", sound WAY to 60's and hippy-ish and these youngsters haven't a clue what your talking about.
Your life man, do with it what you want. Seems a waste to use it for hate though...just say'n
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago 2
@BadBunnyRides
When I look at Sci's history, I see that they have consistently threatened authority branches of the powers that be (AMA, APA, etc.). Sci's keeps uncovering the PTB deception. I believe THAT is why the PTB's media is purposely slandering Sci and is, in part, orchestraing Anon.
Anyway, thanks for actually having a discussion instead of name-calling and other bully debate tactics.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter You know, you can fight the system by being part of it, you dont need to be outside looking in. I mean when you get down to it, what would change outside your window if all of them vanished tonight? Nothing right? and even if there was a New World Order, so what? The regular people don't care who's in power, just that someone is. We all like to believe in causes bigger them ourselves, but Conspiracys..? naaaw, I donate to Red Cross
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago 2
I'd rickroll these $cifags with the R.E.M. song "Stand". l.o.l.
dakotagerman1 1 year ago
Is that Tom Ska talking in the beginning?!?!
NooneEatsCandyCorn 1 year ago
For great justice scientologist bases will belong to us!
serpentinam 1 year ago
I have to go so i'll respond later/
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
You seem like a scientologist apologetic, is it okay for a church to charge there followers?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
not really an attack eh, more like woman asking you to stop filming her, which you rudely ignore.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
They would do the same.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 So your the same then, fair enough.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Except for the part of the million dollar church, than yeah.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 So, your morally the same, your just broke, fair enough, an honest answer.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
What do you want me to say, in the past Scientology has followed even reporters stocking them, why wouldn't they do the same to protesters, the camera is there for a reason.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Dont want you to say anything, you gave an honest answer.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
when the Catholic church was covering up there crimes, wouldn't you want me to record them? for proof?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 If you have a crime to report phone the police. Otherwise your just harassing people.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
If you have a crime to report , you need proof.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 EXACTLY!
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
exactly and that's where the camera comes in.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No crime took place. What your scared a womans gonna duff you up? You go down there in groups several hundred sometimes..lol
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
You have a point there for this protest, but in other cases, seeing the capacity to stock and sue people protesters need company.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 whats stock and sue?
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Are you a Scientology?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Public property, they can film it, depending in which country they are but it is still legal.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Sorry, I dont understand what you mean, what is stock and sue?
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
scientologists stock sp's who investigate what there doing,
They sue people who don't agree with them, there is a book about Hubbard their leader and there doing everything they can to stop the publication.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 I know what suing means. What does STOCK mean? I have never heard that word. Your allowed to sue people anyway..
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Sorry for my spelling, I'm Hispanic and my english is not that good. I meant stalking.
Yes you are allowed to sue people and they take advantage on it to sue people till they run out of money.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No Problem. Well I think you people should leave them alone, if there is a crime phone the police otherwise just leave them alone.If you have no evidence of a crime then maybe there is no crime.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Scientology is a cult, cults hide behind religion, most cults end the same way also.
Many members have been driven to suicide or been cut from there families because of this cult if you think that is right?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Thats just a statement of opinion. Phone the police.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
A statement of opinion?
If I go to a church they don't make me pay for mass, I can donate but they don't force me.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Mass? I guess you mean catholicism. You do know the Catholic Church is stinking stinking rich? They have investments in everything, weapons companies even. They also own land that they stole all over the world.
The catholic church is VERY rich so no they don't charge a set fee at mass.
Everybody knows you have to pay for courses in Scientology. If you don't want to pay don't join the church. Its a persons choice,don't They MAKE you pay, you don't have to go there at all.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Church should be free.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No Church is free, everything costs money. Catholics get their money from bilion dollar investments, it isn't free, just paid for in a different way.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Yes, but Scientology uses brainwashing techniques to milk there followers till they can't pay and go into massive debt, and some even commit suicide.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Phone the police then. Otherwise people can chose to do what they like. life is tough, tough luck.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Yes life is tough, Scientology is just making it tougher, you do know to be in Scientology you have to give them specific details about yourself, so they could use that info later to silence you. I don't like any religion, but Scientology is just another way to get millions from regular people, its the knew catholic church.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 I know what auditing is yes. Its still up to a person if they want to do it or not, nobody makes you go to scientology. Maybe auditing is why powerful people hate scientology, it would reveal their dirty secrets eh...
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
If it was free to every one and not so secretive, I would not care, I would probably join, but seeing it is so secretive and breaks families apart just because they think a person has become an SP, is immoral.
Paying people for knowledge is immoral too, I'm also talking about universities and colleges, knowledge should be free so every one can see the truth.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Who decided you the judge of moral practice. No church provides its service for free, they just pay for it by different method, nothing in this earth is free. I think disconnection can be a good thing, If people drag you down get away from them. Either way if someone wants to be a scientologist thats their business, you know you have to pay so you can choose to join and pay or not. Nobodies business
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Sunlight is free, air is free, happiness is also free, when people start committing suicide because they can't pay there bills it makes it my business. When kids are molested my priests it is my business, when people bomb others for there religion it becomes my business. Who did make me the moral authority, no one but seeing that these religions have none, some one has to have some morals.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Hapiness isn't free actually, it usually has to be worked for, air and sunlight are not free, the price of enjoying them was the struggle and survival of your ancestors and no church is free, building cost. phone the police if you believe a crime is taking place. If you tell them a bomb is going off they will deal with it, if you report molesting priests they will detail with it. If you have any EVIDENCE of a crime, then report it. Anything else is your opinion and nothing more.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
I mean free, that you don't have to pay with money.
If I learned some thing is that even if you have enough evidence that a priest or any religious clergy men did something wrong the authorities wouldn't do much, this is evident in the 200 deaf boys that got molested in Wisconsin, none of the people got charged, the authorities would not do much when they are faced with a million dollar organization.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Money is just a form of energy, it just represents something a person had to do to get the money in the first place, all things must be earn't and nothing is ever free. Now you are saying something different...The authorities have countless billions and billions of pounds..If there is no evidence then it is hearsay. There will be many groups you dont like in life, get used to it! It is a grown adults business to join a group or not to join.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
You have to work for money, so you need to use energy to get more energy.
yeah they might be grown adults but they are weak minded and gullible, they will beleive and pay for anything they think is real.
Is it right for me to make my own religion then charge and brainwash people to give me all there money. I am surprise how they mastered the art of hypnosis, yes it is scientifically possible, one who wants to be hypnotized will be, there have been reports on these acts.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Well if people want to be 'hynotised' thats their choice.Pople go to a hypnotists all the time to quit smoking etc. Who says people are vulnerable? are you peoples mum and dad? do you have a scientific test for who is vulnerable and then you decide if its ok for them to join? You decide this?
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
Actually they do, you have to answer question and they check how vulnerable you are, they make you feel bad and criticize you, so you fill like something is wrong with you ect.. its all psychological.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Actually they want very capable people if possible and many scientologists are very capable highly successful and professional people. Wheres all these vulnarable people? Everyone I know is capable of making their own choices..
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
@numinouslayers1
you should see some of the videos, they seem sophisticated.
Maybe the sea org. is professional but the rest don't seem so.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
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BenyaminTieh 1 year ago
@BenyaminTieh
Watch the vids on the right.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
I have no clue what Scientology is or how it works, could someone explain it so I would have more motivation to be anonymous?
tigab37 1 year ago
do scilons use toilet paper
no their tongues
anonygonads 1 year ago
All Scientologist must vote as a Democrat.
Now, I keel you.
rivronjack 1 year ago
Any one whos been a highrank in the COS knows the disgusting horrible things their organization has commited. The truth gets leaked to the public like this, and for that high ranking members that try to leave the church are hunted down. There are numerous cases reported of this. The COS has alot of dirty secrets and questions thats they refuse to account for answer or acknowledge. Why do they attack, scream, walk away, when being asked direct honest questions?? Think about it.
looseconko 1 year ago
scientology will be brought down once some real action is taken against it they retaliate against anyone who criticizes them so i say its time to seriously take some real action against them they are a cult no more no less any one who agrees with me add me as a friend
coolest12 2 years ago 12
im with you 100 coolest12
tibherius 2 years ago
gunshots in the background is that the answer to the videos question?
uncreativeranter 2 years ago
@uncreativeranter thats a bike reving
benc117 2 years ago
And your point is..? I'll go where I want when I want, thank you, and I'll say what the fuck I like. If you don't like that or fear the truth when I speak it, tough fucking shit. Come and find me and shut me up. I'll be waiting.
brandstifter68 2 years ago
Internet Tough Guy lol.
WeAreAnonymous1000 2 years ago
Christians and Scientologists are both a bunch of cunts.
brandstifter68 2 years ago 22
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Bigot, you're not wanted here.
JaredHatesPie 2 years ago
Brainwashed assailant, you're not wanted here.
TheDallas3 2 years ago
Are you honestly thinking that displaying hate on a video against something will be appealing to others who are neutral?
JaredHatesPie 2 years ago
It's not a hate video.
Also I don't "hate" all Scientologists, just the religion and it's leaders, higher ups such as Tom Cruise. Really I think the hole religion is ridiculous, but if you want to believe it I don't care, as long as it does not hurt anyone, but it DOES hurt people. Scientology is a cult and it makes Christianity sound believable :P
TheDallas3 1 year ago 2
Not the video, what you said, and how you said it, was what made it a bad idea to post in a comments section relating to a cause that you probably believe in. I disagree with Scientology practices as well, just to clarify.
JaredHatesPie 1 year ago
don't be so mean to cunts, they are better then that.
bokprop420 2 years ago 2
Christ
El Ron Hubbard
You
Me
It;s early in the millenium yet. Wait a few thousand years, then see who is still remembered before associating Jesus with the rest of us pussies.
wierderandwierder 2 years ago
@brandstifter68 scientologists are cunt, yes, but not christians
AnonymousTrollers 1 year ago
@AnonymousTrollers All religious believers are blind cunts
Druffmaul 11 months ago
@brandstifter68
Well atleast us Christians have something to actually have faith in.
All they do is pay 100k to hear a fucking alien story.
NameRetarded 10 months ago 62
@NameRetarded Dude you know the catholic/christian church has like 12x the amount of money as what Scientologist church has, and all those collection plates they send out during church, im not defending Scientology but im trying to say all religions are about the MONEY!!!
hectichorse 8 months ago
@hectichorse yeah but you dont really need to put money in, its considered polite to put a few pennies or a pound in every sunday.
Scions spend thousands of pounds in "sessions" and in some case destroy people's lives through debt.
that's the reason Scientology needs to be stopped. period.
people want to believe in a crazy alien story, power to them. but profiteering off the believers and "fair gaming" anyone who criticises them deserves anything and everything they receive.
airsoftmanic 7 months ago 3
@hectichorse
Like airsoftmanic said, you aren't forced to pay anything to christianity. Plus All the top 5 monotheistic religions give you what they believe in then and there in their books whether its The Torah, The Quran or The Bible everything they believe in is in those books. While Scientology has it so you have to pay to "remove thetans" and once you've paid to get to a certain OT level (OT1-8 8 being the highest) you are finally told what Scientology is all about.
Guyver89 7 months ago
@Guyver89 umm collection plates, bibles, catholic schools, catholic events like confirmation.
hectichorse 7 months ago
@hectichorse Yes cause they totally force all those things down the followers' throats right? Collection plates are only for donations, bibles are still there in the church for you to pick up and read, heck they're even in libraries for you to take off the shelf, sit down and read. Catholic schools and events and confirmation are the parent's choice not the church's If they feel like their child will become a better person the parents will choose to send their child through it. not the church.
Guyver89 7 months ago
@hectichorse yea church collect money for fundraisers or to bulid a new church scientoligst stalk you till they got evry last penny and you go home and hang youself because you have a shitload of debt am i right or am i right
AquaJetEmpoleon 6 months ago
@NameRetarded Who are you kidding. Your religion have been feeding off the people for 2000 years. And having faith is garbage vs having knowledge. I'm not defending these scientology fruitcakes but your religion is right there with them. Quit kidding yourself.
thybigballs 6 months ago
@thybigballs
You're no better, you friggin' Atheists. Don't talk down to us, your arguments stem 90% from the Holy Bible.
Hypocrite.
NameRetarded 6 months ago
@NameRetarded What makes you think I an atheist? For me to claim that I would have to prove there is no god. I can't do it anymore than you can prove your god is the truth. However, I am an agnostic (gnostic=knowing) because I can't prove anything either way...just like you. The whole "faith" bullshit thing comes into play for as an excuse. Btw, I'm an ex-christian. As far as scientology and your religion goes, they are the exact same thing. It's useless fairytales and does more harm than good.
thybigballs 6 months ago
@thybigballs
So Christians do harm you're implying? For your information dickwad, we HELP people.
$cientology DESTROYS people. All they do is take your money, THEN MURDER YOU. Don't believe me?
Google, "scientology kills people". Also, I apologize for calling you an Atheist. I just BELIEVE my God is the truth. It's all a matter of opinion.
NameRetarded 6 months ago
@NameRetarded Westboro Baptist Church, sure helping a lotta people there. Forcing unfit mother to have kids who become criminals.... damn, wish we had more of that. Encouraging people to have 15 children a piece, driving overpopulation sky-high, round of a-fucking-pplause for you.
jackdtroughton 5 months ago
@jackdtroughton
They're not even Christians, they're fags.
NameRetarded 5 months ago
@NameRetarded Christian is a synonym for that.
jackdtroughton 5 months ago
@jackdtroughton
How original.
NameRetarded 5 months ago
@NameRetarded uh, they both pay for a fucking alien story, his just deff has aliens, ur has black ppl being slaves
ryanireland187 6 months ago
@ryanireland187 I don't even dignify that statement with a proper response.... Just BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
CruxisFire 5 months ago
@NameRetarded Ummmm?
jackdtroughton 5 months ago
@NameRetarded dont act like christianity is even a hair better then this bullshit faith.
at least this faith wasnt made up by a 2,000 yeard old hippy ;)
shadowkid1993 5 months ago
@shadowkid1993 FUCK YOU
eLoH3L 3 months ago
@NameRetarded come on seriously 45 thumbs up for the most hypocritical statement ever. ftr i'm not christian or scientologist. i disagree with some of the alleged tactics of scientology but it's a new religion and if u want to talk about alien stories lets examine christianity and all these christian religions survive on food stamps and Gods will do they. I have yet to discover a religion that doesnt completely oppose they're own beliefs by their actions bar maybe buddhism and humanism.
DaddyCalls 2 months ago
@DaddyCalls Your statement is full of innacuracies......
MrMoBidnizz 1 month ago
@NameRetarded Christianity is no different to Scientology, all religion is a vile lie
ScottishCaledonian 1 month ago
@brandstifter68 enjoy your eternity in hell
SuperDutyCummins 9 months ago
@SuperDutyCummins hell? the magical underground where people who chose to live their life as free thinkers go for not being sheep? and as a christian, souldnt you only be showing love and kindes like your faith claims to? why are you being a snobby bigot?
sTapleEVA 9 months ago
@sTapleEVA i dunno im not perfect, its just when people say that kind of stuff it rattles me
SuperDutyCummins 9 months ago
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It's okay not to like scientology, but this is just obnoxious.
TonyStark59 2 years ago
EXTREEMLY MISLEADING TITLE!!!!! It should be called boaring argument.
downwiththeswickness 2 years ago 56
Or even a boring argument.
brandstifter68 2 years ago 3
haha pwned!!!
michaelspudin 2 years ago
@downwiththeswickness why? this has nothing to do with hunting boars.
also, fuck $cientology.
solidacid1337 1 year ago
@solidacid1337 FUCKING LOL'D
hacker13sacker 1 year ago
@downwiththeswickness or it should be called yet another pointless debate with a $cientologist nutjob. Anon, whilst I commend their persistence and hard work, perhaps needs to expose $cientology for any illegal activity rather than arguing with them outside their "churches"
tryandlisten 1 year ago
BEWARE OF THE CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY!
It was designed with the whole intention of extorting money from people who need real help.
Many people have died as a direct result of the cult of scientology's actions.
Don't be another victim!
For the truth, Google: Scientology's Casualty List
or go to xenuDOTnet for more info on the dangers.
Copy and paste to help inform people of a cult that promotes slavery and who actively attempt to sue or censor anyone who speaks against them
sinionblack 2 years ago 71
I want to join them...
To destroy them!
MagnusRulerHardt 2 years ago
they'll destroy you first. i'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but they're freaking scary. if they think you're going against them, they ll kill you.
look up "the unfunny truth about scientology". SCARY!
lucyinthesky16 2 years ago
you think I would tell them?
MagnusRulerHardt 2 years ago
i'm sure they would find out...look at poor lisa mcphearson, she was a member and they killed her....and a couple of other people...but yea, i get what you're saying lol
lucyinthesky16 2 years ago 3
When they ask if I am a reporter with their "e-meter" / lie-detector I won't say no, I will say "does it look like I have a job?" or something like that.
MagnusRulerHardt 2 years ago
well, i wish you luck then! ^_^
lucyinthesky16 2 years ago
lol thanks.. It's in Norway, and I don't think they would kill me.
MagnusRulerHardt 2 years ago
lol yea, hate to say it, but Norway is probably more friendly than the US...-_- some americans (not all!) tend to go a bit overboard on things...
lucyinthesky16 2 years ago
Maybe because Norway gives money to the poor in their own country so nobody needs to live in a car or something... People living in cars are always the violent ones x3
MagnusRulerHardt 2 years ago
@sinionblack Yes. And another interesting point is the purpose confusion in which Diarettics was written. So you NEED their help to understand something that wasnt meatn tot be understood, just meant to suck you in. What a shame.
analyzingfunny 1 year ago
@sinionblack I'm not taking sides...but in every religion they extort money, give people false hope for help when they need real help, ect...
kikook222 1 year ago
There is a priest over here, he has given all to the poor while he was a wealthy man, came to a country that was foreign to him and continuosly helps people out of hard situations.
Its not the church as an institution, its the people who are in it that matter.
Fred111000 2 years ago
discusing with Scientologists is hell stupid ffs -.-
WSAT1945 2 years ago
i lost the game
DrPullmeov 2 years ago 2
you just made me loose the game
thominaterx 2 years ago
O god damn it..
BobDole2343 2 years ago
1 Peter 1:3-9
3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade—kept in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice...
JohnEveryMann 2 years ago
Religious experience is niether actual or literal.Stop quoting it as if it was.Thats very unintelligent of you.
stratocaster539 2 years ago 4
yeah it's like quoting a harry potter book, all fiction no proof.
kissmenow34 2 years ago
harry potters Fiction ??? Shit.... i thought i really could fly from that 12 story building with my grans brush... thanks for that! ^_^
lightningpete 2 years ago
No it's not, because Harry Potter is admittedly made up we all know that and the author has told us. There is no real solid evidence that the Bible does or does not tell the truth that there is a God, so as far as I'm concerned to put all your trust in it is just as stupid as to totally disbelieve it's every word.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
i can see you never read and did what's in bible to see if it's true or not...because of what you're saying .. but i can tell you it is more true than any of your talk.and i am not the only one saying that
ceerijjay 2 years ago
I don't care, both sides are as bad as each other, projecting their views onto others.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
no way! scientology is way worse. real churches don't charge.
zelemont 2 years ago
I don't doubt Scientology is worse than 'real' churches, I think they are all idiots who follow the Scientology set of beliefs. But what brings one person happiness seems foolish to the next man, who are we to tell someone 'You can no longer be a part of Scientology' if they feel it makes them happy.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
my church never killed anybody. my church didn't take money from it's people until they were broke. you can leave a real church, you can't leave scientology. people who are in it are afraid to leave. just because they wear smiles doesn't mean they're happy.
i'm ok with people who believe in different things. i don't mind that they believe in aliens and all that. it's the people running it who i fear. who are ruining people's lives.
I'm not trying to be an ass, i understand your point of view.
lucyinthesky16 2 years ago 11
You know if you guys want to effectively close Scientology all you have to do is educate people about Scientology. Dont do these protests. Talk about the Xenu story, I mean how nuts is that story.
dacaptain84 3 years ago
dacaptain84 your method is plausible but still wont work under the biggest factor that humans have which is stubborness. People occasionally refute being wrong even if they know they are. The best way to close scientology is by law enforcement through court justice. Scientology groups have illegal track records of scamming people of their money. Media has reported several cases already but nothing has been done. Why? because there are huge debates among it and law refuses to get entangle in it.
yuna238 2 years ago 2
Is it legal to videotape anyone in a public place without consent? I'm merely curious.
2persian4u 3 years ago
not in the United States.
kleptobyte 3 years ago
Yeah it is. There is no reasonably expectation of privacy, so you can film away (excluding minors... you're not allowed to tape minors).
seafury 2 years ago 2
the primary aim of buisness is making money the primary aim of church is to convice you of their beliefs an save you soul from evil/ other religion etc
$cientology is an buisness
SSeth123 3 years ago
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yuna238 2 years ago