Byzantine Orthodox Instrumental Music - ERXOMENOS O KYRIOS

[adamantis4657]

The title of the vid is a bit irritating because there is no instrumental orthodox music. Instruments are forbidden in Church Music.

This is perhaps religious byzantine Music but not Orthodox Church Music.

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 They were not always forbidden,there are many paintings in churches that picture people or angels playing lutes and ouds,flutes,violins,lyras...

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: ORTHODOX ICONOGRAPHY!

This is SYMBOLIC and not real. NO IN ORTHODOXY INSTRUMENTS WERE NEVER USED FOR CHURCH MUSIC. NEVER

It is only the Greek Modernised Church that goes form ONE INNOVATION TO THE NEXT:

PEWS, ORGANS, IMMODEST CLOTHING etc...

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 U mad bro?

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: Everything I WROTE IS TRUE!

Why do u wonder? That the Greek Church is fULL OF INNOVATION? Yes it is true:

NEW CALENDAR, PEWS, ORGANS, IMMODEST CLOTHING, PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE PROSTRATIONS etc..

The Greek Church is VERY MODERNISED and INNOVATED!

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 U mad bro?

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: U MAD BRO?

What is it? A statement a questions or what?

Do u not can ask and discuss in a NORMAL WAY? Is the ghetto style or what?

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 No,it is just SARCASM to short-brained people like YOU sir!

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: Your SARCASM does not work!

Instead of posting nonsense - WHY DO U NOT PROVE THAT I AM WRONG? ha?

Come on - when I am wrong - than show where and why! IF NOT REPENT and WEEP over your sins!

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 God help you...

Now solve your personal problems instead of pretending to be somebody on the Net.

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: NO GOD HELP U!

Because again instead of proving me wrong u blame me and post nonsense!

When I am wrong PROVE IT and I will ask forgivness!

IS THE GREEK CHURCH FULL OF INNOVATION? YES:

Especially in USA they even have ORGANS - YES ORGANS - what horrible INNOVATION and TRANSGRESSION AGAINST THE HOLY FATHERS.

They HAVE PEWS - horrible. THEY SIT DURING LITURY - can u imagine - THEY SIT ON PWES LIKE PROTESTANTS.

Immodest Clothing - women are dressed like on beach!

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 Why the heck is it bad to use traditional instruments?Make clear to your brain that I DONT talk about dances and crazy rhythms.HAVENT THE HOLY FATHERS PLAYED PSALTIRI OR TANBUR OR LYRA?

Anyway,I have blocked you since you irritate me ta malla.Bye bye short-brained bro.

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: Do u want that people think u are silly?

1.) Instruments WERE NEVER USED IN ORTHODOXY - NEVER - can be proven from church history. NO PSALTIRI NO TANBUR - sorry.

2.) Instruments in CHURCH ARE EVEN FORBIDDEN BY THE HOLY FATHERS - many have written against Instruments and why the church does not use them

3.) It is against HOLY TRADITION - NO ONE CAN CHANGE HOLY TRADITION.

Whoe ever sets ASIDE ANY TRADITION OF THE CHURCH - ANATHEMA (7th Ecumenical Synod)

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: WHY DID U CANCEL YOUR POST?

1.) Stop TO CURSE

2.) to be against INSTRUMENTS is not FUNDAMENTAL but NORMAL ORTHODOX TEACHING and ALWAYS WAS

3.) AS U CAN SEE FROM YOURSELF - GREEK NEW CALENDAR CHRISTIANS ARE FAR AWAY FROM ORTHODOXY

4.) The Holy Fathers HAVE FORBIDDEN INSTRUMENTS for MANY REASONS. The Orthodox Liturgy is SPIRITUAL and SENSUAL.

The Liturgy is an ICON of the heavenly LITURGY of BODILESS HOSTS.

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 1)Ι canceled the first post because I had made a syntax mistake.A thing that you usually tend to do.

2)It is obvious that you can not answer me.

3)Your fanaticism is outstanding...

4)The only truth is that instruments were forbidden because they were reminding the pagan period.

5)In some areas of Greece instruments were never forbidden.

6)Cursing is way better than what you do.

7)Sorry,you got reported

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki:

1.) NO because u cursed and u wanted to hide

2.) LOL - U COULD NOT BRING ANY ARGUMENT AGAINST MY STATEMENTS u only prove THAT I WAS RIGHT

3.) I am not FANATICAL but ORTHODOX - u ARE NOT

4.) Instruments WERE FORBIDDEN BECAUSE the Music of the Church is SPIRITUAL and NOT SENSUAL. Also Jews used instruments - BUT THEY WERE ALSO FORBIDDEN as the HOLY FATHERS SAY

5.) INSTRUMENTS WERE ALWAYS FORBIDDEN BECAUSE THE HOLY FATHERS have forbidden them. Greece can not allow

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki:

6.) CURSING is not GOOD - I posted the TRUTH

7.) I DO NOT FEAR your "REPORTING"

8.) U should fear GOD because ALL MODERNIST AND INNOVATERS are CONDEMNED and CAST OUT FROM THE CHURCH.

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 PALEOIMEROLOGITIS MAN?

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: I AM NOT AN OLD-CALENDARIST!

But the Old Calendar Greek Church is not SO MODERNISED LIKE THE NEW CALEDNAR CHURCH.

Because the Greek NEw Calendar CHURCH IS FULL OF INNOVATION! As I told u 3 TIMES NOW.

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: GREEKS = NOT ORTHODOX ANYMORE!

As u can see form your own posts - greeks are not ORTHODOX ANYMORE. Such silly conclusions and arguments that are DIRECTLY AGAINST THE TRADITION OF THE CHURCH.

The greek New Calendar CHURCH is FULL OF INNOVATION and MODERNISM and u have proven me right.

THANK U.

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 You vile Dark minded poor person...Go burn a witch.Byzantines were not always right...Obviously Christians are far away from Christ.(By the way did Christ forbid instruments?Haha)

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: LOL - U PROTESTANT GREEK!

I was not talking about "Byzantines" - I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOLY FATHERS and HOLY TRADITION.

YES - CHRIST HAS FORBIDDEN INSTRUMENTS THROUGH THE HOLY FATHERS.

U hippie Protestant greek!

U SEE: I WAS RIGHT: NEW CALENDAR GREEKS ARE MODERNISTS AND INNOVATORS.

[AlexBouzouki]

@adamantis4657 U HIPPIE?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Now I understood what kind of person you are and I will not reply to you again.Have a good night and burn many instruments in your dreams.Don't forget to pretend to be a Christian.

YES - CHRIST HAS FORBIDDEN INSTRUMENTS THROUGH THE HOLY FATHERS.

hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH BYE BYE FANATIC LOSER!!!!!

[adamantis4657]

@AlexBouzouki: LOL - now u have lost your mind! LOL - u crazy protestant hippie.

[ROBHUGHES1453]

amazing.