Is The Bible Corrupted 2: Sins Of The Pen (6/10)

[kironde112]

what do you mean christians are finding new manuscripts and updating the bible? listen, ALL YOUR MANUSCRIPTS that existed within the first followers of jesus were all ordered to be burnt and destroyed. the council of niccea in 300yrs with the help of constatine agreed on mathew mark luke and john. so what exactly are you looking for?

[rudeboywaz]

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[MrSKINFLICK]

Nice dressing show here - though not very professional !

[zorin85]

In Misquoting Jesus, Ehrman presents persuasive evidence that the story of the woman taken in adultery (John 7:53-8:12) and the last 12 verses of Mark were not in the original gospels, but added by later scribes.

Furthermore, these examples “represent just two out of thousands of places in which the manuscripts of the New Testament came to be changed by scribes.”

In fact, entire books of the Bible were forged like Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians. (islamreligion(dot)com/article­s/556/)

[LegendaryGhettobilly]

Please synch the sound with the video...

[Jburn3]

These men dont understand what the context of the sin of the pen. the scribes were altering the actual law given in the earlier books and selling it. they were not incorrectly writing the bible itself. Such morons! The law hasnt even been changed and that is what they were trying to do. understand this too. that the bible is not just an account of holy men but also evil. and one more thing. everyone before Christ was not a Christian and under a completely different covenant.

[Surfxeo]

I don't know were you are getting your information from but they are all lies. The current Holy Bible is unaltered from the time of Christ. The oldest fragment found of the New Testament which dates to around 100 AD is identical to the current King James version. The oldest known Quran is dated back to 900 AD and there have been different versions of the Quran only you don't hear about them because the muslims who had them were murdered.

Islam is just a cult that grew out of Christianiity.

[MrSKINFLICK]

@Surfxeo:Independent sciences of history of religions also unveiled that the Koran is a very cheeky copy of the old testament mixed with old Arabian myths+legends.There had been a lot of rivalry+jealousy going on because Mecca already HAD large Jewish+Christian communities. The Jews (who have really a biting humour sometimes) only mocked about Mohammed while the Christians tried to teach him something about the scriptures, so his mostly friendly attitude towards Christians is understandable....

[MrSKINFLICK]

@Surfxeo: The question in itself is IF Mohammed can have written the whole Koran alone - even prominent and serious-to-take Arabic scribes have their doubts...it is obvious for them that also the Koran took a much longer time to develop.

The problem with the four gospels is simply that they were written all in Greek as original language(NOT ARAMAIC OR HEBREW),that inside is a huge amount of hidden pagan Greek mythology (Trinity, Virgin Mary, Incarnation)+we don´t know who the authors were!

[MrSKINFLICK]

@Surfxeo: Equally many don´t know that the Jewish religion after the Babylonian captivity was strongly influenced by the symbolism and the mythology of the Persian Zarathustra-cult and this mythology also became partly important in the new Christian cult in the first century A.D. From the Zarathustra-cult the Jewish scribes took angels,demons,the dualism of the world(good+bad)+life after death(the beyond) -all of which the older Jewish religion before 500 B.C. had hardly any or NO imagination !

[Surfxeo]

@MrSKINFLICK I took in all of your comments and you strike as someone who well educated who is searching for knowledge. You should study the authorized king james bible in detail over many years as I have. I believe the old and new testament to be the word of God. It isn't man made as it would be more obvious and full of errors. The first 5 books have angels and demons in them. The new testament was written before 70 AD as it never mentions once the destruction of Judah and Jerusalem.

[MrSKINFLICK]

@Surfxeo:Nothing to add to below on this page here+i do not wish any opinion exchange about this,for if you state further that you possess the alleged truth about the old+new testament then nothing+nobody will be able to convince you of other views+then i do not intellect or even guess why you would need an exchange of views.

I do also not want any connection to people who are into occultism or weird mythologies+crazy absurd theories that "God writes books".You don´t even want to read or listen!

[Surfxeo]

@MrSKINFLICK "By their word you shall judge them"

That is a hypocritical opionion. Isn't that precisely what you are doing?

You are stating your opinion and "believe" that only you hold the truth.

It seems to me that you are expressing your views based on your belief system. You do it, I do it, everybody does it. Its just human nature.

[TheMaimonides]

The information is very good, but you have junky eyes, stop smucking canabis

[MrSKINFLICK]

@TheMaimonides:Maybe the young man cannot decide between cannabis+religion.That´s why he is so silly to think most scientificly informed Christians don´t know already know in other versions what he spreads here.THIS ALL IS NOTHING NEW+independent science of the history+development of religions can also find out a lot about Islam:E.G.that the Koran arose as a cheeky copy of the bible(old testament)mixed with old Arabian legends+myths+ That it most probably was written long AFTER Mohammed,etc etc

[MrSKINFLICK]

@TheMaimonides: I rather fear that the person speaking in this video needs urgently a fashion consultor !

[messanicgentile]

God asks Muhammad why the Jews come to him for judgement when "they HAVE the Torah in which IS the command of God" [D21]; and the Christians are told to "JUDGE by what God has revealed in it (the Gospel)" [D23

[zakariadonga]

look the god of moammed and messiah son of mary and moses is one is him who create all and is him who sentthe bible and quoran

[Jburn3]

these idiots dont understand that the catholic books that are added are not considered part of the canon of scripture. In other words these are not part of the insprired word of God. Why dont we bring up Muhammad's magnificent birth? Oh wait, this was not recorded. I guess God forgot to document the birth of the last and final prophet. Where are the prophecies of his coming and the fulfillment thereof? Why wasnt he known from birth as the last and final prophet. It is a lie thats why!!!

[imreadyyo26]

@Jburn3 actually his birth is mentioned and documented. and he was known as the last and final messanger. its all in text. u dont even know about islam. thats something that just about every muslim know. lol you know nothing

[Jburn3]

@imreadyyo26 yes the date is mentioned but i am wondering why no one was there to document the coming of the last and greatest prophet. There were many many men awaiting the birth of Jesus because of who he was. Muhammad was not considered a prophet until much later. this is a huge problem in my mind. Why wouldn't God honor him not just as a prophet from birth but the last and greatest. Simple answer. He is false. i have studied more than you think. you just misunderstood what i was saying.

[imreadyyo26]

@Jburn3 the reason why is because the hebrew jews were so racist to arabs. they could not fathom the idea of a prophet coming out of that land. didnt jesus say the first will be last and the last will be first? he was talking about the arabs. noone would except them or muhammad. they knew he was a prophet and it infuriated them. everyone knew this. it wasnt a secret. now you have americans hating muslims because there arabs. you can except prophet from jews who killed many but not arabs?

[CuachicquehRex]

What's the point of this vid, ALL Religions are BS.

[rezasurvival]

you are speaking as if you r god

[Josho4096]

he is speaking as he he did his research. How about you do research and reject/contradict him with facts. Don't be lazy. I mean, he could be wrong or right, but just "saying" he is wrong makes u look like a dumb tool. Disprove his statements... Although I think most religions are a carbon copy of earlier religions with the purpose of controlling the people. Like a mind control mechanism. Look how many times 'gods' have been changed, alterned, etc. in other religions....

[babri62]

There is no god, if there was a god he never let any body corrupted his book..

[lllMONSTERlll]

@babri62 the quran never changed not even a single letter in the Quran been changed for more then 1400 years so i think that there is God

Peace

[babri62]

@lllMONSTERlll why god does not care abut Bible? that is not his book? it is OK with god let his Bible be corrupted?

[IsraTX]

The beauty of it is that Christians DO knowladge about any chance, edition, or corruption of the Bible. The are always trying to find the truth!! Muslims don't admite to any changes on the Koran, and try to silance anyone that tries to find the truth!!!!

[Josho4096]

I don't think I ever met any Christian that admits changes. I don't know any Muslims so I can talk there... but I know many Christians, from Catholics, to Evang. to Jehova's W.  I promise you they would never admit any alteration or corruption to the "WORD" It's this blind, absolute faith that makes them "worthy". Pitty. Sounds more like like mind control than religion. Mind control mechanisms have the same characteristics. Install fear, force obedience, etc. Never is free thought allowed. Hmmm

[Scarious]

"Some Christians say.."

"The Catholic Church refuses to acknowledge these manuscripts" Thank you Brother for making it clear that the Catholic Church has nothing to do with the protestant madness..

Personally I take my guidance from the Holy Spirit, not some American jerk in an ugly leather jacket.. I'm sure you mean well, but stop trying to denounce mad men, they are already mad! Remember, God is LOVE and Hatered is letting someone live in your head rent free..

[Santiaguista09]

As you noted codex alexandinus has the only begotten God in 1 John 18. So too does codex sinaticus. You tried to argue that this was a later addition to make Jesus seem divine but how is the case when it exists in both of these earliest manuscripts? only later latin manuscripts posses the wording son. So again this is a very weak arguemnt. Please do more research before making such silly videos.

[Santiaguista09]

So why do chruch fathers talk about this verse today I beget thee? Because its in the psalms (2:7) and because it is in Acts 13:33 in relation to jesus s resurection not his baptism and is used in Hebrews 1:5 again not in reference to christs baptism but sonship.

[Santiaguista09]

There are also only some far later vulgate manuscripts with this text. And codex Bezae contains no such variant for the same baptism story reported in Mark 1:11 and Mathew 3:17 which both have the traditional wording. So this is a very weak argument based on a variant which only appears in one 5th century manuscript and not in any other gospel accounts which is what we would find if this was such a later alteration as you argue.

[Santiaguista09]

Just as Luke 3:22 reads in Codex Sinaticus and Alexandrinus and the Holy Spirit came down, in a bodily form like a dove, upon him, and a voice came from heaven: Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased

This the earliest manucript of the Bible refutes your argument that it originally said today I beget thee . This adoptionist verse is only found in 1 greek manuscript from the 5th century, that is codex Bezae.

[Santiaguista09]

You can look for yourself since the manuscript is online.

Furthermore some manuscripts have god in timothy 3 :16 due to a mistranslation of ος (who) which was confused with θς an abbreviation for god. This error was not done on purpose as you suggest as these two words are confused by some scribes by their similar forms. Furthermore bear is also found in Hebrews 1:3 in codex sinaticus

[Josho4096]

Besides the points here. Why are all religions a recycled version of previous religions? Even within Christian religion there are recycled features. Everything seems to come down to the adoration of the sun. Period. Let's debate about this because the evidence is so evident. Everything about Jesus, Horus... who was would later become in essence Ra (sun god), Mithra who was not even a sun god till alter when he was associated with it, Apollo... etc. I've done my research... so please resond...

[imreadyyo26]

@Josho4096 and what came before the sun? the sun is not the only thing in the universe. its only the biggest thing man can see and be amazed about. islam doesnt come from a sun god doctrine it is totally unique from all the pagan idolatry. go research.

[Santiaguista09]

This video demonstrates many clear errors and clearly just recycled Bart Ehrmans writings.

Codex Sinaticus is the oldest manuscript not codex Alexandrinus. Codex Sinaticus dates from around 330 AD whilst codex Alexandrinus dates from around 400 to 440 AD. Codex Sinaticus contains Luke 22:19 20 which refutes your argument that this verse appeared in no early manuscripts and was a later invention of the church.

[captaintickle]

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[maugustyniak]

Oh yeah, and muslims don't persecute muslim detractors. Noooo! Of course they don't. And none of them would ever stone a woman for going outside without a burka. Naah. Islam is the religion of peace, we've got the Middle-East as proof.

[girlsfollowme]

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[RuslanRuslan098]

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[sparkfilms7]

his real name is not jesus its yeshua

[AlMUJADDIDmedia]

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[xxx1429xxx16]

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[salwa88]

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[gallowspole2002bd]

Yes, only this "F" word what your Christianity teaches today; yes we already know that!!! Today's Christianity cannot teach something better than that!!! We all know that...

[handydude6]

The earliest leaders of the Catholic church were not christians at all they were the Old Chaldeans, who had mingled the Greek Gods with the Egyptian gods, forming the Roman gods, who changed the bible to fit their style of worship. The communion came from Mithras worship, and they were pissed off that Constantine wanted to include Chritianity in with the Roman Pantheon.

[marvinballard]

I can't beleive you do not see a problem with all the different versions of your bibles and how they are still updated to this day.

[jorsak]

One example of the utter nonsense in this guys post is: "While the modern day Catholic Church refuses to acknowledge these early manuscripts Bible scholars are continually discovering updating the Bible as new manuscripts are found."

WHAT?!?!?!?!? What the heck are you talking about??? There are no "Bible Scholars" continually discovering and updating the Bible. Please give source reference to support such a wacko claim.

[marvinballard]

im a former christian and this is very true. The word "begotten" which appears in JOHN in the KJV is known to be inserted into the text. All other versions have gotten rid of this because it was discovered that it does not appear in any old manuscripts.

[jorsak]

Do you understand that NONE of the words appear in any old manuscripts? Because the old manuscripts are in Greek / Hebrew / and Aramaic?

Consequently, EVERY word you read NOT in one of those languages is a translation. Subsequently, different time periods and different intentions translate the original text using different words. The verse is meant to clearly convey the uniqueness of Jesus birth and human form relationship. That is why many versions say "One and only."

[marvinballard]

Of course the english word is not in the old transcripts. But no translation of the word is either. The word was created to deify christ. Plain and simple. If all the other bibles have taken out, why hasnt the king james?

[jorsak]

All other versions HAVEN'T taken it out (NASB for instance)and the idea that Begotten was inserted to deify Christ is comical at best. "Begotten" is about the furthest idea from deification. It was not "put in" as you say to do anything other than what the original verse states... the completely unique Son of God.

[marvinballard]

i dont have all the translations in front of me , but i do know the scholars admit (christian scholars) that it was inserted and it should not be his was just a small example. Why dont you refute the 100 hundred items they point out.

[jorsak]

no... a small number of people say that it was inserted. The NASB is a GREAT example. It is considered to be one of the most accurate translations word for word to date (and it is recent) and it STILL includes "Begotten." I could go through the myriads of examples that are offered. I just address the major ones or individual comments. I don't have all my life to dedicate to correcting peoples misconceptions.

[marvinballard]

but your initial statement when he said that bibles are constantly being updated, is WHAT!! NKJV is an example. So you wanted an example and you got one. NExt

[jorsak]

Updated means that they are finding something new and including something new. It does not mean used a different word to say the same thing or said "You" instead of "Thou." Your statement does not stand. To illustrate, please show ANY doctrine of Christianity that has been changed due to textual changes. Feel free to use any standard Christian Bible.

Next.

[marvinballard]

I never said anything about doctrine being changed. Stay on topic. Ive said the bible has been revised many many times. Now granted these things might be small but over time they add up. Is that hard to understand.

[jorsak]

Doctrine is what is essential - it is the core beliefs of the faith. NO Christian doctrine (I.E. The deity of Christ.) has been altered.

I do not believe even in small things that there are any changes to the context. John 3:16 is a great example. People read the KJV and believed that "Begotten" was a sexual thing. yet, that is not the context in which it was rendered at all. Now, it is said in modern day language (not 17th century English) and it makes more sense. "One and Only."

[jorsak]

The changing of the translation to "One and only" never altered the doctrine of God's UNIQUE, one and only son, took human form and walked amongst men to be THE sin offering for all mankind.

As the amplified Bible makes clear:

16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten ([a]unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.

[jorsak]

Additionally, please not the dictionary's definition of the word. It is #2. That is communicated in this verse.

#1. To father; sire.

#2. To cause to exist or occur; produce

[jorsak]

WOW! So many falsehoods put forward as "fact." And who is the goof ball that he shows in the video that is a "Christian."

[handydude6]

I think it is good to hear an Islamic attack on the Bible. Many things you say are true. The early writers even changed the name of Yahshua. The Revelation says all this happens in the 4 horsemen. Which is the gospel going out. It starts out White, turns red with blood, because of the persecution to the early christians who were Jews. Turns black because the gospel was hidden away, then turns pale because it became dead.

[jorsak]

Incorrect. The YHWH that is the Lord's name is transliterated as Yahweh, Jehovah, LORD or GOD. The Hebrew language has no vowels. So, your rendering of YHWH is as much a guess as Yahweh is.

[handydude6]

Yahshua is the true name of Jesus.

Some say Yahushua.

The Hebrew letters have no vowels because they include the sound of vowels.

[jorsak]

Forgive me, rereading your question I see I misread. I thought you were implying that Yahweh had been changed.

Never the less, I fail to see how "early writers even changed the name of Yahshua." Jesus is only the English rendering. Yahshua is rendered as either Joshua or Jesus.

[handydude6]

Jesus is the English name from Latin that is Gesus, which sounds nothing like the Greek Iesus. Plus the old Greek had a letter that looked like s but sounded like ua. So the old Greek did sound like Yahshua, kindof. the Ie was pronounced E a small a. The Latin was a deliberate mocking of the name. Ge being the god Geia and the sus the god Zeus. But in actual sound it meant earth pig. So that the people would be eating pig when they do the communion.

[jorsak]

I have to disagree. The entire New Testament was written in "Koiné" or common Greek, but as the gospel spread into areas where Greek was not spoken, missionaries made translations in other languages such as Coptic, Slavic, and Latin. By the end of the second century many different Latin versions were in circulation.

[handydude6]

At the Council of Nicaea 325 ad, Constantine had all the Christian Bishops come with their books to decide which books were to be recognized. The books were decided, and all the rest were burned. That is why we only have Greek original manuscripts.

[jorsak]

In 382 Jerome translated a standardized Latin Bible called the "Vulgate," or common Bible. The Latin Bible transliterated the Greek name of Jesus by bringing across all of the Greek sounds in his name. His name was written as "IESUS."

[handydude6]

Jerome was responisble for making Mary into a God, and adopting the ancient Chaldean practice of having a Mother of God. The Vulgate makes Jesus less than God, so that the Fathers, Bishops can be Gods. Also Yahshua is a Hebrew name, and the Catholics always hated the Hebrews, because they would not bow down to the Pontifex Maximus

[jorsak]

My friend, I don't know where you are getting your information but NONE of what you said is church history.

[jorsak]

The Latin spelling differed from the Greek because the two alphabets are not identical. The Latin pronunciation however was still identical to the Greek "ee-ay-soos."

Theodosus made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire in 391. Jerome's Latin Vulgate soon became the undeclared "official" text of the Roman Church.

Subsequently, Jerome (A church Father) was not intending to mock Christianity or communion.

[handydude6]

I would guess it was Paul who changed the name of Yahshua, he liked to change lots of things that Yahshua said as doctrine. Such as keeping the commandments, taking money for preaching, setting up leadership in churches, faith is a free gift says Paul, Jesus said count the cost before following Him. Plus Paul was the one who introduces Mithras practice of communion.

[jorsak]

You may guess at what you like but the response I gave shows the invalidity of your argument "The Latin was a deliberate mocking of the name. Ge being the god Geia and the sus the god Zeus. But in actual sound it meant earth pig."

[TheTrueJudgement]

The Syriac Peshitta Bible is written in Aramaic. Aramaic was the mother language of Jesus. In this Bible, the name of Jesus is Eesho. So this would be the closest to the original.

[handydude6]

Yahshua's name comes from the second in command after Moses. It was a very common name at the time of Yahshua. Like John or David is quite common today. But he did not have an Aramaic name. Yahshua exhults the name of Yah, not Ie or Ee or Ge or Je.

[23sfrb]

i dont believe in bible but i believe in jesus pbuh

[kingcriz89]

So? Both are fake.

Quaran and the bible. Because all religion is built upon a huge lie made thousands of years ago.

All i can say at least the bible and christianity does not preach hate. (or in no way can be interpreted into advocating violence)

be budhists its so much more simple.

and believable.

[handydude6]

Buddah says that we can all be gods. Yahweh condemmed Adam and Eve to death for seeking that lie.

[dinosommese]

i hope you realize that you aren't really going to change many minds, especially of those who are firm in their foundation or stubborn. i also realize i won't change your mind, so there is no reason for me to go on. i love you all, and mean that. i hope to meet you in real life someday, though i realize how unlikely that is.

[dinosommese]

i really don't mean to offend, but the "pagan" didn't have the texts that the Christian's had, and might not have known as deeply what they considered truth. i wrote on a different one of your videos wanting to apologize for christian's, but know that i can't.

[cairsuckit2]

In the Sunnah it says that both men and women should grow out their beards. It also says you should grow out your pubes. When they become long and unwieldy, it is appropriate to braid them in dreadlocks. The Sunnah also states you should grow out your ass hairs. Same braiding technique can be used.

Allah is a Mzghabah.

[ChurchBandit]

I knew the King James Boys did a job on the 1611 English translation. But WOW! This goes back 2/t early Roman Church of the late 1st century. AMAZING!

[REspinosa3]

why are you judgeing the bible, all works have errors because the hand that wrote the works where human, cant you just tolerate the work and stop hateing?

[filistin4life]

The Quran has no errors, people have alleged errors but they have been refuted easily.

[loveislamictrueth]

the qur'an has NO errors at all non muslims have said there must be but so far haven't found one which they didnt take diliberatly out of context. why dont you try to find one contradiction, we put these videos out because of attacks from christians.

[Saladdin65]

Where in heaven do we hate my friend?

[WinterHaven]

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[asmaa19]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

ماشـاء الله تبـارك الله

Good job my brother, keep going!

I love your videos

[aminawadud]

hahaha....very funny...well,to those who get offended by this video..get out from here...nuff said

[madina55]

Excelent little Ahmed Deedat! You know what i mean by saying "little Ahmed Deedate right"? Hhehehehe

[stand4truth]

Then swow us the original manuscript of the Koran. Why did your peadophile pirates henchmen burn certain of the manuscripts. If you can prove the bible as being corrupt then produce the correct one. Otherwise how can you tell the scriptures are false. Finally prove the words of YESHUA are a lie.

[INTJ22]

Why don't you attempt to refute all of the fulfilled prophecies in the Bible instead of fiddling with the logistics of how the Bible came about? If the Bible clearly reveals the true God wouldn't it make your whole argument a moot point?

Read "A Skeptic's Search for God" by Ralph O. Muncaster for a look into how it would be statistically impossible for the prophecies in the Bible to have been fulfilled coincidentally.

[bloodspila2]

jazak Allah khair. 5 stars.

[Nosherwan13]

you couldn't get much clearler than this..=)

jazak allah khair

[dyllydally]

Why do you dress like someone from the seventh century?

[DeedatRules]

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[shamraiz]

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[dyllydally]

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[IslamIs1st]

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[cactus33]

Excellent!!

[jarhood2007]

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[nuttyBritproductions]

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[MoslimKid]

5 stars.

[NudgeFellen]

I'd just like to correct one spot: Origen lived from 185-254 AD, which is the 2nd & 3rd Centuries. It's an honest mistake and not by negligence, I screw up centuries all the time too :). Good work guys.

[mujtahid2006]

your right, thanks, I'mention it on the description section.

[ZeriqViz]

like bible games.. I like watching the christians playing it..

[TheArabianMuslim]

your videos are perfect so keep up the good work