if i were old enough to vote in 2008, i would have voted for this tool. But up to just a few weeks ago, i started to FUCKING DESPISE this short armed cretin.
The territories of Colonial were almost certainly founded on "Christian" principles if you consider genocide of natives (Num. 31:6-18), killing witches (Ex. 22:18), and slavery (1 Peter: 18-21). However our founding fathers saw through the evil of religion - namely Christianity - and created a governing document (The Constitution) which was both implicitly and explicitly anti-religious. The very rejection of the God appointed monarchy was an evident step in the free thought direction.
July 4, 2011, John McCain in my view is a good man and I wish he could have been our U.S.A. President instead of that very WRONG man Barack H. Obama. People did not listen to their Conscience. And I truly believe that this time in 2012 The Right man for the President's office is Mitt Romney.... This Nation is a Judeo=Christian Nation. And their is nothing wrong with The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints.
@MASTER105175 Have you read the Book of Mormon? This book says the native Americans are descended from lost tribes of Israel who for their sins against God were cursed with dark skin. It also states that Jesus Christ visited these people in prehistoric America. Among the most bizarre beliefs expressed by their prophets is the belief that God had sex with Mary to impregnate her. Those are the kinds of things a president should believe? But belief that we came from Apes, that's just plain crazy!
A respectable portion of our founding fathers believed in the Plurality of Worlds, separation of faith and ethic, and were opposed to the involvement of European worldviews in American policy because European sholars and professors were more likely to ascribe to Judeo-Christian conviction than secular logic. This wasn't to say that the faithful were biased or unfavorable as upstanding citizens or politicians; rather it was to accept that America would someday not adhere to Christian ideology.
Fucking sell-out, traitor, and America hater. Send the piece of shit to Israel; it'd be worth the cost to taxpayers to have him gone. I can't believe the GOP actually nominated this fucking maggot. The Constitution and individual rights; love them or get the hell out. Learn some fucking history while while you're in Judeo too.
@BillofRightsBrutus Wow you're a real prick going to hell. John is far greater of a man than you. LMAO at the thought of you saying that in front of him.
@SCJohnson77 Hilarious. America is fucked up because of religion, from the slaughter of the indigenous to witch burning to practically every war, police action, quasi war, and otherwise America has ever been a part of. Sure he was a war hero but he has gotten his mileage and a sweet fucking life out of it too. People are starving in this country and not only theirs, but their descendants' futures, are fucked up in case you hadn't noticed. 14 trillion in debt owned by the Chinese and others.
@SCJohnson77 I suppose people like you think the Halliburtons, Blackwaters, and otherwise haven't made enough money and America should be protecting the promised land for Israel and constantly stirring the shit to keep instability in the Middle east as the only that profit are Israel and those associated with the oil game. Maybe you should ponder heaven doesn't exist and living like shit until the maggots eat you ain't as cracked up as the powers that be, livin fat, would have you think it is.
Although Thomas Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."
Wow.....McCain basically believes that Christianity and Mormonism is superior to and better than Islam.
McCain would vote /campaign for an idiot who claimed Christianity or Mormonism over a great Muslim candidate who'd actually be the obvious best president (or whatever office is up for election).
What McCain FAILS to mention/realize is that the founding fathers were also Mason....who ALL studied the Holy Qur'àn. A hidden fact...
Judeo-Christian? Spare me! They hold no monopoly on values.
Unfortunately our politicians are still not honoring that concept. That's why I'm disappointed in Obama for continuing Bush's faith based programs instead of doing the right thing by abolishing them. Tax payer dollars should not be used to support religious programs. I'm sure the majority of Christians would object their tax money going towards paying for other religious beliefs.
it isn't.. the pilgrims were not american they were english. the revolution and our founding fathers were based in french philosophy from the enlightenment age. and believed in a seperation of church and state. sometimes. like thomas paine. jefferson, and ben franklin. outrightly disliked christianity and religion.
It's so sad that "America" is founded on a mythological book. However Thomas Jefferson said different. Because "Thomas Jefferson" was a rational thinker. and not a delusional thinker. who let a book of myths control his brain.
The Puritan Pilgrims who were the first colonists were PROTESTANTS.
America was founded on SLAVERY and COLONIAL EMPIRIALISM. The Massachusetts Bay Company was colonial merchant corporation founded for the sole purpose of exploiting African slaves and natural resources of New England colonies.
BTW - Christian-Judeo not "judo". Perhaps remedial literacy classes and history classes in early American history would help improve your profoundly misinformed opinions.
Dude, it is Judeo, not Judo. Judo is a martial art.
The settlers were Christian, including the Puritans who killed Indians, Quakers and Witches in the name of religion. Our nation was NOT founded by the first settlers.
Our Constitution was based on the ideas of "The Enlightenment", and most of out founders were "Deist". If you claim to be a citizen of the U.S., Please Google both of those words and study what you find.
What is his faith anyway? For 200 years, the Constitution has been clear -- "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Everyone has their a right to their what they believe. What gives anyone the right to judge what one person believes. Just listening to someone doesn't mean you have to agree. What you believe today may change as you grow and learn. This is America thank God we still have the rights.
McCain really doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, he says he would welcome a Muslim for candidacy only minutes after specifically claiming that it is necessary for a U.S president to continue judo-Christian traditions.
Christianity is the religion of an occupying force. An archaic relic of a foreign culture, kept alive and spread over the earth only by force of bloody conquest and institutional, traditional indoctrination. A religion of fear and shame, glorified suffering and death, that conveniently serves the ruling class to pacify its subjects and sanctify its actions.
The Constitution of the United States clearly states the separation of church and state. The founding fathers did that for the express purpose that no person could be in any way penalized for his/her belief system. That's why the pilgrims came over here for pity's sake! Why doesn't anybody get that?
what spiritual values are we adhering to when we send troops to war? is it "love thy neighbour"? is it "turn the other cheek"? I know it must be "thou shalt not kill" no thats not right it must be " love one another as I have loved you" but that would mean we would have to sacrifice all we have including our lives for the benefit of our foreign neighbours.Can someone find me the bit where Jesus says its ok to kill people if theres oil involved?
McCain dumped his wife and three kids to run off with a home wrecker. He took money from Charles Keating to do political favors. He voted for torture. He voted against benefits for our war heroes. He lied about his own religion affiliation. Want more???
McCain dumped his wife and three kids to run off with a home wrecker. He took money from Charles Keating to do political favors. He voted for torture. He voted against benefits for our war heroes. He lied about his own religion affiliation. Want more???
Yes, we should embrace core values like killing people who didn't attack us, staying in their countries for 100 years, and starting more wars. We should worship the great god, Government, sacrifice our money liberties and very lives to it. Send your tithes and offerings to the five sided temple in DC! Send your sacrifices to the local Marine recruiting station! Obey our god's every dictate! Now, turn in your hymnals to hymn number 66, and join in as the organist plays "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran".
Agreed, surrendering critical thinking and adhering to blind loyalty to dogma & anthropomorphic divinities is the recipe for atrocities in the name of god(life) and country(humanity).
Zealots, nationalists, racists & sexists don't understand why we are here and need a superior or inferior to placate their egos.
And if its someone who killed 100million people and was an atheist, thats completely different to someone who killed 100million people in the name of atheism.
Greetings from the Ronald McDonald Brigade!Beliefnet and Tarotdotcom promote occult stereotypes which are bad for game players! Tarot cards were made for no other purpose than card game playing. Beliefnet should tell the whole truth about tarot cards!
I don't think it matters what faith or religion the president is as long as he doesn't bring his religion into his job. Religion should NOT be a factor at ALL in this presidential race because it shouldn't matter! This country was founded on the principle that everyone should be able to worship whoever however they want. Church and state should ALWAYS be seperate! Anything else is bound to encroach on someone's beliefs! Unfortunately it seems like the two are getting closer together = bad news
When the nation is predominantly Christian and they pray for their President to have both wisdom and courage, then the best channel for the Almighty is to have a President who is a Christian.
If Romney's religion "absolutely shouldn't" be a disqualifying factor, then a muslim's religion shouldn't be a disqualifying factor either. Furthermore, if religion can't disqualify, then it shouldn't qualify either. To say that only people of Judeo-Christian heritage have character is retarded. America was founded on ENLIGHTENMENT values. We need a president who protects and defends the constitution and citizens' safety. Religious heritage issues are for individuals to tackle, not governments.
It would be great to have another Atheist president. Wouldn't that be a big F*** you to the terrorists. Deists and agnostics have made the best presidents.
I guess I was making the point that everyone should have freedom of choice whatever their religious beliefs, and I do believe that individual liberty must at all costs be protected. However, this does not change the historical fact that America was founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. But obviously that simply can't be the case because I'm a "closed minded deluded yahoo."
Article 11, US Treaty with Tripoli, the haste which the article was ratified & signed & the absolute wording of "in any sense". No mention of anything religious besides no law respecting the establishment, but none to restrict the free exercise of, within the Constitution. Our Declaration suggests only an ambiguous Creator and Nature's God. Nor are any values only found within Judeo-Christian faith presented. All are intrinsic of all society.
With all due respect I think you need to read some of my earlier posts to clarify what I mean by, "Founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles." (I was primarily referring to some of the founding fathers and their intent.)
No you were making the assertion that America was founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. Most founders were Deists in their own words and any Christians knew enough to preclude their own beliefs with impunity.
Our money held E Pluribus Unum until 1956, our pledge made no mention until 1954, no one but brazen officials suggest such foundations. Even swearing in was considered an affirmation for purposes of religious tolerance and no mention is made of God or a Bible.
Like I said, go back and read ALL of my posts on this subject. Not ALL the founders were Deists, and those who wrote the constitution were also not all deists.
Well of those I see one errant suggestion the inscription on money, the assertion that we are a Judeo-Christian nation a couple of times, and a quote from John Jay from a private letter, though he opposed Catholics gaining seats of prominence and was obviously not someone to look towards for religious tolerance. We have a strong history, none contend this, nor contend Christians among the founders. Your contention is a Judeo-Christian foundation, you show none. I show the stark contrast thereof.
Suggest any one thing that does not relate to the McCarthy era witch-hunts that we are founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. We have a strong history, no one will deny, and it has only strengthened recently which has been damning to the careers of politicians since the 1950's and our world relations, but a foundation? The notion is absurd and I would say Un-American.
No, as the discussion is far too important to leave it as two groups who merely step away. That 'foundation' is used for institutional religion and oppression through social exile. This is no personal opinion such as interpretation of a painting, this is the presentation of the facts and you show nothing.
The Founding Fathers built a WALL between politics and religion. America was found on the greatest principles precisely for the very reason that for the first time the government took religion out of politics. When they constantly mention "Christian principles," those principles are found within any sane human being. They are universal principles, our innate morality. Just because some are found in the Bible doesn't mean that they are derived from Christian teachings. To be continued...
John McCain is doing what alot of thiests do. They try dance around the issue that thier beliefs are not as strange as all other religions. You cant have respect for another religion and therefor that persons morality if you think thier religion is wrong.
I am so sick of hearing politicians parrot this whole "America was founded on Christian principles" bucket of crap. Neither God NOR Jesus is even mentioned in the constitution. The "founding fathers" weren't even Christians; they were deists. We are a SECULAR nation, not a Christian one!
Can you please explain to me why you then have "In God We Trust" printed on all your dollar bills if America was a purely secular nation not built on Christian principles..?
"In God We Trust" was printed on the dollar bill in the early 1950s by a bunch of christian fundamentalist charlatans and quacks who have distorted American history and misinterpreted our constitution. The British have Darwin's picture on the pound, whereas we Americans have the words "In God We Trust" on the dollar bill, and we fool ourselves by pretending that we are a secular nation. SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!
John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and one of the three men most responsible for the writing of the Constitution declared:
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is their duty-as well as privilege and interest- of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." Still sounds like the Founding Fathers knew this was a Christian nation.
Perhaps reading a little bit of Thomas Jefferson might clear up this misconception. The Founding Fathers of this country were deists, not Christians. Above all, secularists who believed that there must be a wall between the church and the state. There is a fine distinction. If people like you keep up this attitude, it is only a matter of time before we become the Christian Republic of the United States very much like the Islamic Republic of Iran.
It means that we will never agree on this subject, so not much point in continuing the discussion. Therefore we both agree to disagree on the fact that America was founded on Christian principles. Not every founding father had to be a Christian for America to have been founded and based primarily on Christian principles.
If the Founding Fathers had referred to the Bible when writing the Constitution, we would have to throw people in jail for "coveting their neighbour's wife." We would have to throw in jail anyone who worships a god other than Yahweh "for [he] is a jealous god."
no cause you're a close minded deluded yahoo zudabeck. 'the wall' was built to protect the secular state from the encroachments of religion, so you guys wouldn't be able to impose your delusional shit on some thinking people.
Crazy religious nutt! I'd rather vote for an athiest who values life and refuses war over a crazy idiot like Bush who believed God spoke to him about Iraq?!
I wonder how his foot taste. That should be a question for his next debate. Of course, I'm rooting for Joe Biden...all of our candidates have made statements which they meant as innocent, but they didn't come out that way. McCain's statement here is much worse though. He means it, it's not just a slip.
While i tend to agree with you on the voting part, this country's already been sold, it's owned by corporate america, the jobs have been sent overseas, or somehow worked into the prison labor system, our education and healthcare systems are a joke, by GLOBAL standards...and the populace is culled by HMO's and or pharmaceutical companies who happen to be bed-buddies with a lot of politicians, who also court the military-industrial complex.
My God, this man wants to sell his soul for the White House, and clearly there are no buyers. Personally, I wouldn't pick it up for a quarter at a swap meet, to use as a door stop, I just wish he would recognize what a loser he is, and go away.
I think an atheist president would be the best president we ever had, assuming its not the amazing atheist (he would suck), but this, my religion is better than yours hahahahaha, we dont need that in a president. An atheists tend to be very rational, and if one were to run, that i agreed with (like Obama), I would vote for him, even though he wouldnt stand a chance.
i agree, sucks you're getting a bunch of thumbs down though, i suppose the word Atheist is enough to piss off religious people, let alone saying Religion + Politics = Bad. I wonder how many thumbs down i will get for that? :P
On another note, John McCain says in this video that America was founded as a Christian nation, which is a common misunderstanding among Americans. I won't go into detail about it, but with a little research you would find that the founding fathers were in fact against "one nation under God".
Now, keeping in mind the Constitution of the United States is designed for freedom of any religion, it would only make sense that an agnostic president would be capable of upholding this segment better than anyone who firmly believes in something or lack of something could do.
To paraphrase Wikipedia, "Separation of Church and State" is a political and legal doctrine (derived from the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) which states that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate from and independent of one another. The term refers to the combination of 2 principles: secularity of government and freedom of religious exercise.
I mean srsly, who would you rather vote for, someone who was sincere and agnostic, or someone who makes sure to invoke God and Jesus every 2 minutes to manipulate religious voters? Who is being fake? What does this say about their character?
bah, you don't have to be religious (or any specific religion) to be of "good character" and you can be religious and be of bad character. I think it would be striking if someone came out and said, no I'm an atheist but I'd be a good president.
They say the bible is wrong (twisted by those vampire jews they talk about), jesus is not the son of God.
Now this doesn't take away from the fact that our government is using the predictably stupid and aggressive muslims as a patsy in their staged terror attacks used to create a police state. That is definitely a no brainer. Like using communists and mafia with JFK's killing.
Damn right, this country was founded on Christian principles and teachings. Only you God-less, abortionist, cowardly little liberals have a problem with Christianity.
too bad the fore-fathers stressed that the church be completely separate from the state, religion has no place in polictics (it will never happen) but it clouds judgement, and keeps people from being rationa. like yourself it sounds like you have no clue about history, especailly your own countrys. or else you'd know better
Here I go again, wasting my breath. Let me guess, public school education? The country and the Constitution were in fact founded on Christian presuppositions. Seperation of Church and state is mentioned only in a private letter from Jefferson to a Baptist? pastor to assure him there would be no state endorsed denomination like the Church of England. It does and never meant that the states civil morality should or could be founded on the humanism you have been brainwashed by.
well yeah public school education..in canada keep in mind, which trumps the american education system which is a joke by the way..this man and people like him stand to keep you the way you are right now.. uninformed. but im not fighting over youtube forums...have a nice life in your police state
Yet they decided to print "In God We Trust" on our money. Furthermore, whether you want to accept it or not, Christians make up the vast number of Americans. Athiests and other religions are in the minority. Therefore we should have a President who represents the majority of the people, rather than a tiny few.
idiot...if we had a president who represented the majority of anything, John Kerry would have won. Your argument is nothing but might makes right. You want demographic majority, wouldn't that make the next president female? Maybe hispanic? And they decided to adopt in god we trust as the national motto in 1956.
The founding fathers also knew a lot more about epistemology than you. Some even understood that universal, invarant, abstract entities like laws of logic can only exist in a universe where a personal, sovereign God can sustain them. Your precious judgement and rationality is totally subjective and arbitrary when divorced from the Biblical worldview that made America great.
He is whoring himself to a major demographic of voters. The Christian vote has immense power in elections, he is going after it by any means necessary. Could he be a little bit more smoothe, and clever in his manner of appealing to them? Yes. Does he seem sincere at all? Not to me. If nothing more, it should comfort those voters that he is partial enough to their influence to let it effect his political stances. I do see it bothering them that he gives it a bit of a bad image perhaps.
The founding fathers were deists, pantheists and atheists - this idea that this country was founded on judeo-christian beliefs is a neoconservative claim that has no grounding in the historical record.
Anyone who thinks that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values could not receive my vote, as they have absolutely no understanding of American history. That's one thing that seems somewhat important to be president... a knowledge of American history.
If the fundamentalist would not be able to keep the beliefs out of the public sphere, most non-fundie christians would avoid him too. And if they were able to keep from passing pro-jesus legislation, people would support him. Some atheists support Ron Paul (fundamentalist christian) So no, it isn't bigotry to not support someone who would violate your constitution
I'm just studying the Constitution in my American History class at school.Its funny how McCain says the nation was founded on the principles of Christianity, however, the first amendment in the bill of rights is about Religious and Political Freedom, saying that citizens of the US have the right to exercise belief in whichever religion they want.
Europeans (especially English Puritans) immigrated to the US to escape religious persucution. So where does he get this information that the US was founded on Christian Principles?
This guy has become such an ass kissing, yes man. "I believe in evolution...oh wait, I'm the only one raising my hand in this debate? Well, I do see the hand of god in everything...yeah, that sounds good." How about standing up & saying that a president's religion has NO bearing on whether or not he or she can do the job.
What religion should the president be?? WTF kind of question is that? The answer is obvious: NONE. That is what I expect.
Read the real history to find that the nation was not built on xtian values-quit reading the "altered acceptable history" you fool, McCain. You don't have to be religious or spiritual to do what is right. Seems to me that the idiots in the main brain station of the US have forgotten that in their race to try bending the world to "US-ism". Downgrade.
How in the hell have all you idiots consolidated your stupidity? There is nothing wrong with being a believer in Christ! Jesus wouldn't force Himself on anyone. People do bad things in the name of any religion. Conservatives and liberals are the most closed minded folks I've ever met.
That is a COMMANDMENT NOT a statement. In all of those refrences it was done because of the OTHER commant to the Isrealites to PURGE(to get rid of) ALL the evil in the land.
You were only looking at one part of the verse-look at the whole verse/chapter next time plz.
it's his Opinion.. would you guys prefer him telling a lie? I mean sure he can come and tell you any non-Christian can make a good president... But that would be somethng he's saying to make you feel better and to get you to vote for him.. Think About it.. and Leave him alone!
if i were old enough to vote in 2008, i would have voted for this tool. But up to just a few weeks ago, i started to FUCKING DESPISE this short armed cretin.
samuriguy909 1 month ago
1:32 Well I admire islam *ehhhhh -_-* that was a lot of hesitation
samuriguy909 1 month ago
Forgot to put America in Colonial America below.
Our founding fathers were not Christians !
freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
cmfernandez9283 3 months ago
The territories of Colonial were almost certainly founded on "Christian" principles if you consider genocide of natives (Num. 31:6-18), killing witches (Ex. 22:18), and slavery (1 Peter: 18-21). However our founding fathers saw through the evil of religion - namely Christianity - and created a governing document (The Constitution) which was both implicitly and explicitly anti-religious. The very rejection of the God appointed monarchy was an evident step in the free thought direction.
cmfernandez9283 3 months ago
July 4, 2011, John McCain in my view is a good man and I wish he could have been our U.S.A. President instead of that very WRONG man Barack H. Obama. People did not listen to their Conscience. And I truly believe that this time in 2012 The Right man for the President's office is Mitt Romney.... This Nation is a Judeo=Christian Nation. And their is nothing wrong with The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints.
MASTER105175 6 months ago
@MASTER105175 Have you read the Book of Mormon? This book says the native Americans are descended from lost tribes of Israel who for their sins against God were cursed with dark skin. It also states that Jesus Christ visited these people in prehistoric America. Among the most bizarre beliefs expressed by their prophets is the belief that God had sex with Mary to impregnate her. Those are the kinds of things a president should believe? But belief that we came from Apes, that's just plain crazy!
cmfernandez9283 3 months ago
A respectable portion of our founding fathers believed in the Plurality of Worlds, separation of faith and ethic, and were opposed to the involvement of European worldviews in American policy because European sholars and professors were more likely to ascribe to Judeo-Christian conviction than secular logic. This wasn't to say that the faithful were biased or unfavorable as upstanding citizens or politicians; rather it was to accept that America would someday not adhere to Christian ideology.
bassawash1 7 months ago
1:30 is priceless: "I admire the... the, uh... Islam" followed by the embarrassed smile & twitchy little headshake. Body language speaks the truth.
buddhablazin 10 months ago
@buddhablazin lol that was hilarious
samuriguy909 1 month ago
What a short armed fucking douche bag!
kevincindy 1 year ago
Fucking sell-out, traitor, and America hater. Send the piece of shit to Israel; it'd be worth the cost to taxpayers to have him gone. I can't believe the GOP actually nominated this fucking maggot. The Constitution and individual rights; love them or get the hell out. Learn some fucking history while while you're in Judeo too.
BillofRightsBrutus 1 year ago
@BillofRightsBrutus Wow you're a real prick going to hell. John is far greater of a man than you. LMAO at the thought of you saying that in front of him.
SCJohnson77 8 months ago
@SCJohnson77 Hilarious. America is fucked up because of religion, from the slaughter of the indigenous to witch burning to practically every war, police action, quasi war, and otherwise America has ever been a part of. Sure he was a war hero but he has gotten his mileage and a sweet fucking life out of it too. People are starving in this country and not only theirs, but their descendants' futures, are fucked up in case you hadn't noticed. 14 trillion in debt owned by the Chinese and others.
BillofRightsBrutus 7 months ago
@SCJohnson77 I suppose people like you think the Halliburtons, Blackwaters, and otherwise haven't made enough money and America should be protecting the promised land for Israel and constantly stirring the shit to keep instability in the Middle east as the only that profit are Israel and those associated with the oil game. Maybe you should ponder heaven doesn't exist and living like shit until the maggots eat you ain't as cracked up as the powers that be, livin fat, would have you think it is.
BillofRightsBrutus 7 months ago
@SCJohnson77 Now go eat some pie or something you candy mouthed cunt ass bitch motherfucker.
BillofRightsBrutus 7 months ago
in all seriousness and from the bottom of my heart, fuck you mccain !
attilatheturkmd 1 year ago
Who cares about policies? I'm just voting for which ever one goes to church the most.
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Mcain is such a fucking tool.
Averagegamer100 1 year ago
He does have 1 point. Certain people have defiled the name of Islam. I still respect the people of the faith who deserve it.
RastafariPoet 2 years ago
I can't think of anybody in the Republican party, past or present, as dishonable as John McShit.
YOUcanLEARNsomething 2 years ago
How about all of them? All politics.
RastafariPoet 2 years ago
This guy might be baptized but he doesn't know anything about how to be a true christian.
RAWRmike 2 years ago
Although Thomas Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
RSrunner88 2 years ago
Wow.....McCain basically believes that Christianity and Mormonism is superior to and better than Islam.
McCain would vote /campaign for an idiot who claimed Christianity or Mormonism over a great Muslim candidate who'd actually be the obvious best president (or whatever office is up for election).
What McCain FAILS to mention/realize is that the founding fathers were also Mason....who ALL studied the Holy Qur'àn. A hidden fact...
Judeo-Christian? Spare me! They hold no monopoly on values.
DeucePrez 2 years ago
man I despise John McCain,
nordick0beauty 2 years ago
Religion should have been kept out of the presidential race.
nogogma 2 years ago 5
Separation of church and state. I fully agree.
SweetPercs 2 years ago
Unfortunately our politicians are still not honoring that concept. That's why I'm disappointed in Obama for continuing Bush's faith based programs instead of doing the right thing by abolishing them. Tax payer dollars should not be used to support religious programs. I'm sure the majority of Christians would object their tax money going towards paying for other religious beliefs.
nogogma 2 years ago
it isn't.. the pilgrims were not american they were english. the revolution and our founding fathers were based in french philosophy from the enlightenment age. and believed in a seperation of church and state. sometimes. like thomas paine. jefferson, and ben franklin. outrightly disliked christianity and religion.
Chrisravenna 2 years ago
It's so sad that "America" is founded on a mythological book. However Thomas Jefferson said different. Because "Thomas Jefferson" was a rational thinker. and not a delusional thinker. who let a book of myths control his brain.
MTKillaTheKing 2 years ago
Glad I didn't vote for him.
OuroborosChoked 3 years ago
I agreed with McCain on the last part, about Mitt Romney. We were electing a president, not a pastor. Romney would have made a good candidate.
ricky0317 3 years ago
historiacal ignorance personified.
this country was founded on diestic pricipals only, and specifically stated by thomas jefferson as to NOT being a judeo-christian nation.
Kiasyd117 3 years ago 9
Wow, what a convoluted answer.
Sad, and racist...
vikingaprinsessan 3 years ago 6
yes corrupted by Satan and Mohammed The False Prophet before mohammed they worshiped many God's in ancient mecca.
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
America was founded on Christian-judo belief's and foundings and the dominant and most respected religion Catholics.
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
The Puritan Pilgrims who were the first colonists were PROTESTANTS.
America was founded on SLAVERY and COLONIAL EMPIRIALISM. The Massachusetts Bay Company was colonial merchant corporation founded for the sole purpose of exploiting African slaves and natural resources of New England colonies.
BTW - Christian-Judeo not "judo". Perhaps remedial literacy classes and history classes in early American history would help improve your profoundly misinformed opinions.
God Bless.
grailmaiden 3 years ago 3
I did great in American history, literacy class's
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
Dude, it is Judeo, not Judo. Judo is a martial art.
The settlers were Christian, including the Puritans who killed Indians, Quakers and Witches in the name of religion. Our nation was NOT founded by the first settlers.
Our Constitution was based on the ideas of "The Enlightenment", and most of out founders were "Deist". If you claim to be a citizen of the U.S., Please Google both of those words and study what you find.
realreligion 3 years ago
I was born and raised in the USA and yes Jefferson was a Deist yet not a thiest...
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago 2
What is his faith anyway? For 200 years, the Constitution has been clear -- "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
lovesmyway 3 years ago 2
hope1437
Everyone has their a right to their what they believe. What gives anyone the right to judge what one person believes. Just listening to someone doesn't mean you have to agree. What you believe today may change as you grow and learn. This is America thank God we still have the rights.
hope1437 3 years ago
McCain really doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, he says he would welcome a Muslim for candidacy only minutes after specifically claiming that it is necessary for a U.S president to continue judo-Christian traditions.
moodini99 3 years ago
fuck this beleif net shit!!!!!!
sinoe6996 3 years ago
wow. he didnt contradict himself there did he
malcolmjacobson 3 years ago
american politicians are the biggest hypocrites, how can they say terrorism is wrong when there trying to do the the same things in the middle east.
gd84 3 years ago 3
damn rednecks from the south voteing for McCain!!!
jesus they got bush now they want another moron!!!!
jon3308 3 years ago
Christianity is the religion of an occupying force. An archaic relic of a foreign culture, kept alive and spread over the earth only by force of bloody conquest and institutional, traditional indoctrination. A religion of fear and shame, glorified suffering and death, that conveniently serves the ruling class to pacify its subjects and sanctify its actions.
delibertad 3 years ago
You speak of false Christians.
antimantium 3 years ago
The Constitution of the United States clearly states the separation of church and state. The founding fathers did that for the express purpose that no person could be in any way penalized for his/her belief system. That's why the pilgrims came over here for pity's sake! Why doesn't anybody get that?
patski2001 3 years ago 2
what an insane idiot
beauroland 3 years ago
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Mcain is our only hope to bring jesus back to our great land! Down with the smart ass black devil.
Its monkey verses man this year and we all know who is a better christian! Not a monkey
Chadhead 3 years ago
what spiritual values are we adhering to when we send troops to war? is it "love thy neighbour"? is it "turn the other cheek"? I know it must be "thou shalt not kill" no thats not right it must be " love one another as I have loved you" but that would mean we would have to sacrifice all we have including our lives for the benefit of our foreign neighbours.Can someone find me the bit where Jesus says its ok to kill people if theres oil involved?
eilidha 3 years ago 3
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Pure evil and an idiot? Obama is a man with terrorist ties and no experience. Show me what evil you see in McCain and not in Obama.
GodsWildfire 3 years ago
McCain dumped his wife and three kids to run off with a home wrecker. He took money from Charles Keating to do political favors. He voted for torture. He voted against benefits for our war heroes. He lied about his own religion affiliation. Want more???
TheDecidicator 3 years ago
McCain dumped his wife and three kids to run off with a home wrecker. He took money from Charles Keating to do political favors. He voted for torture. He voted against benefits for our war heroes. He lied about his own religion affiliation. Want more???
TheDecidicator 3 years ago
mccain is an idiot
laziestslacker 3 years ago 2
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lol i'd leave the country if a muslim became president. The freaking muslims are trying to outlaw christianity through the un lol.
Gutcheckcoming 3 years ago
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Adolf Hitler
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
Adolf Hitler
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
Adolf Hitler
CadenRolland 3 years ago 16
@CadenRolland
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."
Adolf Hitler
SlappyGee 10 months ago
Your creator is your mother, pay some respect stupid religious assfuk hypocrit McCain.
Salmo77 3 years ago 2
Yes, we should embrace core values like killing people who didn't attack us, staying in their countries for 100 years, and starting more wars. We should worship the great god, Government, sacrifice our money liberties and very lives to it. Send your tithes and offerings to the five sided temple in DC! Send your sacrifices to the local Marine recruiting station! Obey our god's every dictate! Now, turn in your hymnals to hymn number 66, and join in as the organist plays "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran".
cab498 3 years ago
Agreed, surrendering critical thinking and adhering to blind loyalty to dogma & anthropomorphic divinities is the recipe for atrocities in the name of god(life) and country(humanity).
Zealots, nationalists, racists & sexists don't understand why we are here and need a superior or inferior to placate their egos.
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
McCain is pure evil.
tesla921 3 years ago
If we should always stick with the core values we were built upon, would it be a good idea to bring back slavery & not allow women to vote?
mattramspott 3 years ago 3
Politicians have only one belief..keep fooling the american people and keep the money flowing.
Separation of church and state...what a farce!
beckpod1 3 years ago
Last time we turned power over to an atheist, 100 million people lost their lives.
ByronicHero37 3 years ago
Who?
And if its someone who killed 100million people and was an atheist, thats completely different to someone who killed 100million people in the name of atheism.
markbullimore 3 years ago
You speak of either:
Stalin - Stalinist. Sicko? He thought he was God.
Hitler - Pagan (usually good people) & he exploited the Catholics to kill for him by buying a church.
Atheism isn't a religion. That would acknowledge anthropomorphic divinities (deities) that we know don't exist.
We aren't nihilists.
Good people committed atrocities because dogma & sociopaths(npd or apd) exploited the definition of the word of god.
Religion is the exploitation of imagination.
What, not who is "god".
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
Sociopaths even twisted science. Look up
Eugenics in America, check multiple sources.
It could have been used for good instead we used it for evil. The US's acceptance of this inspired Hitler's eugenics.
I am a patriot but my borders don't stop at nationalism.
Borders are scratched across the hearts of men
By strangers with a calm, judicial pen,
And when the borders bleed we watch with dread
The lines of ink across the map turn red. -Marya Mannes
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
I'm voting for McCain because he has such a cool comb-over.
1060893 3 years ago
Tarot was made for card games, not for divination! XD
Tarockspieler 3 years ago
Greetings from the Ronald McDonald Brigade!Beliefnet and Tarotdotcom promote occult stereotypes which are bad for game players! Tarot cards were made for no other purpose than card game playing. Beliefnet should tell the whole truth about tarot cards!
tarotdotcomsucks 3 years ago
I don't think it matters what faith or religion the president is as long as he doesn't bring his religion into his job. Religion should NOT be a factor at ALL in this presidential race because it shouldn't matter! This country was founded on the principle that everyone should be able to worship whoever however they want. Church and state should ALWAYS be seperate! Anything else is bound to encroach on someone's beliefs! Unfortunately it seems like the two are getting closer together = bad news
esegura21 3 years ago 5
There is NO way he can become the next president. He's even worst than George Bush.
UGOTDAJACK 3 years ago 3
i didn't think that mccain publicly said things like this so blatently, i'm disgusted
JermyKan 3 years ago 2
When the nation is predominantly Christian and they pray for their President to have both wisdom and courage, then the best channel for the Almighty is to have a President who is a Christian.
fieryman1 3 years ago
If Romney's religion "absolutely shouldn't" be a disqualifying factor, then a muslim's religion shouldn't be a disqualifying factor either. Furthermore, if religion can't disqualify, then it shouldn't qualify either. To say that only people of Judeo-Christian heritage have character is retarded. America was founded on ENLIGHTENMENT values. We need a president who protects and defends the constitution and citizens' safety. Religious heritage issues are for individuals to tackle, not governments.
sarah95pekoe 3 years ago
It would be great to have another Atheist president. Wouldn't that be a big F*** you to the terrorists. Deists and agnostics have made the best presidents.
adobster 3 years ago
I'd throw up if I had anything to eat today. Lucky me.
Romka1989 3 years ago
I guess I was making the point that everyone should have freedom of choice whatever their religious beliefs, and I do believe that individual liberty must at all costs be protected. However, this does not change the historical fact that America was founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. But obviously that simply can't be the case because I'm a "closed minded deluded yahoo."
zudabeck 4 years ago
Article 11, US Treaty with Tripoli, the haste which the article was ratified & signed & the absolute wording of "in any sense". No mention of anything religious besides no law respecting the establishment, but none to restrict the free exercise of, within the Constitution. Our Declaration suggests only an ambiguous Creator and Nature's God. Nor are any values only found within Judeo-Christian faith presented. All are intrinsic of all society.
I behoove you reconsider your "historical fact."
Cacovangor 4 years ago
With all due respect I think you need to read some of my earlier posts to clarify what I mean by, "Founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles." (I was primarily referring to some of the founding fathers and their intent.)
zudabeck 4 years ago
No you were making the assertion that America was founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. Most founders were Deists in their own words and any Christians knew enough to preclude their own beliefs with impunity.
Our money held E Pluribus Unum until 1956, our pledge made no mention until 1954, no one but brazen officials suggest such foundations. Even swearing in was considered an affirmation for purposes of religious tolerance and no mention is made of God or a Bible.
Cacovangor 3 years ago
Like I said, go back and read ALL of my posts on this subject. Not ALL the founders were Deists, and those who wrote the constitution were also not all deists.
zudabeck 3 years ago
Well of those I see one errant suggestion the inscription on money, the assertion that we are a Judeo-Christian nation a couple of times, and a quote from John Jay from a private letter, though he opposed Catholics gaining seats of prominence and was obviously not someone to look towards for religious tolerance. We have a strong history, none contend this, nor contend Christians among the founders. Your contention is a Judeo-Christian foundation, you show none. I show the stark contrast thereof.
Cacovangor 3 years ago
We agree to disagree...
zudabeck 3 years ago
Suggest any one thing that does not relate to the McCarthy era witch-hunts that we are founded upon Judeo-Christian values and principles. We have a strong history, no one will deny, and it has only strengthened recently which has been damning to the careers of politicians since the 1950's and our world relations, but a foundation? The notion is absurd and I would say Un-American.
Cacovangor 3 years ago
No I think we will just have to agree to disagree...
zudabeck 3 years ago
No, as the discussion is far too important to leave it as two groups who merely step away. That 'foundation' is used for institutional religion and oppression through social exile. This is no personal opinion such as interpretation of a painting, this is the presentation of the facts and you show nothing.
You agree to disagree with reality.
Cacovangor 3 years ago
Ah right...sorry. Shame when the debate must digress to the level of personal insults.
zudabeck 4 years ago
The founders knew the importance of religion, and were certainly influenced by it, but the U.S. was in no way founded on Christianity.
Look up the Treaty of Tripoli (1797), specifically the 11th article, for conclusive evidence of this.
dhkelly1s 4 years ago
The Founding Fathers built a WALL between politics and religion. America was found on the greatest principles precisely for the very reason that for the first time the government took religion out of politics. When they constantly mention "Christian principles," those principles are found within any sane human being. They are universal principles, our innate morality. Just because some are found in the Bible doesn't mean that they are derived from Christian teachings. To be continued...
Evcharlesdarwin1 4 years ago
I'm not a fan of McKenedy. He is a member of the Bush-Clinton political machine. But he is right about Romney's faith. It is a non-issue.
outkid 4 years ago
John McCain is doing what alot of thiests do. They try dance around the issue that thier beliefs are not as strange as all other religions. You cant have respect for another religion and therefor that persons morality if you think thier religion is wrong.
TheNextTurn 4 years ago
The founding father's were Deists, not Christians.
BlueFireWitch 4 years ago 2
I am so sick of hearing politicians parrot this whole "America was founded on Christian principles" bucket of crap. Neither God NOR Jesus is even mentioned in the constitution. The "founding fathers" weren't even Christians; they were deists. We are a SECULAR nation, not a Christian one!
arcanist9 4 years ago
Can you please explain to me why you then have "In God We Trust" printed on all your dollar bills if America was a purely secular nation not built on Christian principles..?
zudabeck 4 years ago
"In God We Trust" was printed on the dollar bill in the early 1950s by a bunch of christian fundamentalist charlatans and quacks who have distorted American history and misinterpreted our constitution. The British have Darwin's picture on the pound, whereas we Americans have the words "In God We Trust" on the dollar bill, and we fool ourselves by pretending that we are a secular nation. SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!
Evcharlesdarwin1 4 years ago
John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and one of the three men most responsible for the writing of the Constitution declared:
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is their duty-as well as privilege and interest- of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." Still sounds like the Founding Fathers knew this was a Christian nation.
zudabeck 4 years ago
Perhaps reading a little bit of Thomas Jefferson might clear up this misconception. The Founding Fathers of this country were deists, not Christians. Above all, secularists who believed that there must be a wall between the church and the state. There is a fine distinction. If people like you keep up this attitude, it is only a matter of time before we become the Christian Republic of the United States very much like the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Evcharlesdarwin1 4 years ago
Might have to agree to disagree on that one...
zudabeck 4 years ago
I'm sorry. I didn't understand what you meant. What do you mean you have to agree to disagree? You either agree or you don't.
Evcharlesdarwin1 4 years ago
It means that we will never agree on this subject, so not much point in continuing the discussion. Therefore we both agree to disagree on the fact that America was founded on Christian principles. Not every founding father had to be a Christian for America to have been founded and based primarily on Christian principles.
zudabeck 4 years ago
If the Founding Fathers had referred to the Bible when writing the Constitution, we would have to throw people in jail for "coveting their neighbour's wife." We would have to throw in jail anyone who worships a god other than Yahweh "for [he] is a jealous god."
Evcharlesdarwin1 4 years ago
no cause you're a close minded deluded yahoo zudabeck. 'the wall' was built to protect the secular state from the encroachments of religion, so you guys wouldn't be able to impose your delusional shit on some thinking people.
Somatostatin 4 years ago
As long as a Christian (Mormons and Catholics not included) Republican wins, I'm happy.
IWTSYPthethird 4 years ago
Crazy religious nutt! I'd rather vote for an athiest who values life and refuses war over a crazy idiot like Bush who believed God spoke to him about Iraq?!
logicaleo 4 years ago
Atheists have nothing to value in life. :| You live for nothing, so why live at all? Just curious.
IWTSYPthethird 4 years ago
Aethiests live for today and if anything value life more than Christians because we see this as our heaven and know we wont get a second chance.
saintee1000 4 years ago
john mcain's a diddler. sue me mcain!
Locke1217 4 years ago
Would you vote for pathological liar or an intellectually honest non -believer?
The majority of Americans prefer Bullshit
AuShawster 4 years ago 17
fuck you mccanin VOTE 4 AN ATHIEST
latinanarchist 4 years ago 2
You know what? Fuck religion. All of it.
Mingus18 4 years ago 3
I wonder how his foot taste. That should be a question for his next debate. Of course, I'm rooting for Joe Biden...all of our candidates have made statements which they meant as innocent, but they didn't come out that way. McCain's statement here is much worse though. He means it, it's not just a slip.
LandDestroyer 4 years ago
Hey john go fuck your self, I wont vote for a guy who will sell out the USA
badfinger05200 4 years ago
While i tend to agree with you on the voting part, this country's already been sold, it's owned by corporate america, the jobs have been sent overseas, or somehow worked into the prison labor system, our education and healthcare systems are a joke, by GLOBAL standards...and the populace is culled by HMO's and or pharmaceutical companies who happen to be bed-buddies with a lot of politicians, who also court the military-industrial complex.
Swordsquire 4 years ago
open mouth, insert foot
raterroyale 4 years ago 2
LOOOOOOOOL
TU! (thumbs up'ed)
Revilox90 4 years ago
My God, this man wants to sell his soul for the White House, and clearly there are no buyers. Personally, I wouldn't pick it up for a quarter at a swap meet, to use as a door stop, I just wish he would recognize what a loser he is, and go away.
PtolemyJones 4 years ago
The principles that McCain is speaking of, predate Christianity and the Jewish faith.
He's a bit weak when it comes to matters of religion.
Liquidsound 4 years ago
Let's get an amen on that.
AdIgnorantiam 4 years ago
amen
28adrianpeterson 4 years ago
I don't think that religion would be an issue if we didn't have a member of the LDS (Mormon) church running for president.
butterfli808 4 years ago
I think an atheist president would be the best president we ever had, assuming its not the amazing atheist (he would suck), but this, my religion is better than yours hahahahaha, we dont need that in a president. An atheists tend to be very rational, and if one were to run, that i agreed with (like Obama), I would vote for him, even though he wouldnt stand a chance.
NYjon888 4 years ago
i agree, sucks you're getting a bunch of thumbs down though, i suppose the word Atheist is enough to piss off religious people, let alone saying Religion + Politics = Bad. I wonder how many thumbs down i will get for that? :P
Phantom550 4 years ago 4
On another note, John McCain says in this video that America was founded as a Christian nation, which is a common misunderstanding among Americans. I won't go into detail about it, but with a little research you would find that the founding fathers were in fact against "one nation under God".
Phantom550 4 years ago 2
you get a thumbs up from me bro :P
KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!!
Revilox90 4 years ago
Now, keeping in mind the Constitution of the United States is designed for freedom of any religion, it would only make sense that an agnostic president would be capable of upholding this segment better than anyone who firmly believes in something or lack of something could do.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
Frank agnostic or weak atheist.
thobern 4 years ago
Actually, there's not much Christian about the founding of USA, it's just a common mistake. Be gone useless fool.
mpheak 4 years ago
To paraphrase Wikipedia, "Separation of Church and State" is a political and legal doctrine (derived from the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) which states that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate from and independent of one another. The term refers to the combination of 2 principles: secularity of government and freedom of religious exercise.
monjott 4 years ago 3
I mean srsly, who would you rather vote for, someone who was sincere and agnostic, or someone who makes sure to invoke God and Jesus every 2 minutes to manipulate religious voters? Who is being fake? What does this say about their character?
GretchenDawntreader 4 years ago
bah, you don't have to be religious (or any specific religion) to be of "good character" and you can be religious and be of bad character. I think it would be striking if someone came out and said, no I'm an atheist but I'd be a good president.
GretchenDawntreader 4 years ago
religion is fucking stupid and gets in the way of real progress
put them all in jail i say
reckIess 4 years ago
Islam is a Judeo-Christian religion. John doesn't know that though.
felixfrombside 4 years ago
Islam is about as judeo-christian as Satanism.
They say the bible is wrong (twisted by those vampire jews they talk about), jesus is not the son of God.
Now this doesn't take away from the fact that our government is using the predictably stupid and aggressive muslims as a patsy in their staged terror attacks used to create a police state. That is definitely a no brainer. Like using communists and mafia with JFK's killing.
Cyrus255 4 years ago
This guy is a wuss. Listen to him um and arggh and try so hard to be all things.
truthchannel 4 years ago
oh yeah and Islamo-facist terrorists.
usmcdevildog83 4 years ago
Damn right, this country was founded on Christian principles and teachings. Only you God-less, abortionist, cowardly little liberals have a problem with Christianity.
usmcdevildog83 4 years ago
too bad the fore-fathers stressed that the church be completely separate from the state, religion has no place in polictics (it will never happen) but it clouds judgement, and keeps people from being rationa. like yourself it sounds like you have no clue about history, especailly your own countrys. or else you'd know better
drinkedeh 4 years ago
Here I go again, wasting my breath. Let me guess, public school education? The country and the Constitution were in fact founded on Christian presuppositions. Seperation of Church and state is mentioned only in a private letter from Jefferson to a Baptist? pastor to assure him there would be no state endorsed denomination like the Church of England. It does and never meant that the states civil morality should or could be founded on the humanism you have been brainwashed by.
a5dr3 4 years ago
Let me guess now
Christian Private School?
fucking retard
Revilox90 4 years ago
well yeah public school education..in canada keep in mind, which trumps the american education system which is a joke by the way..this man and people like him stand to keep you the way you are right now.. uninformed. but im not fighting over youtube forums...have a nice life in your police state
drinkedeh 4 years ago
Yet they decided to print "In God We Trust" on our money. Furthermore, whether you want to accept it or not, Christians make up the vast number of Americans. Athiests and other religions are in the minority. Therefore we should have a President who represents the majority of the people, rather than a tiny few.
usmcdevildog83 4 years ago
idiot...if we had a president who represented the majority of anything, John Kerry would have won. Your argument is nothing but might makes right. You want demographic majority, wouldn't that make the next president female? Maybe hispanic? And they decided to adopt in god we trust as the national motto in 1956.
GretchenDawntreader 4 years ago
The founding fathers also knew a lot more about epistemology than you. Some even understood that universal, invarant, abstract entities like laws of logic can only exist in a universe where a personal, sovereign God can sustain them. Your precious judgement and rationality is totally subjective and arbitrary when divorced from the Biblical worldview that made America great.
a5dr3 4 years ago
He is whoring himself to a major demographic of voters. The Christian vote has immense power in elections, he is going after it by any means necessary. Could he be a little bit more smoothe, and clever in his manner of appealing to them? Yes. Does he seem sincere at all? Not to me. If nothing more, it should comfort those voters that he is partial enough to their influence to let it effect his political stances. I do see it bothering them that he gives it a bit of a bad image perhaps.
hahanice3 4 years ago
wow mccain is clueless
cmell 4 years ago
religious superiority = evil
m0fiya 4 years ago 2
The founding fathers were deists, pantheists and atheists - this idea that this country was founded on judeo-christian beliefs is a neoconservative claim that has no grounding in the historical record.
tanit 4 years ago 4
link?
dntbehtn 4 years ago
Anyone who thinks that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values could not receive my vote, as they have absolutely no understanding of American history. That's one thing that seems somewhat important to be president... a knowledge of American history.
Gymnopedie55 4 years ago
What a bastard. I bet that atheist candidates would never get elected if people thought like him.
rowsdowersavesus 4 years ago
I would hope they wouldn't, sure woulnd't get my vote. BTW, have you looked up bastard in the dictionary?
bambislayer525 4 years ago
Why would you not vote for an atheist? That's sheer bigotry.
I have, and I'm using it colloquially.
rowsdowersavesus 4 years ago
Would an atheist vote for a fundamental Christian? Is that not bigotry also?
bambislayer525 4 years ago
If the fundamentalist would not be able to keep the beliefs out of the public sphere, most non-fundie christians would avoid him too. And if they were able to keep from passing pro-jesus legislation, people would support him. Some atheists support Ron Paul (fundamentalist christian) So no, it isn't bigotry to not support someone who would violate your constitution
rowsdowersavesus 4 years ago
The office was designed for Christian by Christian but they
have been asleep for a long time.
youngsinfo 4 years ago
the indecider
tintaala 4 years ago 2
I'm just studying the Constitution in my American History class at school.Its funny how McCain says the nation was founded on the principles of Christianity, however, the first amendment in the bill of rights is about Religious and Political Freedom, saying that citizens of the US have the right to exercise belief in whichever religion they want.
Revilox90 4 years ago 2
Europeans (especially English Puritans) immigrated to the US to escape religious persucution. So where does he get this information that the US was founded on Christian Principles?
Revilox90 4 years ago 2
Just so everyone knows, he later retracted from his statement and said that he would welcome a Muslim President as long as he was a good leader.
ed2point0 4 years ago
/watch?v=NVFwAXzkBtY
malicetinkaya 4 years ago
This guy has become such an ass kissing, yes man. "I believe in evolution...oh wait, I'm the only one raising my hand in this debate? Well, I do see the hand of god in everything...yeah, that sounds good." How about standing up & saying that a president's religion has NO bearing on whether or not he or she can do the job.
Deadman3913 4 years ago
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate...
DavidThePatriot 4 years ago
What religion should the president be?? WTF kind of question is that? The answer is obvious: NONE. That is what I expect.
Read the real history to find that the nation was not built on xtian values-quit reading the "altered acceptable history" you fool, McCain. You don't have to be religious or spiritual to do what is right. Seems to me that the idiots in the main brain station of the US have forgotten that in their race to try bending the world to "US-ism". Downgrade.
kaisenji 4 years ago
separation of church and state!
moloono1 4 years ago
arturo you are fuckin pathetic. Stop being mad your bitch gf left you for some other different-raced faggot.
thettruest 4 years ago
the concept of god is an asylum of ignorance
ulujm 4 years ago
How in the hell have all you idiots consolidated your stupidity? There is nothing wrong with being a believer in Christ! Jesus wouldn't force Himself on anyone. People do bad things in the name of any religion. Conservatives and liberals are the most closed minded folks I've ever met.
intrafree 4 years ago 2
Acts 5:1-11 Numbers 25:1-9 Exodus 22:17 Leviticus 20:13 Exodus 22:19 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 Deuteronomy 13:13-19
Thou Shalt Not Commit murder is by far the most ironic statement ever made.
Plushtar 4 years ago
That is a COMMANDMENT NOT a statement. In all of those refrences it was done because of the OTHER commant to the Isrealites to PURGE(to get rid of) ALL the evil in the land.
You were only looking at one part of the verse-look at the whole verse/chapter next time plz.
hankandu 4 years ago
I'd love to have an "atheist republican" for president.
MRCAB 4 years ago
it's his Opinion.. would you guys prefer him telling a lie? I mean sure he can come and tell you any non-Christian can make a good president... But that would be somethng he's saying to make you feel better and to get you to vote for him.. Think About it.. and Leave him alone!
TVFREAKK1 4 years ago