Bolero Chicago Symphony at Carnegie Hall

[MarilynKen]

The great modulating ending was cut off. Bummer. I liked it anyway, what there was of it.

[rjksoccer06]

I give any trombonist credit for playing bolero.  He was having trouble but I have the hardest time being able to tell if hes using diaphragm vibrato? Idk why he would use that or if hes just THAT nervous but i doubt it.

[philpara1]

At 7.19 to 7.32 the French horn guy was pulling his horn apart, Why, anybody know ?

[JoshyBoBoshy]

@philpara1 He was emptying his slides of spit.

[JoshyBoBoshy]

@philpara1 He was emptying his slides of spit. 

[STrumpetplayer]

@philpara1 He was emptying his spit, bro

[moviemagic233]

I would rather be the cello part because all you do is strum while all the other guys do the same thing but really great song and orchestra too!thumbs up if you agree!

[JerryTheSpartan]

thumbs up if burger king brought you her.

[nfamiliar]

the principal flautist, is he with the LA Phil now?

[jwinder2]

@nfamiliar No. He is back with Chicago. He played with LA Phil for part of a season, then decided to go back to Chicago.



[tyonathanb1]

I think Jay's solo is fantastic. I have a video of a live from Lincoln Center from like 1989 where Joe Allessi wanks the high Db hard. Bolero is the trombonist's nemesis.  You come in cold after sitting for what seems like forever. Jay is amazing.

[DrHdhouse]

Stewart Taylor formerly of Montreal and Israel Philharmonic may be the best but Remington, the old teacher at Eastman...that was the guy who got everyone notable in gear.

[TheUndacovabrotha]

That's jay freidman. And he's the best orchestral trombonist there is.! Everyone has days when there off a bit! Even him and the solo was still really good. And yes I know there's Joe alessi but I don't care for him much.

[mortalfrog0815]

trombone soloist wasn't really good, was he?

[Hettbone1]

@mortalfrog0815 It was a little shaky but Its a challenging solo, especially in context. Despite this performance, Jay Friedman is still one of the leading trombonists today.

[mortalfrog0815]

@Hettbone1 of course it's not easy, but it's friedman... i was expecting more! especially because i know how good he really is!

[sempersemperveritas]

Bravi tutti! Bolero is always easy to talk about, and very difficult to play in "THAT" moment. Great appreciation, really, and sympathy, for the two "senior but strong Lions" on tenor and clarinet / soprano sax: yeah!!! bravo!!!



[Gheorgyi]

@sempersemperveritas Never undervaluate "seniors"; they've got ther experience... (I am 82...). I can't recognize the conductor: who is he? Thank you.

[TheKevinV08]

@Gheorgyi He is Daniel Barimboim.

[Gheorgyi]

@TheKevinV08 Thanks. I remembered him different. By the way, his surname is BarENboim. Thanks the same.

[djbillygee]

BY FAR THE BEST VERSION OF THE PIECE, BY THE BEST GROUP OF MUSICIANS I HAVE A CAPITOL RECORDS VERSION BY THIS ORCHESTRA..IT IS MY PRIZE POSSESSION..

[Gheorgyi]

A shame it's not completed, WHY??!!!

[MrMoiMagnus]

@Gheorgyi There's a second part in the list to the right...

[FreeportRichmond]

that oboe d'amore player is so *fancy*!

[WeaReoNeForever1]

which kind of sticks is the snare drum player using? they´re loocking very unusual

[drsodan]

John Yeh was playing Eb Clarinet, if i'm not mistaken?

[adam246811]

@drsodan Yeh, that's right. (pun intended)

[venskus2009]

@drsodan yes sir, and Bass. hes amazing isnt he?

[BeowulfVids]

That tenor sax player is using the same horn, mouthpiece, and ligature as me.

[MrMoiMagnus]

Beautiful solon from everybody, but the Tenor and Soprano saxophones (alterning on bassoon and clarinet) I enjoyed the most. The trombone solo was good in the high register, but the quality of the sound didn't make it the whole way down to C... Well, it covers over two octaves, so who blames him?

[NickRobo1994]

the flute solo is awesome! and i play trumpet so that means alot

[agcolonialman]

@NickRobo1994 eh. not as much as you think. ;)

[itwontcomeout5678]

i like how the bassoonist doubles on tenor sexphone

[ledormant]

The tenor saxophone player is out of breath at the end of his solo and the sound weakens.

[cyclist091]

@ledormant Some would call it a diminuendo.

[ledormant]

@cyclist091 The score doesn't say diminuendo.

[NickRobo1994]

@ledormant yeah it not a diminuendo its a constant crescendo... its a , umm, minuendo,, i guess

[MrHarvey17]

@NickRobo1994 poco crescendo, for future info :)

[symbian1530]

Una vergüenza los saxofonistas tan malos para una orquesta de este nivel!

[PublicLibraryx]

KFC Man at 1:46 XD

[ProjectmixBros]

I bet that snare drum player has some serious forearms.

[guntherlove54]

@ProjectmixBros That snare drum player is Ted Atkatz. He is the former principle percussionist of the chicago symphony, marathon runner, and singer/keyboardist of the band NYCO

[lsbrother]

@ProjectmixBros "I bet that snare drum player has some serious forearms. "

I find it quite painful to watch him - wouldn't it be more comfortable to use his wrists a little more - or is that not good technique?

[CallMehCash]

@lsbrother the technique hes using for this creates a more stacato sound, as you can hear, which is probably what the conducted wanted. adding wrist makes it legato.

[JOEdoesThings22]

@ProjectmixBros you dont play snare drum with your forearms....

[Gheorgyi]

@JOEdoesThings22 omigod... no, but what is holding the sticks? the hands, right? and what else are the hands attached to, if not the forearms? and where are the muscles that control the hands, if not in the forearms? and what does the continuous use of muscles do to them? Well, it sounds like "this is the house that Jack built", right? It's a good performance. Cheers, everybody.

[Gheorgyi]

@JOEdoesThings22 As you can see, the tips of his forefingers are kept very close to the end of the sticks. The remaining shaft of the sticks is running along the forearms. This ensures maximum control, whioch in this case is necessary because the snare drum is played "pianissimo" (very low, soft). The strength of wrists and fore arms is applied when loudness is necessary. Compare with the way the sticks are held as the end of the piece is approaching.

[gestrumpet]

I think it might be time for Jay to hang it up.

Don't get me wrong though: he is one of the best ever!

[loudlong]

Join the Facebook Group 'Bud Herseth Deserves a Kennedy Center Honor"

[demonfoxbleach]

respect the drummer

[MrGiumi]

GRANDE COMBS!!!!

[saxomojarf]

Why is the snare drummer looking at his drum? It's not going anywhere!!

[alejoeisabel]

I would love to hear Ravel's Bolero with Daniel Baronboim conducting the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela or even the Teresa Carreno Youth Orchestra.

[themouseofevil]

Who's the principal trumpet player? That doesn't look like Bud Herseth

[clairannette]

Pretty interesting. Is this the Chicago style to have this constant, rapid 32nd-beat style vibrato? Everyone - especially the double reeds and tenor sax - seems to "vibrate" this way.

[Niurzgius]

Yo dawgs, this is totally awesome.

Respect! :)

[organist121893]

anybody know who's playing tenor saxophone?

[trumpettromba]

wow~ I luv the TROMBONE!!!!

[65strad]

I was looking for Craig Morris on the piccolo trumpet as mentioned by Super Potech however the only trumpet player that I saw playing wasn't Morris, and it wasn't a piccolo trumpet. It appeared to be the asst principal Mark Ridenour playing a Yamaha Chicago which was surprising since he plays Bach primarily.

[WAKeele]

@65strad Morris just played the picc stuff on this. Mark played everything else. He was also playing the CSO's Mt. Vernon Bach. 

[dasteufelhund]

what a tone on the tenor sax!

[fedecavaliere]

perfect.

[Spdres]

Tromboneplayer has a hard time here. I think he was glad to get it over with.

[freshhh1994]

@Spdres

What are you talking about? The trombone solo was amazing.

[Spdres]

@freshhh1994 Obviously, I don't agree ;) Although it is a very tough solo, one of the most feared in the repertoire, this was not convincing.

[Jakorako]

@Spdres

I agree, Mr. Friedman is a amazing trombone player, I've heared a cd of him that includes this solo and sounds awesome, but in this performance he doesn't sounds full and relaxed, but still been a great performance as well.

[TheUndacovabrotha]

@Jakorako everyone has that day when they dont play as well. even Mr.Friedman

[SuperPotec]

Piccolo trumpet is Craig Moris, former principal. I like his playing.

Yeah, he was formerly section player of CSO.

So, it was sorry not to get tenured after probation.

[dondongo666]

a little variance, but good

[jsurstru35]

The Chicago Symphony is, truly, 'without parallel'!

[LLJtbone]

I thought he was playing a straight tenor but not so. What a nice clean sound.

[LLJtbone]

The tbone solo sounded pretty damn stellar too.

[contrabone]

@LLJtbone That's Jay for ya.  ;)

[gingerpi93]

The basson and the horn had such beautiful sound <3

[marimba613]

The snare drum player is Ted Atkatz who left the Chicago Symphony to start a rock band! This is the last piece he ever played with the CSO

[gestrumpet]

he has to have some balls to do that.

[TENACO]

It seems a shame that orchestras in the category of the Chicago Symphony, not to hire professional saxophonists and have to be the clarinet which make parts of saxophone (a practice that took 50 years ago, not today). So they only get the ... without a compact ring, tuning, uncontrolled vibrato, etc.. Shameful !!!!!

[jlew180l]

maybe they couldn't find a saxophonist good enough...sometimes thats the case. Not everyone has great orchestral rhythm.

[TENACO]

Me parece una vergüenza que orquestas de la categoría de la sinfónica de chicago, no contrate a saxofonistas profesionales, y tengan que ser los clarinetistas los que hagan las partes de saxofón (práctica que se llevaba hace 50 años, no en la actualidad). Así les sale el solo..., sin un timbre compacto, afinación, vibrato descontrolado, etc. Vergonzoso!!!!!

[Shujulian]

@TENACO the vibrato acts as his only way of imbuing emotion into the piece. Ravel himself often said it was an orchestra piece without music. It's simply his way of adding an emotional layer to the music, since Ravel was a huge stickler for people that changed his music. Even altering the tempo would piss the dude off.

[jsurstru35]

@Shujulian ...Good point...but the late great Toscaninni conducted the bolery in his own way...not a simply gradual crescendo from start to finish, but a crescendo toward the middle, then a diminuendo, then a final creacendo!

[overlord1294]

I'm guessing you really have to count while playing this one.

[tubonianflute]

Lol, You bet your embouchure you do!

[ThaSchwab]

Combs on clarinet AND soprano sax? Beautiful. :P

[overlord1294]

thats not combs

[ThaSchwab]

I didn't even have to look closely to know it was him. You do, however. Also, I'm talking about the soprano saxophone.

[b286guy]

Yes, it is.

[musicman1872]

@ThaSchwab haha I didn't even realize it was the same guy until you mentioned it. I think it's amazing that there's a soprano sax AND a tenor sax playing in this piece as well!

[tyonathanb1]

@ThaSchwab He made at least one Jazz recording with Chuck and Gap Mangione on Alto Saxophone in the early sixties.