the recoil is different not bad... most people are used to the recoil coming from 8 - 10 inches infront of where a bullpup produces the kick. the result is a gun that pushes more energy into the shoulder and less vertical rise. If you learn how to shoot the gun you can achieve much faster follow up Target Acquisition. I personally am a fan of the bullpup over the conventional rifle set up.
Do you think it's better than the FN F2000 as far as design? It looks a little light, like it kicked pretty good. My buddy Blackriflear15 and I have been trying to deside if we should get one.
Yep, great gun but a shame I can't sit through that noise, someone thinks is music, has anyone ever tried to tip the gun back to see that the ejection will continue even if uphill?
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@iTailsTheStunter i dont think they would ever jam in there just cause they werent expelled all the out if you notice theres many empty casings behind the one thats acutally coming out the end and even it it doesnt come all the way out i bet the next one come out rite behind the last. watch when he reloads it shoots like 4 out when he cocks it. but then again never handled this or no anything about this gun i just think is it jammed that easy the wouldnt made it in that design in this day in age
@mjdietle from wat i can see of this design it is pretty reliable even with the foward ejection of spent casings check out the fn f2000 it uses the same system an is proven to be reliable.although it is a 5.56 instead of a 308 like the kel-tec here lol
@bushpigification Not if you reload what you shoot. It's awesome! All the cases in a nice pile in front of the gun instead of thrown all over the fucking range. It's genius!
@bushpigification A firefight, LOL!!! Considering how often that happens in reality it's not likely to be a problem. Oh course if your in Detroit it might be a concern.
Nice bullpup. But for god sakes. Handle that recoil! I don't see how you could hit a damn thing consistently bouncing around like that. Man up and lean into that shit.
I agree with Cash, the 308 round is way too much for a carbine, it's definetely more suited for long range in the prone position. I shot an 308 HK that was converted into a carbine with a collapsable stock, and let's just say it was a very unpleasant experience.
@MUSBFRANK oh grow a pair, you want pain try a galil .308 without a rubber buttpad, the cetme's and H&K's do kick hard so I'll give ya that, but ya don't know pain from a .308 untill you have the misfortune of firing a galil in it's original pattern.
Don't take this seriously I'm just pokin' fun at ya I know hoe hard the g93's kick and it's NOT "fun" and yeah you're right .308 isn't meant for carbine use, the shortest barrel I would ever consider putting on one is 18" .
@reignick1133 LOL, yeah right, the only thing I grew after shooting that HK was a bruise on my shoulder. I used to want a Galil, well, atleast when they were legal to obtain out here in the great Republik of Kalifornia, but any of those AK style weapons don't interest me anymore, although I would gladly take a Russian Dragunov SVD any day.
@MUSBFRANK heh yeah I hear ya , the Dragunov (not the Romak 3) is a nice piece of kit, and while I won't lie and say the G93 is anything less than bruising,or try to be an "internet toughguy" after my shooting session with the Galil I had felt as if Mike Tyson punched m shoulder off.
I guess it's part of the reason I want a RFB it seems to have far less recoil then either of those beasts.
@StunnedMutha Same set-up as the FN FS-2000. It's actually a great little idea. Eliminates lefties having brass thrown across their faces and ejecting hot brass cases on your squadmate at your side. Also allows for containing several spent cases in case the job requires no evidence be left behind. And for those civilians it makes collecting your spent brass a whole lot easier, its all in a neat pile in front of you!
@StunnedMutha The ejection of rounds are through a tube on top of the barrel. The cases just stack on top of one another rather than being propelled out with any significant force. Its one of the reason why Kel urges its users to refrain from manually cycling rounds, it takes only one bullet tip to hit the primer on the lodged case in front of it to set off an explosion.
I'll sum it up. The Kel tec is a nice rifle but not military grade IMO. Would I own one? Yeh, why not? Would I take it on a high risk "no knock" warrant? Probably not. New designs have bugs that need to be worked out. I don't think there are enough of them out there just yet to show all potention problems so far through hard use. It's possible that nothing may show up but I don't want to be the one to have a problem when shit goes bad. For the record there is NOTHING wrong with 5.56.
makes a lot of since though.... that way it wont be spitting hot residue on your face if your a lefty and u wont be spitting shells down a persons back if your next to someone.
.as noted...you get what you pay for and yes...I have shot many Kel-Tec's and cannot remember one time where I didn't have a missfeed or malfunction of some kind within 50 rounds. I also found them to be ergonomically inferior and innacurate compared to premium brands. For those who want to compare the polymers and components of a Kel-Tec and a Sig and not recognize the fit and finish aspects not to mention things like braided springs an specific alloys need to go back to armorer school.
.as noted...you get what you pay for and yes...I have shot many Kel-Tec's and cannot remember one time where I didn't have a missfeed or malfunction of some kind within 50 rounds. I also found them to be ergonomically inferior and innacurate compared to premium brands. For those who want to compare the polymers and components of a Kel-Tec and a Sig and not recognize the fit and finish aspects not to mention things like braided springs an specific alloys need to go back to armorer school.
@cobyson100 If Kel-Tec is "Trailer Trash"&(we assume) beneath contempt by someone of your intellect & social standing.Then exactly why is it you shoot so MANY of them 50 rounds or MORE?What are PREMIUM brands?Specifically ,what Specific alloys?BRAIDED SPRINGS? My cheap Romanian AKs have "braided" hammer springs, but my SIG 210 has none, I guess the SIG is junk right?Please little one,stop trying to sound gun knowledgeable&gun snobbish as it is painfully obvious you are talking out your arse
@sbd45acp this isn't about the kel-tec, this is about someone challenging your judgement when it comes to your choice of weapon brand. You defending Kel-Tec is like you defending your Yugo at the Indy 500. The only one who doesn't know how foolish the whole argument is are the tons of yugo fans who followed you there! LMAO
@cobyson100@cobyson100 Read my posts little one. I never stated Kel-Tec was MY brand.I will gladly defend my weapon choices as a paid shooting professional for the past 30 years-You? Didn't think so.You bash Kel-Tec & KT owners as "Trailer Trash" and when pressed for proof you have nothing but your opinion & we know what opinions are like. Your juvenile,non humorous attempts to make some bizarre comparison to Yugo and Indy cars -Fail.I don't drive a Yugo & don't race Indy.
@sbd45acp OMG..Professional shooting? Really, that's how you make a living? Why don't you share your most recent results and the check you made? I know a lot of passionate, bone head gun enthusiasts who don't know sh*t. They all seem to like Kel-Tec's. LMAO...time to retire grandpa.
@cobyson100 You're a sad little fellow cobyson. You don't even recognize your repeated failures to offer any facts, & when pressed, you resort to pitiful name calling. The last match I shot, this afternoon, I won. Got no paycheck for it. I am a passionate, bone head gun enthusiast, and I may not know sh*t. But if you want to meet at the range and shoot Man-vs-Man on steel against me- you just name the time and place-maybe you can be the one to retire grandpa.. I dare you
@cobyson100 Not up for it little one? Why am I not surprised. Why don't you stay in for another 15 and maybe you'll be up for it. I've trained ignorant little snots like you. You don't even know what you don't know yet, and you don't like being reminded that you can't shoot. There is nothing about you, that I, or any one I know... "wanna-be".Good night little one, time to go night -night. Good bye & Good luck with your life... you're gonna need it
nice rifle but whole bull-pup concept is questionable , what about reloading mags (not as quick as with normal rifles) ,what about high rate of fire .. rifle gets hot so you will burn your face or just stop fight or what?
The Kel-Tec brand is a price point brand. This means that things like design, metallurgy and components are of lower quality. All brands have certain amount of issues, even the Sig-Sauer, Smith and Wesson, Beretta, CZ's of the world. However, the incidence of issues, pale in comparison to the Kel-Tec which are notorious for failures. When Kel-Tec is adopted by a military (not third world), then I'll then give me a call. Until then, buyer beware...you get what you pay for.
@cobyson100 So Military adoption proves viability and reliability? You mean like the early M-16 & the slide flinging Beretta M-9? Or the POS British Enfield L-85? Honestly, your ignorance is astounding
@sbd45acp LMAO..you're still the one defending a Kel-Tec...you old know nothing, never was, never will be, wanna be...I know old geezers like you who like to run their yaps and have no clue how clueless you are...go take a shot prune juice , relieve your prostate and get out of the way so we can go to work while you shoot at your little paper and steel targets and think you are now somehow rugged...what a joke....if you don't have the tab, hit the slab old man.
@cobyson100 are you kidding me? who the fuck do you think you are, I bet sbd45acp has had 30x the trigger time you have, you think he doesnt know what hes talking about and you know everything? damn the ignorance in todays youth,, how much trigger time have you had on the military grade m16? how much on the m9? go back to your grandmas basement and continue playing your video games and promise me you'll never try to operate a real firearm,
@SIGsogger I see you're in grandp's camp, "trigger time" eh? What a joke..kinda like the old geezer who spends all day at the golf range, think's he know's everything there is about golf but has never entered a true golf tournament. I'm tired of all you wanna be's...want some trigger time...go sign up for some real trigger time overseas. OH>>>>that's right...you and grandps are too fat ...can't take the heat...stay safe and secure at your range....shooting at your little paper or steel targets.
@sbd45acp.....your are so right grandp's, we should replace the M-9 and the M-16 with Kel-Tec products..I'm sure my old buddies over there would be so appreciative of your recommendation...you are so smart.......uhhm...grandps....remember to take your meds everyday, and maybe a double dose for the "crazies" today.
@hubergeek because the quality control with KT's are notorious. I predict this weapon would last less than half a day in a full on Military Trial....if that long. Don't believe me..call up a tech over at FN and see how hard he laughs when you ask him to compare the Kel-Tec to the FN.
@cobyson100 I rather like it, both the function and the look of it. Beats the hell out of a Yugo rifle, thier SKS and AK versions just look stupid compared to others to me.
the one thing I hate about this rifle is that if you run&gun you will slip and fall on the shells that spill out in front of you with that bogus forward ejection design! what the hell is wrong with side ejection??????????
@Plur307 Great point - can't stress that enough. Firing a bullpup isn't very pleasant even if you are right handed because of that ejection noise next to your ear.
Plus, if a round decides to grenade, there aren't many options other than "get hurt". With this gun, the RFB, a front ejection allows KT to put TWO steel plates over the chamber. If a .308 grenades it sucks, but in this instance, the pressure is directed down through the magazine well, and not right in the face of the shooter.
@TROOPERfarcry I think the words you're looking for are having a "catatstrophic failure" instead of "grenades". You don't want to have one regardless of two steel plates OR having the pressure vented down onto the magazine well either on a bullpup type rifle. Too close to your torso, yada yada.
@rangerstubbs76 Heh - damn straight I don't want a round 'grenading' next to me. I agree completely it would be, at the least, unpleasant. Still, I'm just saying that compared to any other bullpup (besides the P90 and the FN2000), the ejection port prevents any form of armoring over the chamber.
It isn't an absolute gaurantee of safety, but its at least 2-steel-layers more than competitors' designs.
yea being a lefty not only are the ejected rounds distracting and annoying, but they can also burn the hell out of your face. I would much prefer to shoot something with the rounds ejected out the front.
@altops Seriously!? You are going to slip/ trip and fall over a FEW WARM FIRED .308 SHELL CASINGS AT YOUR FEET!?!? How in world has every M60, M240, M249, RPD, RPK, PKM, M2HB, M-1917, BAR, et al, Gunner and assistant gunner and everybody around them managed to avoid this problem for the last 50 plus years?Soft front ejection solves so many more real problems than the perceived "created " problems
settle everyone...this is a Kel-Tec...it's a trailer trash brand...if you're stupid enough to buy a kel-tec, please call me, I have a ski resort in Tucson I'd love to sell you.
@cobyson100 You understand the discussion here is about firearms ..right?So the firearms brand that you use have never had QC problems or produced a real lemon. And you are better and smarter than all the :Trailer Trash" out there cause YOU only use "quality" products like.... Toyota, Right?!
@cobyson100 What is your problem little one? Did someone at Kel Tec touch you inappropriately? OK- We get it, you don't like Kel Tec. You keep blathering on that the brand is trash but you don't seem to have any facts or enough intelligence to articulate what is wrong with them.
@cobyson100 Cont.-So what are the advantages of the firearms line that YOU designed & built and the company named after You is currently shipping? Either offer some solid criticism based on your vast experience or shut your pathetic, ignorant, Internet troll mouth.
@sbd45acp wow...someone hit a nerve...it seems someone with the username sbd45acp must have bought a kel-tec and brand pride is eating at him..seems like someone is thin in the wallet and had to SETTLE for a Kel-Tec... grow up and get yourself a real firearm or go back to the kiddy's table and shut the f up.
@cobyson100 Lower quality components-Like Poly frame like Glock & Stainless steel like Sig & Smith & Wesson? You have never actually FIRED a Kel-Tec much less owned one and tested it against another manufacturer-have you
You have good points & bad points with any weapon system. The 5.56 is far from super powerful, but you can carry over 1000 rounds for it, it's accurate & the recoil is light. .308 is powerful but hard to control, best not to go full auto. You'd have the confidence of power w/ .308 & you'd have confidence of numbers with 5.56. I'd go with 5.56 to keep enemy's heads down while the mortars or Apaches tracked em down and blew em up.
any one know where i can get this a decent price online? thanks.
akcan100 1 day ago
that thing looks like it has a shit tun of recoil
jones10395 2 weeks ago
I saw this rifle at our local gun shop and knew I had to have it!! I'm picking it up today :D
bandages13 3 weeks ago
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sailwed1 3 weeks ago
Ever notice you can never find Kel Tec guns anywhere forsale? They need to crank up production on a few of thier models.
omnisurvival 3 months ago
the recoil is different not bad... most people are used to the recoil coming from 8 - 10 inches infront of where a bullpup produces the kick. the result is a gun that pushes more energy into the shoulder and less vertical rise. If you learn how to shoot the gun you can achieve much faster follow up Target Acquisition. I personally am a fan of the bullpup over the conventional rifle set up.
navyboy160 3 months ago
is this a 308 cal.. pretty powerfull
sprig3432 4 months ago
Do you think it's better than the FN F2000 as far as design? It looks a little light, like it kicked pretty good. My buddy Blackriflear15 and I have been trying to deside if we should get one.
TacticalAR15Master 4 months ago
@TacticalAR15Master just get one
shawn4201111 2 weeks ago
whats the song?
TheRedLiquor 4 months ago
I wonder if those spent casings ever build up enough to cause a FTE
VolunteerMinimum 5 months ago
the shell ejection makes the gun look like its crapping.
Hey573 5 months ago 4
@Hey573 poor design
aurakilla1 2 weeks ago
What happens when the ejection port gets filled with sand or dried mud
jacksonbd4286 6 months ago
Kel-Tec has come along ways.This really is a awesome design.
USAdude30 6 months ago
If your arm is getting 'catching' the brass coming out. You're doing something wrong.
Royisme 6 months ago
That is bad ass recoil, bad gun.
psychorgy 6 months ago 2
That Is One Mean Dad.
carbonsteelblade 7 months ago
Why would you put music to this?
Jeffmtbr 8 months ago
DAMN I WANT THIS GUN
coreycochran95 9 months ago 7
looks like its talking a shit
garytang182 9 months ago
Cannot understand why anyone would want to eject spent, hot cartridges that come into contact with the supporting arm.
Khiscage 10 months ago
Nice so do you try to shoot the target with the round casings?
HEDSHOT 10 months ago
mute.
dannydecka94 10 months ago
The gun seemed very wobbly idk if I'd use a bullpup .308
Kar98kurtz 10 months ago
What happens if you shoot up? Looks like the shells won't be ejected properly...
gforce212 11 months ago
@gforce212 They would stack in the ejection tube and eventually get pushed out one by one
mruler360 10 months ago
brass ejection looks mad sketchy. wouldnt trust that in combat lol a lil mud or grass in that whole and you have a mess
awsomeshot 11 months ago
Holy shit a real life DMR!
GroovyBryan 11 months ago
i really want one of these, and for those saying about the recoil, what do you expect from a rifle chambered in .308 its crazy fire power
theKfizzle 11 months ago
Yikes, it has the kickback of a shotgun. I am still waiting for their promised 223 version of this rifle to buy it and the various length barrels.
dbui72 11 months ago
Highly unbalanced weapon! Cool looking though!
bigbunsnightrunner 11 months ago
shells were you walk mite be a issue?
gasdorf 1 year ago
recoil was eating ur balls
urdufoo 1 year ago
recoil is kinda rough
IndoAtheist 1 year ago
A lot of lead going downrange.
Robbaz 1 year ago
recoil much
chirochrome 1 year ago
It's a dead shame they denied this gun military use by designing it with the front ejection system....
Wilbertvdl 1 year ago
@Wilbertvdl well FN 2000 has front ejection too and it is used by some european military.
papaburger 1 year ago
looks like summin off halo
chimpamovies 1 year ago
looks like summin off halo
chimpamovies 1 year ago
Thumbs down since I can't hear the original audio.
XxnoitcelferxX 1 year ago
finally a AR who is using 7,62 NATO not that like powerless 5,56 NATO
AlmightyBongholio 1 year ago
@AlmightyBongholio actually it isnt an assault rifle, its a battle rifle.
ArebearFTW 1 year ago
@ArebearFTW ok but it is fucking awesome
AlmightyBongholio 1 year ago
I wonder how easily the ejection mechanism might get jammed… A gun that does not fire is of no use.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Thanks for the insight.
sudburyfitness 10 months ago
Cool rifle! Like the music too! Who's th' group, and th' name of th' song?
Shadowfax424 1 year ago
crazy recoil
TakeYouToSchool 1 year ago
quit with the music wanna here it + music is gay
beaverskater702 1 year ago
i like how the shells are ejected from the front. just a little different
ZombieManiax 1 year ago
Yep, great gun but a shame I can't sit through that noise, someone thinks is music, has anyone ever tried to tip the gun back to see that the ejection will continue even if uphill?
Rick58Rowland 1 year ago
as much as i love the sa80, i think the best ambidex bullpup is the FAMAS, only thing i dont like is the massive carry handle
zebadee277 1 year ago
Nice compact outfit for sure, handling the .308 in the bull pup feature is hard for quick target acquisition during following up .
I like it, however ;-) ;-)
FrenchRevenge 1 year ago
Still say that the .308 is too much for this rifle, put a break on it or something.
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AtotheP7 1 year ago
recoils a little heavy
sasquatch4liffee 1 year ago
@sasquatch4liffee Yeah it looks surprisingly heavy.
cyberslick18 1 year ago
i would trade up my FN FAL for one of those...and i LOVE my FAL
MrDarkwolf1995 1 year ago
@MrDarkwolf1995 NOOOO the FAL is a classic, dont trade
zebadee277 1 year ago
Looks like that gun is kicking his ass =(
Vernonu9 1 year ago
IN CQB YOU WOULD BE SLIPPING ON CASINGS NO?
SWEET RIFLE THOUGH
EASTENDGLEN 1 year ago
@EASTENDGLEN better than eating brass like you would be if you had to transition shoulders on a traditional bullpup
johnpatrick818 1 year ago
@EASTENDGLEN good point
mjdietle 1 year ago
@mjdietle thx haha maybe if it fired them (brass) faster below barrel site trajectory
EASTENDGLEN 1 year ago
Cool gun, looks like it has some issues with spitting out the empty shells though. Not worth my weapon getting jammed in combat tbh.
iTailsTheStunter 1 year ago
@iTailsTheStunter i dont think they would ever jam in there just cause they werent expelled all the out if you notice theres many empty casings behind the one thats acutally coming out the end and even it it doesnt come all the way out i bet the next one come out rite behind the last. watch when he reloads it shoots like 4 out when he cocks it. but then again never handled this or no anything about this gun i just think is it jammed that easy the wouldnt made it in that design in this day in age
mjdietle 1 year ago
@mjdietle from wat i can see of this design it is pretty reliable even with the foward ejection of spent casings check out the fn f2000 it uses the same system an is proven to be reliable.although it is a 5.56 instead of a 308 like the kel-tec here lol
gunman3006m 1 year ago
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mjdietle 1 year ago
they made the shells come out the front so you dont have to sweep them up at the range hahaha...good idea
ToadWonglers 1 year ago
you can see the rifle twist from the torque of the rifling.
pfiberoptik 1 year ago
Well, hello there, you beautiful, civilian-only machine! *writes down on Christmas list*
KoronofHearts 1 year ago
i bet that gun kicks like a bitch
williammeridith 1 year ago
Great looking gun. Shitty music why didnt you put the original sound?
Silver00Coin 1 year ago 24
@Silver00Coin
what band is that?
mckeedmason 1 year ago
is that teh dmr in halo reach?
droid550i 1 year ago
I dont like how it spits the rounds out the front, that would be irritating >.<
bushpigification 1 year ago
@bushpigification Not if you reload what you shoot. It's awesome! All the cases in a nice pile in front of the gun instead of thrown all over the fucking range. It's genius!
bcoverss 1 year ago
@bcoverss Yeah cus someone whos using that in a firefight is really going to stop, pick up there spent rounds and reload them... cool story bro :)
bushpigification 1 year ago
@bushpigification A firefight, LOL!!! Considering how often that happens in reality it's not likely to be a problem. Oh course if your in Detroit it might be a concern.
bcoverss 1 year ago
dmr from reach
JakeSeal23 1 year ago
you can ditch the music.
Amiga3000 1 year ago
he looks like a pissed off office worker about to go postal
Gar455 1 year ago
It looks like he's gettin surprise buttsex when he shoots it. Look at him lauch back with all the recoil.
Flaggedagain 1 year ago
@Flaggedagain Well, um....yeah, it IS a .308. Ever notice how most battle rifles only go semi or burst?
KoronofHearts 1 year ago
Nice design but I can see many possible jamming areas...
Mabder1 1 year ago
Call of duty nerd: That sucks, compared to M16 holographic!!
xPivotamx 1 year ago
thats the worst music i've ever heard. If you could even call it music. It's garbage. But the gun is nice.
chemicalsweet13 1 year ago
Nice rifle! I saw it on the wbesite and it's like 1500 bucks! Well...certainly cheaper than a brand new Fn Fal
BlueCollarSurvival 1 year ago
i dont like how there is a bullet mark on the wall basically where he is standing ! someone was defo trying too shoot some one ahha
warrenfieldcres 1 year ago
nice trijicon
guncrazy143 1 year ago
would love to see a hmr .17 bull pup I think they sell like pancake.
creesugarbaby 1 year ago
how was the grouping ?
papaburger 1 year ago
@papaburger These guns will shoot 1 moa with good ammo, Like black hills sniper, or hornady tap.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Nice bullpup. But for god sakes. Handle that recoil! I don't see how you could hit a damn thing consistently bouncing around like that. Man up and lean into that shit.
bamdizzle08 1 year ago
@bamdizzle08 The Truth, this post has it.
Choncer 1 year ago
@Choncer Jedi, you must be.
Lol
bamdizzle08 1 year ago
I agree with Cash, the 308 round is way too much for a carbine, it's definetely more suited for long range in the prone position. I shot an 308 HK that was converted into a carbine with a collapsable stock, and let's just say it was a very unpleasant experience.
MUSBFRANK 1 year ago
@MUSBFRANK oh grow a pair, you want pain try a galil .308 without a rubber buttpad, the cetme's and H&K's do kick hard so I'll give ya that, but ya don't know pain from a .308 untill you have the misfortune of firing a galil in it's original pattern.
Don't take this seriously I'm just pokin' fun at ya I know hoe hard the g93's kick and it's NOT "fun" and yeah you're right .308 isn't meant for carbine use, the shortest barrel I would ever consider putting on one is 18" .
reignick1133 1 year ago
@reignick1133 LOL, yeah right, the only thing I grew after shooting that HK was a bruise on my shoulder. I used to want a Galil, well, atleast when they were legal to obtain out here in the great Republik of Kalifornia, but any of those AK style weapons don't interest me anymore, although I would gladly take a Russian Dragunov SVD any day.
MUSBFRANK 1 year ago
@MUSBFRANK heh yeah I hear ya , the Dragunov (not the Romak 3) is a nice piece of kit, and while I won't lie and say the G93 is anything less than bruising,or try to be an "internet toughguy" after my shooting session with the Galil I had felt as if Mike Tyson punched m shoulder off.
I guess it's part of the reason I want a RFB it seems to have far less recoil then either of those beasts.
Good luck and godspeed!
reignick1133 1 year ago
what if i want o shoot someone with high angle,!
tarek1982 1 year ago
Gotta do something about that ejection, man.... It's just too funky.
razgriz4977 1 year ago
strange way of ejecting the rounds
lukefromdownunder 1 year ago
@lukefromdownunder Strange, but useful.
Moosezorz 1 year ago
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO MAKES THIS SONG????!!!!!!
landgrader6 1 year ago
@landgrader6 My SoundHound App on iphone tells me it's "4U" by Brian Cross
xitzChann 1 year ago
Nice gun... who is the artist for this song?
germanx17 1 year ago
gay song
Razersun 1 year ago
This man needs more meat on his bones
bamboo123chewer 1 year ago
thid guy sucks with recoil
synysterguitartist7x 1 year ago
looks like the dmr from reach. same caliber and everything
snipergus14 1 year ago
The reciol is worth the knockdown power of a .308
IronLion27 1 year ago
looks like it's got alot of kick for a little gun.
Toxicgoth 1 year ago
Looks like Kel tec rechambered the FN F2000 in .308
ImWatchinTheTube 1 year ago
god its only a 308 and their getting nocked around like pansys
reloader2208 1 year ago
lol its like shitting shells outa its mouth.
StunnedMutha 1 year ago 19
@StunnedMutha Same set-up as the FN FS-2000. It's actually a great little idea. Eliminates lefties having brass thrown across their faces and ejecting hot brass cases on your squadmate at your side. Also allows for containing several spent cases in case the job requires no evidence be left behind. And for those civilians it makes collecting your spent brass a whole lot easier, its all in a neat pile in front of you!
sgunn911 1 year ago
@StunnedMutha not funny
TheXoXSarahXoX 1 year ago
@StunnedMutha The ejection of rounds are through a tube on top of the barrel. The cases just stack on top of one another rather than being propelled out with any significant force. Its one of the reason why Kel urges its users to refrain from manually cycling rounds, it takes only one bullet tip to hit the primer on the lodged case in front of it to set off an explosion.
R5H4D0W 11 months ago
So it actually just poops out the casings? lol Kel-Tec, why the butthole gun?
sittingbull09 1 year ago
I'll sum it up. The Kel tec is a nice rifle but not military grade IMO. Would I own one? Yeh, why not? Would I take it on a high risk "no knock" warrant? Probably not. New designs have bugs that need to be worked out. I don't think there are enough of them out there just yet to show all potention problems so far through hard use. It's possible that nothing may show up but I don't want to be the one to have a problem when shit goes bad. For the record there is NOTHING wrong with 5.56.
GLOCKCOPG23 1 year ago
That gun is just a little bit too much for that man to handle. Nice gun though.
endless297 1 year ago
makes a lot of since though.... that way it wont be spitting hot residue on your face if your a lefty and u wont be spitting shells down a persons back if your next to someone.
308hitman308 1 year ago
pretty cool, but the election port setup looks like its asking for a jam
ocrag 1 year ago
i liked the video
letstalkdirty1 1 year ago
its like a f200 just with a bigger caliber
penguinskater123 1 year ago
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.as noted...you get what you pay for and yes...I have shot many Kel-Tec's and cannot remember one time where I didn't have a missfeed or malfunction of some kind within 50 rounds. I also found them to be ergonomically inferior and innacurate compared to premium brands. For those who want to compare the polymers and components of a Kel-Tec and a Sig and not recognize the fit and finish aspects not to mention things like braided springs an specific alloys need to go back to armorer school.
cobyson100 1 year ago
.as noted...you get what you pay for and yes...I have shot many Kel-Tec's and cannot remember one time where I didn't have a missfeed or malfunction of some kind within 50 rounds. I also found them to be ergonomically inferior and innacurate compared to premium brands. For those who want to compare the polymers and components of a Kel-Tec and a Sig and not recognize the fit and finish aspects not to mention things like braided springs an specific alloys need to go back to armorer school.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 If Kel-Tec is "Trailer Trash"&(we assume) beneath contempt by someone of your intellect & social standing.Then exactly why is it you shoot so MANY of them 50 rounds or MORE?What are PREMIUM brands?Specifically ,what Specific alloys?BRAIDED SPRINGS? My cheap Romanian AKs have "braided" hammer springs, but my SIG 210 has none, I guess the SIG is junk right?Please little one,stop trying to sound gun knowledgeable&gun snobbish as it is painfully obvious you are talking out your arse
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp this isn't about the kel-tec, this is about someone challenging your judgement when it comes to your choice of weapon brand. You defending Kel-Tec is like you defending your Yugo at the Indy 500. The only one who doesn't know how foolish the whole argument is are the tons of yugo fans who followed you there! LMAO
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 @cobyson100 Read my posts little one. I never stated Kel-Tec was MY brand.I will gladly defend my weapon choices as a paid shooting professional for the past 30 years-You? Didn't think so.You bash Kel-Tec & KT owners as "Trailer Trash" and when pressed for proof you have nothing but your opinion & we know what opinions are like. Your juvenile,non humorous attempts to make some bizarre comparison to Yugo and Indy cars -Fail.I don't drive a Yugo & don't race Indy.
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp OMG..Professional shooting? Really, that's how you make a living? Why don't you share your most recent results and the check you made? I know a lot of passionate, bone head gun enthusiasts who don't know sh*t. They all seem to like Kel-Tec's. LMAO...time to retire grandpa.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 You're a sad little fellow cobyson. You don't even recognize your repeated failures to offer any facts, & when pressed, you resort to pitiful name calling. The last match I shot, this afternoon, I won. Got no paycheck for it. I am a passionate, bone head gun enthusiast, and I may not know sh*t. But if you want to meet at the range and shoot Man-vs-Man on steel against me- you just name the time and place-maybe you can be the one to retire grandpa.. I dare you
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp ten years, 3 tabs...i don't pretend for a living..."wanna - be " grandpa.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 Not up for it little one? Why am I not surprised. Why don't you stay in for another 15 and maybe you'll be up for it. I've trained ignorant little snots like you. You don't even know what you don't know yet, and you don't like being reminded that you can't shoot. There is nothing about you, that I, or any one I know... "wanna-be".Good night little one, time to go night -night. Good bye & Good luck with your life... you're gonna need it
sbd45acp 1 year ago
whats the name of this song?
AJKHospy 1 year ago
nice rifle but whole bull-pup concept is questionable , what about reloading mags (not as quick as with normal rifles) ,what about high rate of fire .. rifle gets hot so you will burn your face or just stop fight or what?
ww2footage 1 year ago
The Kel-Tec brand is a price point brand. This means that things like design, metallurgy and components are of lower quality. All brands have certain amount of issues, even the Sig-Sauer, Smith and Wesson, Beretta, CZ's of the world. However, the incidence of issues, pale in comparison to the Kel-Tec which are notorious for failures. When Kel-Tec is adopted by a military (not third world), then I'll then give me a call. Until then, buyer beware...you get what you pay for.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 So Military adoption proves viability and reliability? You mean like the early M-16 & the slide flinging Beretta M-9? Or the POS British Enfield L-85? Honestly, your ignorance is astounding
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp LMAO..you're still the one defending a Kel-Tec...you old know nothing, never was, never will be, wanna be...I know old geezers like you who like to run their yaps and have no clue how clueless you are...go take a shot prune juice , relieve your prostate and get out of the way so we can go to work while you shoot at your little paper and steel targets and think you are now somehow rugged...what a joke....if you don't have the tab, hit the slab old man.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 are you kidding me? who the fuck do you think you are, I bet sbd45acp has had 30x the trigger time you have, you think he doesnt know what hes talking about and you know everything? damn the ignorance in todays youth,, how much trigger time have you had on the military grade m16? how much on the m9? go back to your grandmas basement and continue playing your video games and promise me you'll never try to operate a real firearm,
SIGsogger 1 year ago
@SIGsogger I see you're in grandp's camp, "trigger time" eh? What a joke..kinda like the old geezer who spends all day at the golf range, think's he know's everything there is about golf but has never entered a true golf tournament. I'm tired of all you wanna be's...want some trigger time...go sign up for some real trigger time overseas. OH>>>>that's right...you and grandps are too fat ...can't take the heat...stay safe and secure at your range....shooting at your little paper or steel targets.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@sbd45acp.....your are so right grandp's, we should replace the M-9 and the M-16 with Kel-Tec products..I'm sure my old buddies over there would be so appreciative of your recommendation...you are so smart.......uhhm...grandps....remember to take your meds everyday, and maybe a double dose for the "crazies" today.
cobyson100 1 year ago
i hate the ejector on this rifle, I've never fired one but it looks like it could jam easily
DanielJosephTV 1 year ago
He stole that weapon from Master Chief:))
Arkanii1 1 year ago
you know that drooling over this rifle is like drooling over a Yugo
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 Why?
hubergeek 1 year ago
@hubergeek because the quality control with KT's are notorious. I predict this weapon would last less than half a day in a full on Military Trial....if that long. Don't believe me..call up a tech over at FN and see how hard he laughs when you ask him to compare the Kel-Tec to the FN.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 I rather like it, both the function and the look of it. Beats the hell out of a Yugo rifle, thier SKS and AK versions just look stupid compared to others to me.
rangerstubbs76 1 year ago
pobre tipo se da una zarandeada que haga pesas le falta fuerza en el antebrazo
redikopl 1 year ago
the one thing I hate about this rifle is that if you run&gun you will slip and fall on the shells that spill out in front of you with that bogus forward ejection design! what the hell is wrong with side ejection??????????
altops 1 year ago
Ask a lefty! he'll tell you all about firing a bullpup with side eject after he tends to the burns on his cheek!
Raycing 1 year ago
BULL CRAP , micro Tech RIFLE COME WITH REVERSIBLE EJECTION PORT!
altops 1 year ago
Even with it ejecting from the other side of the rifle I have heard the gas coming out of the ejection port is not pleasant to your face/ears.
Plur307 1 year ago
I never heard that complaint, hope to test that theory soon.
altops 1 year ago
@Plur307 Great point - can't stress that enough. Firing a bullpup isn't very pleasant even if you are right handed because of that ejection noise next to your ear.
Plus, if a round decides to grenade, there aren't many options other than "get hurt". With this gun, the RFB, a front ejection allows KT to put TWO steel plates over the chamber. If a .308 grenades it sucks, but in this instance, the pressure is directed down through the magazine well, and not right in the face of the shooter.
TROOPERfarcry 1 year ago
@TROOPERfarcry I think the words you're looking for are having a "catatstrophic failure" instead of "grenades". You don't want to have one regardless of two steel plates OR having the pressure vented down onto the magazine well either on a bullpup type rifle. Too close to your torso, yada yada.
rangerstubbs76 1 year ago
@rangerstubbs76 Heh - damn straight I don't want a round 'grenading' next to me. I agree completely it would be, at the least, unpleasant. Still, I'm just saying that compared to any other bullpup (besides the P90 and the FN2000), the ejection port prevents any form of armoring over the chamber.
It isn't an absolute gaurantee of safety, but its at least 2-steel-layers more than competitors' designs.
TROOPERfarcry 1 year ago
yea being a lefty not only are the ejected rounds distracting and annoying, but they can also burn the hell out of your face. I would much prefer to shoot something with the rounds ejected out the front.
iissouthpaw 1 year ago
like I said before, Micotech makes theirs with a reversible ejection port.
altops 1 year ago
@altops Seriously!? You are going to slip/ trip and fall over a FEW WARM FIRED .308 SHELL CASINGS AT YOUR FEET!?!? How in world has every M60, M240, M249, RPD, RPK, PKM, M2HB, M-1917, BAR, et al, Gunner and assistant gunner and everybody around them managed to avoid this problem for the last 50 plus years?Soft front ejection solves so many more real problems than the perceived "created " problems
sbd45acp 1 year ago
Pretty bad recoil
dcb1138 1 year ago
settle everyone...this is a Kel-Tec...it's a trailer trash brand...if you're stupid enough to buy a kel-tec, please call me, I have a ski resort in Tucson I'd love to sell you.
cobyson100 1 year ago
Trailer trash? Guess that's why they have stayed in business for 20 plus years and Ruger ripped off their design for the LCP?
sbd45acp 1 year ago
LMAO...i love it when the trailer trash try to defend the quality of their MOBILE HOMES
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 You understand the discussion here is about firearms ..right?So the firearms brand that you use have never had QC problems or produced a real lemon. And you are better and smarter than all the :Trailer Trash" out there cause YOU only use "quality" products like.... Toyota, Right?!
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp OMG 20 WHOLE years! WOW.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 What is your problem little one? Did someone at Kel Tec touch you inappropriately? OK- We get it, you don't like Kel Tec. You keep blathering on that the brand is trash but you don't seem to have any facts or enough intelligence to articulate what is wrong with them.
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@cobyson100 Cont.-So what are the advantages of the firearms line that YOU designed & built and the company named after You is currently shipping? Either offer some solid criticism based on your vast experience or shut your pathetic, ignorant, Internet troll mouth.
sbd45acp 1 year ago
@sbd45acp wow...someone hit a nerve...it seems someone with the username sbd45acp must have bought a kel-tec and brand pride is eating at him..seems like someone is thin in the wallet and had to SETTLE for a Kel-Tec... grow up and get yourself a real firearm or go back to the kiddy's table and shut the f up.
cobyson100 1 year ago
@cobyson100 Lower quality components-Like Poly frame like Glock & Stainless steel like Sig & Smith & Wesson? You have never actually FIRED a Kel-Tec much less owned one and tested it against another manufacturer-have you
sbd45acp 1 year ago
finally...someone figured out the ejecting shells issue.
JustGofin 1 year ago
omg that looks like the br from halo,but real!
joshodst 1 year ago
You have good points & bad points with any weapon system. The 5.56 is far from super powerful, but you can carry over 1000 rounds for it, it's accurate & the recoil is light. .308 is powerful but hard to control, best not to go full auto. You'd have the confidence of power w/ .308 & you'd have confidence of numbers with 5.56. I'd go with 5.56 to keep enemy's heads down while the mortars or Apaches tracked em down and blew em up.
oeyesea 1 year ago
heard this thing kicks like a mule, especially because its made of mostly polymer
fdfd434343 1 year ago
Holy shit that recoil is massive..... What is that a 7.62 nato?
DeltaWinters88 1 year ago
That's pretty much what .308 is.
SamHagagaga 1 year ago
lawl I just failed I didn't read the title xD feel free to give this comment thumbs down xD rofl
DeltaWinters88 1 year ago
nazi musik yeehh!!
kidri0t 1 year ago