Galileo part 2

[kaveda1983]

In this part the preast was right. Just because Galileo could pruve some of Aristatles' teachings wrong doesn't pruve that the Earth revolves the sun. In all honesty by modern acadamian standers Galileo jumped to alot of conclusions that whern't alwas right. Also before my religen is brote into this I'm atheist so there is no religene clouding my judgement when I say that Galileos' Scientific methed at times was slopy.

[Mw1Am]

Blasphemus video this is. We surround the spaghetti monster. All hail king noodle, Ramen.

[pythonathlete]

thankyou somebody understands..... Galileo knows what he is doing this is the future

[ajlee35]

and listening to all of ya'lls ranting is why Gallilo will ALWAYS be a part of history. his theories are actually proven and you're STILL arguing about it.  sheesh! just shut up and watch the show

[EMovroydis1]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Why don't you people read the true story of what happened instead of watching cartoons?

[vmelkon]

@EMovroydis1 For example, which part is nonsense?

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon most of it. just read the story from the Church's point of view. it's too complicated to discuss on this forum.

[NatureLover987]

@EMovroydis1

Interestingly enough, this isn't a freaking forum. It's a video about Galileo. Take your religious and Church's views somewhere else, eh? Thanks :)

[EMovroydis1]

@NatureLover987 This isn't about Church views. It's about presenting an historical event accurately and fairly. Most 'Christians' will probably agree with this awful cartoon on the Galileo story, many of whom are Catholic unfortunately--only because they accept this bigoted narrative on its face. And so long as there is discussion, this is a forum. It may be interesting to you that it took Kepler and Newton to finally explain how and why heliocentrism worked, but that's not even the whole story.

[vmelkon]

@EMovroydis1 I'm not interested in the Church's point of view just like I am not interested in the defense plea of a murderer or genocidal maniac.

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon Well, it's only your problem if you want to remain a willfully ignorant dunce. But no matter how much you wish to remain unknowledgeable on the matter, the truth is what it is.

[vmelkon]

@EMovroydis1 All I know is that they break their own rules. The prime direction : "do not kill others" "murder is wrong" "treat others the way you want to be treated". Shame on them.

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon No one was killed here. Galileo was not sentenced to death, and he WAS given a thorough trial. Nonetheless, the Church has never been against lawful execution. Second, I don't see where "treat others the way you want to be treated" comes in here. Galileo was not treated unjustly or uncharitably. He was an obnoxious empiricist who sought to destroy traditional metaphysics for his own personal glory, and on account of what at that time was an incomplete and unproven theory.

[vmelkon]

@EMovroydis1 I never said that they killed Galileo, but that was their plan. Anyone who disagrees with them, gets killed off. They have done it to many others. The truth has never been important even though Galileo had proof. Fortunately, Galileo is not alone. There are many others who were interested in learning and observing and thus times have changed thanks to them.

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon His arguments were not thorough, i.e., he hadn't constructed a proof. He saw what he saw through the telescope, and was himself convinced, but he couldn't force everyone to believe him so as to overturn the ancient model of the universe. The Church was not against the truth, they were simply operating very conservatively, and Galileo was looking to subvert the working established order through a barrage of printed material that was not thorough. The Church had the right to stop him.

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon It's an absurd belief that the Church was looking to murder seekers of truth, even in empirical science. Just consider all of the brilliant scientists the Church produced, particularly those great scientists in the Jesuit order who contributed much even to Newton's theories. The Church hadn't continued to deny heliocentrism even as you must know.

[vmelkon]

@EMovroydis1 It's not absurd. People in power do everything they can to protect it. It is in the nature of leaders to be bullies. Yes, there are priests who made good discoveries. Anyway, in the end, you can interpret history the way you want and I can interpret the way I want. I have abandoned religion. I'm guessing your are into it\ and that is fine. Freedom is the most important thing. Galileo just deserved to be free and people should not be killed for their opinions.

[EMovroydis1]

@vmelkon I'm glad you came clean with your libertarianism, which never has, and never will work in practice. The likes of your worship of freedom as the ultimate end has given us much more evil than the house arrest of some arrogant scientist. And it's not only that these priests made good discoveries, they led much of the field, and are living proof that the Church was not opposed to heliocentrism.

[ARP7777777]

@EMovroydis1 Oh? Giorodano Bruno was not burned at the stake for DARING to suggest there were other worlds than this? Wycliffe was not killed for publishing a Bible in English that everyone could understand? The Catholic Church has NEVER admitted in a single mans lifetime to being wrong. Only the long, track of CENTURIES has made it admit it was wrong.

[EMovroydis1]

@ARP7777777 John Wycliff was not killed, his body was dug up and burned after his natural death. And Giordano Bruno was not executed for his astronomy, but for his theological heresies (ie, that Jesus Christ was a magician, and so forth). The Church never admitted it was wrong. John Paul II came out with certain false apologies, but had no business doing so... He was only trying to appease--out of weakness--certain ignoramus atheists like yourself.

[ARP7777777]

@ARP7777777 I AM NOT an atheist!! I am a CHRISTIAN! And Huss was not burned? The St. Bartholomews Day massacre never happened? And Wycliffes body being burned AFTER his death is not sickening to you? OH. . . so the Roman Catholic Church never aplogized, did it? John Paul had no business admitting that the church made HORRIBLE mistakes?

[SANGHELIWARRIOR117]

@EMovroydis1 Uh... You looked it up too, bro.

[EMovroydis1]

@SANGHELIWARRIOR117 not really. It's been a while, but i forgot why i stumbled upon this video.

[cherrybomb921]

this is why i have problems with organized religions.

[anthcybo]

Aristotle was kind of a fucking idiot if you really think about it, he was wrong about everything.

[thescorpionking2020]

oh these religions hav retarded human progress 4 so long

[tokyopiglet]

yes science and ignorance from erronious religious intrepretation have been fighting...

darwin, genom theory of sexial orientation, lepropsy, hiv virus, and natural disaster..

[PrayerWarrior4]

these church members were control freaks,

pushing and forcing people,

their attitudes do not reflect holiness,

only hypocracy

[NewDie9]

@PrayerWarrior4 I guess thats why there are some people who are Protestant. But don't get me wrong...I'm Catholic.

[PrayerWarrior4]

@NewDie9 LOL that's ok, my bf is Catholic

[SuperMrCRAZYMAN]

@NewDie9 hey science and religion are something that never go together and I being Christan know how stuff works I still believe in god but I also accept the ideas of how minds are affect by stuff and not devils and things like that

[wolfur1]

she did shes awesome

[NatureLover987]

@wolfur1

indeed ;)

lol

replying to a 1 year old comment... ftw

;)

[wolfur1]

@NatureLover987 I dont even know who ´she´ is anymore XD

[wolfur1]

@NatureLover987 Oh you lol yeah thanks for uploading! (1 Year late lol)

[klai2003]

wheres d last part :/ can u pls download the last part? please.. thank u