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  • @couch1511

    Fun fact kid, he said that both are fun. He just said they were like two diffrent genres, he said, and I quote, "Chrono trigger is fun yet is desined to also be silly and funny, while FF7 is also fun but is set to be on the epic side, its not really silly at all" mmmm looking at it it seems like he COMPLIMENTED FF7, dont go raging on the internet when theres nothing to rage at, jerk.

  • @couch1511 Never before have I thought that an opinion could truly be incorrect. FF7, again graphics aside, had very limited gameplayability (yes not a word I know). When ya beat FF7 you've beaten it. But when you've beaten chrono Trigger you've only beaten one out of about ten different endings. Plus I didn't like the main villain with a RAGING oedipus complex.

  • I wonder what the direct translation is from those books u find in Zeal. And if it tells u what role the Nu really plays. B/c some say that the Nu is just an extension of the Entity.

  • @Hcbailly..... you said FF7 isnt chrono trigger.....ummm .....CHRONO TRIGGER IS NOT FF7.....graphics aside... chrono trigger is top 3-5 games for fun.....BUT!.......the amount of "fun" in FF7 totally out ways chrono trigger... 1) alot more to have fun with....2) chrono trigger is 3 ways fun NOT 8+ ways in FF7.... it is an insult to compare the 2... FF7 IS FAR BETTER IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE... still not best rpg... best thats another topic..(no FF anything is the best)

  • @couch1511 It's really opinion, isn't it? Personally, I think Chrono Trigger is loads better than FFF7. In fact, I'm not a very big fan of ff7 to begin with. And it's not really an insult to compare two games. He's just giving his opinion, what's wrong with that?

  • @couch1511 god damn you are so fucking deluded.

  • Sorry but its no fun maxing out.. just do it with only the exp you acquire on the way and I GUARANTEE it'll be much more fun.

  • Wow I dominated the added boss of the ds version but I still cant beat him

  • hey senshidayo i love this game so i kinda hate u

  • I agree with HCBailey, games and movies and entertainment is just too dark nowadays... :(

  • Tim Burton's Batman was dark. I'm just saying.

  • For me a lot of Chrono Trigger's appeal comes from the fact that even though it's marketed as "sillier" than most games from this company, when CT wants to get dark and serious, it doesn't mess around. For me the same is true for Super Metroid and A Link to the Past to some extent.

    Chrono Trigger also feels very "Nintendoey" to me.

  • thats how batman was suppose to be, dark

  • i got pwned by Spekkio in this form on the ds version with Crono, Marle, and Magus and my Crono had his dreamseeker equipped and was doing about 2500 damage per luminaire

  • You sound like Cartman.

  • whos spekkio? sry im still a noob the only characters i realy play as are magus, chrono and ayla:P

  • wowww....did robo heal 999 hp!!!!

  • I just noticed that Magus freaks out with his Arms when he casts dark matter.

  • It appears Magus's Hit-stat actually affects his magic damage; he did ~4000 on level 94 and ~4500 on ** to enemies without resistance with Prism Specs. This is also why his Elemental 2s are more efficient than other characters' maxed out versions.

  • @SindarinElealar Actually, if I recall correctly the Prism Specs helps with ALL forms of damage, not just physical attacks.

  • @ChaosBahamut; Yup. That's what I was talking about, actually.

  • Great job. Thanks for LP-ing the Best. Game. Ever.

  • "we finally get to fight spekkio in his FINAL form as a noob"

    Lol

  • 2274018 Gold

    99 lvl

    ...just 12:30 of playtime, wtf?

  • @julesickdrums

    New Game +

  • "nu" is Dutch for "now"

  • just wondering have you played the ds chrono tigger?  this was a lot of fun to watch.

  • Wow, finally!

    I watched your CT LP completely in the course of 2 days and now I need

    to find my life back!

    One of the greatest LPs ever - if not the best! Thanks, HCBailly!

  • All games begin and end with a Nu.

  • This is the truth, this is what I believe!!

    At least, for now...

  • What happened at the end of the game when Chrono's mom and the cats went into the the time gate? I watched all the videos labeled Chrono Trigger, and never found it. Did it get deleted or something?

  • crono marle and lucca use the epoch to find her

  • Of course, it doesn't matter that Luminaire is better than Dark Matter, since Shock is better than both of them. Robo for the win.

  • Nu is awesome. All things come from Nu, and all things will return to Nu.

    Nu nu nu!!!

  • Nu.

  • And Shock is even better than Luminaire or Dark Matter, eh?

    Nice F*ing clip!

    I'd still like to see the level < 10 Spekkio some day.

  • @SchlossRitter It's a frog if you play DS version it has a bestiary

  • Yep, since I posted that, I did a quick low-level run to Spekkio and fought him. Not as hard as I thought it would be to get through.

  • @SchlossRitter Yeah

  • Notice Robo had the PrismSpecs to maximize damage.

  • Ah, that explains things.

  • A pink nu.. That's just bad ass.

  • Man, fast-forward is indeed a lifesaver. If anything, it's likely to make stuff take LONGER by the game clock, but I got it down to less than an hour and 15 minutes, and probably 30 minutes in real time. And that's for 11 magic tabs (getting the freebie in Medina is totally worth it).

    The most important thing is probably to skip the whole laboratory sequence. You should know the ZABIE code on New Game+, so skip the right elevator, go down the left one, and enter it.

  • I also did the fast-forward thing (today) both to rush through New Game+ and to Level to 99.

    And man, this guy was WAY easier than I anticipated. No instant death attacks? Seriously? Heal Beam (with level ** magic stat for 999 recovery between rounds) and Frog Flare spell quick doom for this guy.

  • In the DS version, Lucca can get a specific piece of equipment (Elemental Aegis) that makes her immune to all elemental magic making her invincible for this battle.

  • holy sh*t i didnt knew spekkio had THAT form O___OUuUuUuU!!!!

  • i never knew it was (Kron-Oh) i thot it was (Kr-Oh-No)

  • Well, if you look up, say, "chronograph", which has the same root, both pronunciations will be listed in most English dictionaries. So either way should be fine.

    The Japanese is clearly a rounded "o" sound, but English doesn't really have a heavily rounded "o" to begin with anyway, which is why English speakers (or Americans, at least) tend to hear "hadouken" as "ha-doo-ken".

  • Who knows if anybody's going to read this, but I'll say it anyways. The reason why media is so dark today is because that's what people want, especially younger people. The thing is that people are being exposed to darker themes at a younger age, so they're growing accustomed to it. It's not that games today are bad, or that people could consider games like Chrono Trigger a bad game just because it's lighthearted. It's simply that people want a little more edge these days.

  • chrono trigger is one of the best RPGs. and while it too is epic, the humor and lighthearted nature of much of the game is cool.

    i agree with you about arts&entertainment becoming more dark.. but i think its just a reflection of the times. 9/11, iraq war, now the financial collapse.. stuff like that has an impact on the arts, too.

    by the way, spekkio is named after the italian word specchio, which means mirror.. which is what he functions as.

  • why doesn'y Ayla have a bronze fist?

  • because iron fist is the final form of her fist weps, she has to be max lvl to get it and it does max damage every attack i think...

  • In the Japanese version, it's like this:

    Kobushi (拳 "fist") - standard fist

    Tekken (鉄拳 "iron fist", and yeah, it's the same kanji as the fighting game series) - randomly confuses enemies

    Gouken (剛拳 "hardened fist", and yeah, it's the same as the SFIV character) - randomly crits for 9999 damage (it's over nine THOUSAND!)

    So iron fist was only the second form for me (though Woolsey may well have changed this - gouken is hard to translate). Also, not every hit is 9999.

  • had alot of fun watching all your episodes! thanks!

  • "The DARK Knight" is dark.

    ... very astute observation, friend.

  • There are just different types of fun. The FF7's fun is different than the CT's fun.

  • Not by much, RPG fun is RPG fun.

  • That's all about opinion dood.

  • So you're saying it's almost the same as comparing final fantasy and halo? Feck no.

    they have at least a similar idea behind them, play-wise, leveling up and such. now, other things may be completely different.

  • Stow the hostility kiddo. I was saying that the fun, an abstract concept  that is difficult to quantify and compare, is about opinion and subjective.

    also, protip: Storytelling Style, Setting, Character Design/Growth and Script are every bit as important as Mechanics of Gameplay.

  • I was just saying.

    ... I apologize for the anger behind my posting, I would blame it on staying up late, but-

    (But that's exactly what it is?)

    No, it's not, you be quiet!... that's only part of it.

  • Cool. But what's with the guy at the end?

  • It's Beetlejuice!

  • You should do the weakest form of Spekkio: the frog form. That is if you manage to do the first part of the game barely leveling up at all.

  • I think you'd have to be under lvl. 10 to get that, but that's impossible, since Robo starts at 10. So unless you hack the game, I doubt it's possible to see it, if it's there at all.

  • I'm not positive, but I think only the leading party member counts.  At that point, Crono.

  • Actually I've done it legit, it's like HC said you have to run from like every battle to fight that form of Spekkio, and even though Robo starts at 10 you can switch him out, also I believe it's average Party lvl so 9 Chrono, 9 female an 10 Robo would equal 28, divided by 3 it's in fact less then 10, even if it's in like the 9 point whatever range.

  • nah, mrm has it right. The average has nothing to do with anything, the lead party member counts.

  • Go to see Spekkio with Crono, Marle and Lucca all at level 9.

    His form is based on highest level in the party, not of the characters in your stable.

  • You can have both of the girls in your team instead of having Robo in the party.

  • you can do more with chrono trigger!!! get the ds version and do the dimensional vortexs and the dream devourer! theres a lot to do!

  • Your fiance sounds like a total babe!

  • yea but its cute, you get to have kittens run through the portal when you beat the game. i mean... KITTENS !!! o m g KITTENS!!!!  :3

  • Chrono Trigger not dark? The world is ENDING in an explosion of FIRE caused by LAVOS!

  • The game is more lighthearted than FFVII in a lot of parts.

  • True, but the fact that a night outdoors is bright compared to inside a pitch black room without any source of light does not make the outdoors at night considered not dark.

  • I did order the original cartridge of Chrono Trigger and have played through it before; I wonder how much of a difference there is with the DS version and if it's worth getting...'

  • It is, trust me it's got more content, better weapons (which you get in the DV, one of them you get as a completion bonus (Dreamseeker))

  • how do i get new game plus? i beat the game with all the side quests done and i did it through the black omen, it made my kitties go through the time portal and then at the very end it was playing marle's theme on a loop. i tried pressing different button combinations, i tried soft resetting, i tried regular ressetting, but the new game plus option never came up. any help?

  • You know HCBailly if you want a game series that's silly like CT you should play the Disgaea games those are HILARIOUS as well as amazing RPGs with LOOOOOOOOADS of hour sucking fun

  • I agree 100% with you on your rants while fighting Spekkio.

  • I Got Chrono Trigger DS for Christmas, too! ^o^ On my 3rd (technically) playthrough now. 2nd I defeated Lavos with Chrono and Marle at the very beginning. Took half my lunch break *or 30 minutes* to do the 2nd form (or as I like to call it the Cell form), but it's worth it. ^-^

  • Well HC, I hope you tell us what you think of the changes made to the dialogue and the item names and tell us which you prefer, the old one or the new one.

    I prefer the old text but that's just me.

    Luckily the game play and item placement hasn't changed and the monster Colosseum in a nice addition. I think they did an excellent job.

  • "Received enough of Spekkio's praise to last a year!"

    Awesome.

  • I was hoping to get Chrono Trigger for DS, but instead I got Kirby Super Star Ultra. That's a pretty solid game too, though.

  • I thought you were unable to return to the Geno Dome after you did that sidequest.

  • This is probably a New Game+, and in this runthrough, he didn't finish it.

  • Chrono Trigger DS? Sweeeeeeeeeet. (I indirectly got that for Christmas, too. N'ya ha hah.)

    And nice ending. XD Beetlejuice FTW. Love that line.

  • That's kinda funny how he gives you ten of each type of tab, when you're already at level 99...

  • Ironman was pretty silly, which is the first reason why I'm stoked for the eventual "Avengers" movie (featuring characters and movie stars from the upcoming flicks).

  • Farewell Chrono Trigger. Parting is such sweet sorrow... :(

  • I will not say you are a great role-player, because i bet there are lot of peoples that says that!!

  • I agree with you about all the movie stuff and everything being so dark. Heh, awesome beetlejuice clip.

  • I've been waiting for it. Wow, level stars! Pink Spekkio?? Congrats on finally finishing CT.

  • no offense mate, but it sounds like u had somethin in your mouth like a retainer or it wasn't in or something, u sound diff while u commentate on ff7.....u had something done or somethin? :P

  • i'm glad i went back to watching you're videos up to this piont my laptop had a melt down.Well not really it just broke great walkthrough h.c. btw i beat final fantasy 7 first disc for the first time the ending i chocked up a little sa no more .. lol great vids

  • I loved watching this lp.

  • the only not dark games out their now are like LBP that didnt sell well, (most of)nintendos 1st party, and rachet and clank

  • Maybe playing Spore is what you want to do, HC... it is not a difficult game (or very challenging) but it is really silly at some points. And you look like the kind of person why is weird enough to actually do everything in all of the phases.

  • Very Very immpressive. CT is my favorite game and that is something I could not accomplish.

  • Congrats on getting CT for the DS! I think they did a great job on the remake myself, with all the bonus stuff...

  • i wish they didn't change some of the things *that pissed me off*

  • Does Spekkio have some insane magic defense?

    Because the damage from those spells is pathetic. :x

  • That he does, the highest in the game. I was shocked they did over a thousand each.

  • That's some Magic and Magic Defense stats on him. Even though your own stats were maxed he still did a lot of damage to you and you didn't do that much to him. I want to see how strong everyone's attacks are against more normal enemies.

  • So, now you have Chrono Trigger on the DS? I got it the day it came out!

  • I have yet to defeat this form in the DS version. I'm only Level 67 on average.

  • I have Chrono Trigger for the DS and it is fun. It has the un-used battle song too! Considering that I am from Europe and they don't have chrono trigger (until now that is) it's cool to own a copy. Happy new year HCBaily great job! can you show us the OVER 9000 DAMAGE ATTACK? sorry couldn't resist lol.

  • I got Chrono trigger ds too =D

  • Wow i did 2 its fun im near end

  • I got Chrono Trigger for Christmas too! Thank you so much for doing this LP because otherwise I never would've found out about this game and it's definitely one of the most fun games I've ever played.

  • Wow, you came back with the video.. I didn't know if you'd actually do that.

    HC, you are incredibly reliable. That's wicked impressive, especially in the internet. :D

  • You the whole point of Berkely was that it was deadpan. another RPG that has some humor in it is Magical Starsign, which while being a bad game, the only thing it had going for it was it humor.

  • I got Chrono Trigger DS for Christmas. It's my very first time playing the game, and it's awesome! I now know why Chrono Trigger is known as the one of the greatest RPGs ever.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR HCBAILLY AND EVERYONE ON YOUTUBE! =D

  • i also got chrono trigger ds for Christmas but something is wrong. for some reason i cant go to the past in the beginning of the game

  • Thats weird, its an anti piracy measure, maybe yours isnt from your region and it set it off?

  • no my brother bought my game in canada

  • your doing a great job with ff7 :)

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!

  • Robo's Magic is amazing! I'm going to use him a lot more in the DS version...Once I get my hands on it.

    Heh...NO GAME is like Chrono Trigger. I love it so much. Like you said, it's fun, silly and a blast to play. One of the reasons it's my favorite game.

    Happy new year, HC.

    ''Received enough of Spekkio's praise to last a year!''

    Great! You can keep that through all of 2009!

  • Im gouing to miss this LP i loved it so much this episode made me cry

    keep the good work going HC !

  • If you don't max out your stats with tabs, is Nu Spekkio a challenge, or does just being level 99 still make him a pushover?

  • Robo + Haste Helm + Magic Tabs + Heal Beam = Dead Nu Spekkio.

  • Heal Beam is overpowered, and I love it.

  • thank you thank you thank you *five hours later*

    THANK YOU!!!!!

  • Happy new year!

    Nice setup on the nu, his only remaining useful attack was that wave thingie.

    Too bad i've never fought him, i like a challenge.

    BTW, i love your LP-series, it's so fun to watch! :D

  • Happy New Year! I also got Chrono Trigger DS for christmas =p but so far im only on the death peak place (I think thats the name I forgot) The Lavos Spawns are giving me alot of trouble though...

  • I'm so jealous! Gah! I want that game! :-(

  • Oh, and I'm sorry for my outburst yesterday. I'm just really happy that you have decided to do SDIII as an LP series. The thing is, I have literally had dreams where you do the SDIII LP series--I'm not kidding. "Hello, this is HCBailly, and welcome to Let's Play Seiken Densetsu III!". Yes, that was actually in one of my dreams. I love the game, and I'm really glad you're going to do it--of course, I'm also excited for all of your other upcoming LP series, and I love the current ones too.

  • Happy new year, man! You fucking rock! Every single day I await your new LP episodes-they really bring a smile to my face! =D

    Oh, and enjoy Chrono Trigger DS--I'm trying to play it myself now (although I start school again on Monday, and I simply won't have time for it until like May when I get off school =( ).

  • Happy New Year HCBailly!

    Its been a wonderful year for your LPs and I hope we have another great year under your care.

    Keep up the great work.

  • HCBailly, if you want silly RPGs today, I suggest you look into free games like Barkely shut and Jam:Gaiden The Hoopz Berkely Saga, and the recently released Bonerquest.

  • Wasn't the entire point of Barkley that it was completely deadpan the whole time?

  • I got Chrono Trigger DS for christmas. They cleaned up a few things from the old translations, and added a few new things, I won't say what. But it's a good game all on its own, and I think you'll really enjoy it. Happy New Year, HCBailly. Here's to a good 2009.

  • Whoa, it's 12:16AM. Guess that makes this the first vid I watched in 2009! (Gotta work in 45 mins, otherwise I'd be doing something)

    I haven't been to the movies in such a long time, I used to go every week. I think they've gotten too obsessed with creating characters just to watch 'em suffer. (Like wow, I wonder Who gave them that idea) 'Cause that's more "realistic" or something. So much for escaping from reality!

  • Merry Noo Yah !!

  • happy new year Bailly!

  • Enjoyed the serie a lot, there was kittys and a robot monsters, what more can i ask for :)

    Tho i wanted to see how Robos Uzzi Puch would do, now that hes level 99 and has maxed stats.

  • Low level LP would be so amazing!

    Happy new year HC!

  • Games like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII stay with us for as long as we'll ever remember. Each game has its own charm and flavor, and I doubt this game will ever be lost to history's pages. So ends the famous Chrono Trigger, and I hope you enjoy the DS version, HC. And a happy new year to all.

  • Jeeze, have to be maxed out in order to fight him!? That sucks! If you're maxed out, then it makes the last bosses too easy!

  • I think with the new Batman movies, they are supposed to be dark. They're trying to approach is in a different way.

  • Magnificent! You received enough of Spekkio's praise for all of 2009.

    BTW I agree with your comment about the dark mood of today's games. Even Chrono Cross definitely shows less of a light-hearted comical side than its predecessor.

  • OHH! you got the Chrono trigger DS. SWEET!

  • Had a few days without internet and whaddya know? I came back to catch this episode! Thanks!

  • Wow, I had not seen the pink Nu before..looks like he borrows all of the best attacks from every character in the game.

    This series was a lot of fun and I enjoyed watching and commenting on it..bravo!

  • i got chrono trigger ds as well! it's awesome

  • I have been playing FF4 DS, its pretty amazing. Looking forward to CT and FF3 on DS as well.

  • i got that for DS to i was so pissed when i realized DAMN IT TONIC POTION TAB CAPSULE i was so pissed they changed so much

  • What is the max lv 99 or 100?

    p.s Thanks for intruding me to Chrono Trigger =)

  • GREATEST LET'S PLAY SERIES EVER!!!

    Great job, I totally enjoyed watching the series and this helped me out a lot on Chrono Trigger DS because I havent played the game since the Final Fantasy Chronicles release, so i've forgotten a lot of stuff. Chrono Trigger was my favorite game for SNES, it was my favorite game for PS1 next to FF7, and now its my favorite game for the DS. its just an amazing game. I especially love the new ending for the DS version. Great job again =]

  • Happy New year HC Bailey

    and thanks for your addictive Let's Play Videos

  • Happy New year HC Bailey and enjoy DS!

    Actually considering the new content on the DS there MIGHT be a reason to do a few more Let's Play episodes of CT.

    Except I won't watch them until I've played through it myself, you know, just because.

  • Happeh new year

    :3

  • Congrats on your entire Chrono Trigger playthrough, HCBailly! Hope you enjoy Chrono on the DS (I know I really did, espescially since it was my very 1st time playing the game EVER!)

    Anyway, good luck with all your future playthroughs and Happy New Year! =D

  • I didnt like the joker in the dark knight, I grew up on the mid 90s batman cartoon so I like the more funny joker and harley quin then the psycho one. And I miss games that have a fun side to them, The new Tales game for the wii is serious but it at least it has the funny skits. I still think the best ff is 9 since the characters where more fun and who dosent like vivi the cutest black mage ever.

  • I've noticed the sudden darkness in the media as well. It makes me really depressed to see such great games like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IX, and Wind Waker pushed under the rug for games like Fallout 3, Twilight Princess, and Gears of War 2. I mean, I like the new games....but the post-apocalyptic/pre-apocalypt­ic theme is getting a bit a bit killed, don'tcha think?

    Anyways, I digress.

    I'll be sad to see this LP gone, but I'm looking forward to your others! :D

  • NOOOO.....I don't want it to end :'(

  • I know what you mean HCBailly, the movies are either dark or the ones that actually try to be silly, just end up being stupid and failing at humour.

    PS: Happy New Year! (2am here in the UK :P)

  • I was JUST about to write "didn't you notice Shock dealing more damage than Luminaire?" when I thought about their equipment, that Robo had the PrismSpecs. Anyway, I know what you mean with the series not wanting to end.

    About games and movies being so dark... yeah, it happens a lot. I have found at least 1 ray of light in it, and that's the new Prince of Persia which I got for christmas :D Also, Mega Man 9, which brings us back to the past when games were cheery like that :D <-(I'm an MM fan).

  • Well what kind of atmosphere were you expecting from a movie titled the DARK Knight? Since... yknow, it has DARK right in the name.

  • I was expecting Dark Knight to be cool, yet amusing with just the right amount of sarcasm and humor... like the first one.

    Instead, we get "Joker kills somebody, Batman tries to capture him, Joker kills somebody else, Batman tries to capture him again, rinse and repeat until we feel like we've reached a good stopping point."

  • We all know that all good thing thing must come to an end eventually. But still, this was a great game, it was maybe beyond great.

    Why didn't Square Soft more games in the Chrono series, it was just getting started.

  • Well, Happy New Year to us! Finally, the battle with Nu Spekkio! Thank you, HCBailly! It's amazing how much damage can be done when everybody's stats are maxed out. Luminaire is more powerful, but I still think Dark Matter is cooler. Meh, that's just me. Anyway, thanks for this New Year's gift and LOVED the Beetlejuice clip at the end! "Nice f'n model" *honk, honk*!

  • NICE FUCKING MODELS HONK HONK XD

  • Dark has apparently become "cool". I miss the days where we could play a game without having any kind of pointless backstory that tried too hard to be serious, and don't put in the little bits of humor that make it memorable. Games like Chrono Trigger and FFIV (I got that on DS; it's awesome) had the perfect blend of humor and seriousness, in my opinion.

    And is fighting Nu Spekkio at any level lower than max voluntary suicide?

  • Probably.

  • I don't think Spekkio changes his form to become Nu until your levels are max.

  • actually, he (Nu Spekkio) isn't even availaible unless you're at the max level.

  • You know, you could've just used an Experience code or something to max out your stats sooner.

    Unless there's some hidden calculation system ala Pokemon and EVs.

    As for the whole darkness in the media, dark is the new light.

  • Wow great job HC.  I've never seen this before. Have a good new year!

  • must of took a while to max out all of your stats

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