Of course there's all the comments about it being a side to side power shift, but it's a funny coincidence that it is perfectly in sync as if it was front to back. I don't buy it.
@reddot44 I noticed the same thing. It's definitely not ideal when the power is shifting back and forth between the front and rear. It's prob something with the center diff that sends the power to the rear. I'm guessing this video was made to track down things like this.
@wantapgt actually it is ideal for launching...in fact, mitsubishi designed an entire full time 4wd system known as viscous realtime 4 (aka VR4) which was installed into a few of mitsubishi's flagship vehicles such as the gallant, diamante and 3000gt. The idea behind it is that whenever you break traction the power is diverted from the slipping wheels to the gripping wheels.
Why are you changing the crank? Out of every component in the 1g 4g63, the crank is the strongest. If you are trying for more hp, start with the rods and pistons.
quick question. im ganna install a forged crank on my 1g 6 bolt tsi soon.. im having issues on wat to get. eagle 4340 forged 88mm 94mm and 100mm crank. i have a stock block right now im just wating on forged eagle rods and ross pistons to arraive, and on the head i have 272 cams with adjustable cam gears and some new vaulve springs and retainers. im running a evo3 big 16g but will be switching over to the 20g soon.. suggestions anybody????
If you go back to page 3, i did post its not a front to back issue..
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..really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not."
Another words, front to back is working from its center diff..
Does it have the orange sticker....unless the rear diff was swapped then it doesn't matter I find it hard to believe it has an LSD and it slips like that........?
@lars88keys What are you talking about? ALL AWD dsm's have an "LSD" between the front and rear... it's called the VISCOUS COUPLER. The orange sticker only indicates the rear diff is LSD which would allow it to LOCK under certain situations instead of spinning the wheel with no traction in the rear SET only. Has nothing to do with front-to-rear power distribution. That's the viscous coupler's job.
"..really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not. "
So in other words, yes the Viscous is doing its job transferring power front to back. As both you and I both pointed out.
Well seeing as this guy and his friend work on my dsm, I know a little about this car, its getting redone right now and simply sits in his garage... nice car at the time of this video, but no this car runs low 11's i believe not 7's ROFL
i suppose but this car is hardly that class..... you can tell its not unlimited ultra modified class. those fenderwells are part of the 'frame' since it's a unibody :/
Also here is a quick differential lesson for people that don't know..
An open differential is one that splits power between a wheel that has grip and one that doesn't, an open differential will send power to the wheel thats slipping hoping that it gets grip.
A limited slip differential "limits" slip and will send more power to the wheel that grip's with out fully removing power from the wheel that is slipping.
Then you have center diffs the split power front to rear.
That laser has open diff's front and back hence why you see the front spin and the rear spin and the front spin and the rear spin...really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not.
@lars88keys it IS shifting power from the front and rear. The viscous coupler is sensing the front wheels have no traction because of the weight shifted during launch so it sent the power to the rear wheels.
...what are you talking about? ... heh.. i think you may have misread my post go back to page 3.. I wrote that its not a front to back issue, it was side to side. Somebody else before my post I believe had said something about it being a front to back issue, and I said it was not.
it's not spinning front to back, It's spinning side to side. I'll bet you anything it's not welded. If it was they would all be in sync. It has a viscous lsd in the front and in the back.
its because the centre is welded, so when the front slips, it tensions the rear, so then the rear slips, and tensions the front axle, so on and so forth until they both even out, if you watch a real wheel drive car turn and get axle chatter, it will help you get what i mean
MAN THIS IS ONE CLEAN 1G. I REMEMBER SEEING AND THINKING THAT TO MYSELF AT THE SHOOT OUT. BUT YEAH YOU HAVE2 LOVE AWD. ITS THE ONLY WAY TO PUT DOWN SOME REAL POWER!!!
ya but everytime you got to go from a roll from all the douche bags that wanna race, i tell them you dont start from a roll at the drag strip...but yeah i get in arguements about it cuz i try to take advantage of AWD :P, i have a 95 tsi awd talon btw
on a AWD, LSD doesnt make much of a difference, you should know that GSX boy, Ive owned a 92 GSX with LSD, a 96 GSX With LSD and now im on a Galant Vr-4 so I DO know what I am talking about.
LSD makes a big difference in cornering, especially in limited-traction situations such as rain or snow. I've owned a Mazda 323GTX and an Eagle Talon TSi both without rear LSD, and a Subaru WRX with rear LSD. All three were prone to understeer, but the difference with the WRX was that, with power going to the outside rear wheel, the back end to come around pretty quickly. On the non-LSD cars, the inside wheels would spin haplessly and the front end would just keep plowing outward.
And even in a straight line, once you start putting down serious power, whether that power goes to 2 wheels or 3 wheels can make a difference indeed. It might not make a difference on a stock DSM with around 200HP. But it makes a difference at around 350-400HP.
@nizzbomb69 thank you sir thats fucking crazy having only 3 people in the band playing stuff like this.
Mrboostpsi 1 month ago
Spin front, rear, front, rear... Awesome!
levelvtl 1 month ago
name of song?
Mrboostpsi 2 months ago
@Mrboostpsi chevelle - the clincher
good heavy band esp for only 3 people bein in it
NizzBomb69 1 month ago
nice u were off the line before the other car new what hit him sweet.
hurley242584 3 months ago
There seems to be a bit of a spring type action as the power bounces front to back. Could this be a disadvantage over a welded diff?
ricktbdgc 6 months ago
Of course there's all the comments about it being a side to side power shift, but it's a funny coincidence that it is perfectly in sync as if it was front to back. I don't buy it.
wantapgt 7 months ago
@reddot44 I noticed the same thing. It's definitely not ideal when the power is shifting back and forth between the front and rear. It's prob something with the center diff that sends the power to the rear. I'm guessing this video was made to track down things like this.
wantapgt 7 months ago
@wantapgt actually it is ideal for launching...in fact, mitsubishi designed an entire full time 4wd system known as viscous realtime 4 (aka VR4) which was installed into a few of mitsubishi's flagship vehicles such as the gallant, diamante and 3000gt. The idea behind it is that whenever you break traction the power is diverted from the slipping wheels to the gripping wheels.
HeresYourSign1 6 months ago
@PABLORL1989
My apology, should have read full post. However, 1g 4g63 cranks can easily handle 700+ hp. Just make sure you get better bushings.
Motorhead773 10 months ago
@PABLORL1989
Why are you changing the crank? Out of every component in the 1g 4g63, the crank is the strongest. If you are trying for more hp, start with the rods and pistons.
Motorhead773 10 months ago
chevelle playin to a dsm video lol
isphius 11 months ago
@isphius i know. this'll get those bowtie fanboys angry.IMPORTS 4 LIFE. I drive a 480whp nissan coupe.
spencermel 6 months ago
@spencermel it still amazes me how all those parts hold together hwen they go through this lol
isphius 6 months ago
@isphius you can chryo treat drivetran parts.and get really good quality parts always.
spencermel 6 months ago
@spencermel Bowtie fans angry?? Nahhh I drive a '00 GMC Jimmy & a '92 Talon Tsi AWD hehe, big fat bullseyepower turbo on that too.
hansfase 5 months ago
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quick question. im ganna install a forged crank on my 1g 6 bolt tsi soon.. im having issues on wat to get. eagle 4340 forged 88mm 94mm and 100mm crank. i have a stock block right now im just wating on forged eagle rods and ross pistons to arraive, and on the head i have 272 cams with adjustable cam gears and some new vaulve springs and retainers. im running a evo3 big 16g but will be switching over to the 20g soon.. suggestions anybody????
PABLORL1989 1 year ago
Why do the back wheels stat spinning then stop then the front spin and stop and repeat that process?
Sorry, I'm not to good with cars so excuse me if this is a stupid question
reddot44 1 year ago
Cool to see the open diffs work against each other
mrmeanr 1 year ago
The black car is my buddys car, its got more done to it now, I think he runs a FP3065 now... plus other goodies.
TheLeeno 1 year ago
damn he got his reaction time down
Norrek4040 1 year ago
both these DSM's must be running 2 seconds in the 1/4 mile... notice how noone in the backround moves an inch! xD
ErnyyScene 1 year ago
So badass how it claws its way outta the hole.
motox010 1 year ago
this video made me fall in love with my DSM, again haha
mobsterbillyjoe 1 year ago
Who gave this a thumbs down? What a chub!
devilslice 1 year ago
I love thais shit mate! Makes want to go out and drive mine right now!!!
devilslice 1 year ago
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@mikeymike
Your right, it is shifting front to rear....
If you go back to page 3, i did post its not a front to back issue..
."
..really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not."
Another words, front to back is working from its center diff..
..make sense?
lars88keys 1 year ago
that is the most sexy thing i have ever laid eyes on, and the music fits it very well, this clip should be in the modern day musium of art.
deathkricket123 1 year ago
I LOVE IT!!! and i love your choice of music!!
CHEVELLE!! haha
dsmracer22 1 year ago
dam i wish i had a AWD. too bad mine is a FWD
JRYANG9000 2 years ago
damn awd is sick at the track
93VR4SPOOL 2 years ago
you can see the front and back shift back and forth :D
FORDGTFANATIC 2 years ago
whats the name of this song
HighpsiaddicT 2 years ago
chevelle the clincher :)
catfisher10100 2 years ago
Does it have the orange sticker....unless the rear diff was swapped then it doesn't matter I find it hard to believe it has an LSD and it slips like that........?
lars88keys 2 years ago
@lars88keys
An 11-second car getting launched at 5000rpm+ and you don't think it's going to slip some? lol
Pube83 2 years ago
@Pube83
...yep if it runs 11's sure there will be slip.. but on that same note, If it runs 13's with bad tires it will slip..
lars88keys 1 year ago
@lars88keys What are you talking about? ALL AWD dsm's have an "LSD" between the front and rear... it's called the VISCOUS COUPLER. The orange sticker only indicates the rear diff is LSD which would allow it to LOCK under certain situations instead of spinning the wheel with no traction in the rear SET only. Has nothing to do with front-to-rear power distribution. That's the viscous coupler's job.
mikeymike4g63 1 year ago
@mikeymike4g63
"..really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not. "
So in other words, yes the Viscous is doing its job transferring power front to back. As both you and I both pointed out.
lars88keys 1 year ago
Well seeing as this guy and his friend work on my dsm, I know a little about this car, its getting redone right now and simply sits in his garage... nice car at the time of this video, but no this car runs low 11's i believe not 7's ROFL
TheLeeno 2 years ago
gst or gsx ?
PatitoRacing 2 years ago
gsx, it has all wheel drive, gst is only front wheel drive
imadethistowatchvide 2 years ago
hmmmmm wow r u serious?
sciondvr 2 years ago
sorry don´t see the tittle! of vid!
gsx ;)
PatitoRacing 2 years ago
gsx it says all wheel drive =-D
escudodark 2 years ago
what was the 60' time??
wjpurnell 2 years ago
since that talon runs a 7.70 quarter at 197, id ventue to say a very fast 60
imadethistowatchvide 2 years ago
so you dont know then.
wjpurnell 2 years ago
Is that the turbo and manifold glowing at :30? Mine will always do that after running hard but Ive always seen it with the hood open
batdad187 2 years ago
no doofus its the spring assembly. lol how could you see the manifold from this angle?
mikeymike4g63 2 years ago
Because a lot of racers take out the wheel wells to save weight, at which point it would be very possible.
batdad187 2 years ago
i suppose but this car is hardly that class..... you can tell its not unlimited ultra modified class. those fenderwells are part of the 'frame' since it's a unibody :/
mikeymike4g63 2 years ago
sick sick sick...awd dsm all the way
turbomen08 2 years ago
wow coolist thing ive seen in a while
MillyFlow 2 years ago 2
i wont ever fuck with a all wheel drive car
cause youl get smoked
hacker1462 2 years ago
Also here is a quick differential lesson for people that don't know..
An open differential is one that splits power between a wheel that has grip and one that doesn't, an open differential will send power to the wheel thats slipping hoping that it gets grip.
A limited slip differential "limits" slip and will send more power to the wheel that grip's with out fully removing power from the wheel that is slipping.
Then you have center diffs the split power front to rear.
lars88keys 2 years ago
Just so you guys know...
Mitsubishi's came with rear LSD's standard.
Plymouth/Eagle's had rear LSD's as an option.
That laser has open diff's front and back hence why you see the front spin and the rear spin and the front spin and the rear spin...really whats going on is not front to back, its side to side, since the diff(s) is/are throwing the power side to side.. one would assume if front to back but its not.
lars88keys 2 years ago
Wrong, his car has LSD, trust me I know the guy..., and its an eclipse I'm pretty sure. Although same difference really.
TheLeeno 2 years ago
@lars88keys it IS shifting power from the front and rear. The viscous coupler is sensing the front wheels have no traction because of the weight shifted during launch so it sent the power to the rear wheels.
mikeymike4g63 1 year ago
@mikeymike4g63
...what are you talking about? ... heh.. i think you may have misread my post go back to page 3.. I wrote that its not a front to back issue, it was side to side. Somebody else before my post I believe had said something about it being a front to back issue, and I said it was not.
lars88keys 1 year ago
On a different note: "A little more slower"? Really? Is our children learning?
poorboychevelle 2 years ago
Do you mean "Are our children learning?"
mxt2s 2 years ago 8
it's not spinning front to back, It's spinning side to side. I'll bet you anything it's not welded. If it was they would all be in sync. It has a viscous lsd in the front and in the back.
JTmagicman24 2 years ago
cool thats the first slow mo dsm launch ive seen.
watchforfinger 2 years ago
its because the centre is welded, so when the front slips, it tensions the rear, so then the rear slips, and tensions the front axle, so on and so forth until they both even out, if you watch a real wheel drive car turn and get axle chatter, it will help you get what i mean
lxcocos 2 years ago 3
can someone explain to me what happpened? the all the wheels spun, then the front then the back,...what?
swatsticker 2 years ago
thats bad ass you can see the car twist a little
tremer88 2 years ago
nice eclipse
DragonInfraXtremeRGT 2 years ago
around how much does a eclipse 1g and 2g cost ?
DragonInfraXtremeRGT 2 years ago
damn that other guy was sleeping at the light
drzflyest4 2 years ago 15
Would be better with some music.......
BASSCHAMP101 2 years ago
Very nice vid.. Thats crazy
criggan 2 years ago
pretty sick
mujjuman 2 years ago
if only those were slicks:/
usoofat 2 years ago
very cool and great music at the same time, top notch buddy
redclaw01 2 years ago 3
FAIL! Bad music.....
BASSCHAMP101 2 years ago
SICK VID MAN!!! Great Idea
BLACKURA87 2 years ago
do work son lol.
xxaceofspadezxx 2 years ago
what a wicked idea awesome vid, AWD DSM all the way
adammuska 2 years ago 4
Thats bad ass
CWellman9345 3 years ago
o sHIt this looks freken Ko0l
fsacdfa 3 years ago
MAN THIS IS ONE CLEAN 1G. I REMEMBER SEEING AND THINKING THAT TO MYSELF AT THE SHOOT OUT. BUT YEAH YOU HAVE2 LOVE AWD. ITS THE ONLY WAY TO PUT DOWN SOME REAL POWER!!!
DSM-4-LIFE
FFR-AWDbacon 91 talon tsi awd
AWDbacon 3 years ago
ya but everytime you got to go from a roll from all the douche bags that wanna race, i tell them you dont start from a roll at the drag strip...but yeah i get in arguements about it cuz i try to take advantage of AWD :P, i have a 95 tsi awd talon btw
Trueplaya38 2 years ago 2
NICE
AWDbacon 3 years ago
i am a subi guy but dsm dominate
so much power
4g63 rocks!
98subiRS 3 years ago
does anyone know the torque split?? is it really 50/50 ....60/40
GOBbluthagain 3 years ago
50/50
mytbouf21 3 years ago
thats funny as shit
bobogoat1 3 years ago
that 1g is very very beautiful i wish mine was that nice
rob3rtaron 3 years ago
lol that shit is sick. dsm 4 life
buddah463 3 years ago
The guy in the Green Talon is my buddy Jeff!!!
BitchWABishi 3 years ago
nice dsm you got :P
dsmeclipsegsx 3 years ago
Why thank you :) She's goin' through a complete makeover right now...new engine, FMIC, fuel, everything...she's gonna be quite the sexxy bitch. :)
BitchWABishi 3 years ago
this is amazing..
GOBbluthagain 3 years ago 2
that shit is awesome.
timgeezy 3 years ago
what song is that
90talonturbo 3 years ago
Chevelle - "The Clincher"
galliumscan 3 years ago 2
Wow. Id like to see how a gsx with a welded center diff launches~
BlackBullet7 3 years ago
what kind of centre diff do these cars have?
noobtube82 3 years ago
Viscous.
DroverChicago 3 years ago
amen
a2jFella 3 years ago
to DroverChicago
a2jFella 3 years ago
on a AWD, LSD doesnt make much of a difference, you should know that GSX boy, Ive owned a 92 GSX with LSD, a 96 GSX With LSD and now im on a Galant Vr-4 so I DO know what I am talking about.
brunoboy650 3 years ago
lol its so cute when DSM guys start talking
VitaminJyo 3 years ago
LSD makes a big difference in cornering, especially in limited-traction situations such as rain or snow. I've owned a Mazda 323GTX and an Eagle Talon TSi both without rear LSD, and a Subaru WRX with rear LSD. All three were prone to understeer, but the difference with the WRX was that, with power going to the outside rear wheel, the back end to come around pretty quickly. On the non-LSD cars, the inside wheels would spin haplessly and the front end would just keep plowing outward.
DroverChicago 3 years ago 2
And even in a straight line, once you start putting down serious power, whether that power goes to 2 wheels or 3 wheels can make a difference indeed. It might not make a difference on a stock DSM with around 200HP. But it makes a difference at around 350-400HP.
DroverChicago 3 years ago 2
Neato!
hardcoregonzo 3 years ago
What makes you think the 1g doesn't?
Morpherex 3 years ago
That 2G got schooled off the line!
motox010 3 years ago
2g has lsd, plus not that modded as 1g.
dsmeclipsegsx 3 years ago
Sweet video, maybe you should use some more tags though.
GazaUnit 3 years ago
What center diff and front diff are you running?
nealoc187 3 years ago
This is at the shootout?
Morpherex 3 years ago
Cool vid! Would like to see one with a welded center diff.
chiefbeefofficer 3 years ago 2
Holy FUCK!!!!!! Wuddup turbo brick, it's Don boosted :P
mreardon89 3 years ago
4g63 AWD FTW! ;-)
DaKnightFall 3 years ago
AWDs sure take a beating at the line. Pretty cool.
740turbobrick 3 years ago
excellent
latdsm 3 years ago
That is BAD ASS!! Awesome video
2fastdsm 3 years ago 2