home made Electric foundry for Aluminium

[dramey03]

nice 80s porn music

[ImbueUOdotcom]

cool

[aj21allday1]

1. can you also melt gold using this same technique ?

2. what dis you hook up at the end to the of the isolated heaters ?

[dramey03]

@aj21allday1 no and no

[martialartist34]

Ive searched and cant find where to buy the 600 watt wire.. where can those be purchased?

[manholewisdom]

your lucky you didn't get hurt

[Slecker95]

Epic saxophone man?

[r11112009oma]

wot fak iz it

[Luicho666]

0:58 LO IBA A AGARRAR CON LA MANO!!! JAJAJA

[Jameslikespudding]

all i wanna do is melt some brass then pour it into a mould and cast brass knuckles 8'( or make a kubotan

[DJBigz1988]

xD when you reached for it i was like "AH!" ive done that before when baking cookies. i reached down to grab the cookie sheet out of the oven. grabbed it, picked it up, put it on the stove, and screamed and cussed for about 5 minutes. lol

[xxeu4riaxx]

thats really cool,i would love to know how to make one haha!

from casting the the concrete to the induction

would ya give us a few tips :D

peace!

[justmekkb]

Wow! Watching you almost loose your finger prints - puckered up my bung hole! Glad you stopped when you did!

[ivanov3000mltk]

@justmekkb Hi! "loose your finger prints " great deal !!!!! :))

[Emaniac69]

Two questions: 1) would ground up soda cans work as the scrap? 2) what happens when you let the temp rise higher than 800 C?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@Emaniac69 Hi! 1) As I know, thin pieses of scrap (and cans too) is not very sutable raw produce due to oxygenated layer over Al. Bulk pieses is better.

2) heater was burned. See explanation below video and answers to comments.

[c0ldelement]

whats foamed concrete?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@c0ldelement please, use search string "foamed concrete" and "foam concrete" on ytube. I can't add any link here.

[c0ldelement]

@ivanov3000mltk Yah I did afterwards never heard of it tho before... :P

[ivanov3000mltk]

@scottysavage hi i cant because water drops will spoil the cast it will not laminate :))

Hi i can't because water drops will spoil the cast, waporising while it contact with hot alloy. Cooled alloy never had laminated to tin or steel forms. But I get a bit liquid hot alloy behind my neck one day. So it is better to heat forms before.



[YourMOMsPie]

"Here you go, $100."

"It's ok, keep your money"

bonus points to who can get that quote.

:):):)

[mike4ty4]

How does the operating cost for this compare to more conventional methods involving direct use of combustible fuels (like charcoal, coal, propane, etc.)?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@mike4ty4 I'v newer compared the cost, but in different countries is different cost of electricity in compare with fuel. In Russia 5 kWatt heater eats 13 rubles per hour, but similar heating power of fuel heater use about 5 litres of balloned propane that cost 50 rubles, and central supporting propane is more cheaper. So it depends.

[mike4ty4]

@ivanov3000mltk Ah. So why do you use the electric instead of the gas?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@mike4ty4 The reason is not cheapness. But in other comments I wrote that I recommend NOT to use electrik heater instead of propane. Check my other videos.

[mike4ty4]

@ivanov3000mltk Ah. That makes more sense.

[tommo3987]

watch. Full Length Film On boredvip .co.uk

[cassiavc]

Uhnn...Can I use Kanthal A1 heating element for this?

[maxey83112]

ur a dumbass there gos ur fingers

[Anothercoilgun]

Ooooo... you almost lost some fingers.

[ivanov3000mltk]

@Anothercoilgun Don't be afraid. It is not so awfull.

[cassiavc]

Ohhh, just more one think. You are strong. How did you curved the heaters?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@cassiavc Hi. I curved it only by hands. It was very heavily! Try to use wooden levers or vice.

[mike4ty4]

@ivanov3000mltk So then you must be pretty strong, no?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@mike4ty4 I am not strong. You can see my slim body on video :) Just use levers. I thing different heaters have different diameter, so one's with small diameters are sutable for curving. May be you use thick heaters and due to it it is hard to curve them for you. Let you use wooden levers with small holes in it. Put heater in that hole and try to fold it in durable shape. After it simply destroy levers if it will be hardly to take it off the curved heater.

[Gohamonem100times]

haha u were about to touch that with ur hand and burn ur whole hand off stupid

[ivanov3000mltk]

@Gohamonem100times Thanks. At 18 years old you should be more clever, than laugh like 5 years boy. Answer me please: if anybody show just a finger to you - you will laugh too? Keep on... and good luck. :)

[Gohamonem100times]

@ivanov3000mltk hahaha ivan right now i laugh. tomorrow i laugh. the next day what is it that i will do?.....i will laugh..oh yes!!i will laugh and laugh and laugh. hahaha eternity of laughter and ha ha has. hahhahah...ehhhh how you know me is eighteen huh. i guess i will have to look you up in the NAMARTA database hmmm?oh yes and when i find you i will laugh. yes i will laugh and laugh and laugh!!! KEEP LIFE HAMTASTIC!!

[mike4ty4]

@ivanov3000mltk Huh? What's your point?

[cassiavc]

Can I use clay?

[elochka21]

А ТЭНы вообще какую температуру максимально выдерживают? И если гнуть, то не портятся?

А то хочу печь для отжига и закалки клинков сделать, до 900 градусов, а муфель не получается никак.

[ivanov3000mltk]

@elochka21 про макс темп не знаю, думаю, что сгорят быстро при 900 градусов, спираль внутри ТЭНа будет перегреваться при такой внешней температуре ТЭНа

[joemoma516]

you dont use a crucible?

[ivanov3000mltk]

@joemoma516 It was only experiment, so I did not care about crucible.

[joemoma516]

@ivanov3000mltk the setup is sound, good job

[cassiavc]

WHERE CAN i GET THE ISOLATE HEATER???

[ivanov3000mltk]

@cassiavc Irecommend you to visit hardware store.

[cassiavc]

@ivanov3000mltk I am not an US resident. I think that it would be good if I could get it from ebay, but using the term isolated heater, I find nothing.

[ivanov3000mltk]

@cassiavc Dear cassiavc! As you can notice, I am not from USA too. I am from Russia and english is not my native language too. So I understand your troubles :)) I recommend you go to hardware store and ask "electric heater for kitchen oven". I sure it will be easy than use Ebay. If you want Ebay exact try search "oven heater"

[cassiavc]

@ivanov3000mltk Great then. But just to confirm. I need too electric heater right?

[joemoma516]

@cassiavc look for "electric stove coil" or "heating element"

[cassiavc]

@joemoma516 Okay then! Thanks!

[Mendelevium146]

what kind of insulation do these wires have? Some high temperature ceramic?? I don't see a flexible material going red without melting. Really curious to know

[ivanov3000mltk]

@Mendelevium146 Hi! I don't know exactly, but can assume that this wires have insolator like small ceramic rings merged into steel tube. So MATERIAL is not flexible, but insolator is.

[cassiavc]

Where can I find the isolated heater?

[giandonato70]

hi, i tried to do the same, but the heaters have burnt after  half an hour!!!!!

what have u used for regulate the temperature???

[ivanov3000mltk]

@giandonato70 Hi! I used interrupted act :) I plug and unplug electricity with visual control. I think anybody can use thermopair.

[giandonato70]

hi, i tried to do the same, but the heaters have burnt after half an hour!!!!!

[kanfagun]

thanks a lot for your answer its good enough

[kanfagun]

hi in your video i dont see another 2 cables hooked to where only trash what you meant and also how to bind the ceramics insulator thanks best regards

[ivanov3000mltk]

@kanfagun ceramics insulator is framed inside metall tube so it's easily foldable. about 2 cables I don't understand you

[kanfagun]

@ivanov3000mltk i mean. i saw that there is 4 cables total.

0:16 i saw that 2 cables were attached to the 220 v and the other 2 cables were attached to the trash.

what do you mean by it?

[kanfagun]

@ivanov3000mltk in 0:16 i saw that there were 4 cables total. the first 2 cables were hooked at the 220 v and the other 2 cables were hooked to the trash. What do you meant by the trash? thanks best regards

[willibill1]

@ivanov3000mltk  Yaaa grab the hot bar with your bare fingers, thats reeeeaall cool.;

[ivanov3000mltk]

@kanfagun heater consist of two spiral heaters, so you should connect them bouth to 220 volt. 4 wires correspond 4 ends of 2 heaters. Nothing else. May be it is not clear on video, but now I have understood.

[shidoink]

ok but the elevator music isn't mandatory right?

[honeybunchickens]

what type of concrete is that inside?

[altingman]

could it melt maybe... salt

[blqkvo]

i always listen to this song when i melt and mold aluminium.

[adrielgbr]

@blqkvo jajaja! funny

[XXXERXXES]

1:00 playing with foundries without proper SAFETY GLOVES is a fun example for children

[IonOtter]

Hah-hah! Nice catch, there dude. You almost earned the nickname "No-Prints"

[ivanov3000mltk]

@IonOtter I'm bored of comments ike this. Very bored..

[wallzac13]

great job, but whats with the porno music?

[krazymangodz]

@wallzac13 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahaha xD =D

[nprezzato]

When you hook this up to your 220, how do you wire it?? I have a 3 wire hookup.

[ivanov3000mltk]

May be your heater have 3 variants of connecting to 220 (110) to achieve different heating and electric power. I recommend you to measure resistivity by tester. It should be about 40 Ohm.

[nprezzato]

Hey Ivanov, How do you bend the elements without crushing the ceramic insulation

[ivanov3000mltk]

Hi! I don't know how. I does'nt worry about it and all was right :) Seriously I can propose you to answer - how was this element been bend in the factory without crushing the ceramic? My answer is - ceramic is not long monolitic tube but is a lot of small ceramic rings, for example. Or ets.

[JanJanych]

@ivanov3000mltk, так и есть. Может быть не колечки, а что-то типа чашечек. Вопрос только в том, нафига тебе, Иванов, жидкий алюминиум?

[thesquirrel821]

@ivanov3000mltk or else it is dipped in ceramic coating after it is bent just like performance headers.

[ivanov3000mltk]

@thesquirrel821 I do not think so, but may be.

[andyboynr1]

@nprezzato They are actually filled with sand-like grains, the ceramic insulation is only the first inch or so. Bending copper tubing filled with sand is the best way to avoid breaking them so...

[matt9741399]

0:58 - A momentary lapse in judgment perhaps?

[ivanov3000mltk]

no comments, I am bored.

[CrazyMrChris]

Holy crap, 2Kw for both of those heaters? That's crazy. Crazy.

[ivanov3000mltk]

It is not crazy, really. Common heating power for furnace is 100W per each litre of furnace volume. But in fact this furnace having 2000W per litre heat to 700C about half an hour.

[hittingrabbit]

If you have a inside dryer your connection will be a 220 most U.S homes have an electric dryer I would guess.

[GingleGangle1]

How many vats?

[f1f1s]

Здорово! Узнал земляка по розеткам на досках, пиле и элементу нагревательному... =)

[ivanov3000mltk]

Здорово, а чё там узнавать :) я же написал что из Масквы матушки :) Ну насколько же проще писать на русском чем на английском.

[panzuman]

hello do you just hook up the heat coils to the power nothing else in the circut and can i use the element from the oven instead of the stove?

[ivanov3000mltk]

I hook up to 220 Volt.

I think you can if it for your outlet voltage.

[panzuman]

im in the us we have about half that do you know of anything that can cange it?

[panzuman]

did you make your crucable? if so how or at least what materials?

[ivanov3000mltk]

In that case I use stainless steel glass bought in the hardware store

[ivanov3000mltk]

Hi! Foamed concrete (cement) cjntain big quantitu of air. For ehample - 20*30*60 centimeter block weight 15 kg. So ordinary cement block is more density and weak heat insolator. I can recommend you use hydite or another nonorganic heat insolators.

[TheTruthPusher]

I have to solve a word puzzel every timeI try to post,

How obvious can youtube be, that they don't care for truth?

[TheTruthPusher]

Oh I see, and this little thing could send steam through an entire apartment building, heating 30 units, for only 1000 watts, ...that must be why they got rid of steam, claiming it was dangerous.

[TheTruthPusher]

Hey good job! Yeah becareful touching things.

How many amps and how high the voltage or frequency?

[ivanov3000mltk]

"How many amps and how high the voltage or frequency?" - It is not an INDUCTIVE heater. Frequency is 50 Hz (industrial standart in Russia) and voltage is 50 Volt.

[random90909090]

you idiot going to to pick the fucking thing up with your hand dumb ass

[ivanov3000mltk]

Thanks. And it is all what you can see in this video? Ask doctor check you eyesight. It may be serious problem, do not neglect it.

[meatisdeliciouse]

Aluminium is my favourite metal. In the Victorian times it was valued above gold because it was so hard to make.

[MrFreddyFeatures]

looks like Pb, lead but eitherway a really cool project

[Eduardobenna]

che temperatura può ragiungere?

[BasementBen]

Hmm, Foamed concrete? That must be with an airstone right? Interesting, good work.

Ben.

[ivanov3000mltk]

In different countries it can be called different names. Airstone is exact name. In Russia it is one word "foamedconcrete" in word-for-word translation on english.

[PaganSteve]

0:58 go ahead grab it lol

[ivanov3000mltk]

thanks. Without you I will never get it. Thanks again.

[supersport396]

I seen that too..i had to go back and make sure I seen bare fingers...ouch..

[TheyCallMeCracker14]

some one was smoking speed.

[jasongiddensviper478]

@TheyCallMeCracker14

No doubt they were on tweak time for sure!

[machopbad]

What do you use this for? Do you make Aluminum eating utensils?

[ivanov3000mltk]

It was made only for pastime, fun.

[machopbad]

Ah, I was thinking maybe make an aluminum staff with a badass head piece so it would only weigh a pound or so just for fun!

[Procrastinatathor]

Yes, a pimp staff lol

[flaky1324]

fuckin idiot tried to grab it by hand!  :] haha. but i love it, im trying to make a mold in school for that

[windfireforge]

You almost burned the crap out of yourself LOL

[AgentCROCODILE]

With all that power wouldn't it be better using induction heating?

[2LateIWon]

1:18 you were about to touch that with your bare hand weren't you LOL Good thing you didn't

[dundermiflinpaper]

i would think that if you filled it up the liquid metal would short circuit the ends of the heating coils, taking the path of least resistance. but maby cause its so hot it doesnt conduct well? i dont know.

[ivanov3000mltk]

this heating coil is isolated. You can see on picture outer tube and heated wire is inside it.

[VH12th]

could you give us a full video on how to make this ? i wanne try it ^^ and got any good tips on what i can use as a form ?

[djpaulk]

so.!...still would of taken your skin off.. Tehehe

[tobycat11]

brilliant ivanov, but isn't the aluminum in direct contact with the heating element inside the crucible?

[ivanov3000mltk]

isn't

[tobycat11]

@ivanov3000mltk, I'm a maintenance guy, so I understand all eccept why are coils visible? is foamcrete material transparant when coils are energized? and how thick should foamcrete be over the element? sorry to be so fussy, but I don't want the fucking thing to blow up! :)

[ivanov3000mltk]

Hi! First of all I want to say - heater is ISOLATED. It is a steel tube with thin wire inside separated with ceramic rings. Second - if I heat srucible it begin to light. So you can see "transparent concrete" or something that. Inside foundry heater contact crucible directly. Outer part of concrete is about 10 cm thick. (see on video)

[tobycat11]

Ivanov, Great! thanks

[prickskytte]

when alu get to hot and it smokes, than it is indeed very toxic , Ask some Tig Welders

[ivanov3000mltk]

I can't agree with you and some Tig Welders. :)

Al can't vapoir in any significant amount. When you see any smoke over the Al - it is burning pollutions, existed on Al junk surface. Of course they aren't usefull for our health :) But it is not AL VAPOUR indeed.

[ivanov3000mltk]

Only when Al alloy contains Zn dopant it may be harmful: Zn significantly vapoir at Al melting temperature and is harmfull. But on the open air and considering very small amount of dopant harmfull effect is insignificant.

[heratioalundi]

isnt aluminum toxic when its corrosion layer gets off?

[ivanov3000mltk]

no Al is'not toxic. But be carefull - it is VERY HOT!

[robotpredator8]

hey how much electricity does it use?

[ivanov3000mltk]

It use 600 Watt during 0.5 hour.

[nenooo82]

where is electric temperature regulation?

i cant see that

[ivanov3000mltk]

heater is manually regulated

[siddepoo]

the electricity bill would be massive

[BarnacleNZ]

nice. these isolated heaters aer they the type you find in electric ovens? thanks

[SOyuncastor2]

almost dude, almost....

[ivanov3000mltk]

Is it so important for you and me?

[ewmegoolies]

0:59 nearly used your fingers to shove that bit around!

[Timerider]

Yep we almost got to see that rescue 911 video.

Remember folks always wear safety equipment. It is worth any discomfort for a short time to not lose limbs and be unable to perform your craft any longer.

[shadowkill862]

dos anyone know where i could get a 1000 watt isolated heater?

[ivanov3000mltk]

check please your appliance shop

[ivanov3000mltk]

Hi! I was melting AlSi alloy, usually used for making car motors.

[27simber]

hi what was you melting in the pot

[ivanov3000mltk]

I don't understand what you mean. Explain please .

[waggawaggaz]

Terrible, just terrible. Oh, here's a tip: The melting point won't change, regardless of how hard you poke it.

[karlmonster]

what's that song in the background ?

[Dragonsintuxcedos]

Is it possible to cast aluminum alloy in that or any foundry. Lets say we wanted to make 7000 series alloy so we throw some zinc into the molten aluminum, would it intimately mix or would it sink to the bottom due to its high density? If that was the case could we continue stirring, would the constituents then mix properly? There seems to be no information regarding the difficulty of making the alloy apart from the prices.

[ivanov3000mltk]

Hi! Of course melted Al would totally mix with Zn and dissolve in it. But! I dont think, that your can obtain 7000 alloy of good mechanical properties because a lot of another dopant are nesassary - Cu, Mg, Mn. Pure Zn Al alloy have very veak rust resistibility.

[mormanman13]

The fumes for Zn are also toxic.

[bweazel]

Haha. @ :59. That would have hurt, friend. : )

[ivanov3000mltk]

fuck it, dear friend :) I have very thick skin. You can enjoy more seeng how it was HOT in my video "Homemade easy and cheap propane aluminium foundry" at 4:41

[kevinjsand]

Yeah I saw you about to grasp that aluminum billet with your bare hand! [0:59]

Kool Crucible though

[BunyPunter]

Every genius is an idiot but not every idiot is a genius.

[LEBANON707]

Sir there is too much heat loss I recommend that you cover with copper foil (copper melts at 1083°C) aluminium at about 600°C. But I understand that for video/photography purposes this not feasable !

[ivanov3000mltk]

I agree. And now I use a cover from foamed concrete, such as is on photos. And use not electric heater, but gas torch ecvivalent 5000 Watt electric heater. See another video soon.

[LEBANON707]

Sir the concrete will do the job - there is no denying it. However a metallic lid or foil made from copper or steel does have one advantage over concrete in that it will radiate the heat back into the crucible Actually it acts like a mirror for heat instead of light. Now heat travels through conduction too and may escape through the foil so the best solution would be to reinforce copper with concrete which is non heat conductor (composite structure)

[InToonamIsLegacy]

nicely done!..

[vinee94yo]

Puted! is that even English

[toob247]

i reckon it;s as english as prolly, or gunna, but hey how well do you speak a second language ? Just give the guy props for sharing his ideas

[mturgeon2]

I did something similar a while back, although I used an oxy-acetylene burner as a heat source.

[Donspigeons]

Looks like an expensive source of heat to me???

[m3mhunter]

Does anyone know how to wire one of these? is the foundry pluged into 220V using the balck and the red (of the four wires) directly to the element or is it the white and the balck of 110V? If anyone knows please let me know...

[ivanov3000mltk]

First - The foundry is hooked to 220 V. In my country it is standard home voltage. Second - I plug it without any mediator (balk), but when foundry have heated - it have overheated and breaked - so I recommend you use any regulated mediator - may be dimmer or etc.

[synchronous0987]

He tried to pick it up with his hand.....

LOL

[kvr4u]

very useful foundry begenner iam foundryman if send full detail it will very much useful to teach the trainee of foundryman

[ivanov3000mltk]

Kenny G "Havana"

[ivanov3000mltk]

it takes only 20 second to find it by search string "Kenny G". Do it your self :) not be lazy

[zobraman33]

what song is that?

[ivanov3000mltk]

I don`t remember,something from kenny G saxophone

[zobraman33]

can you please find it? i really need it

[mi123ke]

how did you wire it up? what to use etc.

[latheworks]

Yeo, best to use pliers to grab that piece of alu, you bet ya'! Not a good idea mate, not a good idea.