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  • @alltiedup217 surely you did go to court :) Sometime ago scientific debates were discussed in the scientific community not a court of law :) Truly evolution is the only scientific theory nowadays protected by a law. Well they need it to survive :) Even if empirical evidence suggests otherwise :)

  • I cant believe there are still people who think the earth is 6000 years old. Christains only like science when it helps them or saves thier life.

  • @fatgirlfister 1/ Evolution ans science are not exclusive to atheism

    2/ Evolution is debated within christianity

    3/ Evolution like calvinsm and predestination are not issues of salvation

  • Science does not disprove God.

    Science does not even care about God, it attempts to explain reality as we see it.

    1 minute into the video and the (now) Christian says something false.

    One wonders how much of an atheist he really was when almost everything he says is the same rhetorical bullshit all creationists now use.

  • atheist watch many youtube videos.

  • talk about stupid

  • I don't think this dude is for real. I think he's just making money off of the christian community. I really don't think he believes in God.

  • Christianity says that you must accept jesus christ as the son of god. So If you paractice any other faith you are condemed to hell. The jews, the muslims ( world biggest religion), mormons ect ect and every indian that ever lived are going to burn in hell?

  • @fatgirlfister John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,

  • @BigD71889 because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

  • @BigD71889 Why is it that when science helps save a life its good, but when it disproves the bible its bad? Are you saying that the old testament is a bunch of balogna, but the new testament is fact? Can you be a christian and disregard the old testament as babble. Do you believe the story of the tower of babble?

  • @fatgirlfister The foundation of Science relies on the existence of God, to even be valid. Laws of science are basically descriptions of what matter does based on repeated observations. Based on these observations we can predict how matter behaves. If a worldview claims that there is no God and life is a result of random chance, then how do you account for the predictability/uniformity of nature? Without the GOd of the bible you have no starting point. ALl of the bible is true.

  • @BigD71889

    "ALl of the bible is true."

    Let's see we know adam and eve didn't exist, Jews didn't escape from egypt, the tower of babel, global flood, man living in a fish,....all did not happen.

  • @thirdLeg k

  • @thirdLeg actually, all of that happened. you have no explanation for the existence of the jews.

  • @Sage80

    "no explanation"

    What? There is no evidence of any of the events I mentioned including the Jews being in Egypt.

  • @BigD71889 You didn't answer my question, a simple yes or no will do. I believe that by thinking we know what is going on is arrogant. The bees pollenate the plants of the world but have no idea they are doing it. They are just going about thier lives like you and I. I was raised southern baptist and as I got older I was able to form my own opinion and not go by what was handed to me. I thought as a kid that christianity was the only religion on earth.

  • @fatgirlfister so my question is where/how did the bees learn to pollinate the followers? This is not something that has too be taught to them, they inately know that there job is to pollinate. THe same way a spider doesnt have to be taught how to make a web, or ants how to make colonies? THis was instilled into their genetic code, through the ALmighty Creator of Heaven and Earth. I apologize if being raised a baptist, did not teach you the truths in Gods word, and his relevance.

  • @BigD71889 how old do you believe the earth is?

  • @fatgirlfister Well according to the scripture, Man was created on the sixth day of creation week. If you trace the genealogies of the bible, from Adam and eve to Abraham is 2000 years. From Abraham to Jesus is 2000 years. and from Jesus to today is approximately 2000 years. So I would say the Earth is relatively young. Approximately 6000 years old.

  • @BigD71889 Then how do you explain dinosaurs. You realy can't believe the earth is 6000 years old. Medacine is a result of science. So is your phone. Why are you so apt to believe in science when it helps you but not when it disproves parts of the bible?

  • 2:05 he deflects the question.

  • atheist butthurt trollsz

  • wow, what an idiot..

  • A christian who believes in God, but believes in evolution? hmmmmm

  • @BigD71889 There are lots of those. Don't be surprised. I am one as well.

  • @AegeanKing You do realize that the bible does not support this claim? The book of genesis teaches a literal six day creation of the world, and God resting on the seventh day.That is why the 4th commandment, tells us keep the seventh day sabbath holy, by not working, the same way God rested from His work on the seventh. The Earth is not millions of years old as evolution teaches. If we follow the bible it is relatively young, approximately 6000 years.

  • @BigD71889

    I think when they say "day" they may not have meant a 24 hour period.

  • @ivlfounder JOhn 11:9 Jesus said 9Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? 12 hours in a day, 12 hours of night. A day is a 24 hour period.

  • @BigD71889

    And which book of the Bible did Jesus write?

  • @ivlfounder what does that have to do with anything

  • @BigD71889

    Sometimes words and phrases can mean multiple things.

    For example if I say "my back feels like crap" I likely don't mean the texture of my back actually feels like fecal matter.

  • @ivlfounder agreed. but in both verses that i showed, it is reffering to a 24 hour day. no need to complicate the issue

  • @BigD71889

    The Book of John and Genisis (sp) have two different authors.

  • @BigD71889 No. That is not accurate. You have fallen victim to what modern fundementalists say. The historical FACT is, the earliest and most important Christian and Jewish theologians did not take Genesis literally. Important and revered Jewish theologians in the middle ages in the 12th century like RAMBAM did not read Genesis literally. In Christianity, the early Church Fathers in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th centuries did not take it literally. People like Saint Augustine and Origen.

  • @AegeanKing But the Jews are wrong.. they are the ones that actually crucified the King of Kings...they need Christs redemtption like all of us. Many are deceived.

  • @111ryanesau Being wrong about the Messiah doesn't make you wrong about everything else. That is fallacious logic friend.

  • @BigD71889 There have ALWAYS been a number of interpretations for Genesis. Not just one literal interpretation. This hyper-literalist reading of Genesis has only become popular in the last few hundred years. Look at what the earliest Christian theologians say and you will a number of different interpretations.

  • @AegeanKing Incorrect there is only one interpretation and it is the literal interpretation as it was intended

  • this guy is not very smart, he studies science, but he ignores the evidence of science; there is no god.

  • @StrelokNikitin show me one piece of evidence from science that proves no God..show me even one

  • @111ryanesau

    "proves no God"

    Theists are making a the claim of god it's their responsibility to provide the evidence. Guess what, there is none.

  • @DominikaDee Oxford to read Chemistry. He left with 1st class honours.

  • esevard- The "religion is a product of human psychology developed through evolution" is very circular and is based on the a priori assumption of evolution. With that assumption the argument is then unfalsifiable. if it is unfalsifiable, it doesn't even qualify as an argument, it's just taughtology.

  • Ah, the old argument from incredulity creationist canard. Brilliant...NOT!

  • I find it hard to believe that this guy is sincere about his past as an atheist. If he started thinking on his own like he said, he would understand, and see, that religion is a product of human psychology developed trough evolution.. if he ever got to those deep thoughts. It's a stated fact really: The greater education you have, the less you believe in any religion.This guy obviously saw the Richard Dawkins program, and is one of those critics who use stupid means to undermine Dawkins message.

  • dang what kinda University did he go to? It made him stupid!

  • OK, I have know about the chip being placed into people after Jesus comes for His Church. Could someone answer a question for me? Are they placing the chip into babies w/o the permission, of the parents? Mr. McGrath is right Richard Dawkins can be mean during interviews. I also disagree with Mr. McGrath God created the world in Seven days. I was taught that as a child and now as an adult, I still believe it.

  • that's funny, because the reason he's "become" chritstian is the same reason people convert to athiesm; thinking for your self and deciding the answer which is the exact same thing that i have done for myself. i also think it's hilarious how he mentions he stayed away from athiesm because he just "accepted" that there was no god. if you say you don't believe in god and someone ask you why and you say "i don't know" that you are fucking stupid

  • And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Revelation 14:9-11)Now this is a prophesy in the bible about the end of day's and just know that the government has placed a mass order of rfid chips to be put in every american it is a tracking chip and it holds your bank info without it you wont be able to buy,sell or trade but the bible warned us 2000 years ago

  • @riverstory87 that this would happen

  • @riverstory87 not about a chip ,it says a mark that would be visible not a chip under your skin.

  • @alltiedup217 Yes well with todays technology a person with a chip can be scanned and SEEN get real dude you cant deny this prophesy its to cohesive

  • @riverstory87 it would not be put in your forehead or on your hand. it say visible mark.you can try all you want to make it fit,fact is it doesn't

  • @riverstory87 and they didn't have chips back then so they explained it the best way they knew how

  • @riverstory87 then why not say something under the skin?why say in the shoulder? they say on the hand or on the forehead.This chip would never be put in any of those places.And its doubtful anyone would ever get it.receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: sorry dude this one fails.

  • @alltiedup217 Revelation's will probably take you less then a night to read all the way through it is possibly the most interesting book in the bible the final one in it.It speak's more about our final day's then any other book you should read it at least to gain knowledge on a subject you don't understand that prophesy has so much more to it it's undeniable yet you deny it that just prove's to me that you haven't read it and when it comes knocking remember what youve been told (were not enemys)

  • @riverstory87 we just want to help

  • @alltiedup217 by the way some people already have this chip and its in there hands not shoulder when its finally ready to be put in thats where they will be put mark my words and remember them right hand or forehead thats the way its going to be just wait and see my god doesnt lie

  • @riverstory87 ya just wait and see like when jesus said some of you will not taste of death before the end of the world..then 2000 years later we are still waiting.are there some 2000 year old dudes running around out there?or did jesus lie?what about when he said you will get everything you want in prayer?we all know thats not true.jesus lied or maybe its all made up by other people that lied..ya I'll go with that.

  • @riverstory87 there are only a few people who have this chip and of the few that have them in the hand its in the left hand NOT the right as the bible claims NONE are in the forehead.this is nothing more than paranoid ranting.funny that this idea was first put forth by the zeitgeist folks..and you know what they think about jesus lol ....

  • @alltiedup217 I cant argue with you right now because your right the only people who have chips right now have them in there left hand but those werent the mandatory ones those were freewill ones they could of had them put anywheres just about it the ones for you and me the mandatory ones will be where the bible said they will be but at this point i cant PROVE that but you know the info and on the day they give you the choice right hand or forehead remember me please

  • @riverstory87 ya don't forget jesus said some people that were alive listening to him would not taste of death before the end of the world...so are you saying there are some 2000 year old dudes walking around?Matthew 8:5-7 The Centurion approached Jesus, beseeching help for a sick servant. Luke 7:3 & 7:6-7 The Centurion did not approach Jesus. He sent friends.Matthew 5:1-2 first sermon on the mount. Luke 6:17 & 20 first sermon in the plain. the gospels are full of mistakes like this.

  • @alltiedup217 Your are mistaken friend, Christ said : Luke 9:27

    But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God.” He did not say the End of the World... this was fulfilled in the same Chapter right after when St. Peter, John and James saw Him transfigured on the Mountain with Moses and Elijah who came down from Heaven. And also with St. John who the Angels showed Him the coming World.

  • @DivineAegis02what did he mean by "Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.Matt 23:36" or when they said" blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.Rev 1:1-3 near its been 2000 plus years .“Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.” soon near sound like they are talking about the end of the world and that they thought it would happen soon. you'er mistaken

  • @DivineAegis02 they don't agree on what happened All three Synoptics date the Transfiguration. Luke notes eight days Matthew and Mark note six days .Mark 16:14-19 Jesus ascends while he and his disciples are seated at a table in or near Jerusalem,Matthew 28:16-20 - Jesus’ ascension isn’t mentioned,but Matthew ends at a mountain in Galilee,Luke 24:50-51 Jesus ascends outisde, after dinner, and at Bethany and on the same day as the resurrection,ohn - Nothing about Jesus’ ascension is mentioned

  • And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

  • And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.(Revelation 13:16-18)

  • @riverstory87 ya where did it say anything about a computor chip? that would not be put in your forehead or your hand.

  • Well i respect those that find religion from atheism the most as they almost always have a religious experience to switch their views. Nothing wrong with being atheist thought other than their wrong. I was atheist once , and i can tell you if your a good person that isnt just held in check by your fear of god then you would be a good person even if there was no belief in him also. I also dont like this new attack atheism thought. I was never like that.

  • An athiest would rather pluck out there own eyes then see the truth (Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Luke 6:39)

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  • Atheism is another word for unrighteousness and licentiousness,without a good moral foundation people do what they want without thought of how it affect's other's and future generation's.The joy of knowing that if you love your fellow man and live with the foundation Jesus Christ bestowed upon us that we can be with him forever in paradise and make the world we live in a better place for everyone now and in the future to be apart of.

  • that*

  • The internet and free information dont do many favours for religion.

    I would probably still be a Mormon right now had it not been for free information on the internet. (well, maybe I wouldnt be a mormon still, who knows)

  • You believe in the christian god from where you were born is the most likely reason. 99% of people who live in the middle east are MUSLIM. I wonder why that is? Maybe because their parents and everyone around them are also MUSLIM. 1.5 billion people are wrong according to you.

    Im guessing you are from USA or some other country dominated by christianity.

    How do you prove Jesus IS God?

  • @liamlloyd77 lol one more thing i suppose i cant prove that hes real but maybe good deeds and love will one day help others to want the peace i feel

  • I know you answered them. I asked again at the exact same time you posted your answer

  • Its gods fault for not looking after that child. Fuck the parents, they are a creation of god too! You really dont get it do you lol

    Do you believe dinosaurs existed? Do you believe the earth is 6000 years old?

  • @liamlloyd77 i just answered those question

  • Where do you live? No doubt you are a white guy in north america.

    Why do you deny the Muslim and Jewish God and their books? Ill tell you why, because you were born in a christian country. Random selection is the only reason you are christian. If you were born in the middle east you would be muslim proclaiming muhammads message right now.

    If you were born in ancient greece you would be proclaiming zeus and apollo

  • @liamlloyd77 You dont know why i believe in god you just threw something out there that was pleasing to your own ears white black red race doesnt matter to god nor me i have seen the power of the lord i have felt his presence and i know hes real hes affected my life in every way hes always in my thoughts just as i have faith i am in his

  • By the way, true story, my grandma died this week and she was an atheist and didn't confess shit either. I stayed awake for a whole four days with her until she passed

  • @liamlloyd77 But differences aside i am truly sorry to hear about your grandmothers passing athiest or christian its sad to lose one you love i know how it feels

  • @riverstory87 Well thank you for that. Everyone dies and I am just happy I was there to help her die peacefully :)

  • @liamlloyd77 Im glad you was there im sure she got alot of comfort from it listen where not going any wheres with our argument(debate)lol but it feels good to express your points and views with someone that will express his right back i cant change you and vice versa but in a way ive had fun youve been a good challenge man maybe ill see you on one of these videos again and we can start a new one up sometime lol anyways havea good one man hope all works out for you

  • @riverstory87 lol ok man I had fun too. Im gonna go sip a glass of wine now like Jesus did ;) I like Jesus, I just dont believe he is God, peace :)

  • @liamlloyd77 :) same bro

  • @riverstory87 p.s please consider voting for hat ron paul guy. Im English so I don't have a stake in the outcome of your elections, but i've seen what he stands for and it gives me hope. Well he is a baptist and doesn't believe in evolution too, so maybe you will consider him. All other candidates (including the MORMON Romney and Obama) are elitists who want to install those rfid chips on us that you were talking about. I saw the Aaron Russo interview way back bro

  • @liamlloyd77 Don't worry i am, iv'e been all over youtube,topix and facebook trying to get other supporters.Ron Paul 2012!!!lol

  • LOL At your comment that is in the top comments with two thumbs up! LOL

    My dad also tells me the same thing. He is a Mormon and even wears this special underwear shit with a mark on the knee lining to mark that very "scripture"

    Well Christians also say the same thing that atheists all of a sudden believe in God before they are about to die. Well others have told me that too. Richard Dawkins said he is going to record his death on tape to debunk that bullshit! lol

  • I bet you're one of those that believes the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs didnt exist etc Am I right?

  • @liamlloyd77 no your wrong again there are dinosaur bones why would i deny whats right in my face the bible only goes back 6000 years with people but the world could very possibly be much older but it makes no difference how long its been around thats just something to continue arguments between christians and sscientist just no point in that it doesnt matter if its been here for 5 billion years

  • @riverstory87 Because many christians cant accept that fact. They think god put them there to test our faith or some shit.

    There is no argument. Sorry, the earth is billions of years old, the human race is insignificant and we will be extinct before the world ends.

    Is the earth the centre of the universe?

  • You confuse my beliefs and many atheist beliefs of life after death. We don't believe in your silly idea that we will go to this amazing white place filled with christians. Many of us would GUESS that we are APART of the UNIVERSE and not separate to it. Death doesn't exist in that sense, as we are the universe.

    Excuses again. Parents leave there children at age 1 week. We're not talking about grown up adults. We're talking about helpless babies. You cant excuse shit so you dodge the question

  • @liamlloyd77 What excuses if the parents leave their children at the age of 1 week then shame on them not shame on god dont be silly hows it gods fault people choice to do the things they do hes not gonna make them do what he wants he just wants them to if they choice to be monsters and sentence their own children to death by not tending to them then its on them adopt them if it weighs on your heart so much send money send food do what you can god gave you compassion for a reason

  • How do you explain the food cycle? God lets animals survive by killing and eating other animals? Seriously, wake up and smell the shit already. This world is but a ride and a hologram. Only when we die will we know our real purpose that our little minds cant comprehend on earth

  • @liamlloyd77 You say your an animal with intelligence start eating fruits and vegetables dont eat animals if it bothers you and how can you say that we will find out whats on the other side when we die if you dont believe in life after death you believe in darkness after death and nothing more

  • And yes I know aids and other such deseases were created by man to keep the population of the planet under "control" but it was all done with Gods consent.

    If God didn't want to give aids that poor african mother who did nothing in her life but good deeds, then he wouldnt have given it her. Again, more proof God does not give a fuck lol You are blind

  • @liamlloyd77 you are very thick you know that lol ive told you god doesnt make our decisions he gave us freewill for a reason i mean why would parents clean up after there children after there grown they can clean up after themselves now

  • lol The parents are trash. Dear me. Even if they were trash (which they're not, they simply can't help being in poverty) God made this "trash" and he made every evil thing (torture, rape, murder, cancer, aids, emotions of anger and jealousy) in this world, even hell itself, according to you. But God is also perfect and loves us all so much. Sorry, if you believe this I can not help but laugh, sorry lol

  • @liamlloyd77 God didn't make these people he made the original set the steps they took through all these generations has been there own along with there choices

  • @riverstory87 Let me get this straight. You believe we (humans) are separate to the earth. Is that correct?

    You believe we are not part of this earth but we are special in gods eyes. Is this correct?

  • @liamlloyd77 we are very special in gods eyes

  • @riverstory87 Right we are very special, but every other animal has a pointless life and their lives only exist in this world and not the next

    And you call me thick haha You're the one who believes in an old looking man that lives in the sky that throws you in hell if you do this and that. Some powerful God he is when he cant even control his creation to believe in whether he exists or not

    You know the most peaceful countries are atheist? Highest IQ countries are ahtiest. hmm why

  • @liamlloyd77 youv'e been busy while i stepped away lol but no the bible say's there will be animals in heaven only 10 percent of the world is athiest by the way there is no athiest country just athiest in countrys founded on religion your hero dawkin even said that as for iq levels dawkins also stated that there are intelligent people in both partys but he doesnt believe the idea of religion is intelligent another bit of info you didn't look up before posting

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  • @riverstory87 Thats 10% more than it was 30 years or so ago.

    Religion is dying in the western world and experts predict in some countries it will be extinct before the new century. Im in the UK and pretty much every kid I knew in school was atheist. 40% of people here were atheists in 2001 and its probably more like 50% now. This is an intelligent country like Japan, Canada and New Zealand are also atheist.

    Dawkins never said religious people are clever. He said they are deluded.

  • @liamlloyd77 your statistics are wrong they estimated 10 percent in 2010 in the whole world i just watched an interview on it go to google and it will tell you the same thing actually google states that there 2 different opinions on percentage of athiest one is a little over 2 percent the other is 10 deluded doesnt mean ignorant it means you have a false view or opinion and yes he said there is intelligence on both sides

  • @riverstory87 I never said your 10% stat was wrong. I said over 40% of people here in the UK are atheists, not the world.

    Im not surprised it is only 10% in the whole world, since 2/3 of the world live in poverty stricen countries in the middle east and africa.

    The majority of those 10% live in Europe, Australasia, Japan and Canada etc (Western Countries) USA is getting there. Atheism is the fastest growing group in USA

    Someone can be clever and deluded at the same time.

  • Its funny you believe Jesus' teachings was "treat people as you would like them to treat you" but you also believe he is god and throws his creation in hell for all eternity. Maybe Jesus likes hell too then?

    Thats some stupid shit, sorry

  • 6:57 ^^

  • Where is God for all those righteous christians in muslim countries who are being tortured and beheaded for confessing their belief in jesus?

    Nowhere to be seen, nowhere to be heard. He don't care for you anymore than anyone or anything else thats why. We arent special, we're animals who happen to have developed intelligence (for some at least). Why are some animals more smart than others? Simple evolution.

  • Lmao Jesus is DEAD and gone just like any other human who was around 2000 years ago. You do realise that is one of the biggest sins in islam, worshipping a man who they dont believe to be god. Thats worst than atheism to them lol

    Jesus can come back on magic carpet and walk on water all he likes, he is still an asshole for letting all this bad stuff happen. But I know he is not an asshole because he isn't god and never was. He was just a kind man and people loved him for his message.

  • Ron Paul has predicted so much crap thats happened, like the recessions and the housing bubbles and the decline of the dollar. Doesn't make him a prophet of god.

    Well that guy is a baptist and doesnt even believe in evolution but I will be voting for him because his views on freedom and the constitution that is being taken away from us each year by internationalist bankers.

  • Life is short, do you think you know everything?One day when your life will end,(Imagine simply, such a day )you will have? many questions and fears .search path of truth and life, now when you have time .Be smart !Eternal life is found only in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world .You can start serching truth :,,A DYING MANS LAST WORDS, A MESSAGE FROM GOD ,,or ,,Saint Faustina 1 of 6 on you tube A Muslim's Conversion to Christianity - Part 2 .etc please search !!

  • This guy is all about the word 'issue'

  • What about the prophecy's of the bible that's came true and the thing's that were talked about 2000 years ago that are being set into motion in our day and age.How could these men know the future if it not being for a superior other.Science is great helping people in many way's but science cant prove that god isn't real and it cant prove that he wasn't the creator of the universe.Just as we cant prove that he was, i cant change your mind and vice versa.

  • And for the record, even if there was some supposedly "loving" God, he can go suck his mothers penis because there is much bad things that happen here on earth and he doesn't give a shit (that is if he existed)

    I don't respect a God who punishes his creation and throws them in hell. He has a bad attitude and is probably an alcoholic who is pissed all the time because he cant get laid. Fuck him

  • Well look at all the atheist countries, they are the most peaceful and civilized. Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, Canada are all majority atheist and are the most peaceful countries on planet earth. How do you explain this?

  • @liamlloyd77 You are crazy japan sent kamikaze pilot's to destroy pearl harbor then run there plane's into our ship's and building's.Germany was the country that adolf hitler gained power and 6 million jews died not to mention countless live's from around the world real civilized dummy do research before posting nonsense.Every country on your list has been in war none of us are different every country's the same just with different view's about why they do what they do.

  • @riverstory87 You told me that it is better to believe because then you have nothing to lose. Well according to your logic, you had better believe in Islam because the God of Islam will send you to hell for worshipping Jesus (a man) That is one of the worst things you can do in islam. You are an atheist to islam and so am I. But you call me crazy for not believing in your God but your not crazy for not beleiving in the muslim god. You have no logic, sorry.

  • atheist is not really a title is it. Thats like me saying a man with no hair has a certain hair color.

    Its simply no belief in a god. Its not "I know there is no god", its simply I dont believe in a god as i have no reason to

  • @liamlloyd77 What do you mean atheism isn't a title everything has a title, your labeled for what you believe.You believe in science and not religion that's an athiest retard and just because someone's bald doesn't mean they don't have hair color,they still have eyebrow's don't they or body hair in general and it has a color.

  • @riverstory87 That is just the thing lol atheist dont believe anything. They dont believe there is a god and they dont believe there isnt. They dont claim to know about the unknown.

    Lmao I am a retard because I listen to science hehe this is funny to me because I know you actually mean what you say lol

    That was some 80 years ago when Japan had dictators etc Im talking about the people of those countries, not one or two men in power. Adolf was a catholic, sorry.

  • @liamlloyd77 You say you don't believe in anything then IMMEDIATELY post that you follow science that's believing in something and scientist believe in evolution and the big bang theory.(Sorry for calling you retarded)

  • @riverstory87 Science is factual. Its not something I have to blindly believe, its something which can be proven with tests.

    And when i said that i was merely referring to the idea of god and nothing else. we dont believe anything about god. I would like to know what makes jesus god and the muslim god the false god. what evidence do u have which makes u believe one religion but not another?

    its ok, hopefully jesus will forgive your disgraceful sins haha jk bro

  • @liamlloyd77 The mark of the beast is talked about in the book of revelations written nearly 2000 years ago it says that in the final day's a mark is to bestowed on all the people of the world big and small rich and poor free and bond.That people who don't take the mark will not be allowed to buy,sell or trade it was very specific of the placement of this mark in the right hand or forehead now do some research on the rfid chip, Aaron Russo has some interesting info for you as well then post back

  • @riverstory87 What prophesy exactly has come true? Talking snakes? Talking burning bushs? Science has nothing to do with god, it simply gives us the facts and is developing fast. Maybe someday it will tell us why we are here.

    So basically you believe in a god who allows all this bad crap to happen and "tests" his creation with some sick joke. Why do 50,000 africans die of starvation everyday and most of the them are children? Some test they had in this "fair" trial of life.

  • @liamlloyd77 God has given us the ability to make our own decisions our own choice's,children starve in africa because the people of africa will not stop fighting and waging war's against one another.Are you telling me that africans cant hunt for food i would before i died of starvation do they not look after one another in that country are the people that heartless they cant feed there young why is god to blame for our choices.Why is everyone so blind they cant see what's right in front of them

  • @riverstory87 No baby africans can not hunt for food and there is only dirty water available to them (by Gods grace of course)

    The whole of africa is infested with aids and poverty. No not all of them are at war. Only the dictators do that. Sorry, but your excuses make me feel ill as though these people can do anything other than starve and drink dirty water. You expect babies to pop out of the womb and go fend for himself. Not smart thinking, sorry.

  • @liamlloyd77 Why do these people have children if they cant give them food and water is god forcing them to continue making babies.They have streams pond's lakes rivers and surely they are smart enough to dig a well i mean come on how do you think we got our water before it started coming in a bottle.don't give me propaganda on how it doesn't rain as much there because of the equator because it rains plenty and even if it didn't people that live in desert region's do just fine WHERES THE PARENTS

  • @liamlloyd77 Why do people expect god to tend to everyone when they are capable of doing it themselves.As for the children again where are the parent's and nobody truly know's where aids comes from most scientist will agree it came from monkey's and it's possible that people had sex with them or was in direct contact with there blood the case of aids is stronger in africa because that's where it is believed to have originated from and in any case if these dummy's know that aids is so popular

  • @riverstory87 then why continue sleeping with everyone that they can

  • @liamlloyd77 and one more thing i left out the poverty you speak of is due to CONSTANT FIGHTING being done in that country they cant stop killing each other and its not just a hand full of people it's basically a civil war over there

  • @riverstory87 I wont be talking with you anymore if you're that ignorant to understand the situation in Africa. Not everyone is in civil war. People cant even stand up and walk they are so weak of malnutrition. I'd love for you to be in their position and blame it on yourself. You're so reliant on the government that you think everything in this world comes for free. Where are you gonna get your water when you have no money and no government water supply? Please dont message back

  • @liamlloyd77 Kid iv'e been hunting my whole life i know how to fish make trap's snare animal's i spent the better part of a day in the wood's at one point making fire with two sticks blister's all over my hand's but just know that the fire I made had the prettiest flame i did it to prove to myself that i could i dont need the government for anything there just here as for africa you act like the continent could die any day now from starvation it's not gonna happen guy if you want someone to pity

  • @riverstory87 save it for us 1 in every 6 american's go hungry wheres your sense of good will when it comes your own people your mind jumped straight to africa if they cant fend for themselves after all these years then they are ignorant

  • @riverstory87 Hey why dont god come strike me dead? I mock him like he is a little insect lol Ill tell you why, because he doesnt even care that I mock him never mind about some little african child desperately drinking dirty water because he will die anyway.

    Well I will tell you one thing. I would rather be in hell where God does not reside, than live with his bad attitude the rest of eternity

  • @riverstory87 Yes and in most parts of africa there is no fish and nothing to fish with. You are very ignorant, and you blame those people who dont have a clue how to live at 3 months year old they die and you dont blame god. Well I will say it for the last time. God can go fuck his mother. He is a prick. Jesus is not god as god does not exist. Not a loving one at least

  • @liamlloyd77 You are too stubborn to have a conversation with, you avoid answering all the questions asked of you and stick directly to god and how unfair you believe he is(wheres the parents).Hook's can be made of bone,you can use small stone's for weight's the rod can be made of stout limbs(sapling) the line can be made of wound up plants or animal hyde(etc)they can make nets there are plenty of other ways to catch fish(wheres the parents).If you die for jesus you live forever in his kingdom

  • @riverstory87 western africa does struggle with fish because the great lakes are on the eastern part but there are still fish just not as plentiful and they can animals cant they bows and arrows can be made along with spears traps this of course is assuming they dont have anything imported in which they do.What about dog's they are the same family but some are smarter then others they all serve different purposes useful in different ways this goes for all animals and another jesus forewarned

  • @riverstory87 that many would die in his name because people are monsters

  • @riverstory87 You are the one blaming african children for not finding clean water and the ability and knowledge to hunt at 3 months old. You call me stubborn? You just can't accept that if there was ever a god, he clearly doesn't care what happens

    Hell I can call him names and mock him all day and he doesn't care.

    And what questions are you talking about? You didn't ask any. Ask away and I will answer, but one question at a time.

    Jesus is dead, sorry.

  • @liamlloyd77 im not blaming african children for anything im saying that the parent's are trash if they bring a child into this world and dont give it what it needs to survive speaking of parent's and not asking question's ive asked you where there at several times with no reply you say most of them are not off fighting there fellow man then they should be home with there kids hunting and collecting water nobody expects a child to be able to fend for themselves its the parents job where are they

  • @liamlloyd77 So god doesnt care about this world but let me ask you something would you pick a man up and carry him on your back if there was nothing wrong with him except laziness no you wouldn't then why would god fix our problem's that we have created knowing that we have the power to fix it ourselves but no we continue fighting instead of coming together and setting our differences aside reread my posts ive asked plenty of questions no point in retyping whats already there

  • @riverstory87 Damn you are dumb. For the fourth time, we're not talking about laziness, we're talking babies that are just weeks old dying of starvation and desease. There are no excuses and you cant accept that fact because you believe in the invisible old man in the sky.

    Well i've had enough speaking with ignorance. Bye

  • @liamlloyd77 babies that are weeks old feed from there mothers breast they dont even drink water dummy or eat regular food you make fake facts up as you go to suit your argument and again god doesnt force our decisions we make them ourselves so if you kill and torture and rape you deserve to be brought down we all gotta die somehow if we lived forever life would be meaningless but many scientist believe aids was created in a lab by MAN in the sixties it wasnt around before then do research on it

  • @riverstory87 And what if there parents are dead and they are laying in the street? Damn you come up with excuses, but can't accept anything lol

    Just accept that bad shit goes off in this world and you claim God made EVERYTHING.

    If God already knows what our decisions will be, then why don't he just throw me in hell right now. Again, he does not dare, because he does not care. Your God is weak, and can't even control his own creation lol I don't respect him much as you can tell

  • @liamlloyd77 Why dont you talk about all the good god has created why are you stuck on bad things are you that miserable that you cant see the light what about love and good will towards man and why cant the men in africa hunt for there familys why are they starving when there are animals EVERYWHERE it makes no sense if my wife and child was hungry i would go kill a deer or a turkey something anything plenty out there for nourishment poverty get real can they not live off the land

  • @riverstory87 I dont talk about the good, because thats all you religious folk talk about already. You look at the good and say god has nothing to do with the bad.

    Again, I dont even believe an old man in the sky exists, but im just trying to relate to your primitive thinking.

    Babies shouldnt have to rely on their dads, they should have to rely on god. And if their parents are dead, then what? There is no food or government programs like in USA. Id love to see u try to survice there as a kid

  • @liamlloyd77 God made this world and every thing good in it then he made man to serve him and gave him free will and in our own lustful hearts we hurt other people we enslaved nations and went to war so every thing bad in this world came from us in the beginning economys are bad because of wars plain and simple no other esplanation our great depression in the 30s that was war our economical crisis now thats because of was as well and guess what africas poor economical issues are because of WAR

  • @liamlloyd77 It's stubborn contempt for what's good in this life a rebellious carnal minded endeavor to destroy what you don't believe in.As for prophesy it was foretold the arrival of jesus before he was born the mark of the beast is another but there are hundreds do some research if jesus came back and started performing miracles in front of you and preach to you the same thing would happen that happened 2000 years ago you would ridicule him call him a liar some countrys would kill him

  • @riverstory87 just know that when he does come back the bible say's that EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS so get your knee pads ready your gonna need them

  • @riverstory87 amen brother!

  • Babies are more atheists than any adult lol they don't even believe in the IDEA of God. Must have been nice to be a baby... until then the sick idea of a god who punishes his creation is introduced to them

  • dearest Alistar McGrath, you may well prefere the quiet atheist but that day may well be gone

    religion on the whole has done nothing to inspire the quiet peaceful cohabitation of diffrence and chioce so it is left to others to do the job of curbing the ignorance of "my god is better because i say so and if you dont belive it you are shit, imoral and doomed"

    the "shit, imoral and doomed" show solidarity and push back and you dont know why ?????

    very strange

  • every christian is an "atheist turned christian"

  • @liamlloyd77 That's another one of those ignorant opinions

  • @riverstory87 How is that an opinion? No one is born a christian. They are born into christian families or they learn about christianity later in life. We knew nothing as babies, dumbass

  • @liamlloyd77 First of all just because your not a christian doesn't mean you dont believe in god and second not knowing is different from not believing. In one situation you know the info but refuse to except it in the other you dont know because it hasn't been presented to you but that doesn't make you an atheist.You (FIRST) would have to know about religion to not believe in it fool.

  • @riverstory87 lol you just proved my point silly. When you are born you don't even know the idea of god so you dont believe in something you know nothing about = atheist. No belief in God.

    Yes people will know about god when they grow up and still not believe and that would still make the atheists.

    And for the record I was bought up in a religious home and believed that crap as a naive youngster and now im a sick evil twisted atheist. ha

  • @liamlloyd77 So you jumped on the atheism bandwagon, I dont understand how someone can completely change their beliefs it's too unstable, foundation is weak. Most atheist are hateful as well not saying your one of those types of course but atheism to me is sad. Once you die your gone for good, your soul(spirit) isn't alive its just certain emotions which are given a title.But one of is wrong hope you made the right choice if not bad consequences await if i made the wrong one then...nothing

  • @riverstory87 Any kid who is raised in religion will believe. Its what my parents taught me so of course I believed them. Then I began to learn critical thinking for myself at the age of 12 or something and started to study science and the bad things that happen to good people. How can YOU believe in an old invisible man that lives in the sky judging us and licking his lips on what punishments he will give us next. Thats crazy to me

    The Muslim and Jewish god will send u to hell

  • @liamlloyd77 But your right if you are a baby in way you are an atheist but i believe it unfair to be given a title when your not of the understanding mind to defend your own beliefs

  • anyway there is no point to get angry or make fun or another stuff because when people make fun of there religion makes them feel bad so way do it for you it may be funny but not for them is serious stuff for them but again thats being human humans like violence and want to feel more intelligent Superior  then others. not all but some do about want to feel superior then others

  • So whats the big deal some even may say will we will never discover or create important stuff yes we will prove that believing in God and science can get along the Mayas they had the most accurate calendar knew about the lunar cycle and many more why not can a science guy or girl believe God created science