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  • This song's rock f*cking high! I love MacAlpine!

  • Tony is legit.

  • fuck i can only play the first minute of the song ahhhh

  • holy shit i am blown away by how much racism is on here. i mean its one thing if its a president but a fucking guitar player????? if you heard this without seeing him you would love it.

  • @fastcarsnguitars1 Thank you. It is just stupid, and that's all I have to say about it. This music is freakin' awesome.

  • It's nice you showed a picture of Tony and Billy ,they played on this album together.

  • this song is fucken difficult to learn on guitar trust me im learning it as i write this

  • yeaaah tony kick ass of malmsteen

  • Tony can do the most insane runs I've ever heard, stanza after stanza, verse after chorus. The man can adapt to every part of the chord progression without having to break. And as a lifelong Malmsteen fan, that is something that is hard for me to admit!

  • Tony is a little to "technique" for me...

  • Shouldn't we all love this music?

  • Yngwie invented this style of playing, and inspired a whole generation of guitarists. I'm so sick of people and their opinions.

  • Malmsteen and MacAlpine are both successfully and immensely skilled and commendable in their own rights.

    But why am I saying this? I'm listening to a fucking MacAlpine track. This man is godly. I love this one.

  • You guys are spot on! The sheer ferocity of Tony's approach, far outweighs any of Malmsteens Classical Correctness!

  • pc rapes all shitty systems

  • I can see where Guilty Gear got their music inspiration.

  • Tony MacAlpine's "The Raven" played to Edgar Allan Poe's "The Raven".

    Bi-Winning, it would perhaps likely be.

  • His shredding reminds me soo much of Vinnie Moore.I love his style and compostions though.

  • @kytrev27 Yeah, It's also interesting to know that Tony Macalpine played the keyboard for some of Vinnie Moore's albums such as The Maze.

  • Tony MacAlpine is a beast!!!!

  • 2 people clicked dislike because... um... well, I guess they just didn't like the song!!!

  • That must be some raven.

  • One of the most interesting things about Macalpine, apart from his extremely creative and distinctive playing, is as he said himself, many other neo-classical guitarists are/were mainly influenced by baroque style but macalpine was more influenced from Romance era music, which makes this conversion into instrumental metal guitar extremely interesting, and Tony's excellent musical training set the foundation for an amazing composer and improvisational soloist.

  • @splattyfish Yes indeed.

  • @splattyfish Interesting. Yeah I agree that the Romantic Era had more diverse sounds to it. Not as predictable as the Baroque Era. If you are interested, we got a message board dedicated to neo-classical metal.

  • @mavsfan1000 I also agree romantic>baroque at least for guitar, however impressionistic>romantic...i always wanted to do some Debussy esq guitar work.

  • Wish Tony would properly tour and play this stuff today.

  • tonys music is highest quality!!

  • Sounds like it could be a video game song!

  • great intsrumenatal

  • Second solo is amazing : )

  • Even after all these years and I am now 28 years old this is still one of my all time favorites!!!!! 

  • WHO THE HELL CARES IF HE IS BLACK OR WHITE OR ANY OTHER RACE ,AND WHO CARES IF ROCK WAS INVENTED BY A CERTAIN COLOR SKIN ,THE FACT IS IT SOUNDS KICKASS .......LIVE IN THE HERE AND NOW AND LET YOUR CULTURAL DIFFERENCES VANISH LIKE DUST IN THE WIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

  • @pampasg Glad to read that comment :-)

  • @theawakener7 So yes more and more white people "regress" into black music which is interesting because if is was superior why do white people need to always do black music? and for the love of God Gary moore is the best white blues guitarists you can come up with, you loose credibility on that bullshit alone. Talk to me again when you do some homework son and I hope your one black friend upgrades you for a better white friend.

  • @theawakener7 Black sabbath believe or not started out as a blues band as said by Toni Iommi then came heavy metal, Angus Young, Eddie Van Halen and the list goes on and on. virtually every white rock star learned from a black man directly or indirectly. Blues can't be melancholy rock if blues was here before rock, and what does that even mean anyway there are melancholy rock songs. More people on a global scale listen to blues based music(black music), i e Country, rock, R&B, pop, etc

  • @Product1999 Pop and country are not black based music.Buttttttt I do commend the blacks for their awesome contribution to rock and blues!

  • @Soldano88 Thank you for your unsubstantiated claim. My turn. Elvis, Tupac, and Biggie are still alive, and we never landed on the moon.

  • @theawakener7 hell they are all playing jazz which is basically blues. Stevie Ray Vaughan is imitating Jimi Hendrix and Albert King two black guys. Hell jimi is considered the best rock guitarists of all time by white and black guitarists alike and he loved buddy guy(black man). John Lennon said if he could rename rock n roll he would call it Chuck Berry. Keith Richards said Chuck(black man) invented rock n roll.

  • @theawakener7 White people just made up their own names and rules for something that has been in existence long before they came in contact with it. Europeans were not making classical music until they went to Africa the land where all human beings originated, its scientific fact. Take cream for example Clapton said specifically he looked for black guitar players to emulate like robert Johnson, Buddy Guy etc, Ginger Baker went to nigeria to brush up on his drum skills and made a dvd about it.

  • @theawakener7 really, then it must make you sad when so many white people regress into black music like the blues. Eric Clapton, Rolling stones, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith to name a few.

  • Grew up listening to Tony Macalpine, got to meet him once, and he was cool. Nice guy and talented. Thanks for meeting me........

  • @paulcore2000 I met Tony too but I was star struck so we didn't click lol!

  • @Soldano88 Tony is a great musician but runs from his fans I am witness to this twice..

  • @Soldano88 Really? Why?

  • what happened to agrionia? i cant find it, i love that tune agrionia, its so classical, elegant,

  • the song is off edge of insanity, a great album, not one bad song, and with steve smith on drums and billy sheehan on bass, can't go wrong there, like the muffling of the notes he does hear,

  • gogo macalpine

    idolo

  • so i hear you like to play castlevaaaaaaaania

  • epicness

  • Macalpine Vai Schenker Lynch all great players i went to see S Vai on his breed tour just to get the chance to meet Tony hes my hero the guy has some of the most wicked tasty chops from the guys i mention above when you become a real guitar player you lighten up on the hes better than him attitude because i crave the knowledge to become super fierce like all the shredders who came before me if you just like one performer you limit your chances at getting better imo.

  • Great track this!! Thanks for posting

  • compairing guitar greats such as tony,blackmoore or whatever is not in the minds of most giutar player minds I like to think they are all gods and we should be lucky to have them.fools stick out.

  • This is just sick....blows my hair way back! skin peeling off my face

  • este tema es genial! y tiene mi nombre! XD

  • I love this song.

    especially the muted notes in the intro melody.

    Amazing guitarist, very inspiring.

  • looks like mr Sheehan @ 2:55

  • Yeah that's Billy. He played with Tony on this album and they tour together often.

  • I found this track by accident, but i have to admit am really enjoying listening to this track! Don't know if any of you guys have played Guilty Gear but this sounds similar to a lot of the BGM

  • i wish they remaster the album edge of insanity.

    deep cutting  80's sound. its great only on headphones.

  • Where is the picutre at 1:50 from?

    Also: incredible song.

  • Awsome tune, loved the palm muted bits

  • Blackmore ruling the PLANET,no less. L;OL

    Kids.....

  • Malmsteen beat blackmore at his own game whatever your name is...

  • i love tony....but the stuff i have heard lately sounds terrible.....his tone is gone....i have only heard live stuff, so if someone can direct me to some new stuff they like i would appreciate it.....i have been out of the loop as far as tony goes since maximum security

  • slowhand111666, I agree. I have always respected Macalpine skills,but I prefer his earlier tone,solos,etc

    It's strange how some players seem to evolve. another guy like that is Troy Stetina.....his earlier stuff was incredible: tone ,emotion,style....now he plays that boring prog metal stuff.

    'The Raven' is one of my fav tracks

  • i guess some people get board of playing and hearing the same type of music but i will never get sick of stuff like this and gn'r

  • There's definitely a few tingly moments.

  • Another masterpiece by the great Tony Macalpine.

    The amount of feeling and melody in this song is endless.

  • Both Yngwie and Macalpine are masters in this style, although, TO ME, Macalpine is the more authentic of the two, having been educated in classical music conservatories since early childhood and having performed in the classical world as a pianist. He also, of course, studied music in college. Without question, of hte two, he is the most schooled. As for playing, his style is, again, TO ME, more diverse.

    Still, giving due credit, Malmsteem is a genius, and the guitar world owes him a debt.

  • He also has better tone and, more interesting phrasing in my opinion

  • And Yngwie hasn't been in the classical music world forever, you say..?

    I agree that his playstyle is more interesting and diverse.. I especially love this one..

  • malmsteen never deviates from the same arpeggios and scale runs. He never uses anything but 16th notes and stuff that'll divide evenly, and rarely ventures from a harmonic/melodic/natural minor scale. And lets just forget about non chord tones.

    Tony is far greater in musicality than malmsteen can ever hope to be.

  • I think you'll find if you actually read the transcriptions of Malmsteen's work (and more importantly listen), there is an abundance of odd tuplets. 11:8 for instance (11 notes played to the same time value of 8 demisemiquavers)

  • You know what's amazing. You two are actually discussing and not spamming. It's crazy. I love the mac, but like olympic1 said, malmsteen does have quite a bit of influence.

  • Id say Tmac and Vinnie Moore are more comparable and Yngwie and Batio are more comparable. The reason, Tmac and Moore and very diverse, not all about speed, very technical, whereas Yngwie and Batio are about speed and usually don't stray too far from there signature sound.

  • I know what 11:8 is XD

    I'd like to take Far beyond the sun for instance. In the music, there are seldom, if any notes that deviate from the harmonic minor scale progression. All his shred licks are either up and down the harmonic minor scale in a prescribed triplet and sextuplet pattern, and then back to sixteenth notes.

    No discredit to malmsteen himself, he was really first guitarist to use these scales to good effect, I just dont find him as strong as Macalpine.

  • "He never uses anything but 16th notes and stuff that'll divide evenly"

    11 doesn't divide into 8 evenly, does it? LOL

    I do agree with you about Yngwie's harmonic vocabulary and limited use of scales. I find Tony MacAlpine's compositions have far more "colour" too.

  • yeah, i didnt take a closer look to his music before. when you listen to it, it sounds like standard 4/4 share.

  • Yeah becasue Tony uses more then one fucking scale. If you can play one of malmsteen's song you can play 90% of his collection. Not true with tony... Lots of differnt shapes and sclaes not just a classic harmonic minor. It's actually amazing malmsteen can write so many songs with the same scales and shapes.

  • Malmsteen is great and in the old day he had insanely good tone and the best vibrato in the business. I prefer Tony's compositional style though.

  • @m4tthewk Tony is very good but I prefer greg howe. His tapping is just crazy and his alternate picking definitely good enough.

    Anyway, you all dis malmsteen but I bet the first time you heard him your jaws hit the ground. lol. I know mine did and I was already a dimeola , mclaughlin and morse fan!

  • @chillichomper malmsteen only has only 1 solo. he uses it on his every album and in every song and thats what makes me very reluctant to listen to him. he could spice his music up a bit, which he wont dont and its a pity because he would have the skill...

  • @gunsun weird... i barely read your comment, almost only saw it with the corner of my eye and i ended writing the same shit

  • @pandaeater123 Malmsteen popularized in the 80's, for being the youngest, fastest, guitarist during that era, neo classical style. Music has progressed, since the 80's, now incorporating more speed, complexity, etc.....

    Can't compare rocks to apples, it's like comparing Slipknot to Deep Purple. We should learn to appreciate, each individual musician/bands, and thier contribution to music.

  • @IZ1R7

    Bro, this was released in '85.

  • @pandaeater123 Oh, thanks didn't know that :)

  • @pandaeater123 I agree almost 100% But Yngwie is still good at what he does.Tony Is more musical I think too imho!

  • @pandaeater123 well it has always sounded like malmsteen had only 1 solo and you can hear it on his every album and every song

  • @pandaeater123

    Since when was music a competition?

    Music is subjective. Music can't be measured. There is no "better" musician, and no "winner" or "loser".

    I'm not going to bring up the apples and oranges idiom because I'm sure you've heard it before. Instead you choose to ignore it. Such a shame because I was starting to see a change for the better on here...

  • @direstraitingit007

    I believe the reason for this is because complex music forces either introspection, or creative / abstract thought.

    Some people just can't think this way. So it creates an immediate disconnect in the brain.

  • @pandaeater123 yngwie started it, there would be no such thing as any shredders, no paul gilbert there were 3 rock heros that changed the world, jimi hendrix, vanhalen, yngwie. buy the way you should check out peter banfield! he rules

  • @zgtfreak You forgot Ritchie Blackmore, without him and Uli Jon Roth there wouldn't be an Yngwie.

    Also, there were guys like John McLaughlin and Al Di Meola...or Randy Rhoads....Holdsworth...the list goes on. All these guys had an influence on the shred movement, so it's pretty safe to say we would probably have lots of shredders even if there was no Yngwie.

  • @gxtksh329 Thanks for bringing up DiMiola. He was doin the speed picking before any of them. He and McLaughlin, although Al was cleaner and more melodic. Larry Coryell was shredding it out way back too, before he mellowed out. His old stuff is a little hard to find and back then he was sloppy by today's standards. But he deserves some props.

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  • @pandaeater123 100% true!

  • @pandaeater123 LMFAO Are you dumb XD

    he has evenly dividing note lines.. but man come on

    listen to the rest of his solos XD

    and divide that shit by anything... i dare you :P

    i also dare you to touch his skill

  • @ThatJustHappened14

    Find me a yngwie song that is not in 4.

    please.

    I've been looking, and i think I own every one of his CD's.

  • @pandaeater123 Haha ok look at mr. fucking expert here... stfu douchebag youre just a hater and you know jack shit.

  • @redbuffalo15

    Hey! Good job using well reasoned arguments to explain why I am neither an expert, and a douchebag! Clearly, your intellectual prowess is on levels unseen, your ability to reason, your quick wit and slightness of tongue has left me flabbergasted and confused! All bow before the mighty red buffalo, ruler of the land with his wisdom and power!

    But seriously, use your words.

  • @pandaeater123 malmsteen is awesome the first three years you play guitar, but after a while you start to realize his lack of fluidity and technique. As you said, he is terribly predictable, and for some reason he attempts to play blues.

  • @pandaeater123 OHH SHUT THE FUCK UP. are you kidding me you know dick shit about malmsteen if you just said that god dammit you ignorant steaming pile of trash.

  • @1withguitar

    why do people think a string of badly worded insults makes them right?

    I'll gladly admit i'm wrong, but i don't see how being an "ignorant steaming pile of shit" does anything to prove my incorrectness.

  • @pandaeater123

    Wait, so it's a competition now?

  • And when Macalpine started, Like Vinnie Moore and Impellitteri , they did copy him. Without doubt. The thing I love about them all is that they all became their own and and moved on with Yngwie still owning his own style. Nobody can compete with Ynwie playing neo classical ( especially after the orchestra album/video), but Vinnie Moore, Macalpine and Becker can do things Yngwie could never do, nor not to my knowledge? Yngwie would still win my best ability contest though

  • @jozwoz have you seen how ridiculous becker's technique was? no contest dude

  • @aaronmakowski maybe you wouldn't say that jason have a ridiculous technique if you know that he is self-taught :)

  • @pandaeater123 Trilogy is almost the same solo every cut. I have total respect for Malmsteens influence on music. Rising Force and Marching Out are must haves imo. But after that it's just more fof the same. He got boring real fast. Even the supposed concerto thing he did was just more Yngwie harm-minor scales. Same licks even. He's become sort of a parody of himself.

  • @IYAMNI

    Well said!

    It's like he is regurgitating the same thing over and over and only chooses when he will add a bend or whammy. Rising Force and Marching Out are awesome, I will agree as the stuff he did with Alcatraz.

  • Thank you so much for putting this up!

  • Tony's approach to neoclassical guitar is more free flowing than Yngwie in my opinion even though they are both my idols I'd rather jam w/Tony if I ever had the chance.I play my own style, very schizopherenic a litle bit of everything combined,that's what sets me apart,what sets Tony apart is pure genius,Agionia brings tears to my eyes to this day.First time I heard Edge of isanity I was 14 & I never outgrew it,awesome.

  • i remember when i went to the music store and saw his name so i picked it up and played a sample...i said,theres no possible way im hearing someone who can rival yngwie. ever since he's my fav neo classical guitarist

  • perfection

  • thanks for this, saves me plugging the speakers in on my record deck, this was third album i ever bought, scratched as hell from trying to learn the songs.

  • Love this song. Tony MacAlpine rocks.

  • This is a very cool song !!

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