Autism Talk TV - Ep. 10 - Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

[TMKristen]

alex is cute. lol

[KendrasPhilosophies]

actually i think while that thing was on you, your speech was WAY more fluid :o

[noblessus]

I'd be quite careful with this technology. Anyone who has studied physics and electromagnetism knows that this essentially forces a current to flow through an arbitrary path in your brain; i.e. it "forces" electricity to flow abnormally and unnaturally through unnatural paths in the brain. What they call "stimulation" is essentially random interference with the brain's natural workings. If the currents produced by the electromagnets are too high, they could literally fry normal brain circuitry.

[amdphreak]

the future awaits!

[d510g1c]

sounds just like getting high on some good weed!!

[xerxescat]

Thank you for posting this video. I was wondering how long you could feel the effects (benefits) of this treatment. Is it really a long-term treatment for autism? Or are the effects temporary and then one goes back to a 'diffuse' way of thinking?

Thanks!

[kxmode]

I have experiences like Jack's all the time. And it's not just sound and sight, but also smells. I can smells things people don't notice. I can hear things people don't notice (like a train off in the distance). I can also notice separation of noises from a cluster of sounds. With sight I notice a vibrancy in colors. For example I can tell the difference between pink and purple. Red and magenta. I can see words in colors, and colors in words. This happens all the time for me.

[paulwady]

No one has realized that this is direct brain programming.

Hello? BRAIN PASTICITY. SHE IS TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE STRUCTURES OF A HUMAN BRAIN.

In order to get what exactly? What does she mean by mental disorders? What parts of who and what we are will be permanently altered by this, that defines who and what we are as people?

As Aspies, parts of ourselves are totally invalid to our native cultures. The hyperactive/non-functional/cou­nterproductive bits. Antisocial behaviours etc.

[paulwady]

@paulwady But such elements of ourselves are also US. They are talking about changing bits of us. The bits that go to making the greater whole.

So: Who do you end up being when small 'disfunctional' fractions are changed?

As usual, value judgements on human beings functionalities. If it is ugly/loud/wierd - YOU - then it is crap and should be destroyed.

[J0ltC0la]

TMS can cause seizures. Is it worth it, to trade a difference for an actual brain malfunction?

[sushipie29]

Great job guys!

[theaspie1]

How exactly is this different from ECT??? Aspies, we are so guillable that I think we'd almost agree to a lobotomy if it were reccomended.

Adverse effects:

Immediately following treatment the most common adverse effects are confusion and memory loss.The acute effects of ECT can include amnesia, both retrograde (for events occurring before the treatment) and anterograde (for events occurring after the treatment)....

[theaspie1]

,,,is there any way we can STOP having asperger's labled as a "disorder" by NTs??? Oh no! we develop more neuro connections than NTs do!! How horrid that we, as a result, have little or no time for superficial matters like silly small talk, I can't believe that I can't get into a conversation about what was on House last night- how disordered I am!!

[theaspie1]

Jack's experience mirrors the one I had on mushrooms, no joke!

[temple26797]

Dropping all the high falutin language, they are going to tinker with people using the machine and see if anything positive happens. If somebody drops dead from it, scientific knowledge will have advanced!

They'd better have some good anti-lawyer papers to sign.

[WPSpecialKid]

I've actually had a similar experience to Jack's. It's indeed a weird feeling. However I've never tried anything like TMS, so it just happened naturally. Once in a while it still happens (like once every other year, if I'm lucky).

It's pretty amazing, but it's also damn difficult to describe to a person that haven't had this experience. Somewhat like describing the color blue to a person born blind.

[PinkPunkyKat]

On our planet we call this phusedoscience.

[PinkPunkyKat]

Non-invasive my ass.

[alikidry]

Jack's experience, especially, is fascinating! I'm often frustrated by my poor "filtering" abilities when processing sounds and sight. To be able to separate and focus like that would be a miracle to me. I note that it was apparently temporary, though. How long did it last, exactly?

[MAbility]

Thank you both so much for these excellent videos. As the parent of a child who is deeply autistic and nonverbal, my hope is that my son's autism is understood and clarified. So in that context this was very interesting.

Jack's experience was amazing. Keep making these unique episodes. Autism Talk TV is great!

[DenvrDave]

Very interesting! Jack's experience sounds a bit like synesthesia? Thanks for sharing.

[NexusStrider]

This is very interesting. I have also been reading about CES (Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation) such as the Alpha Stim. I was wondering if you could do a review of this product, which is probably more cost effective.

[noxure]

@NexusStrider I know CES therapy stimulates the brain to produce 'feel-good' neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. It's mostly used to treat drug addicts because their brains stopped making these chemicals on their own. People who naturally have low dopamine levels are usually just given rilatine/ritalin.

I think TMS and CES work very similarly, but TMS allows the neurologist to stimulate more specific regions of the brain.

[pkproductions0]

This is bizarre. I'm intrigued. I'm probably going to spend the rest of the day thinking about what it would be like to experience things differently. I think I would actually try this if I had the opportunity to do so. Thanks for another great video!

[theWrongPlanet]

@pkproductions0 Thanks!

[noxure]

How strong is the magnetic field? Can magnetic and electrical fields that are all around us in our daily lives also have an unintentional effects on the functioning of the brain?

Jacks experience just sounds pretty awesome, almost like he gained superpowers. :) how long did it last? The idea that a human brain has this untapped hidden potential that we can unlock using technology is very exciting to say the least.

[noxure]

@noxure Personally I hope in the future eventually everyone will have the chance to experience being a 'different person', even if it's just for a day.

I learned to cope with my condition, even gain some compensation for it and I'm even generally proud of who I am. But still, the feeling that somehow I'm missing something, or that you have to work a lot harder to achieve having a normal conversation with a stranger, never goes away.

[theWrongPlanet]

@noxure Strong enough to demagnetize a credit card. . .

[amdphreak]

@noxure no, it's just that autistics process sensory inputs differently from most people. In general it's less integrated. The TMS was increasing the integrative power of the brain allowing him to experience more cohesive senses. It's not superhuman: it's just correcting a less optimal way of processing them.

[noxure]

@amdphreak You haven't processed the context in which my comment was made optimally.

If someone uses the words "awesome", "superpowers" and ":)" in a sentence, it should be pretty clear that this person isn't attempting to write a scientific thesis about the subject, nor is he asking you to explain what autism is.

Try to remember this.

[amdphreak]

@noxure there is no context to process. It is textual. It contains no indication that you weren't serious. The average level of humor in your post was low. You must use explicit humor or else you are opening the door to a million misreadings. You also didn't use punctuation very well. All sentences ended in periods. That indicates that you are serious. Also, in America, people can use the word "awesome" seriously, the word "super powers" metaphorically, and ":)" sincerely, not just for giggles.

[noxure]

@amdphreak *sigh*