03 - Beyond Steorn, a real permanent magnet motor.

[MrStanleZ]

quality of video - mizerium mizeria :-(

[sgtkat69]

Zero, I never did understand why you used a mechanical connection instead of using magnets to make the arm move as well. Do you think that might have worked? I know there is too much resistance in a physical connection, but the magnets would eliminate that, wouldn't it?

Thanks,

Ike

[Gyva02]

shit ass quality camera.... I saw square pixels...

[Nohsat1992]

hey can i buy your construktion ?

[jonidimo]

omg! i can't see nothing with that quality! =S

[Boyntonstu]

Have the wind power the stator.

[joaquinveyron]

jnnnnn

[jbreinhold]

Just a question, are you cranking the lever to get it going? I can't tell or I am blind, either one is a probability.

[TinselKoala]

Please try the following test: compare the rundown times WITH, and WITHOUT the stator magnet assembly in place. Use a repeatable method of giving the rotor a known starting push, like I show in the Mylow testing videos. Then time the time it takes for the rotor to stop, in both conditions, stator Present and stator Absent.

If you get longer rundown times with the STATOR PRESENT, get in touch with me right away because I can get you a LOT of money. If you don't...then...the conclusion is obvious.

[DJRoach520]

DOSE IT RODUCE ANY VOLTAGE?

[walterdomingues]

Eu acredito que é possivel fazer um motor perpetuo magnetico, mais está engenhoca está longe disto, ele está empurrando a roda com uma manivela com outro imã e usando a força da mão. é uma tentativa de criança.

Brasil, Rio de Janeiro.

[kawless]

You should have used a cheaper camera,

we were still able to make out some of the video.

[DrKCostas]

My research proves that almost all overunity devices draw their extra energy from the potential energy of the local gravitational field. And to describe them in full scientific detail, it is required to revise the Maxwells equations of Electromagnetism to no-linear equations, and Einstein's theory of gravitation. So for the academic world to account for them it? is required 1-3 nobels...

[mryellow123]

Wow you move a lever and it pushes against some stuff, amazing lol

[TheNZTourist]

Putting heavy objects on the wheel only provides downward force (90deg to the movement) If you want this to produce usable work/ force put some resistance on the turning of the wheel. Keep going cause its people who try these things that will find the answer.

[skram0]

Are you a wizard?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@skram0 Not yet. ;-)

[MadWizard777]

@skram0 yes!

[mijdtr]

i saw a vid where a guy just used springs to move the thing you are mooving wit yo hand. jus sayin, good job

[jotacril]

Laws of "perpetual" mouvement machines :

1- They don't need inicial impulse to start running.

2- Once running they don't stop unless brake is aplied.

3- They work without electric wires or motors attached.

4- And finaly... they never work, whatever you do or try.

If any of these rules is violated, the machine is a fake .

[techieatwork]

hehe, jotagirl: you're so stupid.

Surely you can walk from A to B without legs.. hehe

"no wires" HAHAHAHA.. how stupid and ignorant beyond hope.

ZFF is trying to prove a concept, you ID10T, not release a "free energy motor"

ZFF: keep trying different ideas mate. I will try the Ossie motor, but a larger scale compared to the one made by JLN, to produce enough mechanical torque to move other stuff I will attach to it

Peace to the studious ones

Monthly bills to those charlatans and ignorants

[joaquinveyron]

What? These Steorn guys are not behind bars yet???

[stawmy]

I built one of these a few years ago, to test Steorn's theory, a link from the rotor to the stator will run it for about 3 minutes, giving the illusion of overunity, but it will always stop due to friction, the new Orbo while being improved, still needs a battery to run. I think a Perendev or Johnson type motor is far more viable.

Sorry to sound negative, but i wouldn't want you to waste your time on steorn.

[HUDMACK]

This guy claims a breakthrough in violating the laws of thermodynamics .... yet he cannot even run a video camera. Snake oil is alive and well amongst the ignorant , the fools, and the suckers..

The movement of the lever (by the man) is the source of power for this device. If he simply spun the rotor with his finger it would be more efficient than manipulating the magnet lever. But he would lose the illusion of his magic magnet trick. The rotor will not produce enough power to work the cam.

[spikeychops]

@HUDMACK Bloody hell, you people are so impatient! THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS!

Not a finished commercial products for Christs sake!

He is showing us his progress, as he goes along. He's not saying here it is, a finished device, come and get it!

You understand what a prototype is? You understand that you conceive, experiment, prototype, refine, prototype, refine, etc. until you finally get close to where you want to be with a device...with a bit of luck and a lot of work..understand?

[HUDMACK]

I have built a lot of these fun magnet motors. Put several magnets on a nicely balanced wheel and then hold one in your hand just outside the wheel. Move it up and down at the right time and the wheel will turn.Hook your magnet to a lever like the video and it will work also. But if you attach a cam to the lever , the wheel cannot self-produce enough power to operate the cam. That is why the guy in the video pushes the lever himself. The "free power" is coming from the energy in his hand.

[spikeychops]

Of course he is pushing the lever..no one claimed otherwise? He's not claiming otherwise himself, either.

He's building the thing as he goes..it's a progression of design. There are no hard and fast methods to OU, so naturally, experimentation, trial and error and almost continual reworks are the order of the day in this field.

You don't get that it's a kind of video diary of his work as it goes along through trial and error, do you?

There is no 'free energy' being claimed anywhere in this?

[HUDMACK]

An even simpler explanation is this: remove all the magnets from the device and use the finger of a man to turn the wheel. Do it all day if you want, I don't care. The man turns the wheel. The magnets are an illusion to make you think something else is happening.

[bensbargains]

i dont think this has anything to do with steorn ireland

[highonsnow]

You should really get a better quality camera, very poor quality, but interesting footage.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Thank you, Captain Obvious. It gets better. Promise.

[highonsnow]

I wasn't being sarcastic, lighten up :) It IS interesting footage.

[joaquinveyron]

Hey stupid??? Why Beyond Steorn??? These scammers haven't achieved anything. Your stupid shit there isn't any better!

[MrGkhill]

There is something there but this vid is real old nothing new yet? Not a dis man just wondering if there is more on another site. Hey I know how creating art can be some projects just fly along others sometimes take years for a myriad of reasons. I went to alt-nrg couldn't find these videos?

[STiELzephyr]

very good work.

i keep wondering how 'RODIN COILS' would work in this project... they are by far the most advanced coils on earth , that have some very interesting properties.

deffinatly worth looking up 'marko rodin' \ 'the rodin coil'

also search for 'rick simpson' he is curing cancer with tch oil .

good day all.

thanks for the video

[PierreLupin]

vê la se arranjas uma porra de uma camera em condições!!!!!

[bgrant5]

I'm positive that William Gilberd endured great negativity and skepticism. He discovered electricity. How many scientists were almost there, almost had a complete theory, but just needed a fresh look from a different mind to complete it, to see the missing link. With an attitude like some of you, we would still be living in caves.

[bgrant5]

I think that all you scientists and intellects with negative comments need to step back and look at a bigger picture. Yes you have great education. You know the formulas for all the laws of science I am sure. However, what if there are properties unknown, undiscovered that make these laws false or need to be rewritten. Why did it take millions of years to discover these laws and theories? Because we needed the right people with the right motivation and education. You don't know everything. 1

[ufos22]

I think Edison made this guys camera. The absolute worst quality video I've seen on youtube. If you can't get another camera, put yours on a tripod and leave it the FU.. there. STOP MOVING THE CAMERA! Your camera work makes me wonder about you entire presentation.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Thank you captain obvious.

[joaquinveyron]

On wiki they say that Steorn has sold 5000 licences a 419 EUR!!!

Hahahahaha, cant anybody be MORE STUPID??? If they really had invented a free energy device, which they have not, then investors buy the licence for litte more than 400 EUR???!!! Yeah, right, the dumbest inventions (eg facebook) are worth many billions of EUR, but a free energy form that effectively would save the entire planet and mankind is worth 419 EUR??? And you are wondering that Irelands banks are sinking??? :-)

[LiibeSexiii91]

einsam heute wer ist up für biss cam oder am tel labern

[barrywilliams993]

Part 1

I always hear a lot of theoretical drivel but I never see anything that works. I wonder why that is?

Oh shit! Now I remember - those pesky laws of the universe!

I wonder why it always seems to be necessary to add electrical or mechanical energy to keep these "free energy devices" going?

Over unity would necessarily mean that, once started, no further input of energy would be required. But that would a perpetual motion device and we can all agree that is preposterous.

[barrywilliams993]

Part 2

I wonder why the physicists of note throughout history (all of whom are obviously intellectually stunted when compared to your brilliance) never pursued the obviously logical theories you elucidate with such clarity?

As for why I would take the time to watch the demonstration . . . I can always use hardy laugh! I comment because I enjoy excoriating an idiot.

[7dwilkes]

Why do you look when you pass an accident?

Johnny, At the time people said those things in your list, you believe a common fallacy, that they were the majority. Actually the reverse is true. IE Very few people believed the earth was flat during Columbus' time. The Greeks proved the earth was round, and even calculated the Circumference. If you knew any trig you would know this. Do you REALLY believe Chuck Yeager would have "jumped in" if it were impossible?

And yes, I don't think you're smart!!

[negativespace000]

What is the purpose of this video?

[zxzrp0]

TO show you that some camaras are better than others. The one use here is not one of them...? idk lol

[AccuracyMarked]

Something you always hear in all these videos and yours too, is..."One of the biggest problems I'm having......."

I have great news for you...you're having that problem because you're up against the law of thermodynamics. Spring "K" constant is much like a magnet's "gauss" constant....magnets and springs are much the same....not many people try to get energy out of a mechanical springs....but people think magnets are different, unique, hidden properties. hahaha

[silentwolf4771]

the funny thing about the Law of thermodynamics is it hmmm lets see its a law it is called that because it has been tested millions of time with the same result this doesnt mean its impossible. dont go by impossible nothing is impossible it is just simply probable or inprobable

[7dwilkes]

In a closed system of this type, there is no way to prevent an equilibrium state that stops all motion unless more POWER were introduced.

Secondly, permanent magnets are not PERMANENT at all! They ALL will lose their magnetic traits fairly quickly. SO even if it should sustain movement without introducing external power, IT WILL STOP! But don't mind me, I just a genius with heavy physics training.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

And yet, genius, you still felt compelled enough to observe the experiment and comment on it. If you truly believed your own words, you would not have wasted any of your precious time here at all. But, you did. Reflect, and be honest with yourself. Why is that? It's because the fascination of the prospect is so overwhelming, so luring (dare I say magnetic?) that you just can't let it go entirely.

I suspect egomania plays a part as well.

[johnnytheprick]

ZEROFOSSILFUEL,

despite your camera work, i applaud anyone brave enough to, not only take on convention, but to break through it.

[wangchi623]

@ZeroFossilFuel I love when people like "7dwilkes" post comments on videos like this. You can't say magnets lose their traits fairly quickly when in all actuality, that neodymium magnets are semi permanent. Meaning, that Neodymium magnets last up to 400 years!

[johnnytheprick]

7DWILKES,

man cant fly.

man cannot go faster than the speed of sound.

the earth is flat.

the earth is at the centre of the universe.

men would rather spend time with women than their freinds.

the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

[talkdonttalk]

i dont get it

I like sex but also have friends

[100roberthenry]

erm...couldn't the rotation actually be used to move the stator once its going... it should then drive itself....just a question...from a simple dumbass in uk...

mmm very interesting.

[myjizzureye]

Now just replace the battery with a large black dildo and get a motor to drive the lever up and down as i sit on it slowly rotating.

[SPAGHETTIMONSTER1]

hey put that on a bike peddle power + ?now that would rule, peddle cars? ha ha hum

[TheKaos90]

well you could use a series of dentated wheels to transfer a small ammount of energy from the rotor to the static magnet's arm to get a waveform movement.recover the kinetic energy loss by giving some of the electric energy you harvest transfered to an electromagnet to nudge the wheel.after this u may kick-start it(spin by hand ) and enjoy some free energy

[qiplayer]

with my mobile phone I do better videos. Can't you record this in a higher quality?

[FCKEVRY1]

Just time the cam right and you have free energy, right?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Wrong.

[gustachuva]

If you could actually understand just a bit about physics, you'd know how to make this work.

You're on the right track and I'd like to remind you it is still IMPOSSIBLE to break thermodynamics Laws. Your device will do nothing to change this.

But I have it all figured out - I know why your device seems to work, I know why you can't make it any better and I know how to instruct you so to change the world.

You worked so hard for it. But you're so dumb.

I'll teach you though, cause I can't see

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Stop boasting about how smart you are and just SHOW US YOURS, smart ass.

[divajai24]

If your so f#$%ing smart, build something to take out all of the energy companies we pay big bucks to every month, to keep pumping out polution!

[salzahrah]

why is their a hole below the stator?

[salzahrah]

at what angle is the stator positioned relative to the tangent line of the circle that is furthest right?

[salzahrah]

or in other words, what degree is the stator positioned at?

[shoelessjohn]

This is interesting, but please throw away the cheapo freebie camera and get a decent recording device.

Good cameras don't cost much. You can find lots of them brand new for under $100 USD. Persoanlly, for simplicity, I would recommend a $130 USD Flip Video camera. Extremely simple point and shoot and good quality.

[scribs01]

a knowlage of physics is not always a good thing as it put barriers in the way of progress i made a motor 2 years ago and its been running non stop ever since i have no idea what you guys are saying half the time but thats how i achieved this as i didnt think about how it wont work only about how it will work . great work by the way need to dump the ball bearings on the flywheel think prop and lift .less drag after 50rpm

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Cool. Can you show us?

[pipepr76]

really? you made a motor? running non stop for two years? is this "motor" moving something? moving a "load"? or is it just running by itself?

[MediaOwnsYourMind]

good description, "invisible gear"

one motion converted into another with a net loss of energy from friction

[PYTHAGORAS101]

impessive

[axe863]

intermediate level pseudoscience

[multibrainism]

very good. very very good. :)

[Dajida]

Man, you must like taking huge risks: everybody knows that the moment you approach overunity men in black suits will show up and take you away...

Great hobby though, good work!

[axe863]

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[gregted1]

Instead of moving the arm verticaly, have you considered moving it on a horizontal axis? This will still move the magnet on the end of the arm in and out of the mangetic field causing the rotation but be easier to manage with a spring pushing against the arm from a fixed point. The wheel will have to be started manually but should be automatic once the spring/magnetic repulsion sequence settles into a rythym.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Actually I was playing this weekend with a fixed point rotational motion 90* off axis. Ordering a couple special magnets to try it.

[UnderManiac]

What is happening here is that the magnet on the lever is varying the magnetic field in relation to the magnets on the wheel. That requires mechanical energy to operate the lever mounted magnet to create mechanical energy to the circle mounted magnets. How will the lever be operated without the operator?

You get can't get overunity here. It will require more energy to move the lever than it would to spin the wheel, so a feedback loop would not work.

[stawmy]

YEP-been there, done that.

my version ran for nearly 4 minutes.

[wikichris]

He needs some ZeroF bearings in there!

[serphant420]

ok so you could put an electromagnet on as the outside one and just switch it on and off....you could add magnets to increase rpm's.......you are obviously gaining on this to be able to spin all that weight so fast......im interested in this.

[UnderManiac]

By using an electromagnet and pulsing it on and off, you get yourself a conventional motor, which uses magnets and electromagnets.

This guy is onto nothing.

Using an oscillating magnet to run the other magnets is just doing the same thing an electric motor does, but much less efficiently.

[otclude]

maybe you could try using a strong round magnet on bottom of rotor and strong cylinder magnet with poles N-N vice versa to allow rotor to float so the only extra friction it would have is the atmosphere and the gears it is turning, every little bit helps

[csselement]

Kinda reminds me of old UFO videos: The quality is so terrible that you can't really see the tricks involved.

[1freedomfighter11]

great stuff

[tesla1961]

realy stupit

[elwebre]

Nice colorful squares.

[Juegosmmorpg]

omg HD please!

[wpokets]

I think your on the right track. the laws of phisics change. skiptics would have said I wouldn't be able to post this to the world in 3 seconds either. Keep it up, I am always a believer in the inventor.

Thank you

[sacha4you]

wpokets, wow! You must be so highly educated, intelligent and spiritually enlighted, when you have such deep knowlede '... the laws of physics change ...'. So can you tell us, what laws do change in what manner?

We all on YT are terribly keen on your lecture.

I think, it's a small step for you, but a huge leap for humanity.

;-))

[ScientologySucksAss]

Can you power your house or appliances until the end of time with that full turn motor?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Only if I ever get it to work on it's own. Everyone knows it's a long shot but what if...? The potential reward is far greater than any ridicule one might have to endure along the way.

[pipepr76]

then youll have to endure being ridiculed till the end of time, and beyond. hope you are ready for it.

[pipepr76]

if he could do that, hed be GOD. not only could he power some appliances, why stop there? he could power the whole universe. and by e=mC2 he could also even produce mass. Ohhh Wait wait, producing mass??? mass from nowhere??? THAT would be Stupid. forgive me.... producing energy form nowhere is ok, energy is nothing, but mass??? (pls note the sarcasm in my comment)

[otclude]

the energy was previously put into the magnet either through rare-earth magnets or synthetic magnetism, either way he's not going to get FREE energy but possibly cheaper energy, they use this concept on mono-rails and they're onto something or they wouldn't waste their money on it or on Superman the ride

is your (-) comment helping anything? why post it then? watch something else, I'm not trying to be an asshole but it's his time and money you don't have to watch these vids if u don't want

[TheErdely]

Clever guy :) Agreed! I was beggining to write a comment but you said it all

[poofer16]

@pipepr76 e=mc2 works with rest mass only.

[pipepr76]

@poofer16 . what do you mean??? that e=mc2 does not work with mass moving??? what does one thing has to do with another.... e=mc2 just tells you how much energy you can have if you convert x quantity of mass to energy. the fact that mass could be moving does not have nothing to do with e=mc2

[geraldgibson]

How about putting a wheel of magnets on each side and a magnet on each side of the arm and try to set the magnets up so that as one spins by it raises the arm when on the other side the arm should be falling...

[patricknelson]

It's a tough thing trying to beat the laws of thermodynamics. It's like trying to "hack" the universe -- but more like entertaining your brain with the thought that you can somehow sustain this without burning the calories you gained from the food you ate which grew from energy generated by the Sun...

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Yes it is. And yet the lure to try is persistant.

[bigmind2004]

hey think about it woulndt a bike work great with this idea? you wouldnt have to push the bike pedals to get a good speed and not have to use so much strenght.what you guys think?

[RBare2007]

It's a nice idea, but what your doing is cutting the field lines of magnets with another magnet, much the same way the coils in an electric motor cut the field lines, you can get pretty impressive speed from small hand movements but you will find that if you load the rotor(btw a heavy battery on the rotor only goes against inertia, think of winding up a flywheel) the load will force it to slow to a stop, and your biggest loss is going to be through any cam arrangement, but experimenting is fun!

[shrado]

nice work!

have you tried using an electro magnet and pulsing it instead of a lever?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Not yet.

[sdarkshadow]

Pretty impressive.

[lynchzilla]

Google "Flying Dutchman Projects". Guys on this Yahoo board have been trying for three years to get continuous rotation on a magnetic wheel. Not one of them has gotten it to work. Videos of Kohei Minato in Japan show him pumping an exterior magnet to get continuous rotation. He's adding energy just like you are. You are in a tough row to hoe to get something like this to work.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Suspended account, eh? There's a big surprise. Looks like it time for him to GET lost.

[PMorphy65]

Thanks for replying ZeroFossilFuel. One question: What is the ratio on that lever - the fulcrum that is. Okay, I'll leave you alone to get thing up and running. You're the man, and I can't wait :)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Lever ratio is also about 2:1. Combined ratio of the entire mechanical assembly actuating the stator will be 4:1.

[PMorphy65]

I've tried a couple other magnetic type motor devices out there, but one advantage this one has is it works under a load. Very exciting ZeroFossilFuel!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Under load is the whole point! We need useful output. I have always contended - Any viable design will produce so much excess energy that it will accelerate on it's own, from a virtual stop, to the point of self destruction if not regulated. Perendev as an example is a joke. They spin like the flywheels that they are and make a whirring noise but that's it. Show me ACCELERATION. Then I'll be impressed.

[hoekf]

Isn't the Torbay setup not an idea for this setup? I am working on something similar

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Not sure what that is. I'll take a look when I have some spare time. Thanks.

[ibehold]

My hunch is that you will find that it takes the same amount of effort (or slightly more due to losses) to move the stator arm up and down as is output by the spinning rotor. It only seems like it is putting out more. But I hope I'm wrong :)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

If I were to actuate the stator from up and down cam lobes at the perimeter of the rotor I agree. However there will be a total mechanical advantage of 4:1 when all is said and done between the rotor and stator. Since the stator need only travel 2-3mm to drive the rotor to full power, I'm fairly confident it will work. We'll see soon. I promise!

[ibehold]

I don't think a simple cam will do it - what will stop the stator arm from flying up? It needs a fixed track that pushes the arm up and pulls it down all the way around the rotor - and of course the arm should reach horizontal at the centre point of each magnet. I hope I'm making sense.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

See my parts description video.

[wopwops0482]

MAN! I can't believe how fast you get that mass moving with so little effort. Can you tell, does it feel any harder or easier to manipulate the stator with that larger mass on the rotor? Or the same?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Same. Just takes a little longer to accelerate.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

P.S. If you haven't already, please rate my videos. Try to disregard the quality and focus on content.

[jommy99]

Wow looking good, nice unit. Do you notice the lever is getting harder to move with the heavier weight of the battery ?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

No, only the time it takes to revolve to the next transition point.