Florida, Michigan Delegates Get Half-votes

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OBAMA!!! BIDEN!!! 2008!!!!!

[airdriver]

I think the main reason this happened to Michigan and Florida is because Howard Dean doesn't like peninsulas.

That's a joke kids.

[ladylovely26]

I'm glad that Hillary did not win because her pride and ego blinded her and we need a humble person like Obama to run our country. Not that phony white woman that would have

(ACTED)tough in her campaign but give in to all of her friends cronies in the White House once she became president!

[ladylovely26]

Florida sucks, and its people are so ignorant. The state is bankrupt, it's ugly, dirty, and Downtown Miami is a dump! Question Floridians. What have your beloved Republicans done for your state? because it's crap! God knew what he was doing when your votes were disanfranchised. Come look at Beautiful, prosperous, Democratic Chicago and you won't go back to Florida!!!

[Tutenuggel]

obama is a dangeres black moslim...en a nigger as president...no go

[kikodpr]

F... Obama! McCain the next president!

[Nemnas]

"inadequate black male...," what an intolerant old bitch! Obama '08! Fuck Hillary!

:)

[mike50333]

I was greatly offended when I heard that. And as always, the fucking racist Hitlery refuses to address the fucking issue!

Bitch can't even give a proper congratulatory speech in favor of Obama!  Fucking Bitch needs to burn in hell!

[gbully13]

in michigan, barack gon 59 extra votes, even though his name was not on the ballot by his own choice. completely unconstitutional. 4 delegates must have been like "wait, wait, we did NOT vote for barack." democratic party sad "well boys, fair is fair. we know you didnt vote for him, but, god damnit, you did now, weve got to play by the rules." haha. i hope hillary challenges it

[mike50333]

You know what's funny? Clinton supporters and the people in Clinton's camp are complaining about something that the Clinton Campaign supported.

Some people in that DNC meeting that were able to vote for these issues were for Clinton, and yet they agreed to the decision to half a vote for Florida and Michigan. Bill Clinton himself said that a likely compromise to this scenario would be to use the 1/2 vote thing as a penalty.

The people whining about this truly don't care about the issues.

[Heccordero2]

Downwithfedr the polls show that both hillary and Obama will beat mcsame as bush both hillary and obama have a 3 point lead against mccain hillary does good in florida and ohio while obama does good in other swing states like mn and wisconsin and colorado and nevada and obama can even put southern states into play as well like GA and NC.Mcsame as bush will get beat badly by Obama.They showed the polls on cnn hillary and obama against mccain they both would beat Mcsame as bush.

[Heccordero2]

Half votes or full votes Obama will still end up with the most delegates Obama won fair and square and now it's mccain's turn to get beat mccain will lose by a landslide.John Mccain strength is foreign policy and almost 60% of americans believe that meeting with Iran and other countries like cuba is a good idea Both hillary and mccain don't think that this is a good idea.Obama is the only one that agrees with 60% of american mccain is an extremely weak candidate Obama will beat him easily.

[crazyjay1977]

I just want to throttle some of these women. They don't care about the issues. All they care about is getting a woman in office. And if they can't have it, they're going to stomp their feet and scream, and go run to McShame.

[SweetSoulWolf]

I feel so very sorry for America. A bunch of racist and sexist individuals. Those not voting for Hillary are sexist? Actually they are sexist. And those not voting for Obama are racist? Give me a break. Hillary is a poison pill for the Democrats. Obama should have waited to get the superdelegates? Why didn't Hillary? America is dead and they don't know it yet. Ron Paul was our best chance but even his supporters couldn't get off their asses to vote for him.

[TheEditorialist]

"Ron Paul was our best chance but even his supporters couldn't get off their asses to vote for him."

*

People are sheep, the MSM is the shepherd and RP was one of those meadows they were only briefly allowed to see, much less graze.

They only caught a glimpse, before being herded away.

[Flashbackjacko]

This is in response to WAZO89: This is not a disgrace to America, This is a democratic party problem, not a national election problem. Don't try and blame it on the whole country. I am surprised you don't try to blame it on President Bush or the republicans.

If you only want a women to win, vote for Clinton. If you only want a black man to win vote for Obama.

If you want real leadership, vote for McCane.

[TheEditorialist]

America is a banana republic.

Elections are always decided by committee these days instead of by the voters.

That said, Clinton had no right to the Michigan voters, because Obama pulled his name off the ballot after being assured that Michigan was out of play.

He would've killed her in Michigan if he'd kept his name on the ballot.

[OscTan]

Black Clinton supporters are like coconuts -- they're brown on the outside but white on the inside. These types of blacks disgust me. They want to be something they're not. Women Clinton supporters only care about having a woman in the white house. And white Clinton supporters are a bunch of dumbasses.

[yahasiff]

so funny to see all these self rigtheous liberals melting down into the racist and sexist people that they really are.

[Pondarama]

Unity? Are you kidding ? Begin to heal? Hell no! Fair? I don't think so! All I heard was party. For the party's sake! To hell with the people. I never heard one word about the Constitution or for the sake of the people. No it was all about the party, well let's see how the party deals with us in Novemeber when they count up half the votes they expected! They only wanted half te votes on May 31 and that's all they bet in Novemember see how far that will take OBama to the White House NOBAMA hehehe

[TallFlaGuy4UTube]

Go to 01:19 That lady is tripping!

[mike50333]

You got that right.

[DereckLamar]

HILLARY is going to have fix her supporters thats all guys... There is a lot of anti-Obama sentiment Man..But i'm going to be watching Hillary for now on guys

[dontizzle805]

wen bill won black people united around him 4 unity he wouldnt have won even after the sista solider moment. Its just funny how she wont unite with obama no matter what. Just make me think of wat pfleger was saying and think if she feels that way. And why everytime something racist she says happens she says i have a history with blacks. Thats like someone says ur racist ur like i have 3 black friends. Real dumb. And bill was backed and liked not hillary but hey all blacks are like jesse jackson

[straygypsy]

Thanc U dontizl 4 shwing uss yur hylee skilld eDuKayton. U reely R a DemoKrat Arnt U? Thanc U 4 displaaing YoUr Hy EdUKatIon.

[thegmansays]

As a Gore and Kerry voter, I can now see where Ralph Nader was coming from about this corrupt party--not much better than the Republicans.

Whenever I hear the word "Superdelagates," I am reminded of George Orwell's "Animal Farm": "All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others."

The Clintons' entitlement and narcissism is what will destroy this party, so that it can be rebuilt.

[dontizzle805]

we all know if clinton was ahead in delegates her and bill would have told obama to get out after texas. Like mccain did to romney and huckabee. And before yester michigan and florida didnt count at all now they do so quit the bs hillary even said they wouldnt count. If hillary voters vote 4 obama next election black people will back another canidate

[IRepTheKing]

How many Hillary supporters belive that tanking the election (voting for McCain) will be good for America??

Also, howmany of her supporters really believe that a loss for Obama will mean that Hillary win will the nomination in 2012? It's really hard to see Hillary getting the nomination after her behavior this primary. If anything, I'd say that many voters will make sure she doesn't get past Super Tuesday to avoid a repeat of this year.

In all, if you all vote McCain, we ALL LOSE. PERIOD.

[danielvg85]

her behavior? i sorry but i dont see any bad behavior by senator clinton, what i see is a injustice in not counting the florida and michigan votes fully, and even more to give senator obama delegates from michigan when he did run for that state, and just to save time if anyone thing that is because senator clinton cant run by herself...well you should know senator obama himself run for his sit on the senate by himself and he did it posible by casting out his oponents inscriptions signatures

[IRepTheKing]

Did he create the rule that allowed him to win, also?

[danielvg85]

senator obama won his sit by casting out his oponents resgristration signatures, he run by himself thats the only reason why he is on the usa senate today

[BlackUp77]

Hillary's camp is a bunch of sore losers. Go vote for McPrez cause your selfish azzes deserve him.

[emmanuel763]

we just might

[BlackUp77]

I couldn't care much less. Vote for McCain.

Either way, at least we won't have a monkey running the show. It's still silly to count those primary votes though. You all are like children who try to change the rules of a board game when you are losing. THATS the sorry part. Then you wanna throw a tantrum and vote Republican. LOL!

[emmanuel763]

better a monkey then someone who wants to lay in bed with america's enemies.

[marcaGeronis]

this is VERY similiar to the way the Congress treated blacks. Not counting them as full votes or people. It is ironic that Barack Hussein Obama, a black man, is actively encouraging the racist policies and eliminating equality for ALL voters.

[ProudAmer08]

wow ... You DEMs are morons.

Rep turned Dem. GOING BACK TO THE REP PARTY.

LOSERS.

[Mars1951]

marcaGeronis, that is just not true. I guarantee you if the shoe was on the other foot, Hillary's position would be 180 degrees from where it is and Obama's position would hardly change. It couldn't. Most of us know that you don't change the rules in the middle of the game and we don't like sore losers. Check the earlier Utube clips. Clearly H&B have changed their position on this issue conssitent with the situational ethics employed by Republicans. Obama supports women. Open your eyes

[mazaradiflash]

I thought they were voting to bring their sons and daughters home from Iraq. I thought they were voting to lower gas prices and strengthen the economy. What is the purpose of voting for McBush? If you're goanna vote for McBush then vote for him! Stop wasting everbodies time at a DNC convention. They are voting against their interest. Either that or they don't care if this war based on a lie continues. So I say unto you! Vote McCain and Ya Bet Not Complain!!! America will get what it gets!

[chepenudo]

No... this is just to elect a nominee to represent the Democratic party. If you don't like how the democratic party has acted, then either change parties or work to change the party.

[mazaradiflash]

I don't have a problem with how the democratic party has acted. I was addressing those democratic voters who are threatening to vote for a man (John McCain) who will continue the George Bush policies and keep this war going. What I'm saying is VOTE YOUR INTEREST! If Obama wins the nomination rally behind him, support him. He is a democrat and a strong candidate. Remember Barack Obama didn't send thousands to die for a war based on lie. He didn't vote for the war either!

[myfavoriteperson]

It was a nobrainer how this was gonna turn out.

[kevkev7002]

Corporations don't like it, because in that free minded situation candidates like Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, or in Democratic party Dennis Kucinich would have won!

[MRougely760]

people can vote on their interests and recieve proportional representation.

[MRougely760]

That is actually true. Though I am a Democrat. The fact is the Japanese political system is much more diverse.

[pongman]

It's sad that Hillary would rather let McCain win the presidency instead of her own party. She's obviously a sore loser. I hope she gets assassinated in June, like Bobby did.

[mike50333]

Whoa! Now I don't Like Hillary Clinton either, but that is taking it WAY too far! As much as I hate to say this, we have to respect her right to continue and run her campaign...no matter how obvious it is that it's a suicide mission in comparison to anything.

[pongman]

Oh ok, sorry. Then she needs to choke on Bill's dick. Is that better?!

[mike50333]

You really ain't helping.

[CindyPDX]

Before all this crap, it didn't really matter to me if it were Obama or Clinton. But as this reared it's ugly head, I decided to vote Obama in the Oregon primaries. If it ends up as Clinton vs McLame on the Ticket, I'll vote Clinton. It's not my preference BUT I won't let PRIDE get in my way in such an important issue!

[kevkev7002]

Don't you think by connecting to a party, whoever nominee is, leads to the dictatorship of the two parties that you see right now that they don't let any other person or third party to rise up!?

[CindyPDX]

Well, now.. that's a whole different can of worms there KevKev. Show me the LAST time in US history where there ever was an Independent or Libertarian President. Now that's definitely NOT going to happen in my lifetime. That I am sure of. BTW, prior to all this I WAS an Independent Voter. But I've had enough and re-registered as a Dem to HAVE my say this time.

[kevkev7002]

Cindy, there is famous wise expression; The only reason they don't win is because the vast majority of people believe they can't win!! But as an example consider that just in one year how the supporters of Ron Paul Policy increased from thousand to millions. If it improves like this, next election is theirs. Or about Nader if people weren't fooled by Democrats that treated him and Green Party like shit they would improve to competitive level right now! Go for improvement of the right policies!

[LandOfTheBrave01]

So Hillary ignores her own signature at the bottom of a set of rules with stipulated terms. If you can't trust her to honor that document, what makes you think she gives a damn about the Constitution? Which she has already set out to destroy with NAFTA.You Hillary Clinton supporters are the scourge of the Earth.They have stolen from you,your pensions, your education, and you children's future,yet you still begged to be beaten. Silence all you pathetic Hillary supporters, we have heard enough!

[LandOfTheBrave01]

Interesting how Hillary supporters completely ignore her signature at the bottom of the agreement in regards to Michigan and Florida, which stipulated the rules. Which Hillary signed. Conveniently using terms related to the Civil Rights movement to advance your argument, and ignore her signature. You all have no credibility. Like Hillary, America could not find you in 2000 in Florida, or 2004 in Ohio. You are whats wrong with this Country. We need to find you and arrest you for treason!

[PaulHartXYZ]

WOW.

Hillary's supporters are just as racist as she is.

"An inadequate black male?"

That's sick.

[kevkev7002]

To PaulHartXYZ: Actually Jesse Jackson said Obama is not black enough not Clintons!!

[CindyPDX]

I heard that too... and it is sick!

[mcao42]

Ever heard of the Three-Fifths Compromise? The DNC came up 10% short of even that.

[monterey725]

These are just a bunch of old suburban house wives that probably has been done wrong by men all of their lives, now they want to take out their anger and bitterness on Obama. Obama has alot more support, so these bitter , non-threatening women just needs to SHUT UP and deal with it!!!

[larueprod]

Racism under the guise of feminism. This smacks of Susan b. Anthony's racists overtures during women's suffrage. Obama has more elected experience, none of the scandal and he's won every metric. So if anyone is going to be inadequate in this equation it's not Obama. And people on this thread need to learn how to spell properly!

[rishbademha]

loool this sad women are not democrats, they are Hillary supporters.....All they want is a women president, daaam femenists, it wouldnt suprise me if most of Hillary's old bitches supporters vote for Mccain,,,,after all they are bitter women, they cant acept that Obama has more supporters

[CrazyBlackVideogamer]

My goodness gracious i have never seen such behavior in my life. This real sad, man I wish would would work together

[wazo89]

its disgraceful that america a so called democracy wont give them their full delegates

whatever you think of clinton this is a afront to democracy

[danielvg85]

what a sad day for democracy, since when a state have only half their voices?

[dustynbones]

LOL! Hahahahaa!

"An inadequate Black Male"!

This is the White Women that the media was talking about fearing not supporting Obama?

Racist & Sexist White Females

[BitterCycle]

5 states voted early, and obama only protested these two states, why ? Then he left his name on the Florida ballot, AND ran a campaign ad in Michigan. Obama is a hypocritical game player, and the one who actually divided the party. The full votes should be counted, and she should take this protest as far as it can go. We shouldn't sit by and have our rights violated over a racist and sexist game playing hypocrite.

[geoffge]

Hopefully she will concede and start bringing her supporters around to support Obama.

[geoffge]

thanks, clinton. good job dividing the party.

[danielvg85]

dividing the party? let me ask you if senator obama would be in the same position will be he dividing the party? what is going on is a shame for the democracy process there is a posible nominee but without two important states...now is that logycal? who is really dividing the party?

[emmanuel763]

well said

[skypurple15]

clinton supporters are making it worse for her. it's over clinton go home.

[ntdao179]

sorry clinton you're not entitled to win. you did this to yourself by running a bad campaign.

[TM56]

I don't understand this. ALL CANDIDATES (including Hillary) agreed in the beginning that Florida and Michigan would not count as their penalty for holding early elections. Now that she's about to lose, she's crying foul?

She should be awarded ZERO delegates from those states. You made a deal, now stick with it. And Hillary supporters wonder why so MANY are against Hillary running for president. What a cry baby and SORE LOSER. Bad criterias we DO NOT need in a president.

[duhduh666]

Best to have a rematch in Michigan if Senator Clinton takes this to the credentials committee,That is nothing but a stall tactic. If the uncommitted delegates of Michigan should not be awarded to Barack then they should not be awarded period and should not count in the 2118 winning number for the nomination. Give Senator Clinton the delegates that represent the 60 percent she won in the state and close the deal. Or have a rematch if the Clinton campaign wants to drag this out.

[TM56]

"Inadequate black male?"...That bitch better hope my black ass never encounters her because my inadequate self will put her old ass in the ground...PERMANENTELY!

[BitterCycle]

You are a hypocrital back stabbing racist criminal. Blacks supported the Clintons big time up until a short time ago when a new comer walked in with dark skin. You people supported him even though he proved to be a lying racist, sexist, and elitist. This is something a white candidate would have never gotten away with. You people have been wanting to use whites in power and the media so you can destroy the white race for years. You have exposed yourselves, and many of us are waking up.

[edrammeh]

I think this has nothing to do with "letting Florida and Michigan voices be heard," as it is so often put. Clinton supporters want Clinton to win by any means, fair or unfair. Losing is not an option. Especially against Obama.

[emilybarbar]

"We must build a world free of unnecessary barriers, stereotypes, and discrimination .... policies must be developed, attitudes must be shaped, and buildings and organizations must be designed to ensure that everyone has a chance to get the education they need and live independently as full citizens in their communities."

[mcao42]

Good Obama quote. Amen.

And, everybody ought to have their votes fully counted.  Nobody should be counted as half of a person or 3/5ths of a person.

[confusedmatthew]

If all of this was said after the meeting it wouldn't have bothered me, but we had temper tantrums and hecklings like this through the whole thing. Can someone please escort these kids back to their high school and teach them what an official proceeding is? These immature little toddlers were lucky to get any votes at all from Florida and Michigan. THEY BROKE THE RULES!!!

[highbury10]

Those threats wouldn't decide the election if Obama is destined to be the nominee and President

[MyWorldEnterprise]

"An inadequate black male!!!??" That's code for nigger. Typical Hillary supporters, I hope Michelle finds her and knock her old ass out.

[BitterCycle]

You are spoiled cry babys. You don't have enough confidence to take some critisism, because your so used to being patronized. How pathetic.

[emmanuel763]

shut up you fool you guys are the one who accuse the clintons of being racist, after all the clinton did for black people in this country... its time from sen clinton to run as an independent just like joe lieberman in CT, if not i hope you weak backstabbing democrats lose to mccain, hillary would have made a good president, but these far left wing retards are too blind to see it.

[MyWorldEnterprise]

When Obama becomes the nominee, I hope you Hillary supporters move to China. Remember 2 months ago she wasn't worried about Michigan and Florida. I'm declaring you as an individual who is prejudice. Theres not that much difference between the two, but when she loses you hope she run as an independent. Why is that gangster?

[emmanuel763]

why bring up somthing totally not related to the issue, why does running as an independent have anything to do with being a gangter? and you talk about me being prejudice, what about all the hate you guys pastors are preaching from your church?

its ok to mock sen clinton, but when we question the credentials of obama, thats being racist.

[mike50333]

Are you referring to Black churches? We may not always preach sunshine and happiness, but we do NOT speak of hatred.  We may preach about the prejudice and racism that we [Blacks] as a people still experience but we DO NOT speak nor preach anti-Americanism.

You wouldn't like me to paint all white churches as anti-catholic bigots because of Pastor John Hagee, so Do NOT use Jeremiah Wright as an example of conduct for all Black churches.

[emmanuel763]

i am not white so i could care less.

[ProudAmer08]

If McCain wins we all lose. Sis! Roe V Wade : GONE !

[BlackUp77]

Yeah, WTF was that... that old lady is full of racism. I hope someone who knows her saw that cut and sets her straight.

[mike50333]

Hope the bitch winds up dead on her fucking porch.

[DonkeyOdie2000]

The half-votes are the best way to penalize without disheartening. There MUST be penalty to the breaking of rules (which everyone knew about and agreed to beforehand). Without such consequence, the primary season would be more convoluted than it already is. Yell at your state officials for putting you in this position, MI and FL. Seriously, PLEASE, YELL AT THEM!!!

[mcao42]

Why penalize the voters of Michigan and Florida? Penalize the Party officials of those states instead.

Sharon Stone would probably praise Karma for bringing this onto Floridians and Michiganders, but we all know the officials were at fault.

[HunterAndThompson]

Half-votes! What the hell is that? Treating Florida like Guam is not a good idea.

[Y2ANJ]

This is really bad reporting. Anyone that saw the DNC meeting saw that Harold Ickes main reason for stating that the Clinton campaign reserved the right to take the Michigan issue to the credentials committee was that the 40% "uncommitted" votes were given to Obama rather than made unpledged superdelegates "up for grabs" by the campaigns. That is they objected to Obama getting anything more than 0 pledged delegates out of Michigan.

[btigtime2]

McCain will not make a very good president, but anything looks better than Bush.

[marymactavish]

@btigtime2: I would totally prefer Bush to Robert Mugabe.

[btigtime2]

With the press we have now, Hitler could have become president and we would not care or notice.

Robert Mugabe remind me why we need Guns in our homes other than our deer rifle or Rabbit gun..

[BitterCycle]

True. Nobody seems to care that scores of criminals are running around in "da hood" with illegal guns.