Just in case anyone is wondering, if your comparing any of this to Norma Jean, or The Number 12 Looks Like You, you really need to get your ears checked. The Dillinger Escape Plan could be a relevant comparison, but these guys got so much more than just technical riffs. They got a lot of melody as well, different with each listen.
Whilst I appreciate the skill and technical aspect to their music, i just can't escapenthe fact that it all sounds too messy to me. I like technical playing but I also like listenable songs. Songwriting is the most important aspect of progressive bands and this just seems like playing for playings sake. Sorry if anyone takes that comment the wrong way.
@MrRafataff I can see how you might feel this is messy after having watched this video, have you ever listened to the studio recordings? Obviously they are much cleaner sounding than this and I think the parts all make alot more sense together. Also if you havent seen it already there is a Youtube video of Dan and Pin at a guitar clinic, playing the songs with all the other parts low in the backround, I thought listening to the guitars alone helped it all make alot more sense. Just some thoughts
I listen to their albums almost every day, and it saddens me sometimes. It is definitely some of the best music i have ever heard. ah... we need a sikth reunion. Love these guys. I'd travel a long way to see them live
Everybody has to comment on bands that break up, but I honestly believe that there will never be another band like SikTh. They are just way to unique and dynamic to recreate.
@graveborn the guitar is not to gigh! this way it's more comfortable to play fast.. and mabie he has the same wist condition as me... dunno how you call it in english
@IamAlexG Its Proper.... just like sitting while playing piano, playing an upright bass, trumpet, violin etc etc. most people changed it in the past due to image. That's why people in technical type bands play upright, cause they're usually to some degree, classically or properly trained.
@IamAlexG That's true! I actually did some research and like most things its more of comfort that matters. I learned that most players are recommended to play the same setting standing as you do sitting... I dunno... i play high cause it feels right! lol.
agreed. im just getting into all the bands in this type of tech-groove metal lately, and its just rad. textures, fellsilent, sikth, periphery, tesseract and of course meshuggah
Sikth have got to be the biggest dickheads ever. Bring out the most awesome music you'll ever here and leave you eternally wanting more with every other new piece of music sounding like complete gash=p Neh, kiddin, theres plenty good bands but ffs we need a third album!
Well if you didn't know. they broke up back in 2008 when both vocalist quit :/. It's sad, and I'm sorry if you didn't know, and I ruined your day! This song is a monument though. It's so fucking great.
@alex16foamy 'Course I knew! =p I actually first heard them after the break up so I didn't have the same hardships as all the die hard fans, listen to them every day though - my favourite is 'When the Moment's gone' I think. Can you imagine what album 3 would sound like!?
We have very similar music tastes! I like all of them, and love BTBAM and PTH. But yeah, their third album would've been unreal. They were getting just getting better and better.
I love DT. Black Clouds and Silver Linings was their return to greatness after systematic Chaos. The Number Twelve Looks Like you (Who also just broke up). Uh DIlinger Escape Plan, the first The Human Abstract album was pretty great, The Faceless which are a little more death metal, but still. Those are a few :P
see i hate black clouds - think its rubbishh! but i love systematic chaos!!! great album. maybe cus its the most time-sig shifty album. maybe the most...dare i say it....'math'.
Being a guitarist you should know that the quality of this audio is shit and you can't take a good look at the band from this. Go listen to one of their albums jerk off, or another live performance maybe? Becuase they're mad better than Shadows Fall live... Gah that band is god awfull.
Sikth is absolutely amazing. If you're going to a judge a band by a video taken from the audience then you should just stop listening to music. Sikth is the type of band that should be listened to on a surround sound stereo or through headphones.
There math core, not metal core, and for anyone who doesnt know what that is, it's metal that uses a lot of different time signatures:) and for anyone who likes the chariot, u make me sick
@YouCanCallMeJustin Actually if you had to put a label on what type of music they were it would be Progressive Metalcore not Mathcore even tho they do use Mathcore reffs
I wouldn't call them mathcore just for the fact that they use a loose verse-chorus- bridge structure in a grand majority of their songs. Now don't get me wrong, they are great parts and amazing songs. Most math/metal/anycore doesn't use any type of structure like that. I wouldn't lump them into any group, really. Just awesome music.
The label of "math" applies to tempo changes and odd time signatures and time signature changes. It has little to do with choruses or verses. You're thinking prog. Math metal is often associated with technical playing because most people who have the creativity to make a song like i described play technical too.
In any case, what metalcore do you listen to that doesn't follow verse chorus bridge? You must be missing out on the entire mainstream part of it.
they all look confused, like they know their music is a bunch of all-over-the-place crap. that's why you don't spend gazillions of hours making a recording perfect if it's only gonna sound shit when you play it live on stage. notice harmonized pre-recorded background vox going off in the background on the clear-vocal parts? LOL. That's lame. They might as well lipsync. And the contrived pigcore squeeling growls are pretty annoying.
so a video taped on something like a cellphone is a good way to show how good thet are?
these guys are INSANE. you have to look at their video of them playing guitar. you know these are gods to people that play right? not the vocalists, the guitarists and drummer.
Your all wrong, they officially called it quits in March this year...that's it, gone, no vocalist searching...dammit why do good bands die whilst the radio is full of the same shit pop songs every day?
Okay, question: Should I get Their First Album (Trees Are Dead And Dried Out Wait For Something Wild) or the second album: Death Of Dead Day? Becuase, their first is like fifty bucks online, but DOADD is normal priced. Is DOADD just as good, if not better?
That's odd...but by bucks you must be American so in which case this could be true as SiKTH are an English based band.
Both are completely different...I like both but prefere DOADD because of the lyrical content and overall beefier sound...But Trees is equally as good...
It's best to buy Trees first but then again you might wanna get DOADD and then Trees and you may even prefere Trees...But if it's that much in the US then start with DOADD and go from there.
the second album is more metal, the first is a little more rock, so, choose accordingly. I prefer the second one by far, more consistent. BUT, buy both eventualy
Lucky cunt.
wilson7869 2 months ago
Just in case anyone is wondering, if your comparing any of this to Norma Jean, or The Number 12 Looks Like You, you really need to get your ears checked. The Dillinger Escape Plan could be a relevant comparison, but these guys got so much more than just technical riffs. They got a lot of melody as well, different with each listen.
clockwerkkilla420 3 months ago
Whilst I appreciate the skill and technical aspect to their music, i just can't escapenthe fact that it all sounds too messy to me. I like technical playing but I also like listenable songs. Songwriting is the most important aspect of progressive bands and this just seems like playing for playings sake. Sorry if anyone takes that comment the wrong way.
MrRafataff 4 months ago
@MrRafataff I can see how you might feel this is messy after having watched this video, have you ever listened to the studio recordings? Obviously they are much cleaner sounding than this and I think the parts all make alot more sense together. Also if you havent seen it already there is a Youtube video of Dan and Pin at a guitar clinic, playing the songs with all the other parts low in the backround, I thought listening to the guitars alone helped it all make alot more sense. Just some thoughts
DrockDrummer1 2 months ago
I listen to their albums almost every day, and it saddens me sometimes. It is definitely some of the best music i have ever heard. ah... we need a sikth reunion. Love these guys. I'd travel a long way to see them live
Murdertrain007 4 months ago
If sikth were American they would have been huge
SirSeaBeast 4 months ago
Who put that line6 spider 3 next to sikth??!??!?!?!?!?!? It's not-worthy of being near pin!
sonnybeilbill3 5 months ago
@sonnybeilbill3 Dan actually designed a preset for it. It's one of the few good ones xD
FiestyMclovin 4 months ago
7 people aint SikTh.
ashekalley 5 months ago
reform and jog on the vocalist
specialbru 6 months ago
87 people think that 'Pin' was the mastermind...... when it's Dan.
xttocx 6 months ago 2
WHY IN JESUS' ASSLESS CHAPS DID THESE GUYS BREAK UP!
mrfreedomthomas 7 months ago
i miss you :(
SyqLAWL 8 months ago
GET BACK TOGETHER FFS NOW
PLEASEEEE
PRANKcallRAWR 8 months ago
Everybody has to comment on bands that break up, but I honestly believe that there will never be another band like SikTh. They are just way to unique and dynamic to recreate.
arlothellama 9 months ago
Sikth is greatly needed again..
ThePilate30 9 months ago
Sikth come back.
screamospain 9 months ago
Gosh Sikth was one of my favorite bands I was so hoping for new material
clay10h 10 months ago
@graveborn the guitar is not to gigh! this way it's more comfortable to play fast.. and mabie he has the same wist condition as me... dunno how you call it in english
minimanomus 1 year ago
Aliases.
TheStarlessAeon 1 year ago
Don't you fuckers know how to put up 480p?
KittenKiller 1 year ago
@KittenKiller The Video was uploaded in 2007.
roycindsouza 1 year ago
They didn't have 480p in 2007?
KittenKiller 1 year ago
@KittenKiller Not everyone had a good camera back then?
roycindsouza 1 year ago
@graveborn Its fly to wear your guitar high
IamAlexG 1 year ago
@IamAlexG Its Proper.... just like sitting while playing piano, playing an upright bass, trumpet, violin etc etc. most people changed it in the past due to image. That's why people in technical type bands play upright, cause they're usually to some degree, classically or properly trained.
Sikthkid 1 year ago
@Sikthkid idk gilbert, vai, buckethead etc go low
IamAlexG 1 year ago
@IamAlexG That's true! I actually did some research and like most things its more of comfort that matters. I learned that most players are recommended to play the same setting standing as you do sitting... I dunno... i play high cause it feels right! lol.
Sikthkid 1 year ago
@graveborn agreed. They'll come to their senses. Once their dream is dead ;)
paralelSun 1 year ago
these guys have killer guns, esp pin and dan.
oromedonte 1 year ago
REUNION NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kinghammy76 1 year ago
i pissed myself at 3:45 for some reason
juswannawatchthings 1 year ago
@juswannawatchthings probably the guy walking across the stage made you laugh??
thishanw 1 year ago
@thishanw yeh...im amused easily
juswannawatchthings 1 year ago
Me loves the Sikth.
TheCasualty 1 year ago
i wish i didnt discover them AFTER they broke up
thats such bullnuts
howycwap 2 years ago 31
Dude same here! D:
They were so damned amazing...I didn't even get to go to one of their live shows...damnit.
DWXVI 1 year ago
@howycwap Don't worry they are reforming :)
DarkestEdenOfficial 1 month ago
@DarkestEdenOfficial
oh i know i just saw the facebook post aswell. it still wont be for another like...year or two, maybe more though :(
howycwap 1 month ago
@howycwap No one knows dude, but they wouldn't be updating all their stuff now if it's gonna be for a tease. As much as I know they do it sometimes
DarkestEdenOfficial 1 month ago
@DarkestEdenOfficial why wouldnt they be? all the fans lost, no merch, theyre getting loads of money now their shirts sold out within like 2 days!
also they said DOADD took 2 years to write, so this will take just as long if not more is what pin said
howycwap 1 month ago
@howycwap haha same dude :(
squiffyk7 1 week ago
I LOVE ARCHITECTS. Best band ever.
inthedesert69 2 years ago
in all of this talk about bands to listen to if you like SikTh, i can't believe no one has mentioned Architects. so there ya go.
jackandbullets 2 years ago
@jackandbullets I fucking love Architects!
TornFromTheCrescent 1 year ago
Check the Arusha Accord....
w00per 2 years ago
If you like Sikth check out Periphery. It's in-fucking-credible.
NickLikesToSweepPick 2 years ago 3
agreed. im just getting into all the bands in this type of tech-groove metal lately, and its just rad. textures, fellsilent, sikth, periphery, tesseract and of course meshuggah
underscoreisnotvalid 2 years ago 3
His new band -> myspace. com/aliases
aaronkswafford 2 years ago 3
I could watch Pin and Dan play all day!
gillyrocks 2 years ago 2
will people finally post some comments that DONT MENTION THEIR BREAK UP for FUCKS SAKE motherfucker BITCH.
ubershredder1989 2 years ago
Most of them don't man.
Ollievarium 2 years ago
Sikth have got to be the biggest dickheads ever. Bring out the most awesome music you'll ever here and leave you eternally wanting more with every other new piece of music sounding like complete gash=p Neh, kiddin, theres plenty good bands but ffs we need a third album!
Ollievarium 2 years ago 7
i totally agree man :( it pains me
tomobkr 2 years ago
Well if you didn't know. they broke up back in 2008 when both vocalist quit :/. It's sad, and I'm sorry if you didn't know, and I ruined your day! This song is a monument though. It's so fucking great.
alex16foamy 2 years ago
@alex16foamy 'Course I knew! =p I actually first heard them after the break up so I didn't have the same hardships as all the die hard fans, listen to them every day though - my favourite is 'When the Moment's gone' I think. Can you imagine what album 3 would sound like!?
Oh well, with Sikth gone I would reccomend:
Between the Buried and Me
Fellsilent
Veil Of Maya
Tesseract
Protest the Hero
The Arusha Accord
Check, 'em out if you haven't!
Ollievarium 2 years ago
We have very similar music tastes! I like all of them, and love BTBAM and PTH. But yeah, their third album would've been unreal. They were getting just getting better and better.
alex16foamy 2 years ago
I like dream theater as well though, I bet you don't! Can you think of any other good math/prog bands that I haven't mentioned?
Ollievarium 2 years ago
I love DT. Black Clouds and Silver Linings was their return to greatness after systematic Chaos. The Number Twelve Looks Like you (Who also just broke up). Uh DIlinger Escape Plan, the first The Human Abstract album was pretty great, The Faceless which are a little more death metal, but still. Those are a few :P
alex16foamy 2 years ago
see i hate black clouds - think its rubbishh! but i love systematic chaos!!! great album. maybe cus its the most time-sig shifty album. maybe the most...dare i say it....'math'.
nuttysolos 2 years ago 2
@Ollievarium psyopus
ReeceHughesRocks 2 years ago
@ReeceHughesRocks Already know them! They're a bit too far=p
Ollievarium 2 years ago
It's a big disappointment that no one got any really high quality live vids of this band before they broke up.
amusiathread 2 years ago 6
I REALLY MISS THIS BAND!!
BrentUnderwood 2 years ago 11
They are Weirdcore ; )
cmikite13 2 years ago 3
WTB: skith coming back. /;
Wadeforshaw 2 years ago 9
pin looks like shane diesel
DavefromTinj 2 years ago
SIKTHCORE!
TheDramaticSkeleton 2 years ago
YES the singer is a rastafarian!! haha
hockeybum90n5 2 years ago 4
Too much reverb :( but still sick nonetheless!
skadogg22 2 years ago
Dan Foord is incredible.
ChileFlameboy 2 years ago 2
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garbage
guitarman069 2 years ago
Garbage? Fuck you.
ChileFlameboy 2 years ago
Actually i apologise for that, and take it back, this isnt a good live performance and i now agree with you. They are good , just not live i guess :/
ChileFlameboy 2 years ago
i wouldnt go off tis video man. recording quality is shite
black1swan2green3 2 years ago
Being a guitarist you should know that the quality of this audio is shit and you can't take a good look at the band from this. Go listen to one of their albums jerk off, or another live performance maybe? Becuase they're mad better than Shadows Fall live... Gah that band is god awfull.
m0r81d1337 2 years ago 7
Sikth is absolutely amazing. If you're going to a judge a band by a video taken from the audience then you should just stop listening to music. Sikth is the type of band that should be listened to on a surround sound stereo or through headphones.
KentColeslaw 2 years ago 8
There math core, not metal core, and for anyone who doesnt know what that is, it's metal that uses a lot of different time signatures:) and for anyone who likes the chariot, u make me sick
there fucking awful
LGFkingofliam 2 years ago
With that attitude music isn't making a progress.
FrozenSnake999 2 years ago
SikTh was not mathcore. SikTh was SikTh.
YouCanCallMeJustin 2 years ago 166
@YouCanCallMeJustin Actually if you had to put a label on what type of music they were it would be Progressive Metalcore not Mathcore even tho they do use Mathcore reffs
ZeroPNDSTR 1 year ago
@ZeroPNDSTR I think his point was that you don't have to put a label on it.
gibbsies 1 year ago
@ZeroPNDSTR "Progressive metalcore" is the definition of mathcore.
JacobRiddock 6 months ago
@YouCanCallMeJustin fuck yes :)
metalsinani 1 year ago
@YouCanCallMeJustin Sikthcore
theallmightyham 7 months ago
I wouldn't call them mathcore just for the fact that they use a loose verse-chorus- bridge structure in a grand majority of their songs. Now don't get me wrong, they are great parts and amazing songs. Most math/metal/anycore doesn't use any type of structure like that. I wouldn't lump them into any group, really. Just awesome music.
quaggledoo 2 years ago 10
The label of "math" applies to tempo changes and odd time signatures and time signature changes. It has little to do with choruses or verses. You're thinking prog. Math metal is often associated with technical playing because most people who have the creativity to make a song like i described play technical too.
In any case, what metalcore do you listen to that doesn't follow verse chorus bridge? You must be missing out on the entire mainstream part of it.
Either way, YouCan got it on the nose
ZeroSwitch 2 years ago 4
i would love to have seen them live
tekailes 2 years ago
dillinger escape plan are fucking hacks. "pioneers of mathcore" wow thanks guys, thanks for making one of the lamest terms in music - "Mathcore"
massacr3chan 2 years ago
Just because a certain band pioneered a genre doesn't mean they invented the term?...
and shut up, Dillinger is fucking amazing.
YouCanCallMeJustin 2 years ago
They may not have invented the term but they defiantly support it. Woah man, they're music is soooooo complex!! fkn dissonant faggots
massacr3chan 2 years ago
Well, what else would you classify them as? No other genre really "fits" their style of music. Not like genres matter anyway, but still...
What's wrong with being dissonant?
YouCanCallMeJustin 2 years ago 2
Dillinger is Dillinger man.
They're one of the few bands ive seen move that much live
AlabamaManWhore 2 years ago
omg i would die to hear this song in concerttt
Squ33ky7 3 years ago
whatd he say? "this song is called Bland Sckree Blurgh!"
i love this band! :)
iloveskateboarding45 3 years ago
Your soul has now been scrolled. =)
synapticriot 3 years ago
While DOADD is a more stable album, I prefer Trees because of how experimental it is.
darmstrongx92 3 years ago
The singer in the black shirt is fucking amazeing.. Both great screamers too =)
Poor bald guy.. =( no hair to look awesome in lol, hel follow his own style :P win
Moufisto 3 years ago
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they all look confused, like they know their music is a bunch of all-over-the-place crap. that's why you don't spend gazillions of hours making a recording perfect if it's only gonna sound shit when you play it live on stage. notice harmonized pre-recorded background vox going off in the background on the clear-vocal parts? LOL. That's lame. They might as well lipsync. And the contrived pigcore squeeling growls are pretty annoying.
myster1234 3 years ago
having a backtrack and lipsyncing aren't the same dood.
omen1089 3 years ago
so a video taped on something like a cellphone is a good way to show how good thet are?
these guys are INSANE. you have to look at their video of them playing guitar. you know these are gods to people that play right? not the vocalists, the guitarists and drummer.
Colenelly 3 years ago
amazing Sikth!!!!
delirio68 3 years ago
they need to move more
ChrisDub1 3 years ago
no need.
Jayfire 3 years ago
technical bands never move a lot
davidsimard 3 years ago 2
its hard to be technical and move
HeavyMetalVagabond 3 years ago 4
the chariot go pretty mad
shirukume 3 years ago 2
Protest the Hero moves a decent amount.
ShadowdudeD1219 3 years ago 4
Agreed
And all of Rody's shenanigans add to the entertainment.
meowbark123 2 years ago
Haha. Yeah. He tells some good jokes on stage as well.
ShadowdudeD1219 2 years ago
MALEFICE AND SIKTH RULE
rackracker 3 years ago
Greeting from Russia!!
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youngfailmark 3 years ago
I can't believe there's no real pro shot footage of these guys live...
Freeman34 3 years ago 8
Why does Pin seem so much like Kerry King?
yourusernamehere2 3 years ago
He looks like him in this video, minus all the tatts and the intense kerry beard.
inknstrings 3 years ago
yeah and hes like buff, and isnt like 5 foot tall lol
murdaughboi 3 years ago
Justin's Malefice shirt is off the hook.
RoseWestxxx 3 years ago
i think james leach goes out of his way to show his dick to the drummer a few times.
KahLindie 3 years ago
They've completely called it quits now :(
Never got to see them live.
I MUST KILL MYSELF D: =[
Joltt 3 years ago 3
.. err check their website first before shouting all kinds of crazy shit everywhere..
they are in search for a singer....
Nevertheless, kill yourself
MetalCrimsonBlack 3 years ago
Check your brain man. They've been searching since July of LAST year. So...both of you kill yourselves.
slayeroflight 3 years ago
Your all wrong, they officially called it quits in March this year...that's it, gone, no vocalist searching...dammit why do good bands die whilst the radio is full of the same shit pop songs every day?
The mould needs BREAKING!
KongoXIIV 3 years ago 6
They completely split up a while ago man...But I feel they'll reform.
KongoXIIV 3 years ago 2
They better!
They are fucking amazing.
inknstrings 3 years ago
Okay, question: Should I get Their First Album (Trees Are Dead And Dried Out Wait For Something Wild) or the second album: Death Of Dead Day? Becuase, their first is like fifty bucks online, but DOADD is normal priced. Is DOADD just as good, if not better?
MyEggIsBoiled 3 years ago
i prefer death of a dead day
techdeath16 3 years ago
That's odd...but by bucks you must be American so in which case this could be true as SiKTH are an English based band.
Both are completely different...I like both but prefere DOADD because of the lyrical content and overall beefier sound...But Trees is equally as good...
It's best to buy Trees first but then again you might wanna get DOADD and then Trees and you may even prefere Trees...But if it's that much in the US then start with DOADD and go from there.
Long live SiKTH!!!
KongoXIIV 3 years ago
the second album is more metal, the first is a little more rock, so, choose accordingly. I prefer the second one by far, more consistent. BUT, buy both eventualy
thewererabbit 3 years ago
nope, they've completely split up :P
oldschoolkickflipp 3 years ago
where are they playing? sounds like its echoing.
7h2bfyio2fh89 3 years ago
They got talent in bucketloads and are the business.
I saw em once and it was one of the best gigs I have ever been too!
Edd731 3 years ago
Man, Dan Ford's such a sick drummer but it just chafes me how he's so still all the time. I'd live to see him go apeshit while he plays!
durriedee 4 years ago
he probably has to concentrate
haha
snackajack117 3 years ago
they dont have any official live vids! why?!
azzmiller666 4 years ago 2
Bahaha WTF with the random that jus walks across the stage in the middle of the peformance lol
bigbaddrummerboi 4 years ago
fukin sick
saw the last gig on the 14th september, they were better then but still brilliant
best band on the planet... nice filming too
OthewolfislooseO 4 years ago 2
i was there on the 14, mbest gig ive ever been to
metalisthewayforward 4 years ago