802-748-8129 allegations of abuse,taking all assets from widowed memeber of this church father of 8, myself. i was tiething 50.00 week and basically ,allegedly, got all assets removed by two p[rominent members of st john the evangelist church ,district atternt bob butterfly ,judge walter morriss. i tried church senior counsel only to find out mr butterfly and may judge morriss were members of parish council. they were offered free re-upholstering and freindlyness my x-wife who was agnostic.
Every hour/day passed, is another hour/day closer. We must be ready when the time comes. We wont know it, so we must be alert just as Jesus said in Matt. 25:13
Christendom is unveiling it's mask and it's not a pretty site. Lies, deception, profiteering, empire building at the expose of the followers, Pedophilia, hate crimes, tax avoidance. she is the Accuser of the world. The sulfur crested cockatoo, squawking lies all over the planet. Like durrr, get your act together and practice what you preach!
@srnixdorf No, it is not yet time. We do not know the hour(and no, it's not as it is seen in the 2012 movie lol). You're right that the day and hour IS coming. When Christ comes back for the second time, He will take those who He truly calls as His own for God. Everyone else WILL perish from Judgment.
Wake up, smell the coffee, DRINK the coffee, know that the coffee is good, thank the coffee maker(the Godhead), and BE ALERT!
nice message, people who believe in the bible are ostracized and outcasted in social settings, but we do have one advantage. christians tend to stick together. i forecast with much certainty that in the coming days things will begin to get much worse for those of the faith. the media doesn't project us in a kind light and many residents of earth are reverting to atheism, egyptian occultism and sinful lifestyles and their disagreement of our beliefs leads to persecution.
@zooMZooMlikeATyphOOn "christians tend to stick together." hahaha!!! That explains why there are around 40,000 (that's FORTY THOUSAND!!) mutually hostile denominations of Protestant Christianity alone! No, no- the lack of unity among believers is a powerful piece of evidence against the reality of your god and your religion. Jesus said his people would be ONE. In fact, they are LEGION. FAIL.
@Imaginefree69 Christians are the only thing standing between The People and a New World Order. They are trying to destroy the Bible without burning it, they are the government and all of its institutions.
@Imaginefree69 Jesus did say that his people would be one but that does not mean that they would be one in denominational name. He also said remember, "Other sheep have I which are not of this fold". Christ has people (at least right now) in various denominations. He did promise that during the "time of trouble" his people would hear his voice and become "one". Many denominations should reveal to you a desperate attempt of Satan to hide God's real truth and true church in a sea of confusion.
@Imaginefree69 The only church that keeps all 10 commandments is the 7th Day Adventist Church. They have the biblical truth about Saturday being the Sabbath...the same day Jesus kept and the Jews keep today. They also have the truth concerning the state of the dead & what happens when we die & about how one will not be burned throughout eternity for "the wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23, the wicked dead will receive the "second death"...Rev. 20:6.they will actually die out and not burn forever
AvaAva... Not real christianity... There are many people who say they are Christian yet do not follow the beliefs that Jesus taught which is to love (REAL love, not self-seeking love) the creator more than anything and love others as yourself (which is only possible when you know God, who IS love). Many have a form of godliness, yet deny God's power to change their lives and hearts. If you hate anyone, you do not know God (read the book of John). We submit to America, but God always 1st~
@inthelight7771 , God (christianity) "IS" not love, if god were love, he would not send people to hell because they do not believe in Jesus. It's a good thing that this isn't true.
@AvaAvaBoBava He doesn't send you to hell because of not believing but the fact you keep the sin with you and rejecting Christ. Sin separates you with the Father.
@spideyrocks45 Yeah and supposedly the only ones God allows into heaven (forgiving the sins of) are those that believe in Jesus. So that is just a different way of saying the same exact thing. (that sin seperates us from god) Ultimatly if God is all powerful, then it's god's choice that non-believers go to hell forever. I think that is absolutly horrific and am glad that it isn't true.
Oh, pshaw, the lady in the video is not "suffering persecution"-- unless you consider being called a nitwit persecution. Especially in the American South, "Babble-believin" Christians" have a huge superiority complex, as if the world should kiss their ass.
Christians under attack? That's the biggest joke I've heard. If they don't attack non-Christians with their superstitious beliefs about sky daddy, bastard son & the spook, and using hate speech, condemning others as 'sinners' and 'going to hell', others would have say nothing about their harassment. Bullies crying victims.
Whatever we think of Christians, they have been persecuted, as well as persecute others. Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, pagans (old way believers, etc. all persecute and get persecuted in return.
I would say it's at stage 3 from the exerpt, and I hope more persecution comes because it seems that in persecuted countries the Gospel flourishes and I also hope that we'll be able to handle it.
There is no sign that Christians "might possibly be persecuted IN THE FUTURE" either, you're just trying to create paranoia aand resentment mong Christians. Americans are very tolerant of all religious groups, but tolerance works both ways, you know.
Oh, kid, they are definitely being persecuted, the gov/med is stuffed with contemptuous, arrogant anti Christian idiots, most of them outright criminals. Anyone who says different isn't living on this planet, but Christians do set themselves up by arrogant attitudes, naive interpretations, and intrusive behaviors.
Just because there are "anti-christian idiots" in the government does not mean anyone is being persecuted. It doesn't mean that they ever will be either. People have a right to express their opinions and beliefs, and when those dont agree with yours, you cant go run crying "persecution!!"
Whats more, there's a constitution that protects everyone, minorities, majorities, and fringe groups alike. No one is being persecuted, nor ever will be.
Persecution is alive and Satan is pleased with the fact that he's given free lancing, but only God will triumph.
Persecution is slowly growing in America, The Bible banned in public schools, prayer banned in public schools. The question is how far will we go before we come to our senses?????? How long will we keep our mouths shut????
Kids are free to pray any time in public schools before, between, and after classes. They just can't take time out during class to have a prayer session that students who may or may not share their beliefs would have to sit thru, if not participate in, or have the teacher lead such a session.
Also, Jesus said for his followers to pray in their closets, and that those who insisted in praying out in the open were usually hypocrites.
Pbirv, yet, it's interesting all the New Age beliefs that are forced on the kids. Many schools encourage meditation/yoga which is a religion yet ban anything to do with the bible. That shows me that we really don't have freedom of religion... only certain religions. Many preach tolerence, but are not tolerant to Christians.
How are New Age beliefs being forced on kids? You mean the movie Avatar? Nobody's forcing you to go see it. The yoga that's being encouraged is a form of exercise and has nothing to do with religion. The Bible doesn't belong in a school that has kids of all different beliefs. How do you think a Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, pagan, or Wiccan kid would feel about having to sit thru a class where Christianity was being taught? How do you think their parents would feel?
If Christianity can be taught in public schools, then all religions have to be taught. I don't suppose many Christians would be too happy about a public school teaching Islam or a Muslim teacher starting class w/ a prayer to Allah.
If you want your kids to have organized class prayer in school and have the Bible and Christianity taught, there's private religious schools for that.
Even within Christianity, there's 2,000 different denominations, sects, not to mention just plain cults, who can't agree on which interpretation of which version of which Bible(Catholic, KJV, Mormon, Orthodox, etc) is the correct one. Do you really wanna inflict that on public schools? Organized class prayer was taken out of public schools for a very good reason. Public schools exist to educate, not to proselytize- to teach, not to preach.
Oh my really awful way this video victimizes "Christians" This view is so skewed in that it is polar opposite of what is real. I can't help but see the inherent comedy in the whole situation yet ironically it saddens me that people are so brainwashed they can only see their world from one perspective and miss how that may affect all others.
And yet a lot of people who preach the Gospel probably own a gun and they will use a gun to protect their own lives, which is a strong contradiction considering in how American Christians act so persecuted.
By no means am I suggesting that your guns should be taken away, I am just suggesting that maybe you should realize that Christianity is NOT a peace-driven religion, but one driven by war. It makes sense considering the history of Christianity I've studied.
A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put...The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.
--Bernard Ramm
There is no fear for American Christians to be worried. IMO, since you whine and cry about being persecuted or of a coming persecution, it shows how LITTLE FAITH you have in your God. It's funny really.
why is it chriatian americans always make it seem like they are the center of chritendome you guys need t get over yourselves chriatains all over the world are being persecuted its not just going to be american chriatians so really drop it.
@Imaginefree69 IN THE BIBLE GOD SAY'S: THAT ALL KNOW THAT HE (GOD) EXISTS, SO ALL WILL B WITHOUT EXCUSE. WE CHRISTIANS R COMMANDED BY THE LORD 2 PREACH THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL 2 ALL THE WORLD. WHAT PPL PROBABLY HATE MORE THAN THE PHYSICAL CHRISTIAN AT THEIR DOOR IS THE "MESSAGE" WE BRING. REPENT!!! THE BIBLE WARNS THAT PPL WILL HATE CHRISTIANS + EVENTUALLY PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS WORLD-WIDE. GOD IS LONG-SUFFERING. NOT WISHING THAT ANYONE SHOULD B LOST. ALL WILL BOW 2 JESUS THE LAMB OF GOD
@The3in1trinity Don't you know it's rude TO POST WITH ALL CAPS? Aside from anything else it just makes you look hysterical. Which, indeed, you seem to be. The Bible says? So what? The Bible tells us about unicorns and talking animals and men walking on the water and 4-legged insects and a flat earth and humans made out of dust and men walking on the water and a 600 year old goat herder building a Titanic out of desert shrubs..... Not a book I would look to for truth or reality.
We have the Holy Spirit to tell us the meaning. Didn't you know that?
The copies of copies were written in aligned columns and rows, like a crossword. Each column and row of letters was added to a known sum and checked. If any column or row total was off, the page was discarded.
There is a mathematical pattern flowing through those number-letters. Yet, the books were written thousands of years apart, and the pattern is not apparent unless all books are assembled together.
"The copies of copies were written in aligned columns and rows, like a crossword. Each column and row of letters was added to a known sum and checked. If any column or row total was off, the page was discarded.
There is a mathematical pattern flowing through those number-letters"
Okay. We get it. A "Bible code" crackpot. Enough said.
You have complete freedom to worship publicly, you knock on the doors of private homes to spread your religion, you have christian schools, christian radio, christian TV... Every president of the USA has been christian. What more do you need? Mandatory back rubs from atheists? Persecution, forsooth! We need a constitutional amendment to prohibit the public display of religious symbols and the broadcasting of religious propaganda and the aggressive promotion of religion
We're not controlling the government. We're just represented in the government--makes sense if we're the majority. We don't control "the media" either--this is part of the media! Everybody is free to express his or her views in some forum now, thanks to the internet. I don't trust the mainstream media, because most of what they report isn't what I would consider newsworthy. Hell, if anybody controls "the media," it must be Paris Hilton. As for the "fucking white house..." redundant, dude.
Faith in god is a suspension of critical thinking, it is sick. These people need education, god does not exist, religion is just a bad joke. Fundamentalist are fascists, we should get rid of them!
So you advocate brainwashing and/or execution for all Christians? That's about two billion people. You'll have your work cut out for you. Oh, and you sound like a REALLY good person.
Yes, i mean by education, the more educated people are, the less they believe in non sense religions like yours. Thank you, i believe i am a good man too.
When did he say he wanted to execute christians...? you are an idiot dude... now i understand theists when they say they are being persecuted. YOU WANT TO BE PERSECUTED.
We Christians are victims! Victims! Poor us! Please smother us with pity. We represent only 85% of Americans, and we are being persecuted by the tiny minority. Somebody please save us. All we want is to erect our Christian symbols everywhere, force every American child to pray during school, and cram our moral values down everyone else's throat, and they won't let us. It's not fair, and those other people are big meanies. Waaaaaaaah.
You either didn't watch the whole video, or you are so blinded by anti-Christian prejudice that you could not understand it. I addressed that statistic.
"38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals."
--Excerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon Skousen. These were two of forty-five goals for the communist takeover of America.
"For every one that curseth his father or mother shall surely be put to death."
Leviticus 20:9
"If a man have a stubborn and rebelious son, bring him unto the elders of his city, and all of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from amoung you!"
Nice try. How unoriginal. I believe that every word of the Bible is inspired by God. Since I am a Christian, I am not required to conform to the legal standards of the old Mosaic system. Therefore, the Scriptures in Leviticus and Deuteronomy do not dictate how I conduct myself as a parent. Duh. I don't have a problem with I Timothy because I understand the context of it. I suppose there's no point in trying to reason with someone who cannot spell "among."
Of course, I have exactly refuted your denial of scripture (compiled into the Bible) not being from God by giving chapter and verse. Now, you want to pretend that scripture and Bible refer to two different things.
Scripture includes a bigger set of writings, yes. BUT, the Bible is ALL SCRIPTURE.
And where, precisely, is the word, "Bible" in that passage? Instead of engaging in veiled ad hominem (i.e., "fearing" for my "soul" and other silly melodramatic antics) , can you answer my question: Where in the Bible are the precise words, " Every word of the Bible is inspired by God" ?
The name's Ben. I know your type strives hard at functional illiteracy, but it's a three letter name. If you go really slow when you type, you might be able to manage it.
I've just been observing this trend of "reverse discrimination" against Christians by minority groups that seem to feel "judged" just by being in the presence of Christians. I didn't know you were a transsexual, so you can't say I "judged" you for it. All I have to do sometimes is tell people I'm a Christian and without even asking me how I feel about non-Christians, they'll proceed to call me a homophobic, bigoted, religious zealot who hates science! Why do people do this?
The biggest persecutor an American Christian will ever face is Howard Stern. Why not learn from the Jews--victims of *real* persecution--to keep on going no matter what, since you don't have the luxury of hand-wringing and self-pity? (Hate to break it to you, but overhearing a joke about Jesus or Mary is *not* the equivalent of the Holocaust.)
Well, the Jews persecuted the Christians at one point...hello? Practically every group of people has experienced some form of persecution, and today the Scripture is being fulfilled which predicted "the love of many shall grow cold." We can't fight hate with more hate. The atmosphere in America is very volatile right now. Racism is getting much worse, especially among so-called "Christians." Persecution can come from within the body of Christ as well as from non-Christian entities.
I dont deny you the right to peacefully assemble. Go for it.
I will never protest when you do so either. Never.
Isaiah please, religious judging of me, for being a transsexual, occurs daily. I had never stuck my nose in any Christian's business until they had stuck their nose in mine more times than I can count.
I believe I had seen the video. They were peaceful, but trying to protest in the middle of a gay event, not on a sidewalk, and not at all removed a reasonable distance. They were arrested, and then let go. If only they had chosen to live and let live and stayed away.
When did you take it upon yourself to judge others?
When did you lose your love for your fellow man?
Some people think your religious rules are foolish, why must you try so hard to impose them on the unwilling?
And Sarah, do you not realize that you are in fact judging me? Plus, "love" involves more than just sentiment. It's about sacrifice, not giving a mental assent to the question of whether a person is lovable. Disagreeing with a person's actions is not hate. If you think about it, the opposite of love is indifference, which is what I think you are advocating, right? That I shouldn't care?
I think there are certain "Christian" groups that definitely persecute homosexuals, such as the Westboro group, but I don't think it's as widespread as we've been led to believe. Ex-gays are persecuted more than gays. I know all about that.
Oh my. I think you must have blinders on if you think Westboro baptist church are the only christians who persecute gay people.
Just look at the amount of people opposed to same-sex marriages based on religious reasons. Preferential treatment for one group over another is persecution.
The issue is over the definition of "marriage." If you support gay marriage, you should support polygamy too. Don't be biased, and don't be a hypocrite. I have a solution to this problem. Allow gays to marry. Allow polygamy. MAKE DIVORCE ILLEGAL. That would improve the "sanctity of marriage." Gay people having sex is no threat to marriage. Christians should worry more about divorce.
You have diverged from the topic, but I will respond: In this day and age, marriage is a civil and social union anyway. I'm not religious at all, and there will be no church or mention of god at my ceremony, yet it would still be a legal marriage. To say that same-sex couples cannot enter into this exact same type of marriage is discriminatory and therefore, persecution.
Is it not true that the large christian population in the united states is the backbone behind this persecution?
To answer your question, yes. I think your hypothesis backfires on you though. Christians have been arrested for appearing at gay pride parades--peacefully--yet gay people get away with having public sex at the Folsom Street Fair in SF every year. Who has more rights?
Why would someone be arrested for appearing at a gay pride parade? Since it is not illegal to go to a parade, I assume there was protesting and rabble-rousing involved.
This is my point. If someone is protesting at a gay pride parade, they are persecuting the gay people. Since you say "Who has more rights" it is clear you wish to restrict rights upon your judgment.
All people should have equal rights. If you can get married, then everyone can get married. No restrictions.
Then people should be allowed to have a straight pride parade where the police arrest any homosexuals who show up, huh? I do not wish to restrict the rights of anyone but rather preserve the rights of the individual states to rule on the definition of marriage. I can't marry anyone I want. Should bisexuals be allowed to marry both a man and a woman? It's a slippery slope.
People *are* allowed to have a straight pride parade.
As for people being arrested, you should drop this as an argument. It isn't believable that innocent bystanders are arrested just for not being gay at a gay pride parade.
As for the definition of marriage, it is fine if you want to define it in a certain way if it doesn't mean anything other than within a religious context. This is not the case.
Marriage actually means something in a civil and legal context. ...
To be married means more than to commit to your partner. It means there are differences in terms of taxes, ownership of property, distribution of wealth. There are many many spousal benefits that go far beyond what is governed by any church.
If a straight couple can take advantage of these strictly civil, then it is discriminatory not to allow a same-sex couple these same benefits.
The argument of preserving the definition of marriage fails because the definition changed long before...
Conceding that somehow religion is responsible for some prior definition of marriage, surely you are aware that there is no longer any religious requirement to be married.
In this day and age marriage is first and foremost a legal concept. The definition changed long ago, and since nobody upset back then, then it is clear that preserving the definition now is a made up reason in hopes of precenting same-sex couples from marrying.
You're the one who has diverged from the topic completely. I never said that I was opposed to civil unions for homosexual couples. This has nothing to do with the possibility of Christians being persecuted in the future...except you assume the worst of Christians and ignore the FACT that other groups get away with having public sex while screaming about "intolerance." I'm not anti-gay, so please drop it. This is unfruitful, and it shows how little you know about me!
I simply mentioned same-sex marriages as an example of how Christian groups are currently persecuting others.
After that you went on about parades and people getting arrested and whatnot.
I don't assume the worst of christians, but I do find it irritating when they complain about being persecuted when their entire history from ancient times to current day is rife with the persecution of others.
Btw, the occurences of straight, public sex would surpass gay public sex any day.
I am not complaining about being persecuted AT ALL. My point is that Christians MAY be persecuted in America in the future. Why is this so hard for people to understand? I thought I stated that pretty clearly in the video. Just watch out for propaganda. It's all designed to incite hatred for others and divide this country so that we can be more easily controlled. God bless you.
well, it did happen in philadelphia, where a group of Christians were peacefully protesting on the sidewalk at a gay pride event and were arrested and thrown in jail. One of the people arrested was an eighty year old woman. So it does happen.
I didn't put "IN GOD WE TRUST" on your damnable dollar; in fact, I'm very offended by that phrase being there. I feel that any discussion with you would prove unfruitful, for you display little understanding of the "TRUTH." The truth is that the phrase, "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE," also on the dollar, represents a much greater threat to your Constitutional rights than any vague allusion to "God" ever will.
"God" is a generic term for any deity. It could refer to the Judeo-Christian God YHWH, or it could refer to the Deistic "watchmaker God." It's not specific. Does nobody care about the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve? I guess people would rather blame other people for things they had no part in than actually try to restore our freedom and sovereignty.
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erazerhedd911 11 months ago
802-748-8129 allegations of abuse,taking all assets from widowed memeber of this church father of 8, myself. i was tiething 50.00 week and basically ,allegedly, got all assets removed by two p[rominent members of st john the evangelist church ,district atternt bob butterfly ,judge walter morriss. i tried church senior counsel only to find out mr butterfly and may judge morriss were members of parish council. they were offered free re-upholstering and freindlyness my x-wife who was agnostic.
tankerfa1 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but what's the title of the book again?
TheCuppycakedelight5 1 year ago
Every hour/day passed, is another hour/day closer. We must be ready when the time comes. We wont know it, so we must be alert just as Jesus said in Matt. 25:13
RogueObserver 1 year ago
Christendom is unveiling it's mask and it's not a pretty site. Lies, deception, profiteering, empire building at the expose of the followers, Pedophilia, hate crimes, tax avoidance. she is the Accuser of the world. The sulfur crested cockatoo, squawking lies all over the planet. Like durrr, get your act together and practice what you preach!
stoodOnAnArk 1 year ago
ITS BASED OFF ASTROLOGY THATS WHY-PURE SATANISM RESEARCH IT
theywarnedus 1 year ago
Wake up and smell the coffee, people. The time is coming and the time is now.
srnixdorf 1 year ago
@srnixdorf No, it is not yet time. We do not know the hour(and no, it's not as it is seen in the 2012 movie lol). You're right that the day and hour IS coming. When Christ comes back for the second time, He will take those who He truly calls as His own for God. Everyone else WILL perish from Judgment.
Wake up, smell the coffee, DRINK the coffee, know that the coffee is good, thank the coffee maker(the Godhead), and BE ALERT!
Agent1W 1 year ago
nice message, people who believe in the bible are ostracized and outcasted in social settings, but we do have one advantage. christians tend to stick together. i forecast with much certainty that in the coming days things will begin to get much worse for those of the faith. the media doesn't project us in a kind light and many residents of earth are reverting to atheism, egyptian occultism and sinful lifestyles and their disagreement of our beliefs leads to persecution.
zooMZooMlikeATyphOOn 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Christians are the only thing standing between The People and a New World Order. They are trying to destroy the Bible without burning it, they are the government and all of its institutions.
aaronreina 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Jesus did say that his people would be one but that does not mean that they would be one in denominational name. He also said remember, "Other sheep have I which are not of this fold". Christ has people (at least right now) in various denominations. He did promise that during the "time of trouble" his people would hear his voice and become "one". Many denominations should reveal to you a desperate attempt of Satan to hide God's real truth and true church in a sea of confusion.
lastavius 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 The only church that keeps all 10 commandments is the 7th Day Adventist Church. They have the biblical truth about Saturday being the Sabbath...the same day Jesus kept and the Jews keep today. They also have the truth concerning the state of the dead & what happens when we die & about how one will not be burned throughout eternity for "the wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23, the wicked dead will receive the "second death"...Rev. 20:6.they will actually die out and not burn forever
lastavius 1 year ago
Christianity persecutes the america, not the other way around.
AvaAvaBoBava 2 years ago
AvaAva... Not real christianity... There are many people who say they are Christian yet do not follow the beliefs that Jesus taught which is to love (REAL love, not self-seeking love) the creator more than anything and love others as yourself (which is only possible when you know God, who IS love). Many have a form of godliness, yet deny God's power to change their lives and hearts. If you hate anyone, you do not know God (read the book of John). We submit to America, but God always 1st~
inthelight7771 2 years ago
@inthelight7771 , God (christianity) "IS" not love, if god were love, he would not send people to hell because they do not believe in Jesus. It's a good thing that this isn't true.
AvaAvaBoBava 2 years ago
@AvaAvaBoBava He doesn't send you to hell because of not believing but the fact you keep the sin with you and rejecting Christ. Sin separates you with the Father.
spideyrocks45 1 year ago
@spideyrocks45 Yeah and supposedly the only ones God allows into heaven (forgiving the sins of) are those that believe in Jesus. So that is just a different way of saying the same exact thing. (that sin seperates us from god) Ultimatly if God is all powerful, then it's god's choice that non-believers go to hell forever. I think that is absolutly horrific and am glad that it isn't true.
AvaAvaBoBava 1 year ago
Oh, pshaw, the lady in the video is not "suffering persecution"-- unless you consider being called a nitwit persecution. Especially in the American South, "Babble-believin" Christians" have a huge superiority complex, as if the world should kiss their ass.
luvdomus 2 years ago
Christians under attack? That's the biggest joke I've heard. If they don't attack non-Christians with their superstitious beliefs about sky daddy, bastard son & the spook, and using hate speech, condemning others as 'sinners' and 'going to hell', others would have say nothing about their harassment. Bullies crying victims.
FyFhFr25 2 years ago
Whatever we think of Christians, they have been persecuted, as well as persecute others. Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, pagans (old way believers, etc. all persecute and get persecuted in return.
Superseadragon 2 years ago
You are 100% correct there. The bible is the finale refuge for perverts, cowards, sadists and degenerates.
eviltreemonster 2 years ago
I would say it's at stage 3 from the exerpt, and I hope more persecution comes because it seems that in persecuted countries the Gospel flourishes and I also hope that we'll be able to handle it.
teagan73191 2 years ago
My dear I'm afraid you made a mistake, the category should be comedy cause this is hilarious! :D
bitchymeangurl2 2 years ago
why so dark?
GreenCures 2 years ago
you are full of shit.
that is why no one hears about it.
thegoochieguy 2 years ago
She never got around to documenting just how Christians are being "persecuted". Sounds like she has what psychiatrists call a "persecution complex".
luvdomus 2 years ago
Pay attention next time. I said that American Christians WEREN'T being persecuted right now but they might possibly be persecuted IN THE FUTURE.
Isaiah558thru11 2 years ago
There is no sign that Christians "might possibly be persecuted IN THE FUTURE" either, you're just trying to create paranoia aand resentment mong Christians. Americans are very tolerant of all religious groups, but tolerance works both ways, you know.
luvdomus 2 years ago
Oh, kid, they are definitely being persecuted, the gov/med is stuffed with contemptuous, arrogant anti Christian idiots, most of them outright criminals. Anyone who says different isn't living on this planet, but Christians do set themselves up by arrogant attitudes, naive interpretations, and intrusive behaviors.
cusanusnicolas 2 years ago
Just because there are "anti-christian idiots" in the government does not mean anyone is being persecuted. It doesn't mean that they ever will be either. People have a right to express their opinions and beliefs, and when those dont agree with yours, you cant go run crying "persecution!!"
Whats more, there's a constitution that protects everyone, minorities, majorities, and fringe groups alike. No one is being persecuted, nor ever will be.
KaseyAkira 2 years ago
Persecution is alive and Satan is pleased with the fact that he's given free lancing, but only God will triumph.
Persecution is slowly growing in America, The Bible banned in public schools, prayer banned in public schools. The question is how far will we go before we come to our senses?????? How long will we keep our mouths shut????
srnixdorf 2 years ago
The only Christian persecution in America is secularism.
Savior20061 2 years ago
@srnixdorf
Kids are free to pray any time in public schools before, between, and after classes. They just can't take time out during class to have a prayer session that students who may or may not share their beliefs would have to sit thru, if not participate in, or have the teacher lead such a session.
Also, Jesus said for his followers to pray in their closets, and that those who insisted in praying out in the open were usually hypocrites.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Pbirv, yet, it's interesting all the New Age beliefs that are forced on the kids. Many schools encourage meditation/yoga which is a religion yet ban anything to do with the bible. That shows me that we really don't have freedom of religion... only certain religions. Many preach tolerence, but are not tolerant to Christians.
inthelight7771 2 years ago
How are New Age beliefs being forced on kids? You mean the movie Avatar? Nobody's forcing you to go see it. The yoga that's being encouraged is a form of exercise and has nothing to do with religion. The Bible doesn't belong in a school that has kids of all different beliefs. How do you think a Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, pagan, or Wiccan kid would feel about having to sit thru a class where Christianity was being taught? How do you think their parents would feel?
Pbirv 2 years ago
If Christianity can be taught in public schools, then all religions have to be taught. I don't suppose many Christians would be too happy about a public school teaching Islam or a Muslim teacher starting class w/ a prayer to Allah.
Pbirv 2 years ago
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Pbirv 2 years ago
If you want your kids to have organized class prayer in school and have the Bible and Christianity taught, there's private religious schools for that.
Pbirv 2 years ago
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Even within Christianity, there's 2,000 different denominations, sects, not to mention just plain cults, who can't agree on which interpretation of which version of which Bible(Catholic, KJV, Mormon, Orthodox, etc) is the correct one. Do you really wanna inflict that on public schools? Organized class prayer was taken out of public schools for a very good reason. Public schools exist to educate, not to proselytize- to teach, not to preach.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Oh my really awful way this video victimizes "Christians" This view is so skewed in that it is polar opposite of what is real. I can't help but see the inherent comedy in the whole situation yet ironically it saddens me that people are so brainwashed they can only see their world from one perspective and miss how that may affect all others.
x1tekja 2 years ago
And yet a lot of people who preach the Gospel probably own a gun and they will use a gun to protect their own lives, which is a strong contradiction considering in how American Christians act so persecuted.
By no means am I suggesting that your guns should be taken away, I am just suggesting that maybe you should realize that Christianity is NOT a peace-driven religion, but one driven by war. It makes sense considering the history of Christianity I've studied.
mathgeek37 2 years ago
A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put...The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.
--Bernard Ramm
There is no fear for American Christians to be worried. IMO, since you whine and cry about being persecuted or of a coming persecution, it shows how LITTLE FAITH you have in your God. It's funny really.
mathgeek37 2 years ago
why is it chriatian americans always make it seem like they are the center of chritendome you guys need t get over yourselves chriatains all over the world are being persecuted its not just going to be american chriatians so really drop it.
Utube7372009 2 years ago
Christians are trying to drag our science classes
back into the bronze age, where their god was invented.
Xians want to stop atheistic advertising.
They bang on the doors of private homes
to try to spread their religion.
They try to tell others who they can love,
what day of the week they can work, etc, etc, etc.
If persecution come to the xians of America
they have only themselves to thank.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago 2
@Imaginefree69 IN THE BIBLE GOD SAY'S: THAT ALL KNOW THAT HE (GOD) EXISTS, SO ALL WILL B WITHOUT EXCUSE. WE CHRISTIANS R COMMANDED BY THE LORD 2 PREACH THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL 2 ALL THE WORLD. WHAT PPL PROBABLY HATE MORE THAN THE PHYSICAL CHRISTIAN AT THEIR DOOR IS THE "MESSAGE" WE BRING. REPENT!!! THE BIBLE WARNS THAT PPL WILL HATE CHRISTIANS + EVENTUALLY PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS WORLD-WIDE. GOD IS LONG-SUFFERING. NOT WISHING THAT ANYONE SHOULD B LOST. ALL WILL BOW 2 JESUS THE LAMB OF GOD
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@The3in1trinity "ALL WILL BOW 2 JESUS"
Not me, baby.
I do not bow to evil, sadistic terrorists.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Those who claim "every word of the Bible is inspired by God" overlook several key facts:
1. The original manuscripts- the ones that were allegedly "God breathed" or inspired- are no longer in existence;
2. The oldest complete NT manuscript dates to 350 AD- over 300 years after Jesus allegedly lived;
3. The oldest complete OT manuscript dates to 1000 AD;
4. If all we have are copies of copies of copies (etc) we cannot determine HOW accurately they reflect what God actually "inspired".
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
We have the Holy Spirit to tell us the meaning. Didn't you know that?
The copies of copies were written in aligned columns and rows, like a crossword. Each column and row of letters was added to a known sum and checked. If any column or row total was off, the page was discarded.
There is a mathematical pattern flowing through those number-letters. Yet, the books were written thousands of years apart, and the pattern is not apparent unless all books are assembled together.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
"The copies of copies were written in aligned columns and rows, like a crossword. Each column and row of letters was added to a known sum and checked. If any column or row total was off, the page was discarded.
There is a mathematical pattern flowing through those number-letters"
Okay. We get it. A "Bible code" crackpot. Enough said.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
A back rub would be nice, yes!
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago 2
We're not controlling the government. We're just represented in the government--makes sense if we're the majority. We don't control "the media" either--this is part of the media! Everybody is free to express his or her views in some forum now, thanks to the internet. I don't trust the mainstream media, because most of what they report isn't what I would consider newsworthy. Hell, if anybody controls "the media," it must be Paris Hilton. As for the "fucking white house..." redundant, dude.
Dkin71 3 years ago
Christians are not being persecuted you stupid kid... you guys are the majority...
Yea... its not like you guys are controlling the government, the media, and the fucking white house.
guitarmaestro078 3 years ago
Faith in god is a suspension of critical thinking, it is sick. These people need education, god does not exist, religion is just a bad joke. Fundamentalist are fascists, we should get rid of them!
conservativessuckass 3 years ago
So you advocate brainwashing and/or execution for all Christians? That's about two billion people. You'll have your work cut out for you. Oh, and you sound like a REALLY good person.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Yes, i mean by education, the more educated people are, the less they believe in non sense religions like yours. Thank you, i believe i am a good man too.
conservativessuckass 3 years ago
You're welcome.
Dkin71 3 years ago
Sorry, posted under husband's profile. Me Christian. Me stupid!
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Well you said it, lol.
conservativessuckass 3 years ago
thank you:)
conservativessuckass 3 years ago
When did he say he wanted to execute christians...? you are an idiot dude... now i understand theists when they say they are being persecuted. YOU WANT TO BE PERSECUTED.
guitarmaestro078 3 years ago
"We should get rid of them."
Dkin71 3 years ago
He was talking about fundamentalist fascists... he was clear and he also said by educating them not by killing them
guitarmaestro078 3 years ago
We Christians are victims! Victims! Poor us! Please smother us with pity. We represent only 85% of Americans, and we are being persecuted by the tiny minority. Somebody please save us. All we want is to erect our Christian symbols everywhere, force every American child to pray during school, and cram our moral values down everyone else's throat, and they won't let us. It's not fair, and those other people are big meanies. Waaaaaaaah.
pynchonfan 3 years ago 2
You either didn't watch the whole video, or you are so blinded by anti-Christian prejudice that you could not understand it. I addressed that statistic.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Christians should not be persecuted. They should be treated for having a mental disorder.
judoyodan 3 years ago
"38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals."
--Excerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon Skousen. These were two of forty-five goals for the communist takeover of America.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
"For every one that curseth his father or mother shall surely be put to death."
Leviticus 20:9
"If a man have a stubborn and rebelious son, bring him unto the elders of his city, and all of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from amoung you!"
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"Suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
1 Timothy 2:12
Tell me you're not crazy to believe in this shit.
judoyodan 3 years ago 2
Nice try. How unoriginal. I believe that every word of the Bible is inspired by God. Since I am a Christian, I am not required to conform to the legal standards of the old Mosaic system. Therefore, the Scriptures in Leviticus and Deuteronomy do not dictate how I conduct myself as a parent. Duh. I don't have a problem with I Timothy because I understand the context of it. I suppose there's no point in trying to reason with someone who cannot spell "among."
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
oh, how I wish I had your wisdom...
able to discern the word of god which applies...
from the word of god which does not apply.
Of course, if only god were real,
he could set us all on the same page himself...
SpeakerForrTheDead 3 years ago
"I believe that every word of the Bible is inspired by God. "
Where in the Bible are the precise words, " Every word of the Bible is inspired by God" ? Chapter and verse, please?
If that exact verse does not appear in scripture, then you are talking not about what the "word of God" actually says, but merely your opinion.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
Bin Ali: The exact scripture is 2Tim 3:16
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
Notice that this scripture is just 3 verses away from that quoted at the outset of this video.
Also, it took me one Google search to locate this scripture.
You should fear for your soul- are you justifying a rebellion against God's Word, or are you seeking truth? Your channel page shows the former true.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
"You should fear for your soul"
No. But I have noted you cannot refute a single thing I've said.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
Of course, I have exactly refuted your denial of scripture (compiled into the Bible) not being from God by giving chapter and verse. Now, you want to pretend that scripture and Bible refer to two different things.
Scripture includes a bigger set of writings, yes. BUT, the Bible is ALL SCRIPTURE.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
"Bin Ali: The exact scripture is 2Tim 3:16"
And where, precisely, is the word, "Bible" in that passage? Instead of engaging in veiled ad hominem (i.e., "fearing" for my "soul" and other silly melodramatic antics) , can you answer my question: Where in the Bible are the precise words, " Every word of the Bible is inspired by God" ?
No. I knew you couldn't.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
Perhaps you can help the rest of us out and explain exactly what "scripture" includes.
You have chosen the wrong path, Bin Ali.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
"Bin Ali."
The name's Ben. I know your type strives hard at functional illiteracy, but it's a three letter name. If you go really slow when you type, you might be able to manage it.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
'Bin' means "son of" and Ali is typically a non-Christian name. I am insinuating to you who your father is in the work you do.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
" I am insinuating to you who your father is in the work you do. "
At least I HAVE a father. You have five felon suspects with an array of STDs.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
BTW, my name is Georgia, not Isaiah. I'm not a prophet, lol!
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
I've just been observing this trend of "reverse discrimination" against Christians by minority groups that seem to feel "judged" just by being in the presence of Christians. I didn't know you were a transsexual, so you can't say I "judged" you for it. All I have to do sometimes is tell people I'm a Christian and without even asking me how I feel about non-Christians, they'll proceed to call me a homophobic, bigoted, religious zealot who hates science! Why do people do this?
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
The biggest persecutor an American Christian will ever face is Howard Stern. Why not learn from the Jews--victims of *real* persecution--to keep on going no matter what, since you don't have the luxury of hand-wringing and self-pity? (Hate to break it to you, but overhearing a joke about Jesus or Mary is *not* the equivalent of the Holocaust.)
pynchonfan 3 years ago
Well, the Jews persecuted the Christians at one point...hello? Practically every group of people has experienced some form of persecution, and today the Scripture is being fulfilled which predicted "the love of many shall grow cold." We can't fight hate with more hate. The atmosphere in America is very volatile right now. Racism is getting much worse, especially among so-called "Christians." Persecution can come from within the body of Christ as well as from non-Christian entities.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
I dont deny you the right to peacefully assemble. Go for it.
I will never protest when you do so either. Never.
Isaiah please, religious judging of me, for being a transsexual, occurs daily. I had never stuck my nose in any Christian's business until they had stuck their nose in mine more times than I can count.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
I believe I had seen the video. They were peaceful, but trying to protest in the middle of a gay event, not on a sidewalk, and not at all removed a reasonable distance. They were arrested, and then let go. If only they had chosen to live and let live and stayed away.
When did you take it upon yourself to judge others?
When did you lose your love for your fellow man?
Some people think your religious rules are foolish, why must you try so hard to impose them on the unwilling?
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
Why do you want to deny the right of Christians to peacefully assemble?
Why do you accuse me falsely?
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
And Sarah, do you not realize that you are in fact judging me? Plus, "love" involves more than just sentiment. It's about sacrifice, not giving a mental assent to the question of whether a person is lovable. Disagreeing with a person's actions is not hate. If you think about it, the opposite of love is indifference, which is what I think you are advocating, right? That I shouldn't care?
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
I would wager that overall, Christians persecute everyone else far far more than they are persecuted themselves.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
How do you figure? Is it like I said, that non-Christians feel persecuted when Christians witness to them?
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual/group by another group.
Do you really believe this isn't true of Christians? Ask a gay person what he thinks.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
I think there are certain "Christian" groups that definitely persecute homosexuals, such as the Westboro group, but I don't think it's as widespread as we've been led to believe. Ex-gays are persecuted more than gays. I know all about that.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Oh my. I think you must have blinders on if you think Westboro baptist church are the only christians who persecute gay people.
Just look at the amount of people opposed to same-sex marriages based on religious reasons. Preferential treatment for one group over another is persecution.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
The issue is over the definition of "marriage." If you support gay marriage, you should support polygamy too. Don't be biased, and don't be a hypocrite. I have a solution to this problem. Allow gays to marry. Allow polygamy. MAKE DIVORCE ILLEGAL. That would improve the "sanctity of marriage." Gay people having sex is no threat to marriage. Christians should worry more about divorce.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
You have diverged from the topic, but I will respond: In this day and age, marriage is a civil and social union anyway. I'm not religious at all, and there will be no church or mention of god at my ceremony, yet it would still be a legal marriage. To say that same-sex couples cannot enter into this exact same type of marriage is discriminatory and therefore, persecution.
Is it not true that the large christian population in the united states is the backbone behind this persecution?
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
To answer your question, yes. I think your hypothesis backfires on you though. Christians have been arrested for appearing at gay pride parades--peacefully--yet gay people get away with having public sex at the Folsom Street Fair in SF every year. Who has more rights?
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Why would someone be arrested for appearing at a gay pride parade? Since it is not illegal to go to a parade, I assume there was protesting and rabble-rousing involved.
This is my point. If someone is protesting at a gay pride parade, they are persecuting the gay people. Since you say "Who has more rights" it is clear you wish to restrict rights upon your judgment.
All people should have equal rights. If you can get married, then everyone can get married. No restrictions.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
Then people should be allowed to have a straight pride parade where the police arrest any homosexuals who show up, huh? I do not wish to restrict the rights of anyone but rather preserve the rights of the individual states to rule on the definition of marriage. I can't marry anyone I want. Should bisexuals be allowed to marry both a man and a woman? It's a slippery slope.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
People *are* allowed to have a straight pride parade.
As for people being arrested, you should drop this as an argument. It isn't believable that innocent bystanders are arrested just for not being gay at a gay pride parade.
As for the definition of marriage, it is fine if you want to define it in a certain way if it doesn't mean anything other than within a religious context. This is not the case.
Marriage actually means something in a civil and legal context. ...
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
To be married means more than to commit to your partner. It means there are differences in terms of taxes, ownership of property, distribution of wealth. There are many many spousal benefits that go far beyond what is governed by any church.
If a straight couple can take advantage of these strictly civil, then it is discriminatory not to allow a same-sex couple these same benefits.
The argument of preserving the definition of marriage fails because the definition changed long before...
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
you were born.
Conceding that somehow religion is responsible for some prior definition of marriage, surely you are aware that there is no longer any religious requirement to be married.
In this day and age marriage is first and foremost a legal concept. The definition changed long ago, and since nobody upset back then, then it is clear that preserving the definition now is a made up reason in hopes of precenting same-sex couples from marrying.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
You're the one who has diverged from the topic completely. I never said that I was opposed to civil unions for homosexual couples. This has nothing to do with the possibility of Christians being persecuted in the future...except you assume the worst of Christians and ignore the FACT that other groups get away with having public sex while screaming about "intolerance." I'm not anti-gay, so please drop it. This is unfruitful, and it shows how little you know about me!
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
I simply mentioned same-sex marriages as an example of how Christian groups are currently persecuting others.
After that you went on about parades and people getting arrested and whatnot.
I don't assume the worst of christians, but I do find it irritating when they complain about being persecuted when their entire history from ancient times to current day is rife with the persecution of others.
Btw, the occurences of straight, public sex would surpass gay public sex any day.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
I am not complaining about being persecuted AT ALL. My point is that Christians MAY be persecuted in America in the future. Why is this so hard for people to understand? I thought I stated that pretty clearly in the video. Just watch out for propaganda. It's all designed to incite hatred for others and divide this country so that we can be more easily controlled. God bless you.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
Which god did you mean?
Nevermind.
They're all the same nonsense.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
well, it did happen in philadelphia, where a group of Christians were peacefully protesting on the sidewalk at a gay pride event and were arrested and thrown in jail. One of the people arrested was an eighty year old woman. So it does happen.
hasani42 3 years ago
I didn't put "IN GOD WE TRUST" on your damnable dollar; in fact, I'm very offended by that phrase being there. I feel that any discussion with you would prove unfruitful, for you display little understanding of the "TRUTH." The truth is that the phrase, "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE," also on the dollar, represents a much greater threat to your Constitutional rights than any vague allusion to "God" ever will.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
actually writing "God" on a dollar bill isn't a vague allusion, it is an exact specification.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
"God" is a generic term for any deity. It could refer to the Judeo-Christian God YHWH, or it could refer to the Deistic "watchmaker God." It's not specific. Does nobody care about the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve? I guess people would rather blame other people for things they had no part in than actually try to restore our freedom and sovereignty.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago
The religious beliefs of capital G makes all the difference. No point in arguing this one.
Sarahjanam 3 years ago
Nobody forced you to watch this.
Isaiah558thru11 3 years ago