My mind colonised! I take offense to that. I am not seeing things the way I want to but rather the way they are. Most of sources that I've sent you have disregarded or totally misread. If a protagonist was active in the slave trade I will denounce it if not they are not. Start reading the links that I gave you.
3rd level thinking? Markellion I am not stupid! I woud have to do a video response to clear things.
Livingston himself wrote that the slave trade required funding from British subjects. Other sources make it clear that British merchandise was being used for the slave trade even during the abolition period.
You are basing yourself only the Livingstone quote, and the buying of goods for the sale. But this evidence is quite thin. What types of goods were they? Were they profitable?
British and French subjects were involved in the Trade with Brazil. But how much did the British crown benefit from that since they choked the Brazil trade (look back at the links) What and how would they finally reap from it?
Compared to the financial gains of India, the jewel of the Empire, as well as the Opium trade was it even worth anything? That is if they did really manipulate it. It's more individuals reaping from it then the crown. This is not the 18th century and not west Africa, circumstances have changed. They could maintain unstable zones, playing up people one against the other, but not for too long. The aim during colonisation was gain of territory, raw material and manpower.
I could use the case of the Congo when officers of the Force Public working for Leopold the second had a hard time conquering areas were locals had guns. The British under impulse of people such as Rhodes wanted to have the Cape to Cairo and areas in between under control. There is a local and indian sea dynamic concerning the slave trade.
And finally forgot to mention British influence came only later in the 19th century while the trade was already an ongoing process
In my response I made the mistake of asking of the value of the goods. The goods in your argument are to be used as currency local groupings depend upon but this type of manipulation would not have had a lots of benefits as I explain in the rest of my comments.
My mind colonised! I take offense to that. I am not seeing things the way I want to but rather the way they are. Most of sources that I've sent you have disregarded or totally misread. If a protagonist was active in the slave trade I will denounce it if not they are not. Start reading the links that I gave you.
3rd level thinking? Markellion I am not stupid! I woud have to do a video response to clear things.
congobigp 2 years ago
Take a moment and look at the evidence.
Livingston himself wrote that the slave trade required funding from British subjects. Other sources make it clear that British merchandise was being used for the slave trade even during the abolition period.
markellion 2 years ago
To be specific this is what I want you to address, Livingston's quote:
"It is well known that the slave trade in this country is carried on almost entirely with his money and that of other Banian British subjects"
markellion 2 years ago
You are basing yourself only the Livingstone quote, and the buying of goods for the sale. But this evidence is quite thin. What types of goods were they? Were they profitable?
British and French subjects were involved in the Trade with Brazil. But how much did the British crown benefit from that since they choked the Brazil trade (look back at the links) What and how would they finally reap from it?
congobigp 2 years ago
Compared to the financial gains of India, the jewel of the Empire, as well as the Opium trade was it even worth anything? That is if they did really manipulate it. It's more individuals reaping from it then the crown. This is not the 18th century and not west Africa, circumstances have changed. They could maintain unstable zones, playing up people one against the other, but not for too long. The aim during colonisation was gain of territory, raw material and manpower.
congobigp 2 years ago
I could use the case of the Congo when officers of the Force Public working for Leopold the second had a hard time conquering areas were locals had guns. The British under impulse of people such as Rhodes wanted to have the Cape to Cairo and areas in between under control. There is a local and indian sea dynamic concerning the slave trade.
And finally forgot to mention British influence came only later in the 19th century while the trade was already an ongoing process
congobigp 2 years ago
considering it's relatively small size compared to west Africa (I sent you links to this effect ).
However I would have no problem agreeing if you had more precise sources pointing in your direction.
congobigp 2 years ago
In my response I made the mistake of asking of the value of the goods. The goods in your argument are to be used as currency local groupings depend upon but this type of manipulation would not have had a lots of benefits as I explain in the rest of my comments.
congobigp 2 years ago
in depth, where is the person you are debating? i see no counters to anything you post?
thanks for the in depth though.
i do wonder how you can poor through all of that knowing the inclination of the writers
Azzaiel 2 years ago