I think fitness was one of the key reasons Monica's comeback in the mid 1990s wasn't as successful as her first career. The second problem I believe Monica had was her game. Monica rarely came to net. Monica had powerful groundstrokes BUT she did not take the ball out of the air enough and volley enough. I think if Monica had gotten into top physical condition maybe her second career would have been more succcessful as the first.
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Two of the most overrated players of all time displaying their joke excuse of tennis. The ball looks like it travelling a kiddie speed compared to the queen Williams sisters.
@serenakicksass i get you're not a fan, stop commenting the same thing on every monica and justine video then, no one is forcing you to watch them you're just coming of as a bit of a dick. NO OFFENCE and im a fellow serena fan but reading th esame thing everywhere about one of my favourites annoyes me and i the exact same thing when someone disses serena or venus!
Well, when u rate a player it depends on a lot of things. Is it the skills, the wit, the fighting spirit, the physical power, or the number of Grand Slams... that makes one a better player? Maybe Henin is NOT the best in any of those criteria, but her playing style - the combination of all those factors, has contributed so much to the tennis world and made it more exciting and worth-watching. Thanks for letting us know ur opinion, but plz respect others' too!
@serenakicksass Yeah, cause tennis is all about the power. I'm a Williams fan myself, but your comment about kiddie speed is just making you sound dumb as hell.
@serenakicksass yeah for someone who isn't a fan you do watch a lot of Seles videos, anyways those deep powerful shots Seles was hitting was what they were watching on tv winning GS and they decided to follow in the footsteps like a lot of the Big Babes players that followed her.
@monica012077 My reference was mostly towards the talenteless breastless Henin who is useless thrash as evidenced by the fact she never won a Wimbledon (just like Seles but atleast in her case you could argue she might have won one without the stabbing, Henin has no excuse), has a pathetic 2-7 record vs Venus, and in this video is even losing in straights to a way past her prime Seles.She won all her slams due to a pathetic clay field and the Williams slump. She cheated to win a few to.A loser.
@serenakicksass well i'll never stand in the way of anyone who's willing to trash Justine, with her lack of a W title, dismal record against Venus & Serena, her beatdowns by Bartoli, Pierce, Petrova, Sharapova all on fast surfaces it's clear Henin prefers slower pts and play so she can make decisions, she can't handle fast play fast thinking tennis against powerful consistent players. I do agree she would haven never dominated on clay if not for the weak and/or distracted field.
Her record against Serena is far from dismal, actually she has a 4:3 head-to-head record in Grand Slams. Venus has a good record against Justine because they played most of their matches when Justine was still quite young. As far as the other big hitters are concerned, Justine usually beats them on EVERY surface (7:3 against Sharapova, 14:2 against Petrova, 3:1 against Bartoli with a double bagle in their last match, 4:1 against Pierce, 16:3 against Kuznetsova)
@serenakicksass You would have the very nerve to mention cheating... Serena Williams is the queen of cheating.. the most infamous the rib-malfuction in the 2005 Australian Open... never been a worse case of cheating EVER !!!!!
@karrtt1234 : Rib malfunction?? Give me a break! You're just bitter that Lindsay Davenport once again blew a Grand Slam final and went down so pathetically. And I'd also like to point out that Serena has NEVER quit in the middle of a Grand Slam final... unlike that little troll Justine Henin...
@serenakicksass U are a joke Seles and Graf both beat the Wiliamses and if graf and seles had the same raquets that these apes are playing with we would be watching matches that would be unbeliveably great instead of the apes winng whenever the decide to show up
@dwaynebuddha Only racist haters like you dislike the Williams as your apes reference proves. All intelligent not bigots respect and know how great the Wililams are for tennis.
@serenakicksass You are kidding u bag everyone on every forum u can and someone calls the apes apes and and i'm bigot and a racist how about you wake the fuck up hey . Graf would have in her prime smashed both sisters of the court (and she did) , Seles would have baffled the with angles they didnt know existed (and she did) so before you come onto forums and type shit read some history between graf and seles they have won 31 grand slams and have nearly 700 weeks as no1 between them
@dwaynebuddha Serena has more slams than overrated Seles and her career isnt even over yet. Graf owes many of her slams to the Seles stabbing. What the hell do you mean they did. Seles is a combined 2-14 vs the Williams fool, lol! Graf played the Williams when they were babies in 1999 and only went 3-3.
@serenakicksass and graf was 30 yrs old and hobbled with injuries and they were in there primegod vs a fit graf they would have been destroyed FOOL go back to the planet of the apes
@dwaynebuddha Graf won the French Open and reached the Wimbledon final that year. She was so washed up, LOL! Meanwhile Serena especialy was about 30% the level of player she would be in 3 years yet was already beating Graf, and barely lost in her only loss. She was a baby in her first full time year on tour. By the way Graf was 29 when playing Serena that year, yet overrated Graf didnt get her first win over Chris until she was 31 and was slaughtered by 30 year old Martina in slam finals.
@serenakicksass if you watch Seles' matches you get intensity, power, mental toughness, consistency, skills which aren't overated since they existed in the Williams Sisters at one time, but they took those skills for granted and never honed them and now they are gone :)
@monica012077 The Williams sisters are far from gone. Serena won 2 tournaments this summer and reached the U S Open final after a life threatening illness. Venus may be gone but she is 31, Seles and Graf were gone at 29 and Henin the breastless little man was gone at 25 (well other than her pathetic comeback attempt).
@serenakicksass Venus will be out for awhile, i think her GS days are over, she may have one more W in her. Serena is on the decline, although all her accomplishments have been amazing this year she hasn't played enough, this was the first year that either sister didn't win a GS title, and both Serena and Maria played tentative, nervous tennis with weak serving in GS finals this year, i think all 3 are going away and the Golden Retriever is going to dominate an era of boring baseline tennis
@dwaynebuddha well you know if you refer to a Black person as an "ape" its considered racist. Saying it doesn't make you racist if your trying to hurt or insult, but if you really believe they are apes then yeah your a racist. Don't know how hurling insults works in Australia, then again black & aborigine rugby players are hurled racist comments regularly at games, maybe its different there, not saying it's fine and dandy here in US either.
@serenakicksass lmfao. The wiliams modelled their style after Monica LMFAO! So ok. AND I LOVE THE WILLIAMS TOO! But fans like u make them look bad. :(
Not to mention she was totally outplayed by Zvereva in the quarters anyway. It had nothing to do with lack of fitness, she simply couldnt handle Natalia's spins and crafty shots on the low sliding grass and got dominated in the 2nd set.
@serenakicksass Plus this was the one of the last years with the old style grass, Monica had no chance during that time. Natasha didn't capitalize anyway because she lost to Tauziat and her brash in your face always at the net style. One of my favorite W's ever for the women was 98, last time you saw so much variety on the court. Anways Monica had just gotten to the finals of the French, cut her some slack, and her father had just passed.She deserved to pig out if she wanted!
It is amazing how Henin went from being owned by Venus, Serena, Davenport, Clijsters, Seles, and Capriati in 2001 and 2002 to dominating in 2003 and early 2004. Did she get a whole lot better or did everyone else just get older, injured, retired, or worse.
Imagine how much of a contender Seles would have been during 2000- 2004 if she had ever gotten fit. There would have been a couple of Grand Slams in there for her.
@juju1305 Novotna > fit Monica on grass. Davenport, Venus, Hingis > fit Monica on grass too. And Zvereva did not beat Seles in that match based on superior fitness, otherwise Seles wouldnt have destroyed her in all their hard and clay matches from 97-99, she did it by outcrafting and maneuvering Seles on the grass. Monica wasnt ever winning Wimbledon in 1998. Her only shot of winning Wimbledon was in 1994 where she probably could have beaten Cowchita Martinez.
@serenakicksass I also dont think Seles would have won FO 1999. I think FO 97-98. maybe one between 2000 - 2002. Australia 1999, USOPEN 1999 she had a real shot. maybe one more. I agree though, I dont know about her game on grass. she never had good movement on turf. Her game didnt adapt as well as some of the other players.
@serenakicksass A fit Monica managed to beat a 7-time Wimbledon champ on Centre Court. Since she was able to handle Navratilova's spins, serve-volleys and placements, there's no reason why she wouldn't have been able to handle Novotna.
@RaleighNC306 I attended this match live and it truly was EPIC. The matchpoint Monica had was on a letcord that dropped back on her side after hanging in the air. A great match from both women.
Monica looks sharp, fit and with impressive angles....I love her game. Nobody produces thoses groundstrokes like Monica Seles. My favorite tennis player!
@zaireanboy You can count Lindsay too, but she doesn't compare to Monica. Lindsay had more power; however, Monica possessed an unorthodox technique that made her produce amazing angles!
Monica is so quiet. It's eerie.
mark0s3000 3 months ago
i love you monica
pogset36 7 months ago
I think fitness was one of the key reasons Monica's comeback in the mid 1990s wasn't as successful as her first career. The second problem I believe Monica had was her game. Monica rarely came to net. Monica had powerful groundstrokes BUT she did not take the ball out of the air enough and volley enough. I think if Monica had gotten into top physical condition maybe her second career would have been more succcessful as the first.
JordanjamesX 9 months ago
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Two of the most overrated players of all time displaying their joke excuse of tennis. The ball looks like it travelling a kiddie speed compared to the queen Williams sisters.
serenakicksass 1 year ago
@serenakicksass i get you're not a fan, stop commenting the same thing on every monica and justine video then, no one is forcing you to watch them you're just coming of as a bit of a dick. NO OFFENCE and im a fellow serena fan but reading th esame thing everywhere about one of my favourites annoyes me and i the exact same thing when someone disses serena or venus!
JamiieOwen3T 1 year ago 12
@JamiieOwen3T You should organise to have that troll banned from commenting on your videos.
Hokit 1 year ago
@serenakicksass:
Well, when u rate a player it depends on a lot of things. Is it the skills, the wit, the fighting spirit, the physical power, or the number of Grand Slams... that makes one a better player? Maybe Henin is NOT the best in any of those criteria, but her playing style - the combination of all those factors, has contributed so much to the tennis world and made it more exciting and worth-watching. Thanks for letting us know ur opinion, but plz respect others' too!
Gabb2188 1 year ago
@serenakicksass Yeah, cause tennis is all about the power. I'm a Williams fan myself, but your comment about kiddie speed is just making you sound dumb as hell.
Toompsel 1 year ago 4
@serenakicksass yeah for someone who isn't a fan you do watch a lot of Seles videos, anyways those deep powerful shots Seles was hitting was what they were watching on tv winning GS and they decided to follow in the footsteps like a lot of the Big Babes players that followed her.
monica012077 4 months ago
@monica012077 My reference was mostly towards the talenteless breastless Henin who is useless thrash as evidenced by the fact she never won a Wimbledon (just like Seles but atleast in her case you could argue she might have won one without the stabbing, Henin has no excuse), has a pathetic 2-7 record vs Venus, and in this video is even losing in straights to a way past her prime Seles.She won all her slams due to a pathetic clay field and the Williams slump. She cheated to win a few to.A loser.
serenakicksass 4 months ago
@serenakicksass well i'll never stand in the way of anyone who's willing to trash Justine, with her lack of a W title, dismal record against Venus & Serena, her beatdowns by Bartoli, Pierce, Petrova, Sharapova all on fast surfaces it's clear Henin prefers slower pts and play so she can make decisions, she can't handle fast play fast thinking tennis against powerful consistent players. I do agree she would haven never dominated on clay if not for the weak and/or distracted field.
monica012077 4 months ago
@monica012077
Her record against Serena is far from dismal, actually she has a 4:3 head-to-head record in Grand Slams. Venus has a good record against Justine because they played most of their matches when Justine was still quite young. As far as the other big hitters are concerned, Justine usually beats them on EVERY surface (7:3 against Sharapova, 14:2 against Petrova, 3:1 against Bartoli with a double bagle in their last match, 4:1 against Pierce, 16:3 against Kuznetsova)
Tyrielish 2 months ago
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Also, 11:2 against Dementieva and 5:0 against Ivanovic
Tyrielish 2 months ago
@serenakicksass You would have the very nerve to mention cheating... Serena Williams is the queen of cheating.. the most infamous the rib-malfuction in the 2005 Australian Open... never been a worse case of cheating EVER !!!!!
karrtt1234 4 months ago 11
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@karrtt1234 : Rib malfunction?? Give me a break! You're just bitter that Lindsay Davenport once again blew a Grand Slam final and went down so pathetically. And I'd also like to point out that Serena has NEVER quit in the middle of a Grand Slam final... unlike that little troll Justine Henin...
kljMN2 1 month ago
@serenakicksass U are a joke Seles and Graf both beat the Wiliamses and if graf and seles had the same raquets that these apes are playing with we would be watching matches that would be unbeliveably great instead of the apes winng whenever the decide to show up
dwaynebuddha 4 months ago
@dwaynebuddha Only racist haters like you dislike the Williams as your apes reference proves. All intelligent not bigots respect and know how great the Wililams are for tennis.
serenakicksass 4 months ago
@serenakicksass You are kidding u bag everyone on every forum u can and someone calls the apes apes and and i'm bigot and a racist how about you wake the fuck up hey . Graf would have in her prime smashed both sisters of the court (and she did) , Seles would have baffled the with angles they didnt know existed (and she did) so before you come onto forums and type shit read some history between graf and seles they have won 31 grand slams and have nearly 700 weeks as no1 between them
dwaynebuddha 4 months ago
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@dwaynebuddha Serena has more slams than overrated Seles and her career isnt even over yet. Graf owes many of her slams to the Seles stabbing. What the hell do you mean they did. Seles is a combined 2-14 vs the Williams fool, lol! Graf played the Williams when they were babies in 1999 and only went 3-3.
serenakicksass 4 months ago
@serenakicksass and graf was 30 yrs old and hobbled with injuries and they were in there primegod vs a fit graf they would have been destroyed FOOL go back to the planet of the apes
dwaynebuddha 4 months ago
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@dwaynebuddha Graf won the French Open and reached the Wimbledon final that year. She was so washed up, LOL! Meanwhile Serena especialy was about 30% the level of player she would be in 3 years yet was already beating Graf, and barely lost in her only loss. She was a baby in her first full time year on tour. By the way Graf was 29 when playing Serena that year, yet overrated Graf didnt get her first win over Chris until she was 31 and was slaughtered by 30 year old Martina in slam finals.
serenakicksass 4 months ago
@serenakicksass if you watch Seles' matches you get intensity, power, mental toughness, consistency, skills which aren't overated since they existed in the Williams Sisters at one time, but they took those skills for granted and never honed them and now they are gone :)
monica012077 4 months ago
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@monica012077 The Williams sisters are far from gone. Serena won 2 tournaments this summer and reached the U S Open final after a life threatening illness. Venus may be gone but she is 31, Seles and Graf were gone at 29 and Henin the breastless little man was gone at 25 (well other than her pathetic comeback attempt).
serenakicksass 4 months ago
@serenakicksass Venus will be out for awhile, i think her GS days are over, she may have one more W in her. Serena is on the decline, although all her accomplishments have been amazing this year she hasn't played enough, this was the first year that either sister didn't win a GS title, and both Serena and Maria played tentative, nervous tennis with weak serving in GS finals this year, i think all 3 are going away and the Golden Retriever is going to dominate an era of boring baseline tennis
monica012077 4 months ago
@monica012077 Well in 2006 they both didn't win a slam.
karamazov93 2 months ago
@dwaynebuddha well you know if you refer to a Black person as an "ape" its considered racist. Saying it doesn't make you racist if your trying to hurt or insult, but if you really believe they are apes then yeah your a racist. Don't know how hurling insults works in Australia, then again black & aborigine rugby players are hurled racist comments regularly at games, maybe its different there, not saying it's fine and dandy here in US either.
monica012077 4 months ago
@serenakicksass lmfao. The wiliams modelled their style after Monica LMFAO! So ok. AND I LOVE THE WILLIAMS TOO! But fans like u make them look bad. :(
STNorry 2 months ago
Not to mention she was totally outplayed by Zvereva in the quarters anyway. It had nothing to do with lack of fitness, she simply couldnt handle Natalia's spins and crafty shots on the low sliding grass and got dominated in the 2nd set.
serenakicksass 1 year ago
@serenakicksass Plus this was the one of the last years with the old style grass, Monica had no chance during that time. Natasha didn't capitalize anyway because she lost to Tauziat and her brash in your face always at the net style. One of my favorite W's ever for the women was 98, last time you saw so much variety on the court. Anways Monica had just gotten to the finals of the French, cut her some slack, and her father had just passed.She deserved to pig out if she wanted!
monica012077 4 months ago
Seles was so fat, if she wasn't, she would have won a lot more grand slam titles.
beavertown2006 1 year ago
Henin was playing with her idol Seles here. I can't believe both of them had a chance to play against each other.
AdvertChild98 1 year ago
@AdvertChild98 Seles wasn't the belgian's idol, Graf was
kevin12061989 1 year ago
It is amazing how Henin went from being owned by Venus, Serena, Davenport, Clijsters, Seles, and Capriati in 2001 and 2002 to dominating in 2003 and early 2004. Did she get a whole lot better or did everyone else just get older, injured, retired, or worse.
grafgirl27 1 year ago
@grafgirl27 She was never dominated by Capriati, though.
LudwigDvorak 1 year ago
Great point @4:22 love the insane angles Monica creates with her strokes!
goodfellacr 1 year ago
Thank you!! Great to see. I have about 40 Seles matches from 97-2003, but have no idea how to digitise them!!!! Good to see new ones
sjportugal 1 year ago
Imagine how much of a contender Seles would have been during 2000- 2004 if she had ever gotten fit. There would have been a couple of Grand Slams in there for her.
audreyessex 1 year ago
@audreyessex yup. A fit monica could have won FO97, 98, 99 wim98, AO2002... Bunch of missed opportunities.
juju1305 1 year ago
@juju1305 Wimbledon 98? Thats a laugher. Seles could barely ever beat Novotna on clay by that point, forget about grass.
serenakicksass 1 year ago
@serenakicksass I know, that's wgy i was refering to "a fit Monica" as opposed to her actual physical condition back then.
juju1305 1 year ago
@juju1305 Novotna > fit Monica on grass. Davenport, Venus, Hingis > fit Monica on grass too. And Zvereva did not beat Seles in that match based on superior fitness, otherwise Seles wouldnt have destroyed her in all their hard and clay matches from 97-99, she did it by outcrafting and maneuvering Seles on the grass. Monica wasnt ever winning Wimbledon in 1998. Her only shot of winning Wimbledon was in 1994 where she probably could have beaten Cowchita Martinez.
serenakicksass 1 year ago
@serenakicksass I also dont think Seles would have won FO 1999. I think FO 97-98. maybe one between 2000 - 2002. Australia 1999, USOPEN 1999 she had a real shot. maybe one more. I agree though, I dont know about her game on grass. she never had good movement on turf. Her game didnt adapt as well as some of the other players.
audreyessex 1 year ago
@serenakicksass A fit Monica managed to beat a 7-time Wimbledon champ on Centre Court. Since she was able to handle Navratilova's spins, serve-volleys and placements, there's no reason why she wouldn't have been able to handle Novotna.
Hokit 1 year ago
monica played a terrific match!
IloveMonica4ever 1 year ago
Monica sure came into the net a lot! Great match. Thanks Jamie. (hingis-seles from TF)
asaleem92 1 year ago
imagine what monica could do if she had the speed she had before the stabbing. she does have the shots still she is so amazing
dorker1992 1 year ago
Wow, great highlights clip from one of monica's finest 2002 matches :)
juju1305 1 year ago
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MultiYoav 1 year ago
wow, Monica was amazing in this match - how about that one-handed forehand down the line?!
djphay 1 year ago
Anyone have Seles/Henin 2003 Dubai? I heard it was EPIC!
RaleighNC306 1 year ago
@RaleighNC306 I attended this match live and it truly was EPIC. The matchpoint Monica had was on a letcord that dropped back on her side after hanging in the air. A great match from both women.
asaleem92 1 year ago
i agree...great seeing a new clip in you tube
emileburger 1 year ago
wow...at least a new monica clip after all the "old" ones.. thanks!
MisterMusic74 1 year ago
@MisterMusic74 i still have monica vs sanchez-vicario 1996 tokyo and monica vs lucic 1999 wimbledon to upload :p and ur welcome.
JamiieOwen3T 1 year ago
@JamiieOwen3T Thanks a lot for the videos! They rock :)
goodfellacr 1 year ago
Monica looks sharp, fit and with impressive angles....I love her game. Nobody produces thoses groundstrokes like Monica Seles. My favorite tennis player!
goodfellacr 1 year ago
@goodfellacr What about lindsay davenport?
zaireanboy 1 year ago
@zaireanboy You can count Lindsay too, but she doesn't compare to Monica. Lindsay had more power; however, Monica possessed an unorthodox technique that made her produce amazing angles!
goodfellacr 1 year ago
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