69. To disrupt the Sangha, Devadatta asked the Buddha to make stricter rules of conduct for the Sangha. He asked that monks not be allowed to sleep in houses or eat any meat. But the Buddha refused and said: "If some monks prefer to sleep in the open or not eat meat, they are free to do so. But if they do not wish to live this way they do not have to." ... "Devadatta, if you try to break up the Sangha you will reap the evil fruits."
69. To disrupt the Sangha, Devadatta asked the Buddha to make stricter rules of conduct for the Sangha. He asked that monks not be allowed to sleep in houses or eat any meat. But the Buddha refused and said: "If some monks prefer to sleep in the open or not eat meat, they are free to do so. But if they do not wish to live this way they do not have to." ... "Devadatta, if you try to break up the Sangha you will reap the evil fruits."
The Real Religion Is Simply Watching And Observing The Operations And Mechanisms Of The Brain.That Is The Direct And Intimate Experiences Of Individual,Not The Reflections Of Any Existing Concepts,Outlines,Philosophies,Religions Or Any Knowlege Of Suttras,Bibles,Incantation,Koan,Koran,Etc,.
It is a very brief biography of S N Goenka. He was born in Mandalay city in Burma in 1924. He got married when he was 18. After WWII, he became a very successful clothes trader of MarYaWarYi Trading in Burma. He set up businesses named Bandola blanket factory and cooking oil factory. He was very clever in business. His hobbies are reading and art. He suffered Migraine disease for so many years and tried to get cured by the doctors in Burma and abroad.
Continue............. No one could not cure his disease. Judge U Nyan Tun gave him an advice which was to do meditation at the Sayagyi U Ba Khin's meditation centre. He started meditation course on 01/09/1955 and wanted to run away from the centre on his second day but did not and tried hard. His migraine disease was completely gone and he understood the most precious Dhamma from meditation. He used to have a big temper which was gone small as well.
Continue................He volunteered as a translator for Sayagyi U Ba Khin to be able to teach meditation to Indian people.He taught Indians meditation with Hendi language. His mother was gone very ill in India and he went back to India on 21/06/1969. He taught his family meditation. In 1969, he taught the first meditation course in Bombay in India. People liked it and very interested in it and wanted it more. He did so many courses every week.
Continue................At first, there was no meditation centre and he used schools, churches, hendi monastery and islam monastery as meditation centres. In 1974, his pupils bought 30 aces of land and built a meditation centre named Dhamma Giri. There is no cost at all for all students to learn meditation. The centre publish Vipassana Journal every month in Hendi language. There are 124 meditation centres in worldwide till 14/09/2004.
Continue..............The 15 centres are still building. There are over 1,000 assistant teachers helping to teach Vipassana meditation in the centres worldwide.
I translated it for you with my little english as far as I can.
with absolutely no disrecpect whatsoever for Mr Goenka, you don't need to "love Goenka" - only the method he's teaching, and keep applying it in your everyday life.
Just finished a 10 day course. I studied Zen for 8 years (4 in Japan). All I can say is `Do it`. My understanding of what Buddha was trying to communicate has now been experienced within my own body-mind and nothing will shake my belief that Vipassana was the technique Buddha taught.
mycal64, thank you very much for your comment. I have been 3 times so far and never had any doubt. Reading your comment has just been another reconfirmation I do not need ;-). But still very much appreciated. Bless you, Sabine
Hehe.. A friend has been training in Zen for 10 years.. he is on his first Vipassana course right now.. I have told him after this he will drop Zen.. he has his doubts.. I'm looking forward to see what happens :)
hehe, nah he didn't give up Zen. Tried his best to find any reason not to like Vipassana.. Came up with lots of silly little things..."The guy next to me was laughing all the time and the teacher never shut him up, that would never happen in Zen"..."Goenka makes stupid jokes".. etc etc... I think he was just jealous.. ;)
I believe Vipassana Meditation was first mentioned in the Veda. Later Hindus ignored it, but it was brought back by Buddha. To Hindus Buddha was a amazing reformer.
I do not remember the word cure being used in discourses, but after having been a long term drug addict, I have not used drugs or alcohol for over 18 years. For 17 and a half years of that, I have been following Vipassana in this tradition.
A man of peace, a very noble soul. Incredibly simple human being, preaching something extremely genuine without any pomp,false promises, self-glorification, idolatry and self-worship. He is bound to succede.
false promises? he makes claims which cannot be proven. Self Glorification? he is the next in line for a new Buddha isnt he? Selfworship? He doesn't need it because he has many followers. He is bound to succeed? What is success? Religion always fails us flesh and blood persons.
its not 'religion' per say. Its only about meditating by observing your own breath ( which has no religion) and attaining inner peace ( greatest proof of his succes. People of all 'religions' come to meditate under him ( seen it with my own eyes) to attain something universal ( inner peace), while other 'elite' gurus have their share of self-worship ( Goenkaji teaches no worship at all).
What he is teaching is genuine ( I've been to his course) and is in the line of Buddha, who was also another human being like him. He could well Buddha's rep in this era for his ingenuity.
I am not a Buddhist, nor am I his spokes person or ardent devotee, but I believe that wisdom can never be anyone's property. Why don't you try it for yourself to see if its real or not.That is the best way...to discover for yourself.
And besides, he has no special 'cult' following with followers going by the herd instinct, with common codes, vocabulary, greetings, gestures and symbols etc. There is no scope for all that because there is no philosophy, just your breath. But the best way to answer oneself is to experience it. An apple has no taste unless you eat it or atleast take a bite. But most of all remember, all branches of wisdom have asserted that there is absolutely no compulsion.
all round nice guy
findlaymcarthur 11 months ago
I respect s n goenka for what he did.
Buddhas glorious teaching has been helpful for people around the globe..
rockerpizza 11 months ago
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佛陀不吃素
69。要打動其他僧侶和尼姑,破壞僧團,提婆達多要求佛陀為僧團作出更嚴格的行為規範。他要求,僧侶不能睡在屋內或吃任何肉類。然而,佛陀拒絕提婆達多的建議。他說:“如果一些僧侶寧願睡在露天或不吃肉,他們可以自由地這樣做。但如果他們不希望這樣的生活方式,他們沒有必要那麼做。”最後,佛陀說:“提婆達多,如果您試圖分裂僧團您將獲得邪惡的果實。”
......佛陀的故事No.69
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Buddha Is Not A Vegetarian
69. To disrupt the Sangha, Devadatta asked the Buddha to make stricter rules of conduct for the Sangha. He asked that monks not be allowed to sleep in houses or eat any meat. But the Buddha refused and said: "If some monks prefer to sleep in the open or not eat meat, they are free to do so. But if they do not wish to live this way they do not have to." ... "Devadatta, if you try to break up the Sangha you will reap the evil fruits."
.... Story Of Buddha No.69
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Buddha Is Not A Vegetarian
69. To disrupt the Sangha, Devadatta asked the Buddha to make stricter rules of conduct for the Sangha. He asked that monks not be allowed to sleep in houses or eat any meat. But the Buddha refused and said: "If some monks prefer to sleep in the open or not eat meat, they are free to do so. But if they do not wish to live this way they do not have to." ... "Devadatta, if you try to break up the Sangha you will reap the evil fruits."
.... Story Of Buddha No.69
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The Real Religion Is Simply Watching And Observing The Operations And Mechanisms Of The Brain.That Is The Direct And Intimate Experiences Of Individual,Not The Reflections Of Any Existing Concepts,Outlines,Philosophies,Religions Or Any Knowlege Of Suttras,Bibles,Incantation,Koan,Koran,Etc,.
kao1306 2 years ago
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【真正的宗教只是注意觀察頭腦的運作,那是個人直接和私密的體驗,不是任何現存的觀念,理論,哲學,宗教,或是任何佛經,聖經,可蘭經,咒語,公案,等等的投射和反應】
kao1306 2 years ago
Can someone translate this in English?
Nitin0105 2 years ago
It is a very brief biography of S N Goenka. He was born in Mandalay city in Burma in 1924. He got married when he was 18. After WWII, he became a very successful clothes trader of MarYaWarYi Trading in Burma. He set up businesses named Bandola blanket factory and cooking oil factory. He was very clever in business. His hobbies are reading and art. He suffered Migraine disease for so many years and tried to get cured by the doctors in Burma and abroad.
2ht 1 year ago
Continue............. No one could not cure his disease. Judge U Nyan Tun gave him an advice which was to do meditation at the Sayagyi U Ba Khin's meditation centre. He started meditation course on 01/09/1955 and wanted to run away from the centre on his second day but did not and tried hard. His migraine disease was completely gone and he understood the most precious Dhamma from meditation. He used to have a big temper which was gone small as well.
2ht 1 year ago
Continue................He volunteered as a translator for Sayagyi U Ba Khin to be able to teach meditation to Indian people.He taught Indians meditation with Hendi language. His mother was gone very ill in India and he went back to India on 21/06/1969. He taught his family meditation. In 1969, he taught the first meditation course in Bombay in India. People liked it and very interested in it and wanted it more. He did so many courses every week.
2ht 1 year ago
Continue................At first, there was no meditation centre and he used schools, churches, hendi monastery and islam monastery as meditation centres. In 1974, his pupils bought 30 aces of land and built a meditation centre named Dhamma Giri. There is no cost at all for all students to learn meditation. The centre publish Vipassana Journal every month in Hendi language. There are 124 meditation centres in worldwide till 14/09/2004.
2ht 1 year ago
Continue..............The 15 centres are still building. There are over 1,000 assistant teachers helping to teach Vipassana meditation in the centres worldwide.
I translated it for you with my little english as far as I can.
2ht 1 year ago
I love Goenka!! Just back from 10 day retreat!
DrJeanine 3 years ago
@DrJeanine
with absolutely no disrecpect whatsoever for Mr Goenka, you don't need to "love Goenka" - only the method he's teaching, and keep applying it in your everyday life.
bless
marieno28 2 years ago
Just finished a 10 day course. I studied Zen for 8 years (4 in Japan). All I can say is `Do it`. My understanding of what Buddha was trying to communicate has now been experienced within my own body-mind and nothing will shake my belief that Vipassana was the technique Buddha taught.
mycal64 3 years ago 8
mycal64, thank you very much for your comment. I have been 3 times so far and never had any doubt. Reading your comment has just been another reconfirmation I do not need ;-). But still very much appreciated. Bless you, Sabine
SabineBe 3 years ago
Hehe.. A friend has been training in Zen for 10 years.. he is on his first Vipassana course right now.. I have told him after this he will drop Zen.. he has his doubts.. I'm looking forward to see what happens :)
lxvlx 3 years ago
Well did he? :)
LinktothepastZ 2 years ago
hehe, nah he didn't give up Zen. Tried his best to find any reason not to like Vipassana.. Came up with lots of silly little things..."The guy next to me was laughing all the time and the teacher never shut him up, that would never happen in Zen"..."Goenka makes stupid jokes".. etc etc... I think he was just jealous.. ;)
lxvlx 2 years ago
I believe Vipassana Meditation was first mentioned in the Veda. Later Hindus ignored it, but it was brought back by Buddha. To Hindus Buddha was a amazing reformer.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
Goenka's practise is negligent to put it politely. The vipassana people do not care about the failures either. So much for compassion.
dodgetheeruff 4 years ago
elaborate on that. Negligent how? Failure?
Ravenvipassana 4 years ago
Where are the cured alcoholics and drug addicts who have taken courses? Are they still cured after 10 years?
dodgetheeruff 4 years ago
I do not remember the word cure being used in discourses, but after having been a long term drug addict, I have not used drugs or alcohol for over 18 years. For 17 and a half years of that, I have been following Vipassana in this tradition.
Ninyae1 3 years ago
Have you undergone formal Vipassana training?
Have you conducted any studies which support your doubt for the Vipassana practice?
Goldenshowerpower 3 years ago
A man of peace, a very noble soul. Incredibly simple human being, preaching something extremely genuine without any pomp,false promises, self-glorification, idolatry and self-worship. He is bound to succede.
carlosmangela 4 years ago 4
false promises? he makes claims which cannot be proven. Self Glorification? he is the next in line for a new Buddha isnt he? Selfworship? He doesn't need it because he has many followers. He is bound to succeed? What is success? Religion always fails us flesh and blood persons.
dodgetheeruff 4 years ago
its not 'religion' per say. Its only about meditating by observing your own breath ( which has no religion) and attaining inner peace ( greatest proof of his succes. People of all 'religions' come to meditate under him ( seen it with my own eyes) to attain something universal ( inner peace), while other 'elite' gurus have their share of self-worship ( Goenkaji teaches no worship at all).
carlosmangela 4 years ago
What he is teaching is genuine ( I've been to his course) and is in the line of Buddha, who was also another human being like him. He could well Buddha's rep in this era for his ingenuity.
I am not a Buddhist, nor am I his spokes person or ardent devotee, but I believe that wisdom can never be anyone's property. Why don't you try it for yourself to see if its real or not.That is the best way...to discover for yourself.
carlosmangela 4 years ago 3
And besides, he has no special 'cult' following with followers going by the herd instinct, with common codes, vocabulary, greetings, gestures and symbols etc. There is no scope for all that because there is no philosophy, just your breath. But the best way to answer oneself is to experience it. An apple has no taste unless you eat it or atleast take a bite. But most of all remember, all branches of wisdom have asserted that there is absolutely no compulsion.
carlosmangela 4 years ago 3
@carlosmangela I am totally agree with You. He is precious for all of us. Love & peace to You!!!!
MsDhamma 1 year ago