Norman Finkelstein - Who Hates Jews? (29-Dec-10)(POLITICAL DISCOURSE series)

[egindin]

Finkelstein is a sincere, well-meaning idiot.

[ididete]

@egindin Why idiot?

[MrMhashim123]

"anti-Semitism is a term originally founded to express "anti-jew" creeds"

Exactly - invented by the evil Zionist to be used as a joker against everyone who criticizes the economic Imperial powers of these bankers in order to make people afraid to criticize Israel and their evil deeds.

Also founded to cloud the fact that ZIONISM IS IN IT SELF ANTI-SEMITIC and to make people not notice real semitic jews such as these:

watch?v=wXjP1xdqbmE

Zionism is satanic evil deception, so to speak

[MrMhashim123]

Zionist False Flag Operations:1946 Bombing of King David Hotel,Israelis dressed as Arabs 1954 Levone Affair, Israelis blew up American Instillations in Cairo to blame Egypt 1967 USS Liberty attacked by Israelis,34 Americans killed 170 wounded, to blame Egypt 1968 US Embassy attacked by Israeli commandos in Amman, to blame Jordan 1986 Berlin Disco bombing by Israel, to blame Lybia 2001 Israel attacks on 9/11.1st blamed on Palestinians by Mossad Agents Caught on scene. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

[RJMTacoma]

read george ball's book..."the passionate attachment"

as undersecretary of state...George Ball speaks of the history of Israel misdeeds our govt often did its best to cover up.....such as attack of USS Liberty...the most harmful spy in our midst...Israeli-American Jonathan Pollard.....The anti-arabic terrorist commando squad by Israel that massacred a peaceful village...Der Yassain....that killed 34 pregnant women according to a Swiss Red Cross representative..... nighttime raids by Israeli

[RJMTacoma]

Finkelstein is right on...the putz disagreeing with Finkelstein is overlooking Israel's purposeful attack on USS Liberty off Israel in internation waters in 1967...when Israel wanted to violate a cease fire to overrun Golan. This is clearly described in a book by undersecretary George Ball's book "The Passionate Attachment"

[hansvancumalot]

jews are bad

[verumdolor]

There is a growing criticism of Israel. There is NOT a growing hatred of Jews.

[TheGokmovies]

Good to know that 1 out of 4 jews are tuff enough to be real to truth,its a good begining on the long way for peace.

[Patrick5009]

It is about justice and in-justice.Building a wall around people based on race and religion is wrong. It was wrong when the Germans did it and it is wrong now that the Israelis have done it. If antisemitism is growing it is a reflection on the way Israel treats the Palestinians. If the Israelis cant see and treat the Palestinians as equals and treat them with the respect everyone deserves regardless of race, religion then they are a racist state and should expect people to feel disgust for them

[aslamtaq555]

zionists are not jews, its deliberate paranoia to justify the killing of palestinians, i like jews, i like there religion n way of life, zionists evil

[AmphibiousKnight]

These books are the evidence of what he thinks is correct. This joy Norman Finkelstein is absolutely correct.

[Chemtrailsexist]

....and let me add: One House for One House, One Hospital for One Hospital, One Mosque for One Temple! Fairness, please!  Better still: No war against each other anymore.

When my grandfather learned about the Warshaw Ghetto Rebellion he cursed Hitler. "When my sons (soldiers at that time) should have been involved in such atrocities, I wished they were dead! " Reason enough for the Gestapo to bring him to a Concentration Camp because a neighbor spied and told this to the Nazis. .

[Chemtrailsexist]

Gentlemen, can we agree on the Old Testament's word: One Eye for One Eye, One Tooth for One Tooth? Why does Israel not answer only adequately to the kassam rockets, when an Israeli becomes the victim ? That would only be fair to the Palestinians, who are living under the rule of Israel, which is denying them the food, the medical treatment, the building material to rebuilt what Israel destroyed? I do not care, who the Elders of Zion were, as long as no one behaves in that terrible way.

[xxcrysad3000xx]

The format of this show could use work, and Finkelstein comes across as arrogant, inarticulate and rude, turning what could've been a worthwhile dialogue into a petty dog and pony show about his own wounded vanity, while at the same time stepping on everyone else's lines. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[DrBakshandeh]

@chugalongway Well the point is that when the Sha (kind of Iran) left Persia became an extremely hostile place for Jews just like the rest of the Arab world. One of the main purposes the state of Israel was created was for people like my Persian family to live in a place where they would not be discriminated against and live among there fellow Jews in peace and not have a to live with laws that always give Muslims the upper hand in everything.

[SaraTheCoolCucumber]

Woah, this Jeff dude really is good at bullcrapping

[DrBakshandeh]

My goodness I see such stupidity in almost all of these comments that it makes me puke!! You brainless idiots should all be ashamed of yourselves ENOUGH SAID!! Wow you are all a prime example why our world is turning into such a g-d forsaken shit hole I'd try to reason with all of you but, that would be a waste of my brain cells to people who are quite clearly brainless.

[DrBakshandeh]

@chugalongway I'm a Persian Jew and I'm a Zionist as well :)

[3choBlaster]

The first dude says:

Antisemitism in some places is "biologically determent" WTF ... hahah people are Born hating Jews now, are you telling me there is a jew hater gene!? HAHA .. what kind of retard does Yale university employ

fucking bastards, stop acting like you're victims .. now your even blaming nature of being antisemitic

[Mrspeakerofthehouse2]

@3choBlaster These zionist sympathizers will sink so low to label those of us that speak against the truth of the Zionist scumbags who call us Anti-semitic. That is the weakest arguement of these cry babies because they are intellectually and morally deficient. I LOVE BEING ANTI-SEMITIC if that is how we are going to be labled but I will say this Norman Finkelstein is knowledgeable man and a good man. He is Jewish and if I were to meet him on the street I would meet him with a kind heart.

[3choBlaster]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 Of course man, Finkelstein is a great man a honorable man ...

And I have no problem with Jews at all .. only the Zionists and the people profiting from the holocaust industry (by no means denying the holocaust, but it's sick how people still use it to justify their crimes, play victims and make money)

[xxcrysad3000xx]

@3choBlaster He's referring to a racial angle to their anti-Semitism, in addition to the geopolitical and historic roots.

[TheCaucasianEagle]

@3choBlaster lol, applaus, i wud award you for best comment 2012!!!!!

[manga88888888]

Norman Finkelstein is not the greatest speaker but what he does say is quite objective, well informed and from my own research - absolutely correct....!

[musarman]

If it was true that 'we' hate [peoples] then we would still be treating Germans and the Japanese like dog shit. But that's not the case, so what do these bitches want?

[lolnostanku]

Speaking slow.

LIKE A BOSS.

[mkpete777]

What do those two scumbags propose?taking your freedom of speech away is on their agenda

[Greenyxt]

I was watching this video and because I believe the man at the top left hand corner has some good points, I'm now considered an Anti-Semite, thereby adding to the explosion of anti-semitism referenced in scholarly works, written by jews.

[damerz0405]

1730: He doesn't mention the Palestinians.. maybe he considers them sub-human.

[trendyasdabbers]

Norman Finkelstien is a blithering idiot as proven in this video. His only argument is that antisemitic nations and leaders are labeled Hitler? hahahaha what a fucking idiot. The guy talks so slow it's hard to even follow his points. The other 2 jewish guys were intelligent, proved their sides quickly, and made Fink Fuck look like the blind fucktard that he is.

Lol he keeps interrupting with nothing but bullshit and then tried to call the other 2 out for fillibustering? FUCK YOU.

[manga88888888]

@trendyasdabbers - we have obviously seen different videos....??????

[LucaBoulders]

@trendyasdabbers which video did you watch?

[FreddyClapton]

God damn this man is a brave Genius! I wish he could talk faster so he can tell me everything he knows.

[clouz22]

Good interview, but tell the host to get a mute button for the guests, good god it's not a new piece of technology.

[yougonasorry]

wow even I can see that the two jews here are lying manipulativ bastards, OBJECTIVELY all that norman is saying is true! its so obvious to see it! never heard about these people before

[worldphilosopher101]

the second scholar's manner of not allowing a single point made by Finkelstein to have any validity swhatsoever IS...essentially...the main problem.

[ikbob21]

israel to be brought down.

[ideasarebulletpr00f]

I really wish they would work on the delays that come from these satellite interviews, it makes it so awkward because the person on the other side is hearing what we're hearing like 3 seconds after it happens so they get cut off a lot, and when asked a question there's another awkward silence while they listen. lol

[MichaelBMercier]

"Discussion". Jesus, I wish these guys would let each other speak.

[13dachronic]

a Semite are those people from seeds of abraham. Both jews(the race) and arabs.

[kaliska291]

Stalin was ready to attack whole Europe so German intelligence worked very well and it was pre-emptive strike and Hitler was much smarter then Stalin.Learn history do not follow it by victorian-historian

[senyah5]

Israhell is a Rogue State, built on stolen Palestinian land

[waddellwon]

Classical Anti-Semitism was defined in the video as issues surrounding "How Jews do in business and whether they integrate or stick to themselves". Forgive this old new-anit-semite for saying so but isn't the non-gentleman simply talking about issues around jewish culture and economic success? The bottom line of his implication being that If Jews do not do well in business it is because of anti-semitism; and further if Jews decide not to integrate this is a response to anti-semitism; BS & BC

[residentzombie]

Hamas was created by Israel.

[LeonardMichaelis]

Finkelstein is very passionate about this subject and knows more than all the other guys put together. However, I'd agree with him only 95%.

[residentzombie]

@LeonardMichaelis It's not the the others don't know as much as Finkelstein does, it's that they know what Finkelstein says is true and must spin it because he attempts to show people how these Zionists use this phrase to hide the truth of what they are doing.

[LeonardMichaelis]

@residentzombie: sometimes I just think that they are brainwashed since their childhood and when they grow up cannot accept the reality or different ideas, but you might be right as well. In that case they are not only hypocrites, but also criminals.

[islamway123]

The guy left under is a TOTAL IDIOT! The Prophet of Islam Muhammad was an Arab and Islam started with Arabs, and guess what, ARABS ARE SEMETIC! But these zionists don't only occupy other man's land, but also occupy the word "anti-semetic" to justify all sorts of crimes and to shut any critic of zionism up.

[LePetitGrosse]

normal finklestein - useful idiots?

[timewilltell7]

at 17 he is saying we are being racist and blaming israel - well if netanyahu's religious advisor is telling him to enslave the goy and kill people he should fucking get the blame

i blame judaism for giving us its derivative islam

the jews need to learn some humility and manners and start being human and get rid of their horror book which does transactions in foreskins - check it - and the muslims need to get rid of their killer koran

BAN ABRAHAMIC CULTS - THEY'RE INSANE

[timewilltell7]

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef - i just checked what this man has been calling the whole human race - these people are anti human

judaism should be banned for racial hatred - whats the difference between judaism and nazism - i can't see it

read Rabbi Waton's essay Nazism is an Imitation of Judaism - they thought they were the chosen people too - its a rabbinical concept

thats why in the Book of Numbers - 4th book of moses they ask the naza rite to do a holo caust - see naza / rite nazi rite

[SublimeLebanese]

To compare Hezbollah to Al-Qaeda is a falsehood.. Al-Qaeda are full blown Wahhabi terrorists.. Hezbollah only fight to defend Lebanon

[OrodesIII]

Dr. Finkelstein could take-on half a dozen bloated egos like this pair of phonies and still wipe the floor with them.

[joesoap81]

Its Anti semitic to say the words ''Jew'' or ''Jewish'' if your not Jewish.

[mrtruthify]

@joesoap81

Except "Jew" is not even a racial term.. it's LATIN.. and it's geographical, not racial.

Juat the same.. "jew" does not correspond to JUDAH, JUDAHITE, nor Israelite.

"Jews" are Mongolian Khazars, Edomites and Canaanites, NONE of which are Israelites.

An actual fact.. "Semite" (Greek word), those who descended from the Biblical Patriarch SHEM.. just means a white man.

That is whats truly paradoxical. Shemites are just "White people."

My channel clears the matter up.

[thewhisperingeagle]

@joesoap81 JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWIII­IIIIIIISSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH

[7notabene7]

Jeff Herf does change the subject.....why doesn't he agree with Raul Hilberg? He won't touch that one.

[7notabene7]

I think Finkelstein completely owned these guys. Unbelievable how pathetic they look.

[keatsblake100]

@7notabene7 They didn't look pathetic. They looked saddened, becuase Finkelstein is a living disgrace to human rights.

[thelordmemnoch]

"Norman Finklestein - The Movie" starring John Malkovich.

[HerenuiKAHA]

Norman Finkelstein wins!!!!

[Gobbycourier]

@HerenuiKAHA He always does

[HerenuiKAHA]

@Gobbycourier you're right, he's direct and fearless. Such brilliant beings are rare.

[flimpkin4]

Can't the interviewer get a couple? Or, if not, a mute switch when the Zionists are ignoring him and keep on speaking?

[eugenealbert]

I am sick of all this crap,, we all equal,, quit using racism,, it only creates more hatred

[BeatPella2010]

Norman finkelstein is a clever man he made both them zionist fake jews stfu lol

[warwize]

the guy on the bottom left panel looks hilariously cartoonish

[vangelis721]

One cannot be anti-semitic towards fake Jews..They are not a semetic race..Ashkenazis and Khazars...Fake Jews and Zionists fail..Fuck your New ANTI-SEMITISM!!!

[loser42453]

@vangelis721 dumbass 2 percent of jews are khazars research your facts idiot

[vangelis721]

@loser42453 Bullshit. You get your JEW facts straight. Idiot. You fucktards think you are so clever with your propaganda.. YOU LOSE! LOL!

[pabnaful]

Norman Finkelstein is not what he seems to be. If someone notices carefully enough, it can be understood that he is very much with Israel. Its all an illusion. people just fail to see it. Its a controlled debate.

[Tulach7]

Norman Finkelstein is a brilliant academic. The hatred directed at him by the unquestioning apologists for the horrific human rights abuses of Israel only enhances his courage and reputation. I love Jewish culture but despair at the damage resulting from the intolerant ideology of Zionism. Any state defined by religion (Israel or Saudi Arabia as examples) cannot but be intolerant/racist and claim to be civilised. Tragically extreme Zionists are the architects of the so-called new anti-semitism.

[humper9]

Professor Finkelstein is part vulcan...steely logic...

[Zslayer95]

Jews r the gayest raice in the world they caused the Nazi to get mad!!!!!!!!!

I have spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nystagmus]

i find it hard for an arab to be antisemetic when arabs ARE SEMITES!!!!! HELLO!

[nystagmus]

@BallerandRunner with all do respect, that makes no sense. arabs are not just muslims: they are christians, druze, and jews. Ridiculous ressponse.

[nystagmus]

@BallerandRunner semite is an ethnicity. Judiasm is a religion. Do not mix up the 2. So what are you saying that arabs are not semites? There are plenty of chritisians in jordan, lebanon, syria, palestians (im not going to count the coptics in egypt). There are druze in lebanon and israel. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

[nystagmus]

@BallerandRunner Enough with the name calling, i will admit is started with the ill words. I get your point about muslims being the majority of arabs. BUT arab is an ethnicity; a semitic ethnicity. Judiasm and Islam are religions. I think the term anti-semitic is used incorrectly when arabs are called anti-semitic. Nazis were anti jewish and anti-semitic (arayan vs jewish semites). thats my argument. semites arent exclusive to just jews. If we say that then we are taking away who arabs are.

[aminak48]

pete loves norm!

[DoctorHello]

Mr. Finkelstein clearly comes out as the more intelligent thinker and eloquent speaker in this debate.

[northwestblazinfire]

16:13 the bullshit mental gymnastics start from the airbag

[panthera50]

Finkelatein : ♥

The rest : *puke*

[Otzmatron]

The equivocation and sanctimonious pontifications of Charles Small (brain), have been iterated by every Israeli spokesman or woman, and resonate mainly the output and agenda of an organization called "the UN Watch", a private media organization designed to spew empty statements and propaganda whenever Israel is faced with criticism. Netanyahu is known for these proclamations, such as "blaming the victim", warning everyone about the spread of antisemitism and other scare tactics and frivolity.

[pederman15]

there is also a correlation betweent the warsaw ghetto and the palistinian ghetto. get your heads out of your asses. go finkelstein

[pederman15]

there is also a corrolation betweent the warsaw ghetto and the palistinian ghetto. get your heads out of your asses. go finkelstein

[smartcnut]

Everyone needs to read the San Remo mandate !

[saileddragonfly]

Every time someone say antisemitism i take a toke!!!

[4truthnina]

Finkelstein is intelligent, and honest. It appears the other two; like many others are intelligent but sadly, very few want to hear the truth. Instead, they use their intellect to argue their beliefs, and prejudice. Regardless of the truth, regardless of the toll it takes on our humanity.

[Rich34909]

The difference is that those country's who are (saying)they seek the destruccion of Israel are not actually doing it, BUT Israel is. They are still building settlements.

You can,t counter argue FACTS with retoric Israel deserves every bit of negativity they receive. Europe should wise up and take a powerfull stand against Israel and American politics, because they are actually causing this Islamofobia and anti-semitism. They have no credibility when it comes to progress in a peace solution.

[chisler000009]

It's interesting to watch when Finkelstein engages with other scholars. They always seem to end up having to resort to truly shameless tactics.

[ElDesmadreGriego]

I am so happy that the comments are pro-Finkelstein, I get angry when they're not.

[wfenio]

Finkelstein is awesome! He's done so much to clarify the topics he deals with.

[shoplifter2]

I'm always fascinated by the fact that Finkelstein's opponents so often denounce him in their statements as a trivial extremist, then increasingly interrupting him throughout the debate until he can barely get a word across. If he's such a minor figure, whose arguments are so inconsequential and incoherent, how come they are so terribly afraid to let him speak?

[surlagachette2]

Just listen to them! We must listen to and learn about radicals in palestine. The victims of a 60 year bloody military occupation. But we must nothear or know about the same kind of groups that are in power in israel! A former prime minister who thinks non jews should be inslaved. These are not fringe ideas in israel. They are the people in power! But you should not know about that. They are saying it out loud! Its absurd! These are professional liars and manipulators!

[surlagachette2]

"I have got to be fair, jump in" Thy have two hardcore zionists who repeat lie after lie against one normal person. This is not fair because it gives the zionists dubble the time to speak and distort.

[surlagachette2]

He says it without hesitation or shame. Critizising israel is antisemitism. This is ofcourse false. But facts do not mather to zionists, No amount of critisism of israel can ever be antisemetism. This is inherently contradictory. You can claim that the critisism of israel iws Caused by antisemetism. But not that the critisism in it self is antisemetism.

[realitycheck1883]

Two more get skewered by Norman Finkelstein

[first2blast]

norman Finkelstein is a gangsta! he also man with broad knoweldge of the arab-israeli conflict! and a serious scholar and historian! those two muppets got nothing on him!

[Da1juicy]

What is this New Antisemitism? Mr. Small or Mr. Herf in they're allegiance to the "New" Antisemitism, never does mention that Israel repeatedly refuses to follow international law. This is the main central problem with the region today.

[Amunkriket]

@Da1juicy How lawful are 1,000 rockets a year flying out of Gaza from 2001 to 2009? The word "surrender" might be useful here. It was considered a war crime that was eventually prosecuted for Japan and Germany to prolong WW II after they knew they couldn't win. How is it different for the Palestinian Arabs to fight a war they lost 6 decades ago?

[surlagachette2]

@Amunkriket THe difference is that palestinians are the vicitms of occupation and constant war crimes from israel. Germany were like israel the agressors. You have an indisputeble right to fight against an illegal military occupation.  Quite obvious isnt it? You dont even have to compare the amounts of violence commited by the occupation army, the ethnic cleaning done by israel or the fact that israel still today is stealing more land to show that the resistance is legitimate.

[Da1juicy]

What is this New Antisemitism? Mr.Small or Mr. Herf in they're allegiance  to the "New" Antisemitism, never does mentioned that Israel repeatedly refuses to follow international law. This is the main central problem with the region today.

[AlKadath]

There's an interview w/ Raul Hilberg, decrying the claim of a "New Antisemitism". Google "Hilberg" and "interview", and it'll be one of the first up there.

For those that don't know, Hilberg was the one that uncovered most of the hardcore documentary evidence on the Holocaust. If anyone can be considered an "expert on antisemitism", it is he.

[psycropticunt]

I had considered reading A Lethal Obsession but now I don't think I will. Finkelstein's parents were IN the Holocaust yet he is a holocaust denier? What a joke.

Hillberg would be spinning in his grave if he knew about his name was being abused by Herf.

[Bluestarhand]

Professors Small needs to stop giving out soundbites, which was about 80-90% of what he talking about in this show; Professor Herff is only slightly better than Small, that does try to give out facts but doesn't seem to be able to take on Norman Finkelstein's facts. In my view, in this program Professor Finkelstein floored both of them.

[diceyLee]

These 2 "Professors" need to read the Goldstone Report.....

[adam246811]

@diceyLee yeah thats awkward. In 2011 Goldstone conceded that he no longer believed Israel deliberately targeted Palestinian civilians. There goes that attempt at delegitimating Israel.

[diceyLee]

@adam246811 No it doesn't.... I know what Bibi tried to make GoldStone seem like, but go find what GoldStone actually said.... And how it doesn't de-legitimize the GoldStone report in any way, shape, or form.

[diceyLee]

Norman Finkelstein is the beast of logic!

One day the world will realize just how correct he has been.

[perussell66]

@diceyLee Very true-in 500years people will wonder what kind of world rejected his factual statement- maybe a world where power and self interest is king.

[NaBjE11]

piece of cake for finkelstein rally not much meaningful the 2 only speak nonsens.

[horror11]

@diceyLee well what does finkelsteins logic say about 911? :)

[diceyLee]

@horror11 That said; Dr. Norman Finkelstein is not intrinsically correct... I'v debated him myself.

[horror11]

@diceyLee it might be something else why he isnt allways correct.:)

u have 3 jews debating each other, whoever u pick u support a jew and when u ever heared malcolm x talking about controlled opposition u can clearly see the trick in here.

finkelstein has awsome good views on mid east just like many others, but what makes average ppl follow HIM is that he is a jew and "u cant be antisemitic" when u support a jew .can u see now why they rly debate "antisemitism"?

its good cop, bad cop :)

[diceyLee]

@horror11 In this debate sure, but that hasn't stopped attacks on Finkelstein; calling him a "self hating jew".

[horror11]

@diceyLee u can attack ppl to make them look like they are opposition.

yes, they call him alot of names and thats what makes him trusted in the scene, but thats exactly the trick u use to plant controlled opposition.

i think its much safer to trust ppl who know that 911 is a lie.

finkelstein does not believe that 911 is a lie, chomsky also defends the official lie.

now tell me,how can sane ppl with a high intelectual and logical thinking still promote the bs about 911?

only disinfo :)

[sivshani]

@diceyLee I do admire Norman passion, morrals and dedication. he is an outstanding man. his logic however, particulary in this debate is a beat shakey.

there is a wide fenomena of de-humansetion towars "Zionists", Israelis, or even Jews. this fenomena canno't be ignord.

the fact that 99,999 times before Israelis compare enemies to Nazis has nothing to do with that.

as Noeman himself say often, wish sell not astray from the subject.

so, no. I don't think Norman's Logic shined in this debate.

[sivshani]

@diceyLee I do admire Norman passion, morrals and dedication. he is an outstanding man. his logic however, particulary in this debate is a beat shakey.

there is a wide fenomena of de-humansetion towars Zionists, Israelis, or even Jews. this fenomena canno't be ignord.

the fact that 99,999 times before Israelis compare enemies to Nazis has nothing to do with that.

as Noeman himself say often, wish sell not astray from the subject.

so, no. I don't think Norman's Logic shined in this debate.