Eftersom det enda Bildt har att säga är "Mubarak var med i Socialistinternaionalen fram till i måndags" har han ingen riktig argumentation. Mona Sahlin säger att S i Sverige längre velat få väck Egypten ur organisationen, och lyckades slänga ut honom från den europeiska verksamheten 2005, vilket Bildt ignorerar och lägger skuld på Sahlin för Mubarak var kvar i det internationella samarbetet.
Jag drar slutsaten att Sahlin vann på grund av Bildts dåliga argumentation och Sahlins trovärdiga svar
@jwillborg part 2 . This could be seen 2 weeks ago in CNN and BBC. You are not muture enough to discuss about politics because as it seems right now you have been living way to comfortably and never had to struggle and elbow your way through life.And please don't send me more messages because I am not interested to have a conversation with you.
@avesta72 I mean... I hate to interupt but you told him to re-read what you wrote etc. Now I tried to do that but you really shouldn't attempt to speak English, if your English is so utterly horrible that you HAVE to use Google translate just to write a short message then... Stick to Swedish or try to learn some more English.
Also the fact that you're assuming that JWillborg isn't mature and was born with a silver spoon, is really quite stupid and immature as you know nothing about him.
@avesta72 You've also tried to forward some sort of message regarding Sweden that you really failed to deliver IMO. It seems as though you disslike Sweden or well, its Government. May I ask why? Is it merely due to the fact that we or well, Bofors ship arms to third world nations? Yes you can probably see some older Swedish firearms beign used in Lybia, but not very many. I mean compare the number of Swedish firearms and missles to the number of AK-47's and AKM's that's circulating there...
@Danne9000 Vilken ursakt??? det finns i vapenhandeln nagot som heter bulvaner..svenska vapen & sprangmedel ar sakerligenmer spridda an vad svensk statestik avslojar...man kan inte ata kakan och ha den kvar..vapenhandeln ar valdigt kompetitiv..de svenska reglerna ar ju skapade for att kringgas och Bofors-affaren 1986 ar ett av Palmes & Sossetens storsta hycklerier nagonsin..av enperson & rorelse som ville bekampa "kapprustningen i Varlden".Indien skiter i sina fattiga,pengarna gar till vapen.
@am1966ath Ja men faktiskt, spelar ju ingen större roll. Vi skeppar ingen större mängd vapen, spelar ingen roll om vi skeppar gamla vapen till diverse länder. Ja hela Indiens BNP går till vapen.
@Danne9000 Gamla vapen kan ju ocksa doda..skjutvapen och robotar ar ju ingen farskvara..en vattenkydl kulspruta fran 1 a varldskriget eller ett maskingavar fran andra varldskriget kan doda lika bra som en AK-4.
@am1966ath *Med hela BNP menar jag så klart 1.85% av BNP, bara lite högre än Sveriges militära utgifter som ligger på 1.35% av BNP. Hur stor del av det som används till vapen är jag dock inte säker på. *
@Danne9000 indien anvander sakert mer pengar pa sitt forsvar an pa halsovard eller skola, jag tror ocksa att Indien morkar sin statestik dvs man anvander mer pengar till vapen an vad som syns..Indien har ju gubevars stormaktsambitioner som sitt grannland och dodsfiende Pakistan som anvander ungefar 65% av sin stadsbudget pa militaren som blivit en stat i staten. Sjalvklart ar inte sosseten skuld till denna kapprustning men man kan ju se pa denna fula handel med oppna ogon.
@jwillborg Go and study engelska.Dina reasoning is equally as ridiculous era coward Minister. them are wrong in their head and you, that sells weapons to other countries "like Sweden" by Bofors and five others to the arms industry, and then builds Swedish welfare system and then play lover of peace. Now be quiet. and do not play Dubel morality that era politicians
Sweden has always had a strong arms industry, you forget that despite we've had peace for 200 years we haven't exactly been inactive as far as military goes. Just 20 years ago we had 1 million soldiers avaliable for duty in case of a war. Of course the legacy of that is that we've sold weapons, noone's denied that. I'd like to see how peaceful your own country is.
@jwillborg And for what Sweden has a strong arms industry?! to sell to other countries to either regimes oppress freedom movement or set it in war with its neighbors? typical Swedish mentality. Your compatriot from the 70's producing weapons in my country. They were next door to me in the same street. Do not be proud that you are selling weapons. You should sit now and have a moment of silence for each sveska bullet that killed one person, then you will miss time.
If they weren't swedish bullets they would be russian or something else. We sell weapons, we've never denied that. People use them in wars, is that really our fault? I'm not proud, but I'm definitely not ashamed, swedish arms industry is still strong despite heavy cutbacks. It does not bother my conscience one bit.
@jwillborg what?! it's a crazy excuse. If something is wrong with the arms trade, why Sweden do then? You confiscates the faults of others to see Sweden has the right to sell arms. Lots of mafia and criminals are preparing and kill others peace and freedom, by arming dictators, when you say we sell weapons they use it in war!. it seems you have no respect for others' rights. those who want freedom do not need weapons. Why all weapons sold outside the EU and the United States?
It's not an excuse at all, you're assuming I think a certain way. We have no less of a "right" than anyone else to sell arms. We've never sold to mafias or known criminals, if swedish weapons end up in the wrong hands it's hardly our fault. What do you mean by "others rights"? What does that have to do with us selling weapons? Also you should consider that Sweden today sell very few weapons compared to many other countries.
@jwillborg Kadafi. poo platters King Abdullah and the rest of the dictators around the Persian Gulf and other countries who kill freedom them are criminals. They got weapons from Europe, United States and rysland. they are selling arms know beforehand which makes the dirty trade. Sellers and buyers of weapons are equally guilty. I said not confiscate other people's fault that certain its right. You had a lot of lung in Sweden. If you were exposed as one of those countries, could feel the pain.
It is only recently that Kadafi has been questioned, like this clip points out he was a member of the international socialist movement until just recently. May I ask what country you are from then, if Sweden is such a criminal and hypocrit state? I'm assuming you live here as well?
@jwillborg Never mind, the sick bastard Qadhafi belongs to which party. What he does is up to date. From what country I am and where I live, it changes nothing on, when it comes to facts and reality. If you have difficulty understanding the sentences it is not my problem. I told them that kill their people is a criminal, and I'm stuck on it. In principle, the reality has always been bitter. One should be realistic and brave and accept what is wrong. If I live in your country! Surprised.
Eh? Your english is quite sub-par and leads me to suspect you're using google translate or something. Whose people are criminals? You didn't really answer my question either, supposedly because you're probably not contributing much to society.
@jwillborg part 1If you are stuck on what is right or wrong, don't blame it on things like that. You got your answer regarding what I wrote, go read it through once again and this time more carefully. I don't live in your sociaty, so thereby I am not obliged to contribute to it. But one thing I know, and that is, what your country has done to economically less fortuned countries, regarding that you can see swedish weapons being used by the soldiers of Lybia
Eftersom det enda Bildt har att säga är "Mubarak var med i Socialistinternaionalen fram till i måndags" har han ingen riktig argumentation. Mona Sahlin säger att S i Sverige längre velat få väck Egypten ur organisationen, och lyckades slänga ut honom från den europeiska verksamheten 2005, vilket Bildt ignorerar och lägger skuld på Sahlin för Mubarak var kvar i det internationella samarbetet.
Jag drar slutsaten att Sahlin vann på grund av Bildts dåliga argumentation och Sahlins trovärdiga svar
Polyston 3 weeks ago
bra klippt i slutet din jävla idiot..
jnslgrd 1 month ago
Bildt vann
1315229 1 month ago
Båda är lika dåliga!
AlexanderLindell 3 months ago
Lika goda kålsupare är dom bägge två.
lurifaxable 4 months ago
Riktiga rubriken skulle ha vart: "En Bilderbergare möter en annan Bilderbergare".
MetalHeadViking 4 months ago 2
Varför klipps kritiken mot Bildt bort då? Inte objektivt
Polyston 4 months ago
Mona är ett jävla skämt.
SuperFantasticFox 6 months ago
@jwillborg part 2 . This could be seen 2 weeks ago in CNN and BBC. You are not muture enough to discuss about politics because as it seems right now you have been living way to comfortably and never had to struggle and elbow your way through life.And please don't send me more messages because I am not interested to have a conversation with you.
avesta72 10 months ago
@avesta72 I mean... I hate to interupt but you told him to re-read what you wrote etc. Now I tried to do that but you really shouldn't attempt to speak English, if your English is so utterly horrible that you HAVE to use Google translate just to write a short message then... Stick to Swedish or try to learn some more English.
Also the fact that you're assuming that JWillborg isn't mature and was born with a silver spoon, is really quite stupid and immature as you know nothing about him.
Danne9000 6 months ago
@avesta72 You've also tried to forward some sort of message regarding Sweden that you really failed to deliver IMO. It seems as though you disslike Sweden or well, its Government. May I ask why? Is it merely due to the fact that we or well, Bofors ship arms to third world nations? Yes you can probably see some older Swedish firearms beign used in Lybia, but not very many. I mean compare the number of Swedish firearms and missles to the number of AK-47's and AKM's that's circulating there...
Danne9000 6 months ago
@Danne9000 Vilken ursakt??? det finns i vapenhandeln nagot som heter bulvaner..svenska vapen & sprangmedel ar sakerligenmer spridda an vad svensk statestik avslojar...man kan inte ata kakan och ha den kvar..vapenhandeln ar valdigt kompetitiv..de svenska reglerna ar ju skapade for att kringgas och Bofors-affaren 1986 ar ett av Palmes & Sossetens storsta hycklerier nagonsin..av enperson & rorelse som ville bekampa "kapprustningen i Varlden".Indien skiter i sina fattiga,pengarna gar till vapen.
am1966ath 5 months ago
@am1966ath Ja men faktiskt, spelar ju ingen större roll. Vi skeppar ingen större mängd vapen, spelar ingen roll om vi skeppar gamla vapen till diverse länder. Ja hela Indiens BNP går till vapen.
Danne9000 5 months ago
@Danne9000 Gamla vapen kan ju ocksa doda..skjutvapen och robotar ar ju ingen farskvara..en vattenkydl kulspruta fran 1 a varldskriget eller ett maskingavar fran andra varldskriget kan doda lika bra som en AK-4.
am1966ath 5 months ago
@am1966ath *Med hela BNP menar jag så klart 1.85% av BNP, bara lite högre än Sveriges militära utgifter som ligger på 1.35% av BNP. Hur stor del av det som används till vapen är jag dock inte säker på. *
Danne9000 5 months ago
@Danne9000 indien anvander sakert mer pengar pa sitt forsvar an pa halsovard eller skola, jag tror ocksa att Indien morkar sin statestik dvs man anvander mer pengar till vapen an vad som syns..Indien har ju gubevars stormaktsambitioner som sitt grannland och dodsfiende Pakistan som anvander ungefar 65% av sin stadsbudget pa militaren som blivit en stat i staten. Sjalvklart ar inte sosseten skuld till denna kapprustning men man kan ju se pa denna fula handel med oppna ogon.
am1966ath 5 months ago
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avesta72 1 year ago 3
@avesta72
Är du full?
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg
Not like you!
avesta72 10 months ago
@avesta72
Din engelska och ditt resonemang är helt obegripligt så jag tänker tolka det som att du har något fel på huvudet.
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg Go and study engelska.Dina reasoning is equally as ridiculous era coward Minister. them are wrong in their head and you, that sells weapons to other countries "like Sweden" by Bofors and five others to the arms industry, and then builds Swedish welfare system and then play lover of peace. Now be quiet. and do not play Dubel morality that era politicians
avesta72 10 months ago 2
@avesta72
Sweden has always had a strong arms industry, you forget that despite we've had peace for 200 years we haven't exactly been inactive as far as military goes. Just 20 years ago we had 1 million soldiers avaliable for duty in case of a war. Of course the legacy of that is that we've sold weapons, noone's denied that. I'd like to see how peaceful your own country is.
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg And for what Sweden has a strong arms industry?! to sell to other countries to either regimes oppress freedom movement or set it in war with its neighbors? typical Swedish mentality. Your compatriot from the 70's producing weapons in my country. They were next door to me in the same street. Do not be proud that you are selling weapons. You should sit now and have a moment of silence for each sveska bullet that killed one person, then you will miss time.
avesta72 10 months ago 2
@avesta72
If they weren't swedish bullets they would be russian or something else. We sell weapons, we've never denied that. People use them in wars, is that really our fault? I'm not proud, but I'm definitely not ashamed, swedish arms industry is still strong despite heavy cutbacks. It does not bother my conscience one bit.
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg what?! it's a crazy excuse. If something is wrong with the arms trade, why Sweden do then? You confiscates the faults of others to see Sweden has the right to sell arms. Lots of mafia and criminals are preparing and kill others peace and freedom, by arming dictators, when you say we sell weapons they use it in war!. it seems you have no respect for others' rights. those who want freedom do not need weapons. Why all weapons sold outside the EU and the United States?
avesta72 10 months ago 2
@avesta72
It's not an excuse at all, you're assuming I think a certain way. We have no less of a "right" than anyone else to sell arms. We've never sold to mafias or known criminals, if swedish weapons end up in the wrong hands it's hardly our fault. What do you mean by "others rights"? What does that have to do with us selling weapons? Also you should consider that Sweden today sell very few weapons compared to many other countries.
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg Kadafi. poo platters King Abdullah and the rest of the dictators around the Persian Gulf and other countries who kill freedom them are criminals. They got weapons from Europe, United States and rysland. they are selling arms know beforehand which makes the dirty trade. Sellers and buyers of weapons are equally guilty. I said not confiscate other people's fault that certain its right. You had a lot of lung in Sweden. If you were exposed as one of those countries, could feel the pain.
avesta72 10 months ago 2
@avesta72
It is only recently that Kadafi has been questioned, like this clip points out he was a member of the international socialist movement until just recently. May I ask what country you are from then, if Sweden is such a criminal and hypocrit state? I'm assuming you live here as well?
jwillborg 10 months ago
@jwillborg Never mind, the sick bastard Qadhafi belongs to which party. What he does is up to date. From what country I am and where I live, it changes nothing on, when it comes to facts and reality. If you have difficulty understanding the sentences it is not my problem. I told them that kill their people is a criminal, and I'm stuck on it. In principle, the reality has always been bitter. One should be realistic and brave and accept what is wrong. If I live in your country! Surprised.
avesta72 10 months ago
@avesta72
Eh? Your english is quite sub-par and leads me to suspect you're using google translate or something. Whose people are criminals? You didn't really answer my question either, supposedly because you're probably not contributing much to society.
jwillborg 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@jwillborg part 1If you are stuck on what is right or wrong, don't blame it on things like that. You got your answer regarding what I wrote, go read it through once again and this time more carefully. I don't live in your sociaty, so thereby I am not obliged to contribute to it. But one thing I know, and that is, what your country has done to economically less fortuned countries, regarding that you can see swedish weapons being used by the soldiers of Lybia
avesta72 10 months ago
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avesta72 10 months ago
0:43 JAJAJAJAA
Hahaha, han är så underbar <3 : D
lattepower 1 year ago
två såsare
Casar1973 1 year ago
Mona blir lite ägd där när Carl Bildt rättar henne om att moderaterna aldrig varit medlem i socialistinternationalen xD
swedisse 1 year ago