Bug Out Bag Winter-SUCCESS-Urban Survival

[OneManArmyAirsoft]

that actully looked cumfertable

[survivalofthekit]

What do you mean bye' shovelling the walks" is that what they call it now?

[vinny3678]

i like urban survaival, should be more videos on you tube about urban survival.

nice video !!

[RagingOatmeal]

where did you get that sleeping bag

[RagingOatmeal]

mec ftw

[MrVoxC]

@ihatethis23 ya i'm in minnesota and i also camp in winter once in a while. Gorgeous winter wonderland with the wildlife.

[smackied765]

I have been thinking about doing this type of trip myself, i may have to record it and put it on the tube for all too see and learn from, appriciate the misery for youtube, keep up the good work

[flipnotize211]

Great job thanks for the 411

[mokyan7]

Hiding your pack in a trash bag sounds like a great way to hide it/conceal it practically in plain sight. I'll be sure to put a couple trash bags in my pack. It is urban or rural camouflage that way...

[xcrazydx]

I know you said you dont have room for a tent, but you can strap it to the outside. My bob weighs 39.6 lbs and I have a tent, and trust me its worth it to carry. no wetness, no wind, and you stay alive. also my tent is strapped to the outside in a dry bag.

[pestilencec11]

Hey just a quick note for staying warm in your sleeping system... Most and I say this in a general sort of way. Most new sleeping systems these days are designed for you to sleep basically full nude... Some skivs and wool socks are usually all you need a "winter" sleeping system. Me personally have tested this with a 3 part system using only a bivy, patrol, and the thicker 3rd part. I didn't use a thermal pad. I used just some natural things around me..Tree branches pine needls things. Great vid

[xiiiblack]

buy solid fuel cells to burn, cause a good amount of heat, kinda smells like fish, they  are small an light.

[mostlymichaelcanada]

@ihatethis23 Sounds interesting - urban camping. I'm just west of you, about half an hour. Let me know if your up for urban camping sometime.

[DIXIECONFEDERATEDAWG]

1 GREAT VIDS... THIS ONE AND THE "FAIL". BUT 2 ?'S... 1 DO THEY LET YALL GET GUNS IN CANADA? OR ITS LIKE THAT YES YOU CAN HAVE A GUN BUT THE PD WONT ISSUE A PERMIT CRAP. 2 ALL THE WOODS IN CANADA YOU COULDNT GET INTO SOME WHERE U COULD MAKE A FIRE?  JUST THOUGHTS. MAYBE AINT WHAT YOU WERE GOIN FOR. THANKS AGAIN

PEACE

[ToddIngram1000]

@DIXIECONFEDERATEDAWG I THINK YOU LEFT THE CAPS LOCK ON

[Canadianpatriot100]

All that kit graces my closet right now...

[goldenscales]

Yes, it's amazing how fresh socks will make you feel warmer instantly! And longjohns - an absolute joy to have on a cold night! I saw the first vid - I'm glad this time everything worked out for you.

[Fadsmashers]

A good trick is to heat up rocks around a fire, then get a secure place to put it in your tent (WARNING!!!- make sure its resting on metal thats resting on wood or it will melt right through lol) The rock will keep your tent warm all night. Its like a sauna really. Your sleeping bag is only as warm as your shelter is endothermic.

[buggymak]

very nice video.it's great to have a bug out bag but it's very usefull to try it in the field for all seasons.you have to try it in extreme situations because when you take your BOB it's for extreme situations.to se it on youtube it's very cool but to be in the field it's a different story.you have to test an try all your gears to see the pro's and con's and reajust and updated if needed.thanx a lot for the tips... see you on the field.

[janken919]

I know you were going 'stealth' so you couldn't have a fire, but I've added a hot water bottle to my winter kit. I can heat up water and place the bottle on my chest to heat my core. Did your woodstove ever turn out?

[DanielSnedden]

Excellent! I watched your first video several months ago. Nothing like trial by cold to find out what works. That could save your life some day. I don't know how to adjust for the cold spots unless you get a bigger bag. and maybe get some of those disposable chemical heaters. I see you tried a Wiggies. I will watch that next. I own a cold weather Wiggies and I am very happy with it. Thanks for the demo!

[johnmonk66]

It might be a luxury, but pharmacies sell little heating pads, some are hand warmers but some larger ones are for your shoes, they last 7 to 9 hours. If you activate a few of them, you could have a few in the bag with you to generate some heat. Or at least keep two on your feet, double socks with heat pad in between two layers, because as long as your feet are warm, you can survive.

[mattyelle1]

@johnmonk66 bring reusable heat pads. Boil the next day for re-use!

[LIKEAWHIRLWIND]

I lived out for 5 years no camping the real deal when I was a kid with no where to go!! May I say always have cover over you and cardboard is a life saver to lay on when it is so cold out you can't hardly breath. Even if you where to lean the pallets against something and stuff cardboard in the forklift fork holes, it'd make all the difference in the world. Just throwing out a few ideas, that kept me alive at -45C. Take it easy, Cheers.

[armouredcockroach]

Well done man next time ohp, (Over head protection) it will improve your situation no end, top notch enjoy the outdoors

be safe

Michael S

[ascorpio09]

dude just ran across u and u have some awesome vids out SUBBED thanks for sharing stuff i like to watch! PEACE..........

[Ghillieinthebush]

Awesome vid brother! turns out your only about 10 minutes away from my area lol never thought id see anyone that close so I had to sub :)

[wilcox1219]

Awesome job bro!!! And with no fire... Congrats

[cyclist01222]

Dude, are there any wooded/wild non urban areas where you live? If you want to survive in a crisis situation you need to get away from people! Hit the woods and learn to live in the wild - this is your best chance unless you are afraid of the woods. Are you? Oh yeah, get a small tent! Believe it or not, it will keep you warmer. Try it. Enjoyed your video!

[Unicron4ever]

Thumbs up for that.

I have no clue how I would manage to survive Canadian winter if I was stuck in the city with no way to enter one of the buildings.

I live in the far-suburbs, so there's plenty of woods to access. I know how to build a wooden shelter (1-2 hour built) or igloo for extreme colds (3-4 hours built, do not use if alone for crumbling and suffocation risks), but survival in the urban jungle is a mystery to me.

[mattamiller]

I like the fact you're out there doing it. I'd suggest you invest in a tarp to give you some real shelter from rain or snow. It doesn't matter how many layers of ponchos you have on your bag if the snow sits on you like that you're going to freeze.

[envirosponsible]

@ihatethis23 Wow, I never thought of that but you're right.

[faliaphotography]

what kind of sleeping bag do you used? (synethetic or down) and what temp is it rated to?

[envirosponsible]

@faliaphotography I used a Recon 4 synthetic bag rated for -10C. It's definitely not that good though. Chad

[DoLpH1983]

minus ten degrees + windchill mate. Wool is really good kit, it keeps you warm even when it gets wet unlike most modern synthetic fibres. Glad to see you are prepared.

[Northemt88]

Very nice, love the videos of you actually testing stuff not just reading labels and reviews like most videos

Subbed

[TheBigpunn421]

could be fake....but great idea

[bishop85gt]

Yeah this is a good idea for a video line. Also what bettter way to test your gear and ideas? Now when you can pack it in if need be and go home rather then later when you can not.

[MrMERCER10]

Would've been funny to have the camera rolling when the garbage man showed up and seen you there...the look would have been priceless

[jamey1976]

Another vital resource for the drifter is the portable electronic device: ipod, mp3 or various small media players or digital cameras. These can be a bums best friend during long, lonely days(interestingly in woodland survival, a person is apt to not need one).. Visit the library to replenish them on their computer. Also, peruse the local classifieds for what's going on in the world. Just being homeless doesnt mean you cant lend yourself to a cause.

[jamey1976]

The conscientious urban squatter gives a wide berth to street people, bums. These people offer a lonely drifter companionship but in turn draw them into a dark world of drug use, fugitives from justice, mentally deranged people, or complicity to crimes they're involved in. Avoid them at all costs. Hint # - keep a spare "nice" outfit, when you must venture into areas of the world that shun or persecute the homeless. Hint # - carry mace at all times. Trouble will find you at times.

[jamey1976]

The upper abandoned reaches represent a place where others can't utilize, ie, spoil. Rooftops represent a varied enviornmetn to take advantage of. There are alot of other ideas to explore. Whatever your shelter situation, you must remain undetectable, by whatever means to that end, lest you may get your head crushed while sleeping. Those who get disability get their full amount while they are reckognized as "homeless". Imagine the money that you could save.

[jamey1976]

Urban survival...useful for me because of the necessities of homelessness (not currently). My method is to maintain upper body strength and low body weight for optimal climbing. I then find an abandoned building away from houses and scale it. The other bums are straddling the ground, vulnerable. I'm considering buying a rope and claw (like ninjas use) to be able to move up and down where there is no available footholds for getting on certain buildings.

[avhousebitch]

hey chad where did you get that poncho liner/ bivy. Im in the same area as you so if its local i will likely be able to get it. thanks

[envirosponsible]

@avhousebitch I bought the liner in Florida when I went last year. I've seen them in Oshawa, but they're way too much.

[GrowlsofTerror]

Very informative. makes me ready to go test out my own bugout bag.

Good work!

[2bidfilmsguy]

are thoes poncho liners water proof

[anyonefindAMERICA]

It is a great service to all that understand this video, sadly there are many who do not. Thanks again. Get your self a hot cup of soup! LOL.

[TheBushnut]

i love urban camping. it's free and close, if you live in a city you can enjoy the outdoors and watch an amazing amount of wild life without driving for hours! the best part is that you can introduce new people to outdoor life and if they're not having fun they can cab home. i frequently camp out in winnipeg winters at -35C and have lots of fun. at that temp a fire is a must and gear that doesn't melt when it's close to the fire. hurrah for wool.

[McBeasty10]

did you get the wool leggings off the internet

[goat20101]

excellent job, Maybe you could possibly have a camera man next time and travel for a day or 2 doing a whole deal not just nightly

[envirosponsible]

@goat20101 Cool idea. I'm going camping for 10-14 days in January and will be capturing lots of the experience. Thanks for commenting.

[HDCYTFAN]

Dude this is an awesome video have'nt seen one this good since roadwarriors 5 minute bug out!

[TODeastex]

I don't know if you are still reading comments or not. These videos seem to be outliving people's interest. But, I was very interested, and thanks. Your real experience is worth it's weight in gold.

I noted that you had cold spots under your hips and whatever points of hard contact you had with the ground (even though you included the thermopad). I saw this on another video. You should practice raking up a pile of leafs, and putting you bag on top. You might even be able to loose the thermopad.

[envirosponsible]

@TODeastex You're absolutely right about increasing the insulation under me. Thanks for sharing.

[ssi1991]

as far as i heard from a friend who is a gebirgsjäger he gave me the tip to take a (military issued) rain poncho with me because you always can use it as an (emergency) tent...and it's lightweight and small 

[merekstorrgaard]

i highly recommend having a newspaper handy. its a lot of paper which can be used for insulation by crumbling it up and stuffing it inbetween layers of clothes, or under your sleeping bag (may help you with that condensation problem). you can also roll it up and use it for various applications, such as funnelling, filtering, and swatting dogs away. and after all that, you may still even be able to read it. cause it can be boring out there. also add a towel. many uses for a towel.

[lonerogue26]

great video, first ive seen like this. keep up the great work

[abetwo4321]

Nice video. I would be reluctant to sleep in some random industrial park. I would have to try it out first in the back yard, then stealth camp at the duty section, after that I would try my luck in a city or county park. I would venture a guess that nobody bothers you in the winter time in the cold and snow.

[rlmarin1968]

If people have to ask what a "Bug Out Bag" is for...you're right...they wouldn't understand the reasoning behind one. I think you are smart to "try out" the contents of your bag...you won't know what works, what doesn't, or what you're missing if you don't do that. set up mine in my back yard now and again and treat garden hose water as "creek water"...so I sterilize it and everything...try to test out as "realistic" as I can. You are a little more real than I am.

[NoMoWires]

Excellent. . Very rare to see a guy go out and do it, to utilize his equipment & now know what works & what doesnt. And to go out in Canadian winter shows resolve. You are the genuine article. People, please take to heart his experiences. Do not just trust a manufacturer is telling the truth. How would you like to be in 20 Degrees below freezing and find that your bag and supplies will not cut it? And no store the next day? Thats what will happen, and you will be stuck freezing nightly

[SuperNobama1]

@NoMoWires When I was a kid I slept out in a winipeg treeline -23C on top of snow ,""" pine tree branches for a thermalrest """ and a kick ass -30c bag and I was warm just slept in a t shirt and ginch\ thermal underware . Looking up at the star was awsome I love winter camping to this day and cant wait till shtf or the partical acc fuckups up xd and we dont have to pay taxes any more....... Get ready peeps 2012 is also almost here !!

[mrsdjsdj]

Nice job. I really like videos of people trying out their gear. That makes you the "Genuine Article" not an Armchair QB. Thanks.

[alanvalentinus]

I love to see people getting out there and Doing stuff with their gear. Glad Im not bugging out to Canada though. hahaha

[shtfprepared]

excellent dude, i live in Qc and am prepping for the same thing. Love both vids, failure/success. Give me a good idea what to expect. We have to consider colder temps though. Last winter we got -30 degrees. Good job. I'll post my results after my winter 2010/11 test.

[wheelori814]

i sure the hell wouldnt stay in a urban area, i would get out of the urban area!

[2bullydogs]

Great video, you learned from the first video and made some adjustments in gear. You might consider a jetboil stove for your kit. Keep up the good work.

[superassassin47]

i no your bag is a maxpedition but whats the name of it because i have the falcon 2

[mrchrstpher]

It's really cool that you test out your bags in urban settings. really good stuff man.

[dreamthinker79]

cold weather gear, is really dependant on where you are, geographicaly, and locally. Living in MN, all i need is some woods, my year round bob, and an extra blanket (3x fleece), and the clothes id be asumed to be wearing in the winter

[virginiac223]

I've been assembling my BOB for the past several weeks. I think I'm off to a good start. I've taken it camping, but this testing you're doing has shown me the next step of preparing. Thanks for this...Just got my Wiggy's :)

[llBassmanll]

This is a great video. I have a different approach for sleeping. Learn to make booby traps! If S.H.T.F., soon after all the shops and grocery stores will probably be raided. In cold weather, find a shop that has been raided and set up some traps and sleep in a storage room or something like that.

[envirosponsible]

@llBassmanll I like it.  Thanks.

[xenomorph856]

@envirosponsible Did you hear that "The Colony" (History survival show) will be coming back in approx. 2 days? It should have some relatively decent urban survival tips.

[teotwawki12]

Like to see somebody actually doing it. Very cool.

[ilikebac0n]

"last time i was testing my survival equipment i went home because it was to cold" LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

[Luccian22]

Dude this is great! Realy testing and proveing your BOB;)

[envirosponsible]

@Luccian22 Thanks.

[carveawoodeneye]

very cool!! like the urban bugout thing!! no one else is making videos like this nicly done!!

[envirosponsible]

@carveawoodeneye Thanks woodeneye.

[ToddIngram1000]

@carveawoodeneye what's a nicly

[evankoeve]

Great video! Thanks for getting out there and testing your gear it is very helpfull.

[serb111]

what is the point of this are you preparing to be homeless or what

[envirosponsible]

@serb111 Good question serb, though if you have to ask you probably wouldn't understand my reason for training.

[ConditionRedDawn]

@envirosponsible LOL great answer enviro. I have tried to explain what you're doing to some people, and their statement is usually "why would he want to do this if he has a house?" "Why prepare for something that isn't going to happen?" Again, great vid

[kaldicuct]

@envirosponsible getting ready in case a "The Colony" or something like that happens. Im basing my kit on native american gear, though im modernizing it. instead of stone or steel tomahawks, a friend is making me one home forged. gonna get a cold steel kukri for the knife. snare wire instead of cordage for snares, canvas tarp instead of hide for a teepee, ive got a list for all sorts of gear if your interested.

[xenomorph856]

@serb111 How is it even possible you came across this video if you had no idea what it was about?

[SavageArms357]

@serb111 Basically, He's preparing for any type of situation that would force him to leave his home, possibly forever.

[MINDWISEMAN]

Like your approach to the subject, stealth camped in -8 snow weather in woodland near where I live (featured on my channel) to try out my kit - camo netting, low profile tunnel tent & camo tarp. It's the challenge and being outdoors besides creating the correct mind set for preparedness. It's you and the elements, love it. Thanks

[envirosponsible]

@MINDWISEMAN I'm watching that video right now. Great channel my friend. Thanks for sharing and I'll be tuning in from now on.

[turnerclean]

Great Vid there Chad,

I liked it. Good camouflage with the garbage bags, very innovative. Next time, try putting yourself in a bit more of a sheltered area or depression. You can string a poncho or ground sheet above for more shelter. Reminder, minus 10 with wind-chill is much colder your setup is more successful than you think it is.

Two ground sheets together make a mil style tent. Do not put snow right on Gore Tex, as it will melt through. Put on top of ground sheet for insulation.

[0122358]

im thinking for my buttpack BOB buying a snugpack bivy with either a softie elite1 (winter/fall) or jungle bag (spring/summer)

[SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

To bad you couldn't build a fire there. That would have been good for the body and the spirit. I noticed that you chose wool rather than polypropaline underware, I was wondering why that was? Nice video.

Cheers,

Kel

[romeoneverdies]

thanks for the vids great tips

a few thoughts i would add (not tested)

-pack snow over the poncho (you sleep under the snow ) snow is a good insulation

-tarp over the trailer (so that there is less wind movements)

-wool blanket

-non synthetic sleeping bag

good job tho at least your out there ! :-( im not

[jeepnicc]

Pretty hardcore test bro!!

[jimifazer]

nice video... 5***** when I was in the army we made igloos for shelter... before we get soma sleep we take off our clothes we put it inside the sleeping bug so when we wake up and dressed up our clothes where worm.... sorry about my english but you get the idea...

[BitFox]

good idea! :)

[RedJellyable]

nice one,good to see people putting the stuff they have to the test.

[CPLBSS88]

Awsome idea with the trash bags! thanks.

[Charlz9mm]

well done. Some good info there. Nothing beats live testing.

5 stars

[gasdorf]

great gear set-up for winter sleep

[envirosponsible]

It`s at least good. Thanks for sharing.

[TheRedHawk123]

Really nice video Chad!

Awesome to see your system at it's peak..

5/5

[envirosponsible]

Getting closer is more like it. I`m digging your videos.

[TheStealthCamper]

Awesome corrections. like the improvements and the mindset. Everything is tweaked and wool clothing is great where you live. God luck on your videos

[envirosponsible]

Thanks Stealth.

[superassassin47]

i want a wiggys bag so much there to damn expensive though

[envirosponsible]

It`s just not fair, I know. They`re so toasty though. They`re also bulkier, which makes me think perhaps I do need a larger backpack. Or maybe a poncho that`s also a shelter that`s also a backpack. Something mulit-functional like that could save a lot of weight. Thanks for weighing in.

[superassassin47]

anyttime but i guess the money u spend can save ur life so i might buy one but its too much for one bag

[1x93cm]

@envirosponsible ppl in the olden days used to have woolen long coats that were jackets as well as blankets

[johnny102marvin]

Congratulations on your success. Your videos really add a lot of insight into my prepping. I am glad I have you to try these things out for real....so that I can learn from your failures and success. By the way, you just taught me a new word:

STEALTH CAMPING. Ha ha ha ha...I've never heard that term used before.

[bigrob911]

Wool is warm. There is a reason that pepole wore wool in the "old" days.

[bwillan]

In the "old" days there were no modern synthetic materials to be had. Wool was all there was.

[ConditionRedDawn]

man I love these vids...keep it up bro

[bassfuryvi]

Nice enough windbreak,,and -9 in that wind was damn cold so fair play staying out..I use a summer weight bag inside a cheap autumn/spring ,for £20 this combo is okay to about -4 with a far lighter wind..but man am I layered up with t shirts and fleeces...nice gear sir!!

[giutoniolo]

Man, that must have been a cold night out there! Great gear too! Nice video Chad! Thank you for posting it, dude!

[haha48]

-9 is nothing try -20 with a windchill... thats cold..

[illogicalmethod]

@haha48

-40 with a windchill.... The -40's is about where F. and C. agree on how cold it is, lol.

[envirosponsible]

Hey Giutoniolo. It's not that cold, it's the humidity in the air and in your breath that makes one chilled to the bones. The humidity and the driving wind. It was a beautiful storm overall though.

[bwillan]

That thermometer is a simple min max and doesn't account for wind chill. So it was -10C for the air temperature and not factoring in the windchill.

Chad is right, the humidity in winter in this area makes the cold rather bone chilling and all the more challenging to overcome.

Great job on the success of winter test of your Bug Out Bag!!

[aaronready1]

and all the advice from people....wonder if they tried it???

[aaronready1]

nice man! way to go for it! i need to do this soon...

[AndrewXAnarchy]

They're no use to your bag. They should've been on you.

[spuddyholly]

Respect for actually getting out there (unlike so many who are seriously expecting their "advice" to be heeded). Excellent length too. Well done.

[Gorntz]

Although you should insulate yourself off the ground, having that wind go under your trailer there probably made it colder. Thanks for sharing that.

[MenagerieRPG]

Great effort! I'm glad it worked out, especially with no shelter. I'd hate to think you'd be forced to sleep in those conditions but nice to know you can manage.

[VermonstersinNJ]

nice vid! 5*****

[SECRETBOL]

Good Idea Not drawing attention to yourself !

[JimboJitsu]

Wow, pretty cool!

Thanks for sharing!

[60odeeman]

5 Stars! Excellent practical demonstration of sleeping in a cold urban situation.

Thanks for sharing

[cbr6864]

wow im glad i live in texas my cold weather gear is a long sleeve shirt.

[TUSENMAUG]

Clever thinking with the trash bags, glad you didn't freeze.

[megasimon999]

Good job! It sounded like you had some wind chill going on too.

What about adding a balaclava then you could cover your face and protect it from the wind.

Also did you have a weapon or some sort handy in case of something happening in the night.

when you fall asleep anywhere theres people its hard to sleep "well" due to your body being in "alert" mode.

But kudos for getting out in the cold!