Toniq TV Mike Gravel

[ToeIn2194]

Gays repulse everyone.They f--- up every atmosphere they go into with twisted subterfuge.Straight females,especially pretty ones beware.They are not your friend.Their sex act is disgusting .They are "failed men." Ew!!!!!!!!!Embarrassing little boy "men!"...afraid to man up and grow up.Failures on every level.LOL...Always catty and disturbingly shallow.

[wanderingjew2008]

Thisss isss Sssparta!! *two finger snaps left and right*

[Whoo69]

If you want real straight talk, don't go to John McCain. Mike Gravel is your man.

[Whoo69]

Exactly! I'm glad he brought up the point about Sparta. All these Republicans and military generals who think gays in the military will somehow "screw everything up" have no clue about history!

[Juanchopepe86]

same thing in Shogun Japan. Samurais used to encourage homosexual relationship apparently for the same purpose.

[danglycrossearring]

i wish mike gravel was young black and charismatic :(

[johncantees]

me too!

[uterfan]

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[NatureLegalized]

thought this was kinda wierd, i mean in the sense that you wouldn't want your (vicious injurious or otherwise) rape rates to soar

[trackman3030]

it doesn't matter if your homosexual or not.. sure maybe homosexuals may be more "horny" (not saying i believe this or not) but it doesn't mean they should be discriminated.. i think that's bullshit, let them live the way they want to, you can't stop true love..

[Xerxes855]

This guy is fucking insane! He's the Ron Paul of the Democratic field, they are both fucking nuts. I give them both credit for sticking by their beliefs with resolve, but both of their political philosophies are nuts.

*Watch a Ron Paul supporter talk about Ron Paul is a savior to the nation in response to this post in 3... 2...

[video2008usa]

You are an idi*ot, really, where is Gravel wrong?

[Xerxes855]

I agree with the Truman analogy, and strongly I support gay marriage and allowing gays to serve openly.

But the Spartan analogy and the argument that training soldiers to be gay (like you can train someone to be gay) is what's nuts about what he said. The military shouldn't encourage sexuality, nor deny someone in because of their sexuality. What matters is if they are a good soldier or not. Sexuality should have nothing to do with it.

[fudgems111]

hail satan

[Xerxes855]

WTF?

[fudgems111]

god bless satan

[baylorbear75]

If that's true that spartans were able train there people to be homosexual then couldn't you be trained to be heterosexual?

Gay people are always claiming their born that way and nothing can change that so doesn't this statement go against that argument?

[video2008usa]

think it's more like prison gay: they're horny

and you combine that with friendship

[mateo1970]

Where are the cries of "homophobia" on this one?

The gay agenda will take publicity anyway and from anyone. Even when it contradicts their dogma.

[Seekster]

Ok if you think about it, if it is possible to train people to be gay then shouldnt it also be possible to train them to be straight? Gravel is a nut but at least he makes the Democratic debates somewhat interesting.

[Seekster]

Ok there are so many things wrong with Gravel's comment. First off as a History major I can tell you that Sparta never trained its men to be gay. Even without getting into historical detail to support this, think about it, All Spartan men went through the same training program, if they were all trained to be gay then they could not reproduce...need I go on.

[kahngskp]

Putz like this human trash is ruinning America's morality. American needs another Great Revival. Repent and come back to the Almighty, Creator, Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, and the Savior, Jesus Christ. Wake up, people before it's too late.

[richards958]

I agree with the previous comment.

[extremewookie]

WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT?! Our BRAVE SOLDIERS don't want to fight for their country? Ah so all 2.2 million American service men and women are homosexuals right? Same with WWII and the civil war right?

[ninchLOsomarichYO]

man, is this guy nuts !!!!!!!1

[warman58]

This takes pandering to a whole new level.

[MattBaumann777]

Is everyone here saying you'd rather have a president that lies to you goes along with whatever the popular opinion is? People do fight better if they care about their team. They're not thinking "okay, I better shot this guy to protect the welfare bums back home." They're thinking of protecting their close friends that are there with them in the line of fire.

[thefartheststars]

Why don't you people actually read?

On that note, the Spartans were the most powerful military force in the world until their demise. Their defeat was brought about by the sacred band of Thebes -- and elite military force of 300. Exclusively homosexual.

[thefartheststars]

Furthermore, the results from the Kinsey Reports have been known for decades. Most people are at least partially bisexual. Love can sometimes transcend orientation. Why orientation must be _either_ a choice _or_ biological is a political game that should be left behind.

[Seekster]

Male bonding and Homosexuality are not one in the same. Two straight guys can have a close brother-like relationship, this does not make them gay. Sparta did not train its soldiers to be gay.

[scrappymcfiesty]

Are you kidding me?? I've never heard of this guy, but he's crazy. And on this whole Sparta deal, last time I checked Sparta doesn't exist anymore, that whole homosexual warrior thing doesn't seem to have worked out that good.

[mateo1970]

This is beyond funny.

Matt Sanchez

Baghdad

[ulickvarange]

It's funny. Gays desperately want scientists to find a "gay gene" so they can justify their immoral and twisted behaviour, yet many (far-left) geneticists don't want to delve into that kind of research because they know they won't find the results they want.

[MattBaumann777]

Immoral to who?  Isn't being judgemental immoral?

[ulickvarange]

Immoral to just about every culture in recorded history, except for possibly the Japanese (and even then, that behavior was limited to a certain class.) And no, being "judgmental" isn't immoral. It merely means you have high standards for people's behavior.

[MattBaumann777]

That's lazy to base your opinions on whatever society holds to be true. It's not "immoral" in Canada where I live. Is there even a need to judge others? I don't really care if they judge me for being myself, and I doubt they care if I judge them for being themselves.

[ulickvarange]

So people should just disregard what others think and engage in mindless hedonism? With that kind of thinking, I assume that you would be fine with your country legalizing pederasty & bestiality, right? Because it's not right to judge others for wanting to have sex with children or animals, right?

[ulickvarange]

I'm not talking about religious standards, Western standards, or American standards. This is something the majority of the world holds true: sex between adult men and women is normal, everything else is frowned upon for good reason.

[MattBaumann777]

I agree that it's not accepted in main stream society. But what is the good reason that homosexual relationships are frowned upon? While I see something wrong with a child molester, why is it wrong for two consenting adults of the same sex?

[ulickvarange]

Ah, but you are now judging child molesters. Don't they have the right to bugger children without discrimination? To get back on track: the more a society tolerates aberrant sexual practices (starting with gay relationships) the end result will be destruction of any kind of morality that society once had.

[ulickvarange]

Look at the Dutch: they legalized gay relationships, then gay marriage, then bestiality, then polygamy, and now they have a political party that wants to legalize pederasty. How long until they eliminate free speech because moral perverts don't want to deal with trying to justify their acts?

[MattBaumann777]

I don't think beastality or pedophilia is okay. But what is wrong with homosexual relationships? Is it because Christianity says it's wrong, or because society says it's wrong?

[RW1911]

That's just disgusting. I bet Gravel just made that bullshit up on the spot. And what about the liberal argument that says people are born gay. If you can train someone to be gay, doesn't that mean it could be a choice?

[tv33athotmail]

Oh lord Mike what the hell!?!?!?

Question... If Michael Savage is such a Goldwater conservative then why does he not support Ron Paul? Ask yourself that and wake up you lunatics!

Search Barry Goldwater jr. Ron paul on youtube!

[HearTheTruth]

Senator Gravel said the Spartans "tained their people to be homosexual..." Does that mean homosexuals can be trained to be hetrosexuals?

[liveleaker]

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Watching this video is proof!

[chaslie45]

So, if the Spartans trained their soldiers to be gay then doesn't that disprove the arguement that people are born that way?

[bobbybagpipes]

I'm with you, BelieveIt1051. This guy is a presidential candidate? You're kidding, right? He was referring to the Sacred Band of Thebes, comprised of 150 homosexual couples. While it is true that they were briefly under Spartan rule, they were not Spartans. After successfully winning independence for Thebes, they were eventually wiped out by Philip's Macedonian army. Mr. Gravel ought to get his facts straight. What a moron!

[divermike]

i almost expected one or the other to get down on their knees to show how much they love each other....this guy and most liberal democruds are SICK!!!!

[ulickvarange]

I remember reading in the Congressional Record a few years back about a plan by a 'gay revolutionary' in Boston on how the movement is going to seduce young boys. I found it again here:

dadi . org / homagnda . htm

Just remove the spaces in between the above address and read the disgusting "manifesto" for yourself.

[kibbledbits]

LOL this guy is a joke. We should encourage homosexuality within the military? Here's your Democratic party people!

[BelieveIt1051]

The Thebans did that and they got slaughtered you stupid moron!

DADT needs to be done away with sure, but the OLD policies need to be put back into place. Sexual orientation and sex do not belong in the military or on the battlefield. Believe it!

[outkid]

The homosexuals oppose don't ask don't tell because they think it is okay to flaunt your sexuality in every ones faces. It doesn't matter what your orientation is; flaunting your sexuality in every ones face is narcissistic. It would be a negative work environment if a straight man had to bunk with a gay man. It would just cause more problems.

[klfarias]

Be careful what you ask for, you may just get it - SCARY:

"Lesbians already have a uterus and recently a lab was able to convert stem cells from a woman into artificial sperm cells so it is only a short matter of time before lesbians are able to have their own children. after that it is a mater of using male stem cells to create artificial egg cells that can be fertilized in a lab and then implanted into a surrogate mother. there are your direct children. is that all your argument hinges on?"

[vdtech543]

your full of shit...

[klfarias]

I don't know who was "gay" in sparta but I highly doubt they were "trained to be homosexual" - WTF is that idiot talking about? Even homosexuals will tell you, you are either gay or you are not, you can't be forced to be that way. The Spartans were a tough bunch, however how many gay men do you know that want to be in the military? not many. His comments are really stupid. What a moron.

[vdtech543]

yep your right on

[bubthegreat1]

Gay people are stupid with regards to the war against terror, although we might as well call it the war against Islamofacists. Do gay people know what islam teaches about gays? If you're gay, you D I E. It's pretty simple. Maybe all the faggots should move to the Middle East and try to have Gay Pride festivals out there

[sportpepr509]

Disgusting

[skrap31]

The best fighters are those of the same sex that do each other in the fox hole? WTF?

This guy must be a democrat.

[rob32909]

fucking loon...

[TheMarketingGroup]

Is this Mike Gravel guy gay ?

[undrseige]

The Nazis encouraged homosexuality amongst themselves too. Gone defeated. The ancient greeks..Gone, thrown into the dustbin of history.

[BigOrangeTitan]

Mike Gravel... SOMEBODY'S FABULOUUUUS!!! Mike's other interests include Judy Garland film festivals and guys named Jack and Ennis. lol You've gotta hand it to Gravel No one else joined the gay pride parade in SF. No even the likes of Hilary Clinton.

[puppydogbreath]

Gravel NOT invited to the LGBT debate hosted by LOGO cable network.

Complain/protest here:

Dana L. Campbell, Member Services Assistant Human Rights Campaign

202.216.1500 (p) 202.216.1505 (f)

LOGO: 212 654 3005. This is an answering machine. Be brief and clear.

The sponsoring organization is called "Human Rights Campaign": 202 628-4160 Toll-Free: 800/777-4723

[brandensc]

Organizations regulating corporations? So, whoever has the most guns will get to call the shots? I know it's mostly that way now, but I'm not sure I want it as official policy. There is no Free Market. Don't capitalize The Big Theoretical Concepts. It. Looks. Stupid. "Organizations" regulating people? This sounds like anarcho-syndicalism, and that is ridiculous. Anarchy isn't centralized enough, no pun intedned, to provide for a society.

[puppydogbreath]

The other candidates adore power, Gravel adores people.

Donate@ gravel2008 . us

[Wolfsheim23]

It doesnt matter if your a life long Democrat. Look up Ron Paul. He crosses all party lines. We've never had a chance to elect a leader like him in over 100 years. He would be like getting the chance to elect a world peace leader like Ghandi. In our lifetime I hope we can someday have such a leader in the Whitehouse. Ron Paul can restore that hope!

[brandensc]

Ron Paul's philosophy is a joke. He speaks against corporatism; and then he speaks against government regulating. But then he talks about regulating corporations. Then he says people should be free to operate as they wish. You either have restrictions on corporations continuosly, or they will come back. And if you stop people from forming corporations, that is massive regulation.

[Wolfsheim23]

Hes a joke to you, because your an ignorant sod whos too lazy to look up anything. He doesnt speak about regulating corporations he speaks about Organizations regulating Corporations, Unions, learn how the Free Market works. Corporatism is totally different and Evil. Its what top tier candidates of both parties engage in daily and why you only see them in any MSM. They are corporatist prostitutes.

[brandensc]

Don't get me completely wrong. I think gay sex is fine. I like gay sex. I know a couple of pinoy bottoms that I ... well, I won't give details here, but rest assured, I show them good ol' fashioned American Man-power in the 21st century. But I'm not going to marry one of them. I'm not going to pervert the Order of Things to such a degree to have a clone of one of us made into a baby (which some couples have wanted to do). Nor play mix 'n' match with our DNA. You. Are. Selfish.

[brandensc]

Well, now you've met an atheist that sees strong parallels between homosexuality and bestiality. And, excuse me, but let's leave artificial insemination for the cows (or whatever the specific procedures may be called). Maybe I'm just a hopeless romantic, but making love to make a child doesn't seem like the kind of thing this society needs to be trying to get around.

[viktorj85]

ya with over population leaving this earth with food shortages in the next few centuries seems like it is something we need try and get around. although I agree with you homosexuality borderlines beastiality.

[brandensc]

OK. You should use the holes that evolved to be used by your penis. And I'm an atheist. Trying to turn silly bible quotes on me won't help your argument. AND YOU MOST DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX. Even if you raise kids as a family unit, you still aren't actually producing them. Or are one of you going to evolve a uterus?

[ambientdiscord]

lesbians already have a uterus and recently a lab was able to convert stem cells from a woman into artificial sperm cells so it is only a short matter of time before lesbians are able to have their own children. after that it is a mater of using male stem cells to create artificial egg cells that can be fertilized in a lab and then implanted into a surrogate mother. there are your direct children. is that all your argument hinges on?

[ambientdiscord]

and PS: the only reason i brought the silly bible quote into it is because bible bangers are the only ones ive ever heard make a connection between homosexuality and bestiality... until now.

[brandensc]

There is a lot of love, excluding homo sex. Homo sex isn't per se love, it's sex. If I have sex with a cow, give it kisses, make it moan, am I adding to the love in the world? You may say yes. I say I would add MORE love to the world if I used the holes my penis is designed to use.

[ambientdiscord]

no holes were designed for your penis. it is a result of evolutionary functionality. i never said anything about homo sex, that happens anyway and isnt stopping. let people get married to promote love over lust and stop treating them like 2nd class citizens. bestiality has nothing to do with this. just because the bible lists bestiality directly under Leviticus 18:22 doesnt mean they have anything to do with reality. it is argued that these passages refer to rituals relating to the god Baal.

[brandensc]

Why do all Democrats act like they want to be in bed with Homosexuals? Can't they see how bad it looks to the Heterosexuals that actually birth and raise the world's popluation?

[ambientdiscord]

there are plenty of heteros that are in favor and support of gay marriage. the ones against it just like to make a spectacle of themselves so it seems like there is a strong opposition!

quote mike gravel: "what this world needs is alot more love!"

[vinnie97]

"spectacle of themselves" Have you been to any gay pride parades recently, much less witnessed any show their "pride" in a public place?!  They wrote the book on spectacle.

[brandensc]

Another homosexual-loving Democrat!

[berliita]

Gee whiz, the dude rocks! He just keeps topping himself.

[brandensc]

I didn't think presidential candidates were allowed to thoroughly reference history? Isn't he supposed to waffle around, pretend to subscribe absolutely to certain superstitions, and then collect the checks?

[heckubus4]

He's the most brutally honest candidate I've ever seen. I may not agree with him on every issue, but at least I know where he stands. He had my vote the minute he mentioned in the debates that the military industrial complex owns and operates our country and its culture. Its the sad truth, and its what Iraq is all about.

[aohus]

this guy is a piece of shit. McCain '08

[davidbdr]

The same McCain who let the Bush campaign lie and humiliate him and then turn around and kiss Bush's ass? That McCain right? You are laughable and not even worthy of consideration.

[aohus]

i wouldnt want you to hold office. you'd definitely be a divider not a uniter

[ladonite]

I was being sarcastic. I take it you weren't.

[ladonite]

Oh no, not homosexuality!

[floppier]

What rubbish!

[AddieRementer]

YES!!

[AddieRementer]

why did you change your mind?

[Coolman25]

rofl

[karoauk]

support him, vote for him, make democracy stronger

[temujin1234]

Every major candidate, Democrat or Republican, will erode American freedom if elected, and I don't think that's a coincidence.

[AddieRementer]

TYTY