what kind of Strat is this? Is this the one Edge uses to play this song live? I've been strat hunting lately and I'm not quite sure which Strat Edge uses for Streets. Thanks
This is a 2003 Custom Shop Strat (1960s version). But I have since replaced the neck to a Custom Shop maple neck and Kinman pups. See Part A1 for my updated cover. Edge uses a late '70s strat.
Any Strat is generally ok. Pickups are important. Some are too "thin" or "bright." I recommend the Kinmans (although they are expensive). The Fender '69s are very good also I'm told. Join U2_Guitar_Tutorials group on Google groups and post what you have and ask for suggestions.
pls help me. I tried this with delay, but it does not sound that well. Can you tell me what the proper altitude is? My amplifier is not a really expensive one but maybe it will work. There are no numbers on it (milli sec and what more this guy told about). If someone can help me I would be very glad:)
Watch my three part delay tutorial. Watch all of the Streets tutorial, not just this one. First make sure you are playing at the right tempo. You are asking a very broad question that is not easy to answer here. Join our group on Google Groups: U2_Guitar_Tutorials
Very old tutorial, I'm going to do an update. Actually, the guitar is in tune, but the intonation is off (in tune on the open string, but not the octave at the 12th fret). Sorry!
@dimefu34 It can be either, but The Edge uses an Electro Harmonix Memory Man which if i recall is Analogue, but something like a Boss DD3 or DD7 would do just as good
This is by far the most detailed and accurate tutorial I've seen so far. Thank you very much. Excellent. I've just bought a Fender VM Deluxe with built in delay and getting a pretty similar tone and effect to this. Nice tutorial.
You are probably right. I think it was officially in tune, but the intonation was off, so it was slightly off high up the neck. You may be right. It's an old tutorial that I need to redo someday.
Michael are you using Kinman Pickups, and if so what model? Contemplating which model to buy uncertain on whether or not to buy Woodstock or MK-III pickups to get some nice quack and some nice bright, strong tones.
I have the Woodstocks and love them. Very slightly hotter than my '73 Fender vintage pups. Don't get the Plus bridge, just the regular set. I also recommend the harness.
Adjust to your liking. You are playing over the notes so the first few repeats are the most important; however, you are correct, I believe Edge uses more repeats on this than other songs. The BBC interview with Edge seems to have 6 or 7.
Thanks for the quick response! I agree about the drummer following, have not figured out if I can tap a dotted 8th in my vox tonelab le on the fly. The modulated delay seems to sound pretty good. Also, does the feedback setting matter much or is it more preference as long as it isn't too many repeats?
@U2GuitarTutorials hi i have a pretty basic delay pedal its called and ibanez for the range ti doesnt let you go to specific mount it just has 30-160 120-650 and 480-2600 ms is thier a specific delay peadl that i need?
Sorry, is what cheap? The effects unit? It's an Axe-Fx Ultra by Fractal Audio. If that' what you mean, then, nope, actually it's pretty expensive. Almost $2k. It's probably the most advanced digital effects processor on the market.
I am trying to get this delay thing and found a delay/bpm calculator that seems to help if I know the bpm of a song. If a song is the 127 bpm and I set it at 354ms, when I play it will repeat in a dotted 8th right? Seems to sound right. Same for the other example below right? Thanks, advice welcome.
Yes, you got it. At a certain BPM, the type of note dictates the speed. This way if your band plays at a different BPM then you can adjust accordingly. Keep in mind that if you set up your delays times, then the drummer needs to stay on the agreed beat.
It's harder for a guitarist to change all his delay times at the last second, so the drummer should follow the guitarist. Story goes that Edge foot stomping comes from the early days before they had in ear monitors. Larry needed to be on the right BPM to make sure Edge's delay times worked.
Me again!! Sorry. I bought a vox head and 4/12 cabinet. It just has the tap delay. Do you think the delay could be set to what you are doing? You have it dead on man. I kinda learned a diff version from that questpoet guy. It's off a little. Someone would know the tune but yours is dead on. Thank you for your help bud.
You're welcome. You mean the tap delay is built into your Vox head? Not sure if it will work or not. Watch the tutorials to get delay settings. It's a dotted 8th note delay. Better to have a modulated delay pedal like the Boss DD-20.
This is one of my old tutorials. You may be right. Or what happened is that the guitar was in tune, but the intonation was off (out of tune when played on the higher frets).
Thanks. I actually had some time over the past few days since my last posting to you and figured that out myself. I was holding the pick perp in the traditional way and not really brushing the strings the way you need to to pick individual notes. Does he (The Edge)strum chords with that end also? I've tried that and it can feel/sound a little clumsy. Is that just part of the learning curve too?
Question for anyone who will help... When you play these songs with the Herdim pcik, do you use the rounded long side or the rounded corner? I find that my strings almost get caught on the edges... can anyone offer a tip??? Thanks!
Thanks, I've been using it the same way. I find that the pick will grab the thinner strings and cause a snapping. Is there a technique that I am missing or did i get a bum set of picks? Thanks again.
I know what you mean. I had a nylon pick that would get caught on the high strings. The grooves in the pick weren't smooth enough. I use Jim Dunlop nylon picks now and those work fine.
thank you so much...i have been waiting for something exactly like this...perfect explainations....if you ever decide to put your lessons on dvd I would buy !
That's not necessarily true. It varies depending on the show. In general, yes, U2 has tuned down to make it easier for Bono's vocals, but not all songs are tuned down. The studio version of Streets on Joshua Tree and the versionon the Live in Chicago Vertigo tour DVD are both in stanard tuning. Slane DVD version is tuned down to Eb. You have to listen to the version you want and tune to it appropriately.
I used the TC2290 and the amp models in my Axe-Fx Ultra (with some reverb also). There is no independent chorus in Streets. Just modulated delay which is a delay with a chorus effect within the repeats. Almost all of Edge's delays are modulated. You don't need to use the TC2290. Boss DD-20 also has a great modulated delay, as does the TC DTwo. You want the depth up high but not so high that it gets too "warbly." I set the rate at about 2.8hz (which is in line with the tempo).
I didn't use a compressor, but you can experiment to your liking. Yes, had some reverb at the end of my signal path. In this video, no other delay except for the dotted 8th if I recall correctly. See Part 7 and 8 for my updated Streets tone. Only one delay (dotted 8th) in those videos for sure. The rest is the amp settings to get the amp just on the edge of breaking into a slight drive.
Hi, it could have been in normal tuning, but I believe I was tuned in Eb (one half step down). You should be able to tell by tuning your guitar in normal tuning and then compare a couple notes.
mmmm i can't understand why the first string sounds like that. What kind of tuning did you use?
CEIVE4EVER 3 weeks ago
@CEIVE4EVER
Probably in Eb. U2 tunes down 1/2 step most live songs.
U2GuitarTutorials 3 weeks ago
Why is everyone that covers this wearing a navy shirt?
astralmoses 1 month ago
what kind of Strat is this? Is this the one Edge uses to play this song live? I've been strat hunting lately and I'm not quite sure which Strat Edge uses for Streets. Thanks
helegaran 5 months ago
@helegaran
This is a 2003 Custom Shop Strat (1960s version). But I have since replaced the neck to a Custom Shop maple neck and Kinman pups. See Part A1 for my updated cover. Edge uses a late '70s strat.
U2GuitarTutorials 5 months ago
@U2GuitarTutorials Would any American strat sound good for this song and other Strat based U2 songs? For example, a highway one strat?
helegaran 5 months ago
@helegaran
Any Strat is generally ok. Pickups are important. Some are too "thin" or "bright." I recommend the Kinmans (although they are expensive). The Fender '69s are very good also I'm told. Join U2_Guitar_Tutorials group on Google groups and post what you have and ask for suggestions.
U2GuitarTutorials 5 months ago
pls help me. I tried this with delay, but it does not sound that well. Can you tell me what the proper altitude is? My amplifier is not a really expensive one but maybe it will work. There are no numbers on it (milli sec and what more this guy told about). If someone can help me I would be very glad:)
elisdewaard1 7 months ago
@elisdewaard1:
Watch my three part delay tutorial. Watch all of the Streets tutorial, not just this one. First make sure you are playing at the right tempo. You are asking a very broad question that is not easy to answer here. Join our group on Google Groups: U2_Guitar_Tutorials
U2GuitarTutorials 7 months ago
Haha, I love how you say "There we go!" Exactly what I was thinking, haha.
beabercj 11 months ago
Hi. I was wondering what delay unit you used for the video. Thank you!
msmusic4evr 11 months ago
@msmusic4evr: Hi, it's an old video. I'm going to update this series soon. But it was the delay in the Axe-Fx by Fractal Audio.
U2GuitarTutorials 11 months ago
G-string is out of tune... sorry but it annoys me
96dtodd 1 year ago
@96dtodd:
Very old tutorial, I'm going to do an update. Actually, the guitar is in tune, but the intonation is off (in tune on the open string, but not the octave at the 12th fret). Sorry!
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
love this sound can i do this with say! a vox time machine. looking to get a delay pedal thats not to expensive any suggestions
greatvalue7 1 year ago
@greatvalue7: No idea regarding the time machine. Try the Boss DD-20. It's very good for U2 stuff.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
can you get that sound with an analog delay or does it need to be digital?
dimefu34 1 year ago
@dimefu34 It can be either, but The Edge uses an Electro Harmonix Memory Man which if i recall is Analogue, but something like a Boss DD3 or DD7 would do just as good
HitmanJenkins1 1 year ago
This is by far the most detailed and accurate tutorial I've seen so far. Thank you very much. Excellent. I've just bought a Fender VM Deluxe with built in delay and getting a pretty similar tone and effect to this. Nice tutorial.
jamesdebs21170 1 year ago
please tell me your delay setting for this song
rolando0572 1 year ago
@rolando0572:
I think I provide it in one of the tutorials. It's a dotted 8th note delay at 127 BPM (beats per minute) which equals 354ms.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
No offense, but is the guitar in tune?
davec3487 1 year ago 2
@davec3487:
You are probably right. I think it was officially in tune, but the intonation was off, so it was slightly off high up the neck. You may be right. It's an old tutorial that I need to redo someday.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
Michael are you using Kinman Pickups, and if so what model? Contemplating which model to buy uncertain on whether or not to buy Woodstock or MK-III pickups to get some nice quack and some nice bright, strong tones.
Wiredamp95 1 year ago
I have the Woodstocks and love them. Very slightly hotter than my '73 Fender vintage pups. Don't get the Plus bridge, just the regular set. I also recommend the harness.
Michael
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
you want 7 or 8 repeats
RT101894 1 year ago
Adjust to your liking. You are playing over the notes so the first few repeats are the most important; however, you are correct, I believe Edge uses more repeats on this than other songs. The BBC interview with Edge seems to have 6 or 7.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
DAmn, your good m8 !!
bertbilnaat14 1 year ago
Thanks for the quick response! I agree about the drummer following, have not figured out if I can tap a dotted 8th in my vox tonelab le on the fly. The modulated delay seems to sound pretty good. Also, does the feedback setting matter much or is it more preference as long as it isn't too many repeats?
fishmank27 2 years ago
I don't think it matters much. I use 5 or 6, but 3 or 4 is just fine. You are picking on top of it and there are few long pauses.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
@U2GuitarTutorials hi i have a pretty basic delay pedal its called and ibanez for the range ti doesnt let you go to specific mount it just has 30-160 120-650 and 480-2600 ms is thier a specific delay peadl that i need?
ishaan719 1 year ago
Try a Boss DD-20. Great modulated delay for U2 songs.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
@U2GuitarTutorials is that cheap or does that come with like an effect pedals or its its single thing by it self
ishaan719 1 year ago
Sorry, is what cheap? The effects unit? It's an Axe-Fx Ultra by Fractal Audio. If that' what you mean, then, nope, actually it's pretty expensive. Almost $2k. It's probably the most advanced digital effects processor on the market.
U2GuitarTutorials 1 year ago
I am trying to get this delay thing and found a delay/bpm calculator that seems to help if I know the bpm of a song. If a song is the 127 bpm and I set it at 354ms, when I play it will repeat in a dotted 8th right? Seems to sound right. Same for the other example below right? Thanks, advice welcome.
354ms=127bpm
441ms=102 bpm
fishmank27 2 years ago
Yes, you got it. At a certain BPM, the type of note dictates the speed. This way if your band plays at a different BPM then you can adjust accordingly. Keep in mind that if you set up your delays times, then the drummer needs to stay on the agreed beat.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
It's harder for a guitarist to change all his delay times at the last second, so the drummer should follow the guitarist. Story goes that Edge foot stomping comes from the early days before they had in ear monitors. Larry needed to be on the right BPM to make sure Edge's delay times worked.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
crap i need a delay pedal for this! my delay on my amp wont work!
nwilson59 2 years ago
Depends what you are after. You definitely want a modulated delay for this song. Also Strat in quack position (bridge and middle pups).
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U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
Me again!! Sorry. I bought a vox head and 4/12 cabinet. It just has the tap delay. Do you think the delay could be set to what you are doing? You have it dead on man. I kinda learned a diff version from that questpoet guy. It's off a little. Someone would know the tune but yours is dead on. Thank you for your help bud.
vmaxman88 2 years ago
You're welcome. You mean the tap delay is built into your Vox head? Not sure if it will work or not. Watch the tutorials to get delay settings. It's a dotted 8th note delay. Better to have a modulated delay pedal like the Boss DD-20.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
1. I love ur strat
2. love the tone
and 3. great vid 5 stars!!!!!!
1958GIBSONXPLORER 2 years ago
what delay pedal do you use?
Duckcedes 2 years ago
I use Fractal Audio's Axe-Fx Ultra digital guitar processor.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
g string out of tune?
Morethanl1f3 2 years ago
This is one of my old tutorials. You may be right. Or what happened is that the guitar was in tune, but the intonation was off (out of tune when played on the higher frets).
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
i can get it with a dd5 AND compression, with out the compresor it doesnt work. my favourite riff of all time
strabbs1 2 years ago
One quick question- Is your guitar flat tuning or normal tuning or just a different kind of tuning?
XenSmithy 2 years ago
Thanks. I actually had some time over the past few days since my last posting to you and figured that out myself. I was holding the pick perp in the traditional way and not really brushing the strings the way you need to to pick individual notes. Does he (The Edge)strum chords with that end also? I've tried that and it can feel/sound a little clumsy. Is that just part of the learning curve too?
wpaone 3 years ago
Question for anyone who will help... When you play these songs with the Herdim pcik, do you use the rounded long side or the rounded corner? I find that my strings almost get caught on the edges... can anyone offer a tip??? Thanks!
wpaone 3 years ago
I use the side of the pick toward the end or in other words one of the big corners, not the big flat end or the pointed end.
Michael
U2GuitarTutorials 3 years ago
Thanks, I've been using it the same way. I find that the pick will grab the thinner strings and cause a snapping. Is there a technique that I am missing or did i get a bum set of picks? Thanks again.
wpaone 3 years ago
Not sure what you mean. Don't play with the pick perfectly perpendicular. Make sure you have some angle, otherwise it will get caught easily.
U2GuitarTutorials 3 years ago
I know what you mean. I had a nylon pick that would get caught on the high strings. The grooves in the pick weren't smooth enough. I use Jim Dunlop nylon picks now and those work fine.
cajunjesse 2 years ago
thank you so much...i have been waiting for something exactly like this...perfect explainations....if you ever decide to put your lessons on dvd I would buy !
mrdavidn3 3 years ago
sounds great...thx!!
99voltsdotcom 3 years ago
Thx, I'm not surprised. I have to take this guitar in to be set up. Having trouble with pegs and sticking.
U2GuitarTutorials 3 years ago
nice but your G string is sharp
subinbar 3 years ago
That's not necessarily true. It varies depending on the show. In general, yes, U2 has tuned down to make it easier for Bono's vocals, but not all songs are tuned down. The studio version of Streets on Joshua Tree and the versionon the Live in Chicago Vertigo tour DVD are both in stanard tuning. Slane DVD version is tuned down to Eb. You have to listen to the version you want and tune to it appropriately.
U2GuitarTutorials 3 years ago
oh ok, thanks.
LinkinParkPRSCE24me 3 years ago
hi, were is the chorus and delay coming from? like wat pedals and amp are you using to get that sound out of
?
LinkinParkPRSCE24me 3 years ago
I used the TC2290 and the amp models in my Axe-Fx Ultra (with some reverb also). There is no independent chorus in Streets. Just modulated delay which is a delay with a chorus effect within the repeats. Almost all of Edge's delays are modulated. You don't need to use the TC2290. Boss DD-20 also has a great modulated delay, as does the TC DTwo. You want the depth up high but not so high that it gets too "warbly." I set the rate at about 2.8hz (which is in line with the tempo).
U2GuitarTutorials 3 years ago
ok. so in fact: dotted eight delay (127bmp), an other delay (1/16dot ?), a bit of reverb... right? :) compressor?
giovannibrunoro 2 years ago
I didn't use a compressor, but you can experiment to your liking. Yes, had some reverb at the end of my signal path. In this video, no other delay except for the dotted 8th if I recall correctly. See Part 7 and 8 for my updated Streets tone. Only one delay (dotted 8th) in those videos for sure. The rest is the amp settings to get the amp just on the edge of breaking into a slight drive.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago
Hi, it could have been in normal tuning, but I believe I was tuned in Eb (one half step down). You should be able to tell by tuning your guitar in normal tuning and then compare a couple notes.
U2GuitarTutorials 2 years ago