You can get excellent information by even treating terrorists intelligently and professionally. They are not aliens from Mars. You don't have to drown someone for information. Only the unintelligent torture.
It is a known fact that people who do not believe in G-d: a) hate Jews and Christians, and related thereto, b) love Islam because that pseudo-"religious," murderous, genocidal, misogynistic, intolerant, totalitarian, theo-ideological death cult that worships a murdering pedophile likewise hates Jews and Christians. The Left (as exemplified by that Facebook twit) are modern-day techno-pagans. Conversely, people with a strong belief in G-d are not that likely to be ranting leftists like that punk.
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you lowlife. YOU ARE NOT THE ONE TO JUDGE ANYBODY, YOU UGLY, SNOT-NOSED PANSY WHO THINKS HE KNOWS IT ALL BECAUSE HE WENT TO SOME FAR-LEFT UNIVERSITY THAT PROMOTES EVERY POLITICALLY CORRECT DOGMA THERE IS. GET OFF THIS BOARD AND GO PEDDLE YOUR JIHAD-PROMOTING CRAP AT DAILY KOS OR PUFFHO. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S FINISHED HERE, YOU 20-YEAR-OLD NOBODY.
@Facebook289 - Let's just say I've been around longer than a callow twerp like you. And to quote a famous statesman: "Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
@wmbrown6 in other words any man who disagrees with your idiotic perspectives is a moron? great we have einstein over here. Except without the brains to back it up
@Facebook289 - To you, anyone who disagrees with YOUR cowardice, YOUR appeasement, YOUR fifth-column sedition, YOUR sympathies with radical Islam and YOUR hatred of Jews and Christians, is a "moron" and an "idiot." YOU ARE THE ONE WITHOUT BRAINS, YOU PUNK. YOU SWALLOW WITHOUT QUESTION THE LEFTIST PROPAGANDA. You evidently AGREE with honor killings and cutting off people's limbs for various infractions.
@wmbrown6 wait and where did you get this crap from? What statement did I ever make about hatred of Jews and Christians? Your entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. Get your story straight before you make such wild accusations idiot
@Facebook289 - You have spewed anti-Christian hatred by your comments, don't give me that nonsense. YOU are the one who thinks they're entitled to their own facts.
@wmbrown6 in other words you want me 2 search for something you cant find your damn self. You expect me to make your case for you? Please what a loser.
@Facebook289 - This shows that you are lazy on top of it all. YOU are the loser BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO LOOK FOR YOUR OWN QUOTES. You started this whole mess by your anti-Americanism.
@wmbrown6 no your the moron. because if your going to make an accusation the least you can do is back it up by at least showing what I said. That means its incumbent upon the accuser to do the research not the accused. Or did you forget that part of the rule. Burden of Proof is on the Accuser...Did you forget about that shit?
@Facebook289 - Shut up, punk. A radical, smug, condescending ideologue like you who thinks he knows it all because he went to some leftist university where he was indoctrinated by an America-hating, pot-smoking leftist professor, and therefore thinks he's better than everyone else, has no business setting terms of any debate. To you, ANYBODY who does not agree with the leftist agenda is a "moron." On top of your having trouble with spelling, evidently. I will not hold your putrid, diseased hand.
@wmbrown6 haha you still haven't produced any evidence that I'm somehow anti-Semitic or Anti-Christian. Its horrible to see you lose in an argument like this because I thought I would have a worthy adversary but Its funny whipping your ass like this. By the way I don't think I know it all. I just know I know more than you. That is quite transparent to anyone who has paid attention to our arguments. And just listening to you talk
@Facebook289 - That's the problem. You THINK you know more than anyone else, because you went to some leftist college and were indoctrinated with all the politically correct, namby-pamby platitudes and talking points. A WEAKLING LIKE YOU WOULD GET YOUR TUCHIS HANDED ON A PLATTER by one of the Islamofascists. You didn't "whip" ANYBODY but your own shadow. Go peddle your crap at the HuffPo or Daily Kos and stop wasting your time proselytizing here. You are clearly in the ideological minority.
@Facebook289 - It's skinny, pimply-faced pothead weaklings like you that are bringing this country to the brink. You are clearly among the mere 20% who identify as liberal-left. 42% identify as conservative, and 35% as centrist-moderate. That would make 77% as center-right.
@wmbrown6 Listen I don't care about the damn polls buddy. And even if that were correct what makes you think I'm liberal or conservative? If following the rule of law and adjudicating cases based on facts and evidence is liberal then fine I am liberal. Unlike you and others I don't just roll where the wind blows just because its popular. But your one of those blind sheep who follows and does not lead its pathetic
You don't go by ANY facts, you are a total ideologue trying to push an agenda. And you should talk about sheep - the majority of them are the ones who mindlessly supported Obama in '08 and fell hook, line and sinker for his "Yes We Can" and "Hope and Change" blarney. In fact, the Democrat Party is the party of sheeple. As for the GOP, there is reason they're called "Democrat Lite." But it's the Left who cares more about the "rights" of Islamo-terrorists than about the West's survival.
@wmbrown6 first of all you don't know who i voted for jackass...and even if I did vote for Obama its my right moron...You're just a reactionary who wants to take us back to the days of Jim Crow when the KKK ruled the streets..
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you punk. A loser like YOU has no business judging who's the loser, you lowlife. I go by what's right. You go by what's politically correct.
@wmbrown6 no politically correct would say I respect your opinion even though I disagree with you. The truth is I don't respect your opinion because you conjure up a bunch of crap and don't put together an intelligent response to counter my arguments. I don't condemn you because I disagree with you. I condemn you because your an imbecile
@Facebook289 - This shows your contempt of anyone who disagrees with your dogmas. To you, ANYONE who stands for basic American values (REAL values, not this mishmash the Left keeps regurgitating) is an "imbecile." The demonization of those who oppose the Ground Zero mosque and slander of them as "bigots" - therefore evidencing their accusers as supporters of Islamic supremacism - is clear proof of this.
@Facebook289 - Evidently, to you, ANYBODY who's a proud American is a "bigot," because you are a "One World" internationalist traitor who is at one with this "post-American" agenda pushed by George Soros and the Left. You have nothing substantive to debate anyone on, so you use such epithets to try to shut down ANY debate on anything. This is why arrogant, smug coastal elitists like you are HATED by middle America.
@wmbrown6 GET OVER YOURSELF YOU STUPID BITCH...Freedom of Religion. End of story. They not only have every right to do it, there is nothing you can do about it. What so when Catholics and Christians start bombing abortion clinics should we ban them from implementing churches where the clinics were bombed? Its asinine and a bunch of Islamophobia thats masquerading as "sensitivity". There are peep shows and pornshops there at Ground Zero. As well as a Holocaust Museum and a Greek Catholic church
@Facebook289 - It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with "freedom of religion." This is a DELIBERATE thumb in the eye to the families of victims of 9/11. There are 100 mosques in New York City alone. And the hatemongering imam and his wife have REJECTED any and all calls to move his little project elsewhere in the city. No, you support a de facto Islamic victory OVER America.
@wmbrown6 wow, hes so radical that George Bush hired him at the State Department to go around the world to show what the world is like for Muslims in America thats how bad he is. That shows how little you know
The Bush family are no conservatives whatsoever. In fact, they have more in common with the Rockefeller RINO establishment than true conservatism. Just remember that Bush 'Dubya' referred to Islam as a 'religion of peace' - plus his allowing a flood of Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa during his Presidency - which made his so-called "War on Terror" ring hollow. But Obama is many times worse - totally supporting Muslim interests over those of this country.
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, if this were TRULY about "freedom of religion," then there would be a church or synagogue built in Saudi Arabia. Within a few hundred yards of where Muslims make their "hajj" to Mecca. Besides, Muslims throughout history have built mosques in every place where they engaged victorious against "infidels" in such places as: the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, the Cordoba mosque in Spain, and the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.
@Facebook289 - Let me also warn you that that little Greek Catholic church near Ground Zero has been TIED UP IN RED TAPE in their quest to rebuild their church, in essence denied the right to rebuild - while Islamofascists have been given the fast track and outright preferential treatment in their monument to Islamofascists' war on America. Would you support a monument to Japanese kamikaze pilots near Pearl Harbor?
@Facebook289 - Shut up. To you, anyone who does not fall for the Muslim Brotherhood's stealth jihad (which is what this claim of "freedom of religion" viz this proposed mosque near Ground Zero really is) is "stupid." Many Americans, on the contrary, have been given a crash course about the true agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood and their alphabet-soup front groups (CAIR, MAS, MPAC etc.) which is TO IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON AMERICA AND THE WEST. You are PRO-SHARIA and PRO-JIHAD. Period, end of story.
@wmbrown6 first of all i dont subscribe to any faith so don't go assuming about shit you have no idea about. second of all George Bush actually was a social conservative. He just wasn't a fiscal conservative which is why this country is in a huge financial ditch its in now! As far as the religion of Islam, you ought to actually talk to someone who's read the Quran instead of picking all the bad apples out of the tree because any moron can do that shit. By the way if you want this country
Just shut up with your condescending advice. Many moderate Muslims ALSO oppose this proposed Ground Zero mosque, and have opined - as the editor of al-Arabiya has - that it would indeed be a monument to Islamo-terrorists and to al Qaeda. The funding for this is largely coming from Saudi Arabia which funds radical Wahhabi mosques that preach jihad around the world. Imam Rauf and his wife ARE RADICAL MUSLIMS THAT FAVOR FORCING SHARIA LAW DOWN ALL OUR THROATS. Get that through your thick head.
@wmbrown6 oh wait now you're trying to pull the Moderate Muslim card even though you despise Muslims? You can't have it both ways idiot. You can't say that you hate them and then try to use them when it serves your benefit. And there is no evidence that he even supports Sharia so stop spouting out that garbage
@Facebook289 - It is the RADICAL MUSLIMS who want to KILL ALL NON-MUSLIM "INFIDELS" AND ENSLAVE US ALL UNDER SHARIA LAW who are hated here. AND FOR GOOD REASON. YOUR SYMPATHIES FOR 19 HIJACKERS - 15 OF WHOM WERE SAUDI NATIONALS - WHO MURDERED 3,000 ON 9/11, ARE TANTAMOUNT TO SYMPATHIZING WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII, OR WITH THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE AFTER PEARL HARBOR. Your contempt for the American people borders on DISGUSTING and SICKENING.
@wmbrown6 are absolutely laughable. And don't use a tragedy as an excuse to violate the rights of 7 million Americans just because you don't like them. Like I said go somewhere with that crap
@Facebook289 - Shut up, punk. You have no right to dictate to anybody how to live their lives. You are completely and totally on the wrong side of history, and have taken the side of totalitarianism and barbarity by default. In Islam there are only TWO choices - convert or die.
@Facebook289 - Again, to you, ANYBODY who doesn't fall for this politically correct narrative that is being peddled by the leftist, Saudi-financed, jihad-sympathizing media is an "idiot." I actually KNOW world history. Whereas you only know the leftist revisionism that trashes Christianity and whitewashes Islam. Again, go somewhere else to peddle your garbage. You just want everyone TO "THINK" EXACTLY LIKE YOU DO. That is called PROSELYTIZING.
@wmbrown6 Oh really did you know that Christians burned people at the stake because people refused to convert or comply with their so called faith? How about the fact that many Christians persecuted Jews because somehow they were responsible for having Jesus executed? Listen this is not to trash Christianity, I'm doing this to point out the fact that there are times when religions will be run amok. I hate religion for that but I don't condemn those religions because of historical tragedy. I know
@Facebook289 - This is typical of morally equivalent leftist quislings trying to justify their bending over backwards to radical Muslims who seek to impose Sharia law on everybody - and to justify their hatred of Christianity. And yes, people like you ARE quislings. Your contempt for the American people and grossly callous insensitivity to those who RIGHTLY see a desecration of hallowed ground taking place is utterly deplorable.
@wmbrown6 Again like I said all religions have those type of verses if you actually read the text you imbecile. I bet you don't even know what a quisling is. haha which is very comical...The key word you used is Radical Islam! so enough of this moronic castigation on the Islamic religion when you know that there is a fringe element in every single one of the religious groups. And where do you come off calling me a Commie? Do you even know what a Communist is? You shouldn't comment on things you
@Facebook289 - You had better ask your little stupid question of people who actually FLED Communist bloc countries from the 1950's into the '80's. They'll tell you far more what it represents - tyranny, repression, murder, political purges, and long lines for the barest necessities of foodstuffs. And as for what a quisling is - don't talk down to me, I know EXACTLY what a quisling is. You fit the bill.
@wmbrown6 Communism is an economic theory moron. Hello! Haven't you heard of Karl Marx? Jesus, all those other examples of communism aren't communism they are totalitarian states idiot. Does rationing happen in Communism? Yes, no different from our lines in capitalism the only difference is its not talked about because of how much wealth is created even though like 1 percent of the population sees that damn wealth
@Facebook289 - Don't pull that on me. It's been said that a Communist is someone who only reads Karl Marx, whereas an anti-Communist is someone who UNDERSTANDS Marx. You CANNOT separate Communism from the purges, the murders, the deliberate starvations, the human rights violations etc., etc., etc. In doing so, you would be SPITTING on the graves of over 100 million who were killed under Communism. Including 70 million in China under Mao Tse-tung, 30 million under Stalin ...
@Facebook289 - This proves it, you are a completely brainwashed and indoctrinated moron who has been given outright propaganda that WHITEWASHES the atrocities of these regimes. You are also proof that every single person who waxes rhapsodic about Communism HAS NEVER ACTUALLY LIVED UNDER SUCH DESPOTIC REGIMES.
@wmbrown6 you wouldn't know despotism from the right cheek of your ass so don't give me that shit. Have you lived under those "despotic regimes"? no so dont give me that bs
@Facebook289 - Again, just shut up, you foul-mouthed, ill-mannered, snot-nosed elitist punk. I stand with those who DID live under such regimes. You, on the other hand, clearly stand with those dictatorships of old.
@Facebook289 - Your arguments are flimsy and consist entirely of every politically correct leftist shibboleth under the sun. You live in a world of theory, conjecture and hypothesis, and seek to bend and subordinate the realities of the world to suit those theories. The 70% of Americans that oppose the Ground Zero mosque live in reality. The 30% that support it are among the elites, the ivory-tower pinheads, the leftist agitators, and nefarious special interests.
@wmbrown6 oh yeah its really leftist to live up to America's ideals of Religious Tolerance. So don't give me that crap about reality. The fact of the matter is that we are trying to recruit moderate Muslims on our side to help us with radical Islamic extremist. We wont make our case by excluding Muslims and treating them like second class citizens
@Facebook289 - Bowing down to the demands of radical Islam and its front groups that seek to impose Sharia law is NOT "religious tolerance." Besides, in the Islamic world THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. Go ask any Jew or Christian or Catholic or Hindu or Buddhist or Animist if there's any kind of religious tolerance in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. And you have no business lecturing on "religious tolerance"...
@wmbrown6 Wow I'm so glad you have such high standards for America. Why would you compare a place that has no religious tolerance to us, a place that has at least for the most part religious tolerance? Shows how little your standards are.
(CONT'D) ...when the secular atheist radical Left goes apoplectic any time anybody engages in prayer or reads a Bible in public. Or if there's a Ten Commandments display in a park or courthouse. Or if someone says "under G-d" when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Or if there are crosses on war memorials - even if that memorial is privately funded and was not paid for with government money.
@Facebook289 - The fact is that your attitude is typical of politically correct multiculturalism and moral relativism. This is the kind of shibboleth we hear every time from the dhimmi quisling Mayor Bloomberg whose business news service has dealings in the Middle East, including Dubai. This proposed mosque WOULD CAST A SHADOW OVER Ground Zero, as a form of Islamofascist triumph and de facto American surrender to Sharia law.
@wmbrown6 and get off your high horse about Sharia law. No ones conspiring to impose that in America. WTF does what they are doing over there have anything to do with over here? Stupid ass
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you punk. By your arrogant, disdainful, contemptuous attitude, you are CLEARLY BLIND to the threat radical Islam poses to ALL our freedoms. You clearly support women being treated as less than human - in fact, even less than what Dred Scott was ruled in that infamous 1857 decision.
@wmbrown6 How dare you throw that case in my face. You disgust me how you want to throw travesties in peoples face to try and stoke up fear and hatred of a people you know nothing about. I get it bitch! Guess what your propaganda only fuels their ammunition. Your giving all the extremists in the world justification for their actions. You're worse than a sleazy defense attorney who throws the fear of gay card to get a murderer off.
You are clearly covering for the stealth jihadists who are working according to the playbook of the Muslim Brotherhood to advance their aims of imposing Sharia law on America and the West. And one of their tactics is to accuse all their opponents of "bigotry" and "not knowing about their culture." This makes you by definition a fellow traveller and a collaborator with the enemy. No, the only one fuelling their agenda is YOU by your attacking those who STAND UP to these Islamo-bullies.
@wmbrown6 oh yeah thats it....im covering for the jihadists..dumbass....thats all I have to say to your quixotic mind and paranoid conspiracy theories
@Facebook289 - By your smug, condescending attitude, it is obvious that you are. And your dismissal of Americans who are concerned about the encroachment of Sharia law in and on this country as "paranoid" is evidence of this. This is exactly out of the Muslim Brotherhood's playbook. It is part of a strategy known as "jamming," i.e. smearing anyone and everyone who oppose the Islamic agenda.
@wmbrown6 listen 2 what your saying. Muslim Brotherhood's playbook? Come on are you seriously telling me that those guys are that omnipotent that they are going to take over America? You must be insane. How another country is governed we can't do much about. And don't give me that Nazi bullshit alright because America didn't give a damn about the Jews until it suited us. Period point and blank
@Facebook289 - Can it. I'm on to you. They ARE out to take over America. Your denial is RIGHT UP THERE with the 1930's denial of the threat the Nazis posed. To you, ANYONE who sounds the alarm is "insane." You would have labeled Winston Churchill as "insane" for his warnings about Hitler pre-1940. The Left's alliance with radical Islam has been well documented - both sides HATE America and individual liberty.
@wmbrown6 lmfao..how pathetic....Oh yeah I'm with Al Qaeda and I'm conspiring with them to terrorize this country into oblivion. Do me a favor and go see a psychiatrist. This guy....complete idiot
Your attitude towards anybody who dares challenge your types is encompassed in Point #39 from the Communist goals of 1963:
"Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals."
Communist countries' mental hospitals (namely in the Soviet Union under Stalin) were FULL of political dissidents and others deemed "enemies of the State." Moreover, in fact it is LIBERALISM that is the mental disorder.
@wmbrown6 Um no I'm saying for you to do that because I believe you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and you sound like a schizophrenic who has paranoid delusions. I bet you probably see green martians as well.
@Facebook289 - Wrong, punk. You know full well the psychiatric profession is dominated by the Left and they do not hesitate to use it as an instrument of political repression, otherwise you wouldn't try to dictate as you are. To you, ANYBODY who dares challenge you and the agenda you support is "schizophrenic."
@Facebook289 - Again, I am older than you, and have been around longer, and have seen first-hand the destructive effects of liberalism, political correctness, multiculturalism, and bending over backwards to radical activist groups on this society. You're one of the useful idiots who would demonstrate in the streets with the rent-a-mobs who run interference for the troublemakers in society.
@Facebook289 - Just shut up and get out of here. Anyone who brands those who have studied true history (as opposed to the politically correct revisionism you've had your warped mind cluttered with) as "morons," are the REAL morons. It's evident that to you, the definition of a "moron" is someone who does not mindlessly support the radical leftist agenda.
@wmbrown6 Idk what history you studied but it obviously isn't the history that actual people have written down. Must be the one that you written in your own head
@Facebook289 - For you, "actual people" are those who've been totally cowed by the dictates of political correctness, multiculturalism and pop psychology. Britain is one country which has been completely and totally cowed by radical Muslims (who scream "bigot" all the while) in that country, to the point where there are now Sharia law courts and areas which are totally off-limits to non-Muslims, and that country is now on track towards total Islamization. As is the case with the rest of Europe.
@Facebook289 - Listen, punk, YOU'RE the fool for believing without question the politically correct BS that was shoved into what passes for a brain. And yet, to someone like you whose mind has been warped possibly beyond repair, everyone else in the world is the "fool." None of this would be necessary if you just moved on and spewed your crap in other places where they'll agree with your stupid platitudes and shibboleths.
@wmbrown6 how many times do we have to go over this preposterous notion. Listen you little insignificant peon. America has waved the human rights issue as if its the leader on it. The reality is we are not. We are the biggest hypocrites in the damn world. We violate peoples rights all the damn time in our own country even to the extent of murdering human beings because they aren't "Americans" so to speak. We are no better than them unless we have standards and the rule of law. Apparently you
@Facebook289 - And one more thing: SHUT. THE. F***. UP. PUNK. An America-hating "One World" internationalist traitor vermin like you who ALWAYS takes the side of our enemies no matter what has NO RIGHT and NO BUSINESS lecturing anyone else on patriotism. You would have taken the side of Hitler and the Nazis prior to - and even in the early years of - WWII, with that attitude of yours. You're the type who would have DESECRATED the American flag with your attitude. F*** your revisionist crap.
@str33twarrior22 - Typical intolerant liberal fascist pig. You ever heard of the First Amendment, you Stalinist lowlife? Go to Cuba or Nicaragua or North Korea if you hate free speech, you America-hating Commie scumbag.
@wmbrown6 have no standards. It is time we start practicing what we preach or just get out of the way. i love this country as much as the next person but waving the flag in my face for some fictitious patriotism without backing it up with our actions makes you as despicable as the Taliban themselves. Now do me a favor and learn something about the history of America's faults before you start glamorizing everything about this country and go denigrating other countries around the world
@Facebook289 - Again, you regurgitate the same politically correct, namby-pamby moral equivalence you've thrown out a million times. Don't give me this "moral standards" BS because for people of your worldview, "moral standards" is code for MORAL COWARDICE. Take all your America-hating, -bashing and -denigrating pulp fiction rags you're trying to shove in my face AND SHOVE THEM UP YOURS!
@wmbrown6 you just engage in ad hominem name calling without justifying any of your arguments with evidence and your arguments arent even that sound. They just sound like a bunch of white noise. Its really pathetic.
@Facebook289 - I have historical justification for calling out your anti-Americanism and support of Islamofascist jihad. YOU are the white noise around here. YOUR arguments have no basis whatsoever in any facts on the ground. You are a water carrier for the Muslim Brotherhood and its numerous front groups, proxies, surrogates and useful idiots. So hit the road and don't come back.
the true principles of those religions in spite of the leaders inabilities to condemn the extremist parts of their religion. Now do me a favor and learn 2 be a grown up
@Facebook289 - You are engaging in "taqqiya" in advancement of the aims of the Muslim Brotherhood. People like you SHOULD BE CALLED OUT for your seditious attitude. You are engaging in DELIBERATE DECEIT to fool the "dhimmi" infidels. Are you aware that blacks are sold as slaves in Muslim countries, and that their status is particularly low? Or have you fallen totally for the pro-Islamist propaganda in your leftist university?
@Facebook289 - And moreover, Islam is NO "religion." It is a theo-political ideology that brooks NO tolerance of ANY other religion, or freedoms of anything, or anything related to Western values. One of THEIR "values" is "taqqiya," or deliberately lying to deceive "dhimmi" infidels. There are only TWO worlds in Islam - "dar al-Islam" and "dar al-harb" - the latter of which is inferior "dhimmi" status where those in that group are subject to annihilation if they don't convert.
@wmbrown6 to go back to the Stone Ages again just head off to China so that way you're kind isn't accepted there and then you'll finally realize why controversy is not the same thing as heresy or apostasy. Just get over it...You guys will lose this battle
@Facebook289 - Why don't you just shut up and recognize it is YOU who are in the minority here. A majority OPPOSE this specific mosque PRECISELY BECAUSE it is about IMPOSING SHARIA LAW ON AMERICA. You have NO RIGHT and NO BUSINESS dictating to ANYBODY what they should do with their lives. YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF JIHAD AND OF ISLAMIC SUPREMACISM BY YOUR REMARKS.
@wmbrown6 haha why thank you i am a minority....You know something! Minorities have rights contrary to popular opinion! The majority can kiss my black ass....Its not a popularity contest, its about right or wrong period. And you're one to talk about people dictating how people should run their business considering you're the one who is saying to Muslims to not build a mosque there even though its none of your damn business.
@Facebook289 - Oh, so you're a Black Muslim, eh? You found "religion" through Louis Farrakhan? I was referring to your IDEOLOGICALLY being in the minority, you lowlife. And YOU ARE IN THE WRONG, BIG-TIME. YOU ARE A USEFUL IDIOT FOR THE ISLAMIC SUPREMACISTS THAT ADVOCATE REPLACING OUR OWN CONSTITUTION WITH TOTALITARIAN SHARIA LAW THAT BROOKS NO TOLERANCE FOR FREEDOM OR WOMEN OR BLACKS OR GAYS. THAT is what this is all about. It is ALL about STEALTH JIHAD BY TAQQIYA.
@wmbrown6 wow now your getting this stuff out of your ass. Louis Farrakhan? Really? Please dude I mean really that is a ludicrous argument to make. First of all I said if you actually read the inscription that I subscribed to no faith including Islam. Second of all, Yeah I am black so what? You have a problem against black people bitch? As far as me being a useful idiot. You are useless and you are an idiot. The only thing one can use you for is to wipe their asses with because your arguments
The less one believes in G-d, the more they are likely to fall for death-worshipping cults like radical Wahhabist Islam as promoted and spread by Saudi Arabia. Your contempt for the American people, and your running interference for stealth jihadists, deserves to be called out. Go peddle your crap at the Daily Kos or HuffPo where you'll have a chorus of brain-dead sycophants who'll agree with every one of your rants. Stop wasting your time here. You have no regard for the victims of 9/11.
@wmbrown6 Did you know that the mainstream muslims are Sunni and Shiite? The Wahhabi doctrine has nothing to do with the fuckin beliefs of the Quran! And don't put words in my mouth bitch I never said anything about not having any sympathy for the 9/11 victims I just don't use them as an excuse to trample on other people's rights you maniacal right-wing whore.
Listen, you Commie punk, how dare you accuse the majority of the American people of being "maniacal right-wing whores." This is typical leftist contempt for anyone who does not agree with their subversive agenda. And B.T.W., speaking of the Quran - ever read Sura 9:5 dealing with non-Muslim infidels - "Kill them wherever you find them"? The radical Muslims take this VERY LITERALLY. In Muslim countries there is mass persecution and oppression of Jews, Christians, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus etc.
@wmbrown6 oh you mean like this in the Bible "Death to Followers of Other Religions Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
or how about this? :
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, the point in bringing up this Pearl Harbor thing was, that "day of infamy" was as much a desecration as the destruction of the World Trade Center was - and with as much loss of life (3,000 in each instance). You only care about advancing the radical hatemongering Islamofascist Sharia agenda.
@Facebook289 - What's more, the stupid "freedom of religion" argument is insane, given the radical Left's continued war AGAINST Christianity, Catholicism and Judaism - their ripping the crosses off war memorials, their forcing people of faith to act against their religious and moral beliefs viz "gay" marriage by penalty of fines, jail or personal destruction, their removals of "Ten Commandments" displays and all other manifestations of religious expression in the public square.
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, by supporting Islamofascists in this issue, you support: the subjugation of women and their treatment as chattel, forcing them to wear burqas, genital mutilation, arranged multiple marriages, stoning to death of women and gays, honor killings, murder of any apostate (who leaves Islam), and the replacement of our own Constitution with totalitarian Sharia law and forcing us to the level of 7th-century barbarism.
@wmbrown6 next to Ground Zero should we ban those things as well? Besides there already is a mosque 4 blocks away from Ground Zero, how about we just ban that along with the 99 other mosque down in Manhattan. This argument is absurd! By the way its not even on Ground Zero, its two blocks away and its not even a damn mosque! Its a freakin community center! You guys stoke up more fake controversy than anyone I know. Grow the fuck up
@Facebook289 - SHUT UP, YOU ISLAMO-PANDERING FIFTH-COLUMN PIECE OF ANTI-AMERICAN DUNG. BY YOUR ATTITUDE YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF ISLAMO-TERRORISM AND OF ISLAMIC CONQUEST OF AMERICA. YOUR MORAL EQUIVALENCE IS SICKENING AND DISGUSTING. Have you heard the imam's "blame America" comments of a few years ago where he claimed we were worse than al Qaeda WHICH IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE - more Muslims were killed by radical Muslims than anyone else.
@Facebook289 - What's more, these troublemaking radical Muslims' callous insensitivity to the 9/11 families stands in stark contrast to several years ago when Catholics wanted to build a convent in the area of the Nazi death camps in Auschwitz - and the uproar was so great that Pope John Paul II finally convinced the nuns to move their planned convent to another location, which they did.
@Facebook289 - What's more, you are clearly engaging in a pointless, frivolous fishing expedition to try to hang anyone who stands up to your thuggish bullying tactics and sympathy for our enemies.
@wmbrown6 As if Christians and Jews are no less guilty of that barbarity in Medieval times. Christians have been killing Christians, Muslims, and Jews for thousands of years and suddenly when its Muslims who do such its a different story? Its called radicalization of Islam same with Christians you ignoramus. Learn your history
@Facebook289 - Again, you lowlife, SHOVE IT with your moral equivalence and justification for Islamo-terrorist atrocities against the West, you America-hating, Jew-hating, Christophobic scum. Now it turns out it was the hated "waterboarding" that ultimately led to the killing of bin Laden. How do you like them there apples? And with the same techniques that Obama sought to kill off to appease the far-left, anti-American, pan-Islamist, Code Pinko "base."
@ForeverMan96 - You are an absolute disgrace, because by what you espouse you are clearly on the side of the Islamo-terrorists who want to kill us all, convert all of the West to Islam, and impose totalitarian Sharia law around the world. Not to mention being a woman-hater - which Islam certainly is, based on their enslaving women in burqas. You don't give a rat's behind about our survival.
Poor liberal.all he has is to yell and counter with conflicting aurgumentative speach. Same old story, This Woman trashes the fool...the DEBATE IS OVER!
@russell1501 one of the major problems and could be the loss of America itself is this show boating and total disregard for reality all sides make for public consumption. There is and never has been one clear cut answer to almost anything besides math and chemistry....every issue has sides, opinions and truth to it mostly...what has made America great was the fact we could actually sit down and discuss things civilly..that is soon becoiming such a lost art.salesmen have taken over. sad but true
@grozde - To you, anyone who supports fighting against Islamo-terrorism is "stupid" and a "hypocrite." You are therefore on the side of Islamo-terrorists and are against fighting Islamo-terrorism. You would let Hezbollah or HAMAS or al Qaeda run roughshod over all of us rather than use whatever tools are needed to stop them.
To you, anyone who is against torture and for the rule of law is "Islamo-terrorist". You would resurrect the Medieval Inquisition, which trials, and stoning of disobedient children rather than follow the common sense and the law.
Does the above sound stupid and irrelevant to you? Well, that's how your claim sounds to me! ;-)
@grozde - Don't give me this "rule of law" business. That's to cover your own moral cowardice, weakness, and appeasement to radical Islam. What would you do if an illegal alien gangbanger burst your door down and wanted to rape your wife or your daughter - invite him over to tea? Ordinary people with common sense would do whatever it takes to protect their family. So it is with a nation (and a society) whose survival is hanging like a loose tooth.
Common people do a lot of things. The STATE, the GOVERNMENT, the POLICE, etc., MUST obey the rule of law!
If an "illegal alien gangbanger burst your door down and wanted to rape your wife or your daughter", when he's caught, he goes to COURT, he's not left at your mercy, is he???!!!
@grozde - Furthermore, I didn't hear you complaining about the "rule of law" or "common sense" when Islamo-terrorists tortured Daniel Pearl before brutally murdering him. Or did likewise to Nick Berg. The point is this, you have a "soft on Islamo-terrorism" attitude and sympathy for the Islamo-terrorists. They want to burn your door down and kill you and your family. Your namby-pambyism is what is endangering our survival.
@wmbrown6 opinion under advisement than a meager peon like you. Its not about what they do, its about what we do. We stoop down to their level it shows that we are no better than the enemies we fight. But I guess all you care about is to show that you can win a pissing contest without thinking shit through. How about you look up medieval history when those barbaric type of techniques were prevalent. Guess what? They only confessed because they were tortured. It doesn't actually show that they
Besides, I know where you got these talking points, you foul-mouthed degenerate: From your America-hating, jihad-loving, pot-smoking college professor who has sympathies for al Qaeda, HAMAS and Hezbollah, and would resist fighting Islamo-terrorism. The late Rabbi Meir Kahane once put it best: "I'd rather be at their [the Islamo-terrorists'] level, than be six feet under their level." You would rather - as well as rather we all - be six feet under the Islamo-terrorists' level, by your attitude.
@Facebook289 - What's more, it's obvious you would rather that one of these Islamo-terrorists would place a dirty bomb in any of our major cities and kill millions (and wipe those cities off the map) than do whatever it takes to stop such a plot. You don't give a rat's behind about our survival, and are definitely pro-jihadist in your sympathies. Otherwise you wouldn't be talking like that. Your little world of theory does not work in the real world.
@Facebook289 - You are the real "meager peon" here. You think you know everything because you received all the leftist talking points from your America-hating leftist college professor that preaches sympathy for jihadists. You would obviously rather we be enslaved under sharia law, with no rights for women, blacks or gays, women enslaved in burqas, and civilization plunged into a thousand years of darkness - in short, total surrender to Islam.
@grozde - Let me remind you, also, that since your messiah Obama took office, Islamo-terror attacks on America have been going through the roof - the massacre at an Army recruiting center in Arkansas, the Fort Hood massacre, the "crotch bomber," the failed Times Square bomb plot, etc. I see you would rather have all that than do whatever it took to stop them before they started. Of course simple survival instinct is "stupid and irrelevant" to you, because you have a death wish for the country.
:-)) Yo've gone too far with the assumptions. I have no faith Obama - his main advantage is that he's not GW! What's more, I'm not even from the USA... ;-)
And if you honestly think that terrorists activate once you stop torturing them - you don't have the slightest idea about the world around you!!!
@grozde - That is what a lot of brain-dead people say ("Obama's not Bush"). That's no excuse, I have to add. I do live in the real world. You, however, like other Ivy League/ivory-tower pinheads, live in a world of theory, conjecture and hypothesis - and seek to bend the world's realities to suit your pet theories. Moreover, it was Islamo-terrorists who declared war on us via their murdering 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001.
@wmbrown6 guilty of any actual crime or that they extracted any actionable intelligence from doing that. They will say anything! Period point and blank. If you don't understand that then their is no point in talking to you period. Read up on the facts before you begin to spew out a bunch of crap from right wing hacks whose information they get out of their asses.
@perrysafer - You are therefore on the side of Islamo-terrorists who want to kill us all and impose Islamic sharia law on America and the West. You are an empty vessel for al Qaeda. Period, end of story. You don't care about our survival one bit.
Your lack of education and ignorance is outstanding. The United States of America is a secular country with a secular constitution. A constitution written by a man(Thomas Jefferson) who did not believe in Christianity and openly mocked it and called it the most perverted system known to man. The constitution guarantees us the right of separation of church and state. Which means that religious fanatics like your self cannot tell us how to live.
Our founding fathers have already created a secular country. Have you even read the constitution or studied American history? Most of the founding fathers didn't believe in Christianity. You should read the constitution before making such stupid uneducated statements. FACTS OVER FAITH!!!
But all the christian theological and moral philosofy was based on the greek thinkers. Where would Thomas of Aquinas be if it had not been for Aritstoteles?
that last comment by liz cheney was completely disingenuous... claiming that o'donnell said they should have waterboarded 500 when in fact he ASKED why dick cheney didnt want to waterboard those 500 known terrorists. liz cheney is a shill for her father, a joke to her country and a disgrace to her own conscience. how does someone like that sleep at night?
Wow. Talk about twisting logic to suit an argument.. "It was ok because they did other bad things too". Riiight... It was torture. If The Cheneys would stop trying to make red look like blue then maybe they might not get dismissed as liars. Pretty messed up. Just own up to what you did and accept responsibility.
good god she is a sad shill for her evil daddi o.
shallow.,
fidobarks 3 weeks ago
I'm never going waterboarding again... this just ruined it
Marksman865 10 months ago
You can get excellent information by even treating terrorists intelligently and professionally. They are not aliens from Mars. You don't have to drown someone for information. Only the unintelligent torture.
newmac 10 months ago
wtf simulating the act of drowning isnt considered torture??
DGRlubz 10 months ago
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TheDrunkenHer0 1 year ago
It is a known fact that people who do not believe in G-d: a) hate Jews and Christians, and related thereto, b) love Islam because that pseudo-"religious," murderous, genocidal, misogynistic, intolerant, totalitarian, theo-ideological death cult that worships a murdering pedophile likewise hates Jews and Christians. The Left (as exemplified by that Facebook twit) are modern-day techno-pagans. Conversely, people with a strong belief in G-d are not that likely to be ranting leftists like that punk.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 wow...that last post just totally discredited any credibility you might have had....your finished
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you lowlife. YOU ARE NOT THE ONE TO JUDGE ANYBODY, YOU UGLY, SNOT-NOSED PANSY WHO THINKS HE KNOWS IT ALL BECAUSE HE WENT TO SOME FAR-LEFT UNIVERSITY THAT PROMOTES EVERY POLITICALLY CORRECT DOGMA THERE IS. GET OFF THIS BOARD AND GO PEDDLE YOUR JIHAD-PROMOTING CRAP AT DAILY KOS OR PUFFHO. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S FINISHED HERE, YOU 20-YEAR-OLD NOBODY.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 and how old are you? because you certainly don't act it at all...
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Let's just say I've been around longer than a callow twerp like you. And to quote a famous statesman: "Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 in other words any man who disagrees with your idiotic perspectives is a moron? great we have einstein over here. Except without the brains to back it up
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - To you, anyone who disagrees with YOUR cowardice, YOUR appeasement, YOUR fifth-column sedition, YOUR sympathies with radical Islam and YOUR hatred of Jews and Christians, is a "moron" and an "idiot." YOU ARE THE ONE WITHOUT BRAINS, YOU PUNK. YOU SWALLOW WITHOUT QUESTION THE LEFTIST PROPAGANDA. You evidently AGREE with honor killings and cutting off people's limbs for various infractions.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 wait and where did you get this crap from? What statement did I ever make about hatred of Jews and Christians? Your entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. Get your story straight before you make such wild accusations idiot
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - You have spewed anti-Christian hatred by your comments, don't give me that nonsense. YOU are the one who thinks they're entitled to their own facts.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Cite EVIDENCE idiot. don't just state it. Or did you not mention any because you dont have any haha
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, punk. Go look at your own "f*** religion" posts. Otherwise, hit the road. You have no business demanding anything of anybody.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 in other words you want me 2 search for something you cant find your damn self. You expect me to make your case for you? Please what a loser.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - This shows that you are lazy on top of it all. YOU are the loser BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO LOOK FOR YOUR OWN QUOTES. You started this whole mess by your anti-Americanism.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 no your the moron. because if your going to make an accusation the least you can do is back it up by at least showing what I said. That means its incumbent upon the accuser to do the research not the accused. Or did you forget that part of the rule. Burden of Proof is on the Accuser...Did you forget about that shit?
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, punk. A radical, smug, condescending ideologue like you who thinks he knows it all because he went to some leftist university where he was indoctrinated by an America-hating, pot-smoking leftist professor, and therefore thinks he's better than everyone else, has no business setting terms of any debate. To you, ANYBODY who does not agree with the leftist agenda is a "moron." On top of your having trouble with spelling, evidently. I will not hold your putrid, diseased hand.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 haha you still haven't produced any evidence that I'm somehow anti-Semitic or Anti-Christian. Its horrible to see you lose in an argument like this because I thought I would have a worthy adversary but Its funny whipping your ass like this. By the way I don't think I know it all. I just know I know more than you. That is quite transparent to anyone who has paid attention to our arguments. And just listening to you talk
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - That's the problem. You THINK you know more than anyone else, because you went to some leftist college and were indoctrinated with all the politically correct, namby-pamby platitudes and talking points. A WEAKLING LIKE YOU WOULD GET YOUR TUCHIS HANDED ON A PLATTER by one of the Islamofascists. You didn't "whip" ANYBODY but your own shadow. Go peddle your crap at the HuffPo or Daily Kos and stop wasting your time proselytizing here. You are clearly in the ideological minority.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - It's skinny, pimply-faced pothead weaklings like you that are bringing this country to the brink. You are clearly among the mere 20% who identify as liberal-left. 42% identify as conservative, and 35% as centrist-moderate. That would make 77% as center-right.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Listen I don't care about the damn polls buddy. And even if that were correct what makes you think I'm liberal or conservative? If following the rule of law and adjudicating cases based on facts and evidence is liberal then fine I am liberal. Unlike you and others I don't just roll where the wind blows just because its popular. But your one of those blind sheep who follows and does not lead its pathetic
Facebook289 1 year ago
You don't go by ANY facts, you are a total ideologue trying to push an agenda. And you should talk about sheep - the majority of them are the ones who mindlessly supported Obama in '08 and fell hook, line and sinker for his "Yes We Can" and "Hope and Change" blarney. In fact, the Democrat Party is the party of sheeple. As for the GOP, there is reason they're called "Democrat Lite." But it's the Left who cares more about the "rights" of Islamo-terrorists than about the West's survival.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 first of all you don't know who i voted for jackass...and even if I did vote for Obama its my right moron...You're just a reactionary who wants to take us back to the days of Jim Crow when the KKK ruled the streets..
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - This is exactly what people on the Left say to anyone who does not support their agenda. Your act won't fly around here.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 where the South? haha
Facebook289 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 haha I thought so you loser! you couldn't reply because you ran out of lies to espouse! dumbass
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you punk. A loser like YOU has no business judging who's the loser, you lowlife. I go by what's right. You go by what's politically correct.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 no politically correct would say I respect your opinion even though I disagree with you. The truth is I don't respect your opinion because you conjure up a bunch of crap and don't put together an intelligent response to counter my arguments. I don't condemn you because I disagree with you. I condemn you because your an imbecile
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - This shows your contempt of anyone who disagrees with your dogmas. To you, ANYONE who stands for basic American values (REAL values, not this mishmash the Left keeps regurgitating) is an "imbecile." The demonization of those who oppose the Ground Zero mosque and slander of them as "bigots" - therefore evidencing their accusers as supporters of Islamic supremacism - is clear proof of this.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 thats because you are a bigot.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Evidently, to you, ANYBODY who's a proud American is a "bigot," because you are a "One World" internationalist traitor who is at one with this "post-American" agenda pushed by George Soros and the Left. You have nothing substantive to debate anyone on, so you use such epithets to try to shut down ANY debate on anything. This is why arrogant, smug coastal elitists like you are HATED by middle America.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 GET OVER YOURSELF YOU STUPID BITCH...Freedom of Religion. End of story. They not only have every right to do it, there is nothing you can do about it. What so when Catholics and Christians start bombing abortion clinics should we ban them from implementing churches where the clinics were bombed? Its asinine and a bunch of Islamophobia thats masquerading as "sensitivity". There are peep shows and pornshops there at Ground Zero. As well as a Holocaust Museum and a Greek Catholic church
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with "freedom of religion." This is a DELIBERATE thumb in the eye to the families of victims of 9/11. There are 100 mosques in New York City alone. And the hatemongering imam and his wife have REJECTED any and all calls to move his little project elsewhere in the city. No, you support a de facto Islamic victory OVER America.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 wow, hes so radical that George Bush hired him at the State Department to go around the world to show what the world is like for Muslims in America thats how bad he is. That shows how little you know
Facebook289 1 year ago
The Bush family are no conservatives whatsoever. In fact, they have more in common with the Rockefeller RINO establishment than true conservatism. Just remember that Bush 'Dubya' referred to Islam as a 'religion of peace' - plus his allowing a flood of Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa during his Presidency - which made his so-called "War on Terror" ring hollow. But Obama is many times worse - totally supporting Muslim interests over those of this country.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, if this were TRULY about "freedom of religion," then there would be a church or synagogue built in Saudi Arabia. Within a few hundred yards of where Muslims make their "hajj" to Mecca. Besides, Muslims throughout history have built mosques in every place where they engaged victorious against "infidels" in such places as: the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, the Cordoba mosque in Spain, and the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Let me also warn you that that little Greek Catholic church near Ground Zero has been TIED UP IN RED TAPE in their quest to rebuild their church, in essence denied the right to rebuild - while Islamofascists have been given the fast track and outright preferential treatment in their monument to Islamofascists' war on America. Would you support a monument to Japanese kamikaze pilots near Pearl Harbor?
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 are you that stupid to compare Japanese Imperialist to an entire religion?
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up. To you, anyone who does not fall for the Muslim Brotherhood's stealth jihad (which is what this claim of "freedom of religion" viz this proposed mosque near Ground Zero really is) is "stupid." Many Americans, on the contrary, have been given a crash course about the true agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood and their alphabet-soup front groups (CAIR, MAS, MPAC etc.) which is TO IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON AMERICA AND THE WEST. You are PRO-SHARIA and PRO-JIHAD. Period, end of story.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 first of all i dont subscribe to any faith so don't go assuming about shit you have no idea about. second of all George Bush actually was a social conservative. He just wasn't a fiscal conservative which is why this country is in a huge financial ditch its in now! As far as the religion of Islam, you ought to actually talk to someone who's read the Quran instead of picking all the bad apples out of the tree because any moron can do that shit. By the way if you want this country
Facebook289 1 year ago
Just shut up with your condescending advice. Many moderate Muslims ALSO oppose this proposed Ground Zero mosque, and have opined - as the editor of al-Arabiya has - that it would indeed be a monument to Islamo-terrorists and to al Qaeda. The funding for this is largely coming from Saudi Arabia which funds radical Wahhabi mosques that preach jihad around the world. Imam Rauf and his wife ARE RADICAL MUSLIMS THAT FAVOR FORCING SHARIA LAW DOWN ALL OUR THROATS. Get that through your thick head.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 oh wait now you're trying to pull the Moderate Muslim card even though you despise Muslims? You can't have it both ways idiot. You can't say that you hate them and then try to use them when it serves your benefit. And there is no evidence that he even supports Sharia so stop spouting out that garbage
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - It is the RADICAL MUSLIMS who want to KILL ALL NON-MUSLIM "INFIDELS" AND ENSLAVE US ALL UNDER SHARIA LAW who are hated here. AND FOR GOOD REASON. YOUR SYMPATHIES FOR 19 HIJACKERS - 15 OF WHOM WERE SAUDI NATIONALS - WHO MURDERED 3,000 ON 9/11, ARE TANTAMOUNT TO SYMPATHIZING WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII, OR WITH THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE AFTER PEARL HARBOR. Your contempt for the American people borders on DISGUSTING and SICKENING.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 are absolutely laughable. And don't use a tragedy as an excuse to violate the rights of 7 million Americans just because you don't like them. Like I said go somewhere with that crap
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, punk. You have no right to dictate to anybody how to live their lives. You are completely and totally on the wrong side of history, and have taken the side of totalitarianism and barbarity by default. In Islam there are only TWO choices - convert or die.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 just like any other place that has a government dominated by religion learn your history idiot.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Again, to you, ANYBODY who doesn't fall for this politically correct narrative that is being peddled by the leftist, Saudi-financed, jihad-sympathizing media is an "idiot." I actually KNOW world history. Whereas you only know the leftist revisionism that trashes Christianity and whitewashes Islam. Again, go somewhere else to peddle your garbage. You just want everyone TO "THINK" EXACTLY LIKE YOU DO. That is called PROSELYTIZING.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Oh really did you know that Christians burned people at the stake because people refused to convert or comply with their so called faith? How about the fact that many Christians persecuted Jews because somehow they were responsible for having Jesus executed? Listen this is not to trash Christianity, I'm doing this to point out the fact that there are times when religions will be run amok. I hate religion for that but I don't condemn those religions because of historical tragedy. I know
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - This is typical of morally equivalent leftist quislings trying to justify their bending over backwards to radical Muslims who seek to impose Sharia law on everybody - and to justify their hatred of Christianity. And yes, people like you ARE quislings. Your contempt for the American people and grossly callous insensitivity to those who RIGHTLY see a desecration of hallowed ground taking place is utterly deplorable.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Again like I said all religions have those type of verses if you actually read the text you imbecile. I bet you don't even know what a quisling is. haha which is very comical...The key word you used is Radical Islam! so enough of this moronic castigation on the Islamic religion when you know that there is a fringe element in every single one of the religious groups. And where do you come off calling me a Commie? Do you even know what a Communist is? You shouldn't comment on things you
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - You had better ask your little stupid question of people who actually FLED Communist bloc countries from the 1950's into the '80's. They'll tell you far more what it represents - tyranny, repression, murder, political purges, and long lines for the barest necessities of foodstuffs. And as for what a quisling is - don't talk down to me, I know EXACTLY what a quisling is. You fit the bill.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Communism is an economic theory moron. Hello! Haven't you heard of Karl Marx? Jesus, all those other examples of communism aren't communism they are totalitarian states idiot. Does rationing happen in Communism? Yes, no different from our lines in capitalism the only difference is its not talked about because of how much wealth is created even though like 1 percent of the population sees that damn wealth
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Don't pull that on me. It's been said that a Communist is someone who only reads Karl Marx, whereas an anti-Communist is someone who UNDERSTANDS Marx. You CANNOT separate Communism from the purges, the murders, the deliberate starvations, the human rights violations etc., etc., etc. In doing so, you would be SPITTING on the graves of over 100 million who were killed under Communism. Including 70 million in China under Mao Tse-tung, 30 million under Stalin ...
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Well they were lying to you...and its 20 million under Stalin not 30 million.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - This proves it, you are a completely brainwashed and indoctrinated moron who has been given outright propaganda that WHITEWASHES the atrocities of these regimes. You are also proof that every single person who waxes rhapsodic about Communism HAS NEVER ACTUALLY LIVED UNDER SUCH DESPOTIC REGIMES.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 you wouldn't know despotism from the right cheek of your ass so don't give me that shit. Have you lived under those "despotic regimes"? no so dont give me that bs
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Again, just shut up, you foul-mouthed, ill-mannered, snot-nosed elitist punk. I stand with those who DID live under such regimes. You, on the other hand, clearly stand with those dictatorships of old.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 haha, another red herring....when will you actually bring up an intelligible point to counter my arguments?
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Your arguments are flimsy and consist entirely of every politically correct leftist shibboleth under the sun. You live in a world of theory, conjecture and hypothesis, and seek to bend and subordinate the realities of the world to suit those theories. The 70% of Americans that oppose the Ground Zero mosque live in reality. The 30% that support it are among the elites, the ivory-tower pinheads, the leftist agitators, and nefarious special interests.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 oh yeah its really leftist to live up to America's ideals of Religious Tolerance. So don't give me that crap about reality. The fact of the matter is that we are trying to recruit moderate Muslims on our side to help us with radical Islamic extremist. We wont make our case by excluding Muslims and treating them like second class citizens
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Bowing down to the demands of radical Islam and its front groups that seek to impose Sharia law is NOT "religious tolerance." Besides, in the Islamic world THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. Go ask any Jew or Christian or Catholic or Hindu or Buddhist or Animist if there's any kind of religious tolerance in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. And you have no business lecturing on "religious tolerance"...
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Wow I'm so glad you have such high standards for America. Why would you compare a place that has no religious tolerance to us, a place that has at least for the most part religious tolerance? Shows how little your standards are.
Facebook289 1 year ago
(CONT'D) ...when the secular atheist radical Left goes apoplectic any time anybody engages in prayer or reads a Bible in public. Or if there's a Ten Commandments display in a park or courthouse. Or if someone says "under G-d" when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Or if there are crosses on war memorials - even if that memorial is privately funded and was not paid for with government money.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - The fact is that your attitude is typical of politically correct multiculturalism and moral relativism. This is the kind of shibboleth we hear every time from the dhimmi quisling Mayor Bloomberg whose business news service has dealings in the Middle East, including Dubai. This proposed mosque WOULD CAST A SHADOW OVER Ground Zero, as a form of Islamofascist triumph and de facto American surrender to Sharia law.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 and get off your high horse about Sharia law. No ones conspiring to impose that in America. WTF does what they are doing over there have anything to do with over here? Stupid ass
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Shut up, you punk. By your arrogant, disdainful, contemptuous attitude, you are CLEARLY BLIND to the threat radical Islam poses to ALL our freedoms. You clearly support women being treated as less than human - in fact, even less than what Dred Scott was ruled in that infamous 1857 decision.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 How dare you throw that case in my face. You disgust me how you want to throw travesties in peoples face to try and stoke up fear and hatred of a people you know nothing about. I get it bitch! Guess what your propaganda only fuels their ammunition. Your giving all the extremists in the world justification for their actions. You're worse than a sleazy defense attorney who throws the fear of gay card to get a murderer off.
Facebook289 1 year ago
You are clearly covering for the stealth jihadists who are working according to the playbook of the Muslim Brotherhood to advance their aims of imposing Sharia law on America and the West. And one of their tactics is to accuse all their opponents of "bigotry" and "not knowing about their culture." This makes you by definition a fellow traveller and a collaborator with the enemy. No, the only one fuelling their agenda is YOU by your attacking those who STAND UP to these Islamo-bullies.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 oh yeah thats it....im covering for the jihadists..dumbass....thats all I have to say to your quixotic mind and paranoid conspiracy theories
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - By your smug, condescending attitude, it is obvious that you are. And your dismissal of Americans who are concerned about the encroachment of Sharia law in and on this country as "paranoid" is evidence of this. This is exactly out of the Muslim Brotherhood's playbook. It is part of a strategy known as "jamming," i.e. smearing anyone and everyone who oppose the Islamic agenda.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 listen 2 what your saying. Muslim Brotherhood's playbook? Come on are you seriously telling me that those guys are that omnipotent that they are going to take over America? You must be insane. How another country is governed we can't do much about. And don't give me that Nazi bullshit alright because America didn't give a damn about the Jews until it suited us. Period point and blank
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Can it. I'm on to you. They ARE out to take over America. Your denial is RIGHT UP THERE with the 1930's denial of the threat the Nazis posed. To you, ANYONE who sounds the alarm is "insane." You would have labeled Winston Churchill as "insane" for his warnings about Hitler pre-1940. The Left's alliance with radical Islam has been well documented - both sides HATE America and individual liberty.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 lmfao..how pathetic....Oh yeah I'm with Al Qaeda and I'm conspiring with them to terrorize this country into oblivion. Do me a favor and go see a psychiatrist. This guy....complete idiot
Facebook289 1 year ago
Your attitude towards anybody who dares challenge your types is encompassed in Point #39 from the Communist goals of 1963:
"Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals."
Communist countries' mental hospitals (namely in the Soviet Union under Stalin) were FULL of political dissidents and others deemed "enemies of the State." Moreover, in fact it is LIBERALISM that is the mental disorder.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Um no I'm saying for you to do that because I believe you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and you sound like a schizophrenic who has paranoid delusions. I bet you probably see green martians as well.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Wrong, punk. You know full well the psychiatric profession is dominated by the Left and they do not hesitate to use it as an instrument of political repression, otherwise you wouldn't try to dictate as you are. To you, ANYBODY who dares challenge you and the agenda you support is "schizophrenic."
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 How old are you again?
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Again, I am older than you, and have been around longer, and have seen first-hand the destructive effects of liberalism, political correctness, multiculturalism, and bending over backwards to radical activist groups on this society. You're one of the useful idiots who would demonstrate in the streets with the rent-a-mobs who run interference for the troublemakers in society.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 your just a moron period
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Just shut up and get out of here. Anyone who brands those who have studied true history (as opposed to the politically correct revisionism you've had your warped mind cluttered with) as "morons," are the REAL morons. It's evident that to you, the definition of a "moron" is someone who does not mindlessly support the radical leftist agenda.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Idk what history you studied but it obviously isn't the history that actual people have written down. Must be the one that you written in your own head
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - For you, "actual people" are those who've been totally cowed by the dictates of political correctness, multiculturalism and pop psychology. Britain is one country which has been completely and totally cowed by radical Muslims (who scream "bigot" all the while) in that country, to the point where there are now Sharia law courts and areas which are totally off-limits to non-Muslims, and that country is now on track towards total Islamization. As is the case with the rest of Europe.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 your arguments are the same....do you ever quit spewing out the same idiotic shit or do you just like making a fool of yourself
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Listen, punk, YOU'RE the fool for believing without question the politically correct BS that was shoved into what passes for a brain. And yet, to someone like you whose mind has been warped possibly beyond repair, everyone else in the world is the "fool." None of this would be necessary if you just moved on and spewed your crap in other places where they'll agree with your stupid platitudes and shibboleths.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 how many times do we have to go over this preposterous notion. Listen you little insignificant peon. America has waved the human rights issue as if its the leader on it. The reality is we are not. We are the biggest hypocrites in the damn world. We violate peoples rights all the damn time in our own country even to the extent of murdering human beings because they aren't "Americans" so to speak. We are no better than them unless we have standards and the rule of law. Apparently you
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - And one more thing: SHUT. THE. F***. UP. PUNK. An America-hating "One World" internationalist traitor vermin like you who ALWAYS takes the side of our enemies no matter what has NO RIGHT and NO BUSINESS lecturing anyone else on patriotism. You would have taken the side of Hitler and the Nazis prior to - and even in the early years of - WWII, with that attitude of yours. You're the type who would have DESECRATED the American flag with your attitude. F*** your revisionist crap.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Your a typical, far right lunatic. Shut the fuck up.
str33twarrior22 1 year ago
@str33twarrior22 - Typical intolerant liberal fascist pig. You ever heard of the First Amendment, you Stalinist lowlife? Go to Cuba or Nicaragua or North Korea if you hate free speech, you America-hating Commie scumbag.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 have no standards. It is time we start practicing what we preach or just get out of the way. i love this country as much as the next person but waving the flag in my face for some fictitious patriotism without backing it up with our actions makes you as despicable as the Taliban themselves. Now do me a favor and learn something about the history of America's faults before you start glamorizing everything about this country and go denigrating other countries around the world
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Again, you regurgitate the same politically correct, namby-pamby moral equivalence you've thrown out a million times. Don't give me this "moral standards" BS because for people of your worldview, "moral standards" is code for MORAL COWARDICE. Take all your America-hating, -bashing and -denigrating pulp fiction rags you're trying to shove in my face AND SHOVE THEM UP YOURS!
wmbrown6 1 year ago
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@wmbrown6 you just engage in ad hominem name calling without justifying any of your arguments with evidence and your arguments arent even that sound. They just sound like a bunch of white noise. Its really pathetic.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - I have historical justification for calling out your anti-Americanism and support of Islamofascist jihad. YOU are the white noise around here. YOUR arguments have no basis whatsoever in any facts on the ground. You are a water carrier for the Muslim Brotherhood and its numerous front groups, proxies, surrogates and useful idiots. So hit the road and don't come back.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 But your too dense to understand that fact. The fact that you would undermine 1.5 billion people around the world is astounding
Facebook289 1 year ago
the true principles of those religions in spite of the leaders inabilities to condemn the extremist parts of their religion. Now do me a favor and learn 2 be a grown up
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - You are engaging in "taqqiya" in advancement of the aims of the Muslim Brotherhood. People like you SHOULD BE CALLED OUT for your seditious attitude. You are engaging in DELIBERATE DECEIT to fool the "dhimmi" infidels. Are you aware that blacks are sold as slaves in Muslim countries, and that their status is particularly low? Or have you fallen totally for the pro-Islamist propaganda in your leftist university?
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - And moreover, Islam is NO "religion." It is a theo-political ideology that brooks NO tolerance of ANY other religion, or freedoms of anything, or anything related to Western values. One of THEIR "values" is "taqqiya," or deliberately lying to deceive "dhimmi" infidels. There are only TWO worlds in Islam - "dar al-Islam" and "dar al-harb" - the latter of which is inferior "dhimmi" status where those in that group are subject to annihilation if they don't convert.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 to go back to the Stone Ages again just head off to China so that way you're kind isn't accepted there and then you'll finally realize why controversy is not the same thing as heresy or apostasy. Just get over it...You guys will lose this battle
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Why don't you just shut up and recognize it is YOU who are in the minority here. A majority OPPOSE this specific mosque PRECISELY BECAUSE it is about IMPOSING SHARIA LAW ON AMERICA. You have NO RIGHT and NO BUSINESS dictating to ANYBODY what they should do with their lives. YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF JIHAD AND OF ISLAMIC SUPREMACISM BY YOUR REMARKS.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 haha why thank you i am a minority....You know something! Minorities have rights contrary to popular opinion! The majority can kiss my black ass....Its not a popularity contest, its about right or wrong period. And you're one to talk about people dictating how people should run their business considering you're the one who is saying to Muslims to not build a mosque there even though its none of your damn business.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Oh, so you're a Black Muslim, eh? You found "religion" through Louis Farrakhan? I was referring to your IDEOLOGICALLY being in the minority, you lowlife. And YOU ARE IN THE WRONG, BIG-TIME. YOU ARE A USEFUL IDIOT FOR THE ISLAMIC SUPREMACISTS THAT ADVOCATE REPLACING OUR OWN CONSTITUTION WITH TOTALITARIAN SHARIA LAW THAT BROOKS NO TOLERANCE FOR FREEDOM OR WOMEN OR BLACKS OR GAYS. THAT is what this is all about. It is ALL about STEALTH JIHAD BY TAQQIYA.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 wow now your getting this stuff out of your ass. Louis Farrakhan? Really? Please dude I mean really that is a ludicrous argument to make. First of all I said if you actually read the inscription that I subscribed to no faith including Islam. Second of all, Yeah I am black so what? You have a problem against black people bitch? As far as me being a useful idiot. You are useless and you are an idiot. The only thing one can use you for is to wipe their asses with because your arguments
Facebook289 1 year ago
The less one believes in G-d, the more they are likely to fall for death-worshipping cults like radical Wahhabist Islam as promoted and spread by Saudi Arabia. Your contempt for the American people, and your running interference for stealth jihadists, deserves to be called out. Go peddle your crap at the Daily Kos or HuffPo where you'll have a chorus of brain-dead sycophants who'll agree with every one of your rants. Stop wasting your time here. You have no regard for the victims of 9/11.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Did you know that the mainstream muslims are Sunni and Shiite? The Wahhabi doctrine has nothing to do with the fuckin beliefs of the Quran! And don't put words in my mouth bitch I never said anything about not having any sympathy for the 9/11 victims I just don't use them as an excuse to trample on other people's rights you maniacal right-wing whore.
Facebook289 1 year ago
Listen, you Commie punk, how dare you accuse the majority of the American people of being "maniacal right-wing whores." This is typical leftist contempt for anyone who does not agree with their subversive agenda. And B.T.W., speaking of the Quran - ever read Sura 9:5 dealing with non-Muslim infidels - "Kill them wherever you find them"? The radical Muslims take this VERY LITERALLY. In Muslim countries there is mass persecution and oppression of Jews, Christians, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus etc.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 oh you mean like this in the Bible "Death to Followers of Other Religions Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
or how about this? :
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 know nothing about.
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, the point in bringing up this Pearl Harbor thing was, that "day of infamy" was as much a desecration as the destruction of the World Trade Center was - and with as much loss of life (3,000 in each instance). You only care about advancing the radical hatemongering Islamofascist Sharia agenda.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - What's more, the stupid "freedom of religion" argument is insane, given the radical Left's continued war AGAINST Christianity, Catholicism and Judaism - their ripping the crosses off war memorials, their forcing people of faith to act against their religious and moral beliefs viz "gay" marriage by penalty of fines, jail or personal destruction, their removals of "Ten Commandments" displays and all other manifestations of religious expression in the public square.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - Furthermore, by supporting Islamofascists in this issue, you support: the subjugation of women and their treatment as chattel, forcing them to wear burqas, genital mutilation, arranged multiple marriages, stoning to death of women and gays, honor killings, murder of any apostate (who leaves Islam), and the replacement of our own Constitution with totalitarian Sharia law and forcing us to the level of 7th-century barbarism.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 next to Ground Zero should we ban those things as well? Besides there already is a mosque 4 blocks away from Ground Zero, how about we just ban that along with the 99 other mosque down in Manhattan. This argument is absurd! By the way its not even on Ground Zero, its two blocks away and its not even a damn mosque! Its a freakin community center! You guys stoke up more fake controversy than anyone I know. Grow the fuck up
Facebook289 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - SHUT UP, YOU ISLAMO-PANDERING FIFTH-COLUMN PIECE OF ANTI-AMERICAN DUNG. BY YOUR ATTITUDE YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF ISLAMO-TERRORISM AND OF ISLAMIC CONQUEST OF AMERICA. YOUR MORAL EQUIVALENCE IS SICKENING AND DISGUSTING. Have you heard the imam's "blame America" comments of a few years ago where he claimed we were worse than al Qaeda WHICH IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE - more Muslims were killed by radical Muslims than anyone else.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - What's more, these troublemaking radical Muslims' callous insensitivity to the 9/11 families stands in stark contrast to several years ago when Catholics wanted to build a convent in the area of the Nazi death camps in Auschwitz - and the uproar was so great that Pope John Paul II finally convinced the nuns to move their planned convent to another location, which they did.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - What's more, you are clearly engaging in a pointless, frivolous fishing expedition to try to hang anyone who stands up to your thuggish bullying tactics and sympathy for our enemies.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 As if Christians and Jews are no less guilty of that barbarity in Medieval times. Christians have been killing Christians, Muslims, and Jews for thousands of years and suddenly when its Muslims who do such its a different story? Its called radicalization of Islam same with Christians you ignoramus. Learn your history
Facebook289 10 months ago
@Facebook289 - Again, you lowlife, SHOVE IT with your moral equivalence and justification for Islamo-terrorist atrocities against the West, you America-hating, Jew-hating, Christophobic scum. Now it turns out it was the hated "waterboarding" that ultimately led to the killing of bin Laden. How do you like them there apples? And with the same techniques that Obama sought to kill off to appease the far-left, anti-American, pan-Islamist, Code Pinko "base."
wmbrown6 10 months ago
@ForeverMan96 - You are an absolute disgrace, because by what you espouse you are clearly on the side of the Islamo-terrorists who want to kill us all, convert all of the West to Islam, and impose totalitarian Sharia law around the world. Not to mention being a woman-hater - which Islam certainly is, based on their enslaving women in burqas. You don't give a rat's behind about our survival.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
Poor liberal.all he has is to yell and counter with conflicting aurgumentative speach. Same old story, This Woman trashes the fool...the DEBATE IS OVER!
THEMASTEROFYOU2000 1 year ago
@THEMASTEROFYOU2000 you talk about lawrence o`donnel. how about sean hannity.
russell1501 1 year ago
@russell1501 one of the major problems and could be the loss of America itself is this show boating and total disregard for reality all sides make for public consumption. There is and never has been one clear cut answer to almost anything besides math and chemistry....every issue has sides, opinions and truth to it mostly...what has made America great was the fact we could actually sit down and discuss things civilly..that is soon becoiming such a lost art.salesmen have taken over. sad but true
THEMASTEROFYOU2000 1 year ago
This woman is both hypocrite AND stupid!
If it's not torture, why not make it a common police practice??!!!
grozde 1 year ago
@grozde - To you, anyone who supports fighting against Islamo-terrorism is "stupid" and a "hypocrite." You are therefore on the side of Islamo-terrorists and are against fighting Islamo-terrorism. You would let Hezbollah or HAMAS or al Qaeda run roughshod over all of us rather than use whatever tools are needed to stop them.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6
To you, anyone who is against torture and for the rule of law is "Islamo-terrorist". You would resurrect the Medieval Inquisition, which trials, and stoning of disobedient children rather than follow the common sense and the law.
Does the above sound stupid and irrelevant to you? Well, that's how your claim sounds to me! ;-)
grozde 1 year ago
@grozde - Don't give me this "rule of law" business. That's to cover your own moral cowardice, weakness, and appeasement to radical Islam. What would you do if an illegal alien gangbanger burst your door down and wanted to rape your wife or your daughter - invite him over to tea? Ordinary people with common sense would do whatever it takes to protect their family. So it is with a nation (and a society) whose survival is hanging like a loose tooth.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6
Common people do a lot of things. The STATE, the GOVERNMENT, the POLICE, etc., MUST obey the rule of law!
If an "illegal alien gangbanger burst your door down and wanted to rape your wife or your daughter", when he's caught, he goes to COURT, he's not left at your mercy, is he???!!!
grozde 1 year ago
@grozde - Furthermore, I didn't hear you complaining about the "rule of law" or "common sense" when Islamo-terrorists tortured Daniel Pearl before brutally murdering him. Or did likewise to Nick Berg. The point is this, you have a "soft on Islamo-terrorism" attitude and sympathy for the Islamo-terrorists. They want to burn your door down and kill you and your family. Your namby-pambyism is what is endangering our survival.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
wmbrown6
That is why they are called TERRORISTS!!!
And that's precisely why they are despised world-wide!
grozde 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 opinion under advisement than a meager peon like you. Its not about what they do, its about what we do. We stoop down to their level it shows that we are no better than the enemies we fight. But I guess all you care about is to show that you can win a pissing contest without thinking shit through. How about you look up medieval history when those barbaric type of techniques were prevalent. Guess what? They only confessed because they were tortured. It doesn't actually show that they
Facebook289 1 year ago
Besides, I know where you got these talking points, you foul-mouthed degenerate: From your America-hating, jihad-loving, pot-smoking college professor who has sympathies for al Qaeda, HAMAS and Hezbollah, and would resist fighting Islamo-terrorism. The late Rabbi Meir Kahane once put it best: "I'd rather be at their [the Islamo-terrorists'] level, than be six feet under their level." You would rather - as well as rather we all - be six feet under the Islamo-terrorists' level, by your attitude.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - What's more, it's obvious you would rather that one of these Islamo-terrorists would place a dirty bomb in any of our major cities and kill millions (and wipe those cities off the map) than do whatever it takes to stop such a plot. You don't give a rat's behind about our survival, and are definitely pro-jihadist in your sympathies. Otherwise you wouldn't be talking like that. Your little world of theory does not work in the real world.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@Facebook289 - You are the real "meager peon" here. You think you know everything because you received all the leftist talking points from your America-hating leftist college professor that preaches sympathy for jihadists. You would obviously rather we be enslaved under sharia law, with no rights for women, blacks or gays, women enslaved in burqas, and civilization plunged into a thousand years of darkness - in short, total surrender to Islam.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@grozde - Let me remind you, also, that since your messiah Obama took office, Islamo-terror attacks on America have been going through the roof - the massacre at an Army recruiting center in Arkansas, the Fort Hood massacre, the "crotch bomber," the failed Times Square bomb plot, etc. I see you would rather have all that than do whatever it took to stop them before they started. Of course simple survival instinct is "stupid and irrelevant" to you, because you have a death wish for the country.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6
:-)) Yo've gone too far with the assumptions. I have no faith Obama - his main advantage is that he's not GW! What's more, I'm not even from the USA... ;-)
And if you honestly think that terrorists activate once you stop torturing them - you don't have the slightest idea about the world around you!!!
grozde 1 year ago
@grozde - That is what a lot of brain-dead people say ("Obama's not Bush"). That's no excuse, I have to add. I do live in the real world. You, however, like other Ivy League/ivory-tower pinheads, live in a world of theory, conjecture and hypothesis - and seek to bend the world's realities to suit your pet theories. Moreover, it was Islamo-terrorists who declared war on us via their murdering 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6
QED
grozde 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 guilty of any actual crime or that they extracted any actionable intelligence from doing that. They will say anything! Period point and blank. If you don't understand that then their is no point in talking to you period. Read up on the facts before you begin to spew out a bunch of crap from right wing hacks whose information they get out of their asses.
Facebook289 1 year ago
I'd love for her to get water-boarded if she thinks it's not torture. She is such a liar and a soul less bitch and she belongs away from society.
perrysafer 1 year ago
@perrysafer - You are therefore on the side of Islamo-terrorists who want to kill us all and impose Islamic sharia law on America and the West. You are an empty vessel for al Qaeda. Period, end of story. You don't care about our survival one bit.
wmbrown6 1 year ago
that devious bitch FEARS Lawrence O'Donnell
fashizze 1 year ago
Not Likely.
KiffenRoor 1 year ago
Scott Brown got elected because Hussein Obama and dems were soft on terrorists.
jmspflw 2 years ago
No, it wasn't. No moral absolutes with the Greek "thinkers."
jmspflw 2 years ago
happysmoke, if ignorance were terrorism, you'd be in Gitmo for life.
jmspflw 2 years ago
Liz gives the liberals a good thrashing and all they can do is talk over her. haha
Send all liberals to live under islamic rule.
jmspflw 2 years ago
islamic rule is just like christian rule. different messiah. Same bullshit. America is a secular country with a secular constitution.
HappysmokeSmoke 2 years ago
Western culture is Christian. USSR was secular, and that is where you're trying to take us.
jmspflw 2 years ago
Your lack of education and ignorance is outstanding. The United States of America is a secular country with a secular constitution. A constitution written by a man(Thomas Jefferson) who did not believe in Christianity and openly mocked it and called it the most perverted system known to man. The constitution guarantees us the right of separation of church and state. Which means that religious fanatics like your self cannot tell us how to live.
HappysmokeSmoke 2 years ago
Our founding fathers have already created a secular country. Have you even read the constitution or studied American history? Most of the founding fathers didn't believe in Christianity. You should read the constitution before making such stupid uneducated statements. FACTS OVER FAITH!!!
HappysmokeSmoke 2 years ago
happysmoke, you are so full of poppyseeds. Western culture is built on the Bible.
jmspflw 2 years ago
Sure western culture was built (in part) on the bible. Much more so though, in classical greek philosofy.
lorus87 2 years ago
The foundation of the Puritians was the Bible. And it was their influence that shaped the founders thoughts.
jmspflw 2 years ago
But all the christian theological and moral philosofy was based on the greek thinkers. Where would Thomas of Aquinas be if it had not been for Aritstoteles?
lorus87 2 years ago
as someone who has been water boarded it is torture iw ant to waterboard liz just for 1 min i can get er to admit to the sharon tape murders
jabraun00 2 years ago
this woman is a complete idiot.
abovefilms 2 years ago
that last comment by liz cheney was completely disingenuous... claiming that o'donnell said they should have waterboarded 500 when in fact he ASKED why dick cheney didnt want to waterboard those 500 known terrorists. liz cheney is a shill for her father, a joke to her country and a disgrace to her own conscience. how does someone like that sleep at night?
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago
Hey, Liz Cheney is cute!! I wish she would "water board" me. Hee, hee!!!
happy543210 2 years ago
Wow. Talk about twisting logic to suit an argument.. "It was ok because they did other bad things too". Riiight... It was torture. If The Cheneys would stop trying to make red look like blue then maybe they might not get dismissed as liars. Pretty messed up. Just own up to what you did and accept responsibility.
cyrusmartin 2 years ago
Wow, people who side with the, "Waterboarding is not torture because our own troops go through it" arguement must be swimming in ignorance.
The program which involves military waterboarding of American troops is one which PREPARES THEM FOR (you guessed it) TORTURE.
Just because you prefer a political party and despise their rivals does not mean your party is godly and immune from doing wrong.
aryien17 2 years ago
The Cheneys have never served in the military.
They are running scared.
newjersi08 2 years ago 2
neither has the obamas
thomasTANKbaber 2 years ago