Why the 700 club is wrong about so called New Atheism.

[DeaconVerter]

I watched the vid. Pathetic propaganda. Pat and Dinesh made the same mistakes that other theists do: They point to past evil atheistic regimes and ignore the many atheistic countries today that are doing great. They point to the Big Bang as supporting them but, beyond arguing from ignorance, don't they have any evidence more recent than 14 billion Yrs ago? "...but the new atheists are not content to defend unbelief..." How are you supposed to defend unbelief without criticizing religion?

[Mogley52]

THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM

[tupac4200]

Well said sir!

[over18irish]

someone needed to make this. Great job.

[Skepticktok]

@over18irish

Thanks.

[Skepticktok]

@over18irish

Thanks you. 

[davidblanchard84]

Great video! BTW I have read the book of second Sagan chapter 1 verse 420 which reads “A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.”

[davidblanchard84]

Great video! 

[songwriter4artists]

You claimed that atheism doesn't make any claims about morality, but that is totally untrue. I've heard atheists claim that they're more moral than Christians. That's a claim on morality, therefore, you are proven wrong. So if you lie about 1 thing you'll lie about other things as well. Lastly, militant atheists are on the buses running atheist campaigns, they're in the media, on the street corners, and have even built atheist conventions. So if that isn't Militant atheism I don know what is.

[Skepticktok]

@songwriter4artists

Atheism is either the belief that there are no gods or a lack of belief in gods. That is not a moral claim. If you are going to judge our ethics you should judge it based on something like Secular Humanism which does make claims and is something that many of us subscribe to.

I have to laugh at the claim that Atheist doing the things you describe are being "millitant." Christians, Jews, or even the local stamp collecting club doing the same thing are just "diligant."

[songwriter4artists]

@Skepticktok Apparently you lack good comprehension skills. You don't have to define atheism for me, the definition is so simple that everytime atheist keep redefining the term they sound even more petty. The moral claim that atheists make "WE ARE MORE MORAL THAN CHRISTIANS." Did you comprehend that? That is a moral claim made often by atheists. Now are you going to tell me what I didn't hear? I debate with atheists so I know what I'm talking about. Militant atheists are in the media.

[songwriter4artists]

No, but communism, although different than the meaning of atheism, is still based on the ideological grounds of atheism. And millions more people killed in genocides under the rule of the atheist regimes, well over the percentage killed in the name of religion. So, atheism had its share of history as well. It's interesting how atheists do all they can to deny that communism is based on an idea of atheism, but scholars seem to know best than the general public, so I believe the scholars. 

[Skepticktok]

@songwriter4artists

Again there is a distinct diffrence. Atheist are just as capable of violence as theist, nobody is arguing that they can't but it is not the same things as the violent jihads or crusades of theist. Again there is no universally recognized clergy or sacred texts that all secularist get their morality from...we can condemn Stalin and those like him without hypocricy.

[songwriter4artists]

@Skepticktok No sir, you are wrong again. You see, Mr. Adolf and his Nazis flew war planes and killed many people that way. He and his Nazis brought in captives, Jews and Christians particularly, and on top of that he murdered the Germans, his own people. So thank you for re-instating me. Atheists have their fair share in history. Finally, China is sn atheist state as far as the government and politics is involved. Nothing good comes out of atheism. So atheism is not a solution to either.

[Skepticktok]

@songwriter4artists

There's a diffrence between "I'm going to kill you because God wants me too" and "I'm going to kill you because I don't think there is a God." Again unlike the Bible and Qu'ran where there are passages that imply God approving violence, Atheism doesn't have a universally recognized moral authority to critique. Again I'm not saying that Atheist are always innocent, but we don't justify our violence with our lack of belief. That's a correlation/causation fallacy.

[songwriter4artists]

@Skepticktok How many times do I have to refute you? First, I brought forth historical evidence showing that atheism is madness, then I exposed your ignorance of what Militant Atheism is, and lastly I corrected you when you said atheists don't make a claim on morality, which is wrong on your part, because they always consider themselves moral, so that is a claim. Now I have to expose your lie again. We can have a 1 on 1 debate if you like on PALTALK (dot-com) a chat site with open mic.

[Mgopro]

@songwriter4artists Hitler was a confirmed atheist and had support from the vatican.

[MrRyanonymous]

@Mgopro Did you mean confirmed Christian?

[Mgopro]

@MrRyanonymous Yes I did. Thanks for that!

[neferiusnexus]

@songwriter4artists U Mad?

Here, maybe this'll make you feel better:goo.gl /LOQGK

And you know, theres a Reason why most tyrants try to abolish Religion

Its because it interferes with their own Cult of Personality where they are considered God

But making the assumption that ALL atheists are like that is just Silly

Lenin himself grew-up in a profoundly Christian household, his father having been a priest. Yet he abolished the Church not because he hated God, but because they supported the Czar.

[Demo5]

@songwriter4artist

Stalin (atheist) Totalitarian , Authoritarian Dictator = mass killings

Hitler (christian) Totalitarian , Authoritarian Dictator = mass killings

saddam Hussein (muslim) Totalitarian , Authoritarian Dictator = mass killings

Genghis Khan (Tengriism) Totalitarian , Authoritarian Dictator = mass killings

diffrent times, diffrent veiws on Religion yet something in commen that allowed them to order all those deaths

looking at that list can we see what it is !?....mustache...

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok Whale evolution has been more than turned on its head, it never existed. The so called transitional fossil that Richard Dawkins trotted out that supposedly evolved into the whale is actually a land mammal in the wolf family. The evolutionist's worldview is so distorted that to them, when the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok No, actually there is strong evidence to support the purpose for the human appendix. It is believed to be an organ that stores the healthy floral bacteria, or probiotics, and releases them to the gut after a bout of illness to replenish the ones that were destroyed by whichever microbe or virus that attacked the immune system. The Bible says we are fearfully and wonderfully made, so this shows God would not equip us with unnecessary organs.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok Vestigial organs once hailed as proof of our evolutionary past, are simply parts of the body, until recently whose purposes were unknown to medical science. As science progressed they discovered the functions for each of them. A hundred years ago, the human body had approximately 106 so called vestigial organs, as of 2011 there are none. I also have a link for this fact but unfortunately it got blocked as well.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory

The human appendix I believe is still considered vestigial, especially considering how less neccicery it is for us compared to the other primates. We can operate just fine (sometimes better) when it's taken out.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok That intermediate progression of whales video by Dawkins has already long been discredited. I tried to post the link about Dawkin's flawed assumptions, but the system won't allow me for some reason.

Dawkins can also be seen on a video on here at a loss for words when asked by a member of the audience to cite just one example of a mutation that adds new genetic material as a result of the changes created.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory

Whale evolution has been turned on it's head? That's news to me and most other people interested in Marine Biology and Prehistoric life? Do have any explanation for why a god would make these animals with femural bones, horizontally oriented tail fins, and fins with finger like bones if he intended them to be aquatic from the very start. It's like he's trying to trick us into believing in evolution.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok You are 100% correct, abiogenesis has not and cannot be disproven simply because of the way it is presented. Abiogenesis always begins with the question, how did basic life forms, such as single celled organisms, evolve into the more complex ones? You see what's going on here? Evolutionists purposely skip the more obvious question, how did life begin, to avoid mentioning spontaneous generation, a theory that has been discredited. More scientific smoke and mirrors.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory

I'm no expert on Abiogenesis DonExodus or Thunderfoot could probably do a better job of explaining things to you then I could. That being said, again I don't think that not having all the answers means that we have to explain things with the supernatural. One of my first videos is related to the God of the gaps idea and what my problem with it is. The correct answer is "we don't know." Even so evolution itself, once life got started has strong evidence.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok Evolutionists like to play this shell game with the terms "transitional" and "intermediate" fossils. A transitional form is the evolution from a wolf to a domestic dog. They are both still dogs. Those types of fossils are abundant. What evolutionists don't have are intermediate fossils, one species evolving into an entirely new species. Those simply don't exist.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory As I mentioned before the way the intermediate/transitional history of the whale family is farely well understood by scientest. I don't always like Dawkins tone but he's spot in his "Intermediate whale fossils video that's on Youtube." I was just at Los Angeles Museum of Natural History with my friend this week looking at a whale skeleton and I pointed out some of the vestigial bones to him.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok Macro-evolution requires new genetic information to be added at each progressive stage. Richard Dawkins was asked to cite one example he's observed of this phenomenon occurring and he sat there in stunned silence, stumped and speechless. The video of this incident can be seen playing on Youtube right now. Macro-evolution is a 19th century theory that was destroyed by 20th century science.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok Atheist scientists seem to want it both ways. They label ID and creationism as unscientific but continue to teach the forerunner of the theory of evolution, abiogenesis primordial soup model, a science that was disproven hundreds of years ago. They also downplay the insurmountable problems of macro-evolution and the questions concerning the big bang theory as well. A paper plate has a designer but the cosmos does not.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory

1. Macroevolution isn't an insurmountable problem. It's simply the cumulitive result of eons of "micro" evolution. It's suppourted in the fossil record by the precence of transitional forms. The whales turning aquatic is a good example.

2. Abiogenesis hasn't been disproved but even if we don't have all the answers we need not explain things with magic.

3. I can go to a plate factory if I want. Yet nobody can take me to God's cosmos factory. Instead I'm told to have faith.

[theabiotictheory]

@Skepticktok I didn't see the 700 club video so I can't directly comment on it. What the new atheism means to me though is their tendency to use the courts to silence dissent. Both evolution and the big bang theory have serious flaws, yet the new atheists use the force of law to exclude creationism and intelligent design from the classroom as if there was no evidence whatsoever to support it.

[Skepticktok]

@theabiotictheory

The reason "new atheist" attempt to keep Scientific creationism and ID out of schools is that they aren't scientific. They don't present the standards by which they can be falsified and basically rely on faith based claims. If Biblical Creationism is allowed in classrooms (because we can't emperically prove that the supernatural doesn't exist) then one can make the case that many of the worlds other creation and flood myths and deities also belong in classrooms/\.

[Chuck1863]

Don't forget that the atheist dictators of the 20th century were not the leaders of atheist countries. Most of their people did believe in gods, including most of their soldiers who did most of the actual killing. So if atheism is to be blamed for those dictators' orders, religions must accept the blame for most of the actual killing. That's nearly another 100 million deaths directly caused by religion.

[pernch]

Every time I see Pat Robertson's face I just wanna gouge my eyes out. I also want to stick pencils in my ears because I know that pure horseshit is about to spew forth from his anal crease of a mouth. And once again, he hasn't failed to deliver.