VICTORIA STATION - NOTTINGHAM - Death of a Station - HD

[DANST92]

0:00 where abouts is tht i live in nottingham but can't remmber where it is ?

[D1LENGER]

@DANST92

the entrance is (was) opposite shakespeare street, near the YMCA and the old juvenile court called sandfield house. halfords used to have a shop there.

i used to play in that old abandoned station before it was made into the bus station, also the station at the bottom of sherwood rise, gregory boulevard junction. it's now the home of the open university.

good days, good memories.

(i re-posted this due to an inaccuracy)

[barry8472]

Sad to see a fine station go. Where i live was a station called Gosport. It was artistic and one of a kind. Now its a set of houses and the line is a cycle track!

[tobythesuperfasttram]

damn you beeching

[bluevan12]

The trouble with the GCR there were very few large areas of Population south of Leicester which may explain why passenger numbers were low especially in the final years.

[xesionprince]

This was from a time when Nottingham was a proud English city. Now it is a multi-cultural hell-hole.  How sad - this is enough to bring tears to your eyes!

[MANTLEBERG]

I LIVE HERE IN THIS GIANT BLACK HOLE, WHERE THE COUNCIL WASTE MONEY ON ROAD SCHEMES JUST TO GET RID OF MONEY, WHEN I RETIRE IM GOING AS FAR AWAY FROM THIS JUNTA RUN CITY RUN BY THE YARDIES AND PAKISTANIS, THE CITY IS A TOTAL DISGRACE, IM ASHAMED TO LIVE HERE, YET THE COUNCIL MOTTO IS "PROUD" WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS.

[Strawberry7Lynn]

Go to 2:28 & you'll see Captain Manwaring with a glass of whisky!

[Simon19840616]

Where the black and asians on this movie ?

[ManlnCognito]

@Simon19840616 and the chavs

[russianpostman]

I think if they were losing money on the lines well they should have preserved them for future use at least as inevitivably road traffic grew more and more of a problem. I think it was rather short sighted and here's an example: I noticed with the closure of a large proportion of the lines, the freight continued on the line for about a year - then it was shifted onto the roads. Why? makes no long term sense i think.

[TheLozzer56]

They pulled down the wrong station! Victoria was much better than Midland!!

[Albanwinter]

"Oh, what's this big beautiful building doing here?! We must tear it down and do something modern and uninteresting in it's place!"

[triand43]

what a hideous awful monstrosity they built in place of this lovely old station, you would have thought they would at least have built somthing that was inkeeping with the clock tower.

[madmax200769]

Shots of 70013 appear to be at Derby

[AustinSomerset]

Looks like a great video. I saw the "Big hole in the Ground" outside the bus station back in '93 - It was clean of any vegetation at that time. I could not believe when I read up on it what a waste of a good rail line it was. How Ironic that the Government now want to build a High Speed Rail Line through the country - when we already had one with the Great Central. Madness.

[alexthemod1]

Simples! The one and only Colin Bower.

This is not my own youtube id I am signed in with, but Colin is a former colleague of mine from Radio Trent

[simonjharrisson]

Haha who can remember this voice on Radio Trent???

[MrStan1941]

was anyone ever charged for this crime???

[thisdudesacoolguy]

i can remeber when i was about 10 years old lived in saint anns just of shelton street about 5 minuets walk from this station ...mum used to take me and my brother and buy a platform ticked have tea and watch the steam trains all afternoon.... fond memories ...then they pulled it down a few years later nottingham planners .......couldent plan ...you know what

[pennyf9]

thats why us railfans hate people that would tear down a station, and replace it with modern concrete green eyesores! What a buetiful station, does the clock in the tower even work?

[jackiejayetv]

Industrial vandalism nothing more,as for that basterd Beeching.another Himmler!

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jackiejayetv To be fair, the railways were losing an awful lot of money which we simply couldn't afford to be losing, and something needed to be done - otherwise the whole system could've collapsed!

Anyway, Beeching was only part of the story - the real villain was possibly Ernest Marples. He was Minister of Transport but he also owned a road building company - that wouldn't be allowed today for obvious reasons! Beeching didn't have the power to close lines, only to RECOMMEND closures.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jackiejayetv Interestingly, Beeching refused to close Manea Station in Cambridgeshire because of 'the acute social hardship it would cause' - ironically, it only has two trains a day in each direction now, so it probably wouldn't be missed much if it WAS closed!

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jackiejayetv Might I point out that Beeching left in 1965, whereas the Great Central was closed in 1966!

Many actually reckoned it should never have been built in the first place, because the network was already quite well developed by then and there was really no need for another main line - that's what happens when you have so many different railway companies competing with each other!

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jackiejayetv If you need any proof of the Great Central being surplus to requirements, look at Marylebone Station. It was planned to have up to 10 platforms, but the cost of building the line was so great that it started with just four, with the anticipation that the rest would be built later. They never were - for the simple reason that the traffic just never developed!

[jamestheengine]

@Inkyminkyzizwoz

Yes But No But Yes! What a Great Freight Diversonary Route It Would Have Made(Built To The Berne Gauge)

And Yes Beeching Actually Reccomended Lines That The Other Mid-Sixites Basterd H Wilson Did.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jamestheengine Ah, but the key word is RECOMMENDED - Beeching didn't have the power to actually close lines! The real villain was probably Ernest Marples - having a Minister of Transport who also happened to own a road building company was never going to be a good idea, in fact it wouldn't even be allowed today for obvious reasons!

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jamestheengine Look at the way the network developed - it was very haphazard when you think about it. We had all sorts of different companies building lines to compete with each other rather than because they were following any structured plan, with the result that it took until about 1850 onwards for them to merge and the network to really take shape!

Because of all this competition, we had a lot more lines than we needed and something needed to be done.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jamestheengine While the Great Central Main Line was far-sighted in being built to the Continental loading gauge with no level crossings, it was also built a bit too late - when all the other main lines were already well-established. The Great Central found it very difficult to compete with its better established rivals which was why the traffic never developed. Had it been built 20 or 30 years earlier, before the other lines had established themselves, it might possibly have done better.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@jamestheengine You have to admit, a significant portion of the Great Central was effectively a duplicate of the Midland Main Line. Sometimes duplication of lines can be useful, but at others it can be little more than overkill. Even at the time the Great Central was built many people reckoned it wasn't necessary because there were already enough main lines into London, but the company wanted their own rather than agree any sort of joint working with another company.

[ludwigvonsteampole1]

Look at that a fantastic train station that delivers you right into the middle of the city. So what do they do? Knock it down and replace it with a sterile concrete eyesore!!

[MiLLwallpaul231258]

good old dr beeching........should've been strung up by his bollocks

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@MiLLwallpaul231258 To be fair, the way the network grew up with so many companies competing with each other meant that there was a lot of over-provision and many cities had two or three main stations when they weren't really needed.

At one time I used to think Beeching was a demon too, but I've since come to realise that he was trying to rationalise the system. After all, it was making huge losses that we simply couldn't afford - especially in the aftermath of WWII.

[mrmagicroundcircle]

used to get pissed up yates wine lodge

[soundnicetome]

Just another example of past goverment knee jerk decisions ,mainly to destroy our heritage.From the sixties,this was going on all over our country,and has been ever since,as the Lunatics are running the ayslum....so sad !!

[fotasmic]

Why does this video about Nottingham Victoria suddenly jump to clips about Grantham and then Derby??

[stevedn1]

This wasn't any act of so-called "progress". It was murder by rubbish politicians of all main parties and in fact this main line was actually closed by a so-called "Labour" Government. We are a poorer country for not having this today.

[MOHAAVIDEO]

was oliver cromwell ever saved from the scrapyard?

[Chafford1]

@MOHAAVIDEO Yes and operating on the Main Line today - plenty of clips on You Tube,

[dazzling51]

Great to see! the flats were terrible to live in too! i had one!!

[signalnorth]

And this is supposedly progress.

[4beatlefans]

OMG, just a look at al that hideous 'modern' stuff violating the beauty of the classic clock tower. Nice vid though - well done.

[MK55A]

they should blow up that shopping centre and put the GC back, then we'll get some of the big lorries of the road, now thats being 'green' isn't it....by the way perfect footage and a excellent film..... 55A

[chrs168]

Just look at the concrete and glass crap they've got attached to the clock tower now.

Such a shame it's now a car park instead of the great station it once was.

Thank you for posting this video. Great memories.

[richardsnow]

Superb clear footage of Vic Station. thanks.

[porter6669196327]

I Have Been Next To Mansfield Road Tunnel Today