when i tried judo i remember the armbar they tought me was different...one leg over the neck...the other leg not over the chest...but pushing on the armpit...and thats what i see in judo competitions...ohters say its just the same...no its not...judo armbar requires less pressure
@netpolice151 well they are both still armbars but the one you are talking about makes it difficult and nearly impossible (if the guy performing the armbar is good) to whats called bridge out of it, because your food it wedged in pretty well behind there back (arm pit area works to i believe) then it is rediculously difficult to get out of the armbar - your reply to mine caught me off gaurd lol that last comment of mine was from forever ago, lots of awesome judo sense then
(response to broomeblocker3) theres only one type of judo kodokan (i think thats how tis spelt) at the dojo i go to we train alot in newaza, i havnt been in a tournment but iv watched quiet a few, the ones iv been to scoring wise i agree, the judges love the throws, but if you can get the other guy to tap, then thats it, or if you can have them pinned for 30 seconds thats it, theres a lot of bjj in judo, i personally think of judo as pretty much bjj with more stand up (just my opinion)
BJJ was taken from judo. Gracie took the Newaza and katame waza and started bjj where they basically only train in ground fighting. judo is newaza and katame waza and nage waza it is more complete
the way points are awarded makes your last statement pointless, even if what you said has some truth. Bjj evolved from ancient judo, which had less emphasis on throws and more ground than now. Now judo is 95% throws 5% ground. Where Bjj focuses on submissions and taking a advantage through some positions (back, mount etc) a throw give points but does not award imediat victory.
@LordShandor i'm ok with your second and third affirmation but not the first: even if he removed technicks that he deemed to dangerous, Kano's judo originaly included a lot more than what is now taught in dojos, and is even further from what is shown at olympic games.
@LordShandor strictly speaking it can't, but in the 150 years of history judo hs, the last decade saw a lot of changes which make 1860 seem faaar away :p
I practice a martial art that's barely in his 30's so 1860 are even more ancient ;)
Originally the throwing technique was intended to take down the opponent with the minimal need for strength. The next part was the smooth transition to ground work or Newaza which is really the business end of Judo. Simply hold, strangle, choke or arm lock your opponent while he/she is virtually helpless on the ground. The swift transition from throwing or 'take downs' straight into ground work is the central idea behind both Randori (Standing) and Newaza (Ground).
all of you stop argueing judo is for throws. BJJ is for grappleing stop crying dont replay to this saying iam idiot that doesnt know what hes doing because your prob judo person if u think tht its true and you know it so stop crying and do both of them if it bothers you
umm Judo does consist of majority throws, but it also has grappling and submissions like BJJ because BJJ came from original Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Judo, so yeah.
wow arnt you the man of all knowledge of coruse i know that if i do it. Iam just saying i hate people who try to act like there martial is the best thing going rather then do a varitey thats why i do mma stop crying you lil bitches and do mma
Actually Judo is both for ground and throws. But you are right up to a certain point since nowadays most judo clubs seem to focus on stand up since they train for Olympic Judo. But search for Judo Newaza grappling International right here on YouTube to see that certain clubs train for fights that can only be won by submission. The throw does not give you victory like in Olympic Judo, ground work does.
So while it's often true that Judo = Throws and BJJ = Ground. It's not always the case.
I know alot more about both judo and BJJ since i said that comment a year ago. And yeah i agree with what your saying, but i never knew there were judo clubs that focused purely on submisson.
Id still go to judo for throws and BJJ for submissions though.
noooo....i used to think judo was mainly just throws and stuff and bjj was just for grappleing but i found out i was wrong. Which is why i said i was sorry about it so why cant you just leave it at that.
...Also, in that time period... just as Kung Fu was universally used to for Chinese Martial Arts.. JJ was used generically for japanese martial arts...
And for the record, I'm a BJJ practioner.. .and having nothing to do with Judo or no motive to defend it other than maintaining the reality of truth of martial arts...
[I did do Judo as a child.. age 7 or 8 roughly.. but not for long, and I can't remember learning anything!]
I agree, but u do realize that not only that BJJ came from Japanese Jujitsu, but that Japanese Jujitsu itself orginated from Chinese Chin Na, which is the Chinese grappling/wrestling style?
Jujitsu was created after a Chinese Chin Na pratictioner moved to Japan during the Ming Dynasty and influenced and taught the Japanese the Chinese way of grappling, which eventually resulted in Jujitsu after the Japanese modified it in their own way.
The reason he ended up calling it Jiu-jitsu though, I belive, is that Jiu-Jitsu is the name for the 'gentle art' of japan which emphasizes weight distribution, pressure points and using the opponent's weight/energy against him... - and this is what Mitsuyo was trying to incorporate into his style. (Having said that Traditional Jap Jiujitsu, like Judo, is not one-dimensional.. and includes striking + standup.... but it's just not heavily emphasized or effective!).
You do all realize that BJJ's core roots are actually in Judo, not so much Japanese Jiu-Jitsu.
Judo does actually have a ground game, it's just not heavily emphasized... (it does exist though and is called 'Ne Waza', I believe).
It was a Japanese Judoka, Mitsuyo Maeda, who was a pioneer in Judo + a No-Holds-Barred fighter. He ended up in Brazil, the Gracies helped him settle - he taught them Judo, including Ne Waza... then the modification began.
When the fighter on the bottom sprawls to defend against the armbar, all you need to do is grab his heel and flip him over using you legs on his chest as a fulcrum. You then just reversed it and can no go about breaking his grip or going for a triangle choke
Judo has its own merits, but really, saying that BJJ and Judo are even remotely equivalent is to mean that I should expect to be taught BJJ style ground work when I go to a judo class. We all know what level of judo you need to attain to start scratching that surface. In my own experience a newby at both martial arts would take about 10 years to get a black belt. A competitive judo black belt practitioner would need about 6 or 7.
Judoman98 reminds me of the Tiger Vs Lion people posting fights and selling his story about who wins and why. To my point- Kosen who? Where is this Kosen fellow?, and how many fights has he had?- I cant find his stats anywhere- I do see several Gracie stats though, Kimura stats, et al. Kosen? lol. Yes I have Kosens also- They visit during holidays.:)
yeah, but bjj now has more evolved techniques, judo is still base on kodokan syllabus, the only innovator is mike swain for his ground grappling but compare his stuff to eddie bravo's innovations, its like comparing a mazda rx8 to a dodge viper,, dodge viper being eddie of course
judo was taken DIRECTLY from jujitsu.ANY ground work that is in judo came from jujitsu.traditional jujitsu is NOT nearly as different as u think from bjj no matter what any1 tells you. there r plenty of ground moves in judo its just that for some reason they frown on them in contest even though they are legal.because of that,many judo dojos will not focus alot on the ground game.just like alot of jujitsu dojos will not focus on alot of stand up although there is plenty of it in jujitsu.
no,u cannot say that bjj was based on judo.u can if u want to spread false info.look im not against judo or bjj,but the FACT remains,judo was developed by jigoro kano at about 1884. before this he was a hardcore jujitsu student who ate and breathed jujitsu.his techniques were taken from jujitsu.modifying some.any choke,armbar,knee lock etc, from ANY system has a father called jujitsu.
>before this he was a hardcore jujitsu student who ate and breathed jujitsu.
I believe that BJJ nowadays is quite different from the one he breathed. Many techniques have evolved.
I do not see a point in the discussion of what came first egg or chicken. I like both BJJ and Judo. Last weekend I was compiting at GQ in NJ, yesterday I had 8 judo fights at state open. If you are good - you are good at both. Well, and if you are not - what's the difference in the way you call it...
bjj is judo. don't get judo mixed up with sport judo, but actuall pre WW2 judo. also to see some great fights judo vs bjj how's about hidehiko yoshida vs. royce gracie? or kimura vs. gracie? how's about someone out their tell me a fight to watch that has a bjj guy taking on someone of merit(i.e. not the hand picked by the gracie's one boxing glove wearin type of fools from the first couple of ufc's)
Actually there were many fights aside from the ones you mentioned- Renzo Gracie Ben Spykers for one- Many Judo players have done their homework- That Turtle/wrestlers position they always went to was the main flaw in strategy that got them hammered in MMA by BJJ guys early on.- They've caught on- however the rules still favor BJJ as they have more options
judo guys and bjj are the same on the ground...bjj is kosen judo...too bad they don't put gold medalist judo guys vs top jui jitsu guys..they wouldnt stand a chance in hell
well i wouldnt say the same?. ive done judo and its mostly a stand up game. you really cant compare the 2 sports and say who will win over the other?. i think bjj is better on the ground.
dude..bjj is 1/3 judo....the real good judo guys know there ground ...trust me....bjj cuz are no doubt great on the ground..but u gotta get em there. If u took judo u know when the oppenent is thrown, they are valnarable to submissions, hold downs etc etc quite easily. bjj moves are already in judos arsenal..but u cant say the same vice versa
I'm not saying judo guys don't know their ground work. the training in ground work is much different in judo and bjj. you know that already and rules are different. mike swain who was giving the seminar was getting schooled by jonh frankle (black belt fr: bj penn) on the ground. mike swain is a great judo practitioner from what i hear. you really cant compare the two sports and say who is better than who.
Judo is 2/3 traditional jujitsu. Judo came from Jujitsu. So did BJJ. Royce messed up yoshidas (olympic gold medalist) face. And royce wouldnt stand a chance vs. top notch bjj guys. You cant call Judo a fight.. But bjj is war.
haha..sure it is...japanese jui jitsu is way different then bjj. traditional jui jitsu are not groud fighters. call bjj what u want but is watered down even more, do the math..lol And Royce in a street fight would probably beat most bjj guys
what do you mean watered down?.. bjj has techniques made for ground "fighting" a lot of new techniques have been developed in bjj. the 2 sports are both respectivley different. how can you say bjj is watered down?. stop hating on bjj LOL ^^
ok fair enough i dont know why i said alot of the stuff i said a year ago, it was more to due with the fact i was annoyed with people who just do 1 martial and say its the best. no martial art is the best its best to do a variety
id say ju jitsu is the best lol, it trains ground, take downs, boxing, kick boxing, defensive and offensive. its a complete martial art which was used and respected in battle so yeh id say ju jistu may be one of the best martial arts you could do
3 moves!!! You gotta be an uneducated retard that has never been introduced to any type of martial arts... No judo guy would stand a chance against bjj guys... like a bjj guy would have alot of trouble against high level judo guys while standing up...
Actually not really, most of the stuff BJJ uses is in Judo. Competition judo has ruined Judo. They give an ippon(instant win) for nearly any throw nowadays. Which stops the amount of ground fighting they do, so they basically don't train it as much. Kodokan judo has a stricter scoring system. You can get good judoka's on the ground, I am sure there are good BJJ guys that can actually fight standing up, never seen one, but I am sure they are out there
dude go to a judo gym they teach the exact same shit. my gym does judo and bjj ive done both and now i only do judo considering half of the time in the judo training we do newaza randori (you do that the whole time in bj). i have my purple in bjj and my green in judo and almost all of the technique i learnt in judo was the same in bjj only difference was learing different guards and alot more deffensive ground work, judo if your not good enough to finish on the ground quickly u get stood up
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noose357 1 year ago
when i tried judo i remember the armbar they tought me was different...one leg over the neck...the other leg not over the chest...but pushing on the armpit...and thats what i see in judo competitions...ohters say its just the same...no its not...judo armbar requires less pressure
netpolice151 2 years ago
@netpolice151 well they are both still armbars but the one you are talking about makes it difficult and nearly impossible (if the guy performing the armbar is good) to whats called bridge out of it, because your food it wedged in pretty well behind there back (arm pit area works to i believe) then it is rediculously difficult to get out of the armbar - your reply to mine caught me off gaurd lol that last comment of mine was from forever ago, lots of awesome judo sense then
Winterburn02 1 year ago
(response to broomeblocker3) theres only one type of judo kodokan (i think thats how tis spelt) at the dojo i go to we train alot in newaza, i havnt been in a tournment but iv watched quiet a few, the ones iv been to scoring wise i agree, the judges love the throws, but if you can get the other guy to tap, then thats it, or if you can have them pinned for 30 seconds thats it, theres a lot of bjj in judo, i personally think of judo as pretty much bjj with more stand up (just my opinion)
Winterburn02 2 years ago
BJJ was taken from judo. Gracie took the Newaza and katame waza and started bjj where they basically only train in ground fighting. judo is newaza and katame waza and nage waza it is more complete
danjack17 2 years ago
the way points are awarded makes your last statement pointless, even if what you said has some truth. Bjj evolved from ancient judo, which had less emphasis on throws and more ground than now. Now judo is 95% throws 5% ground. Where Bjj focuses on submissions and taking a advantage through some positions (back, mount etc) a throw give points but does not award imediat victory.
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
@laokon There is no such thing as ancient Judo. Judo and Bjj derived from Samurai Jujutsu. Judo is a sport application of the techniques.
LordShandor 1 month ago
@LordShandor i'm ok with your second and third affirmation but not the first: even if he removed technicks that he deemed to dangerous, Kano's judo originaly included a lot more than what is now taught in dojos, and is even further from what is shown at olympic games.
regards
laokon 1 month ago
@laokon Agreed, however my 1st point is that 1860 is hardly considered ancient.
LordShandor 1 month ago
@LordShandor strictly speaking it can't, but in the 150 years of history judo hs, the last decade saw a lot of changes which make 1860 seem faaar away :p
I practice a martial art that's barely in his 30's so 1860 are even more ancient ;)
regards ^^
laokon 1 month ago
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noose357 1 year ago
Originally the throwing technique was intended to take down the opponent with the minimal need for strength. The next part was the smooth transition to ground work or Newaza which is really the business end of Judo. Simply hold, strangle, choke or arm lock your opponent while he/she is virtually helpless on the ground. The swift transition from throwing or 'take downs' straight into ground work is the central idea behind both Randori (Standing) and Newaza (Ground).
gbvb79 3 years ago
all of you stop argueing judo is for throws. BJJ is for grappleing stop crying dont replay to this saying iam idiot that doesnt know what hes doing because your prob judo person if u think tht its true and you know it so stop crying and do both of them if it bothers you
DoomCatcher 4 years ago
umm Judo does consist of majority throws, but it also has grappling and submissions like BJJ because BJJ came from original Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Judo, so yeah.
lilflip6920 3 years ago
wow arnt you the man of all knowledge of coruse i know that if i do it. Iam just saying i hate people who try to act like there martial is the best thing going rather then do a varitey thats why i do mma stop crying you lil bitches and do mma
DoomCatcher 3 years ago
I second your comment as well as would like to add that this is Mike Swain a world class olympic judo fighter...
fireems343 3 years ago
Actually Judo is both for ground and throws. But you are right up to a certain point since nowadays most judo clubs seem to focus on stand up since they train for Olympic Judo. But search for Judo Newaza grappling International right here on YouTube to see that certain clubs train for fights that can only be won by submission. The throw does not give you victory like in Olympic Judo, ground work does.
So while it's often true that Judo = Throws and BJJ = Ground. It's not always the case.
KingColliwog 3 years ago
I know alot more about both judo and BJJ since i said that comment a year ago. And yeah i agree with what your saying, but i never knew there were judo clubs that focused purely on submisson.
Id still go to judo for throws and BJJ for submissions though.
DoomCatcher 3 years ago
I'd agree with your choices, in most clubs it would be the best decision.
In the end judo and BJJ are basically the same thing anyway
KingColliwog 3 years ago
You're a noob, and what you wrote a year ago was ignorant. I'd break your fucking arm in judo.
GameDominator90 3 years ago
if you actualy read my other comment tht was 4 months ago. I had apologised for my comment now that i had learnt more about both BJJ and Judo..
DoomCatcher 3 years ago
Good, but it's pathetic that you would lie so ignorantly in the first place
GameDominator90 3 years ago
noooo....i used to think judo was mainly just throws and stuff and bjj was just for grappleing but i found out i was wrong. Which is why i said i was sorry about it so why cant you just leave it at that.
DoomCatcher 3 years ago
Very well, thy seem to have understood thy miserable mistake, I shall forgive thy.
GameDominator90 3 years ago
Id still say tho even tho they both have a mixture that judo is still mainly more for throws and bjj for ground grappleing
DoomCatcher 3 years ago
Yes, Judo is mainly for throws, but still has a heavy amount of submissions.
GameDominator90 3 years ago
BJJ is Judo newaza, BJJ is mostly a sham. In fact, if it wasn't for a translation error, it would be called brazilian judo
maxbigwood 2 years ago
...Also, in that time period... just as Kung Fu was universally used to for Chinese Martial Arts.. JJ was used generically for japanese martial arts...
And for the record, I'm a BJJ practioner.. .and having nothing to do with Judo or no motive to defend it other than maintaining the reality of truth of martial arts...
[I did do Judo as a child.. age 7 or 8 roughly.. but not for long, and I can't remember learning anything!]
homegrownhero 4 years ago
I agree, but u do realize that not only that BJJ came from Japanese Jujitsu, but that Japanese Jujitsu itself orginated from Chinese Chin Na, which is the Chinese grappling/wrestling style?
Jujitsu was created after a Chinese Chin Na pratictioner moved to Japan during the Ming Dynasty and influenced and taught the Japanese the Chinese way of grappling, which eventually resulted in Jujitsu after the Japanese modified it in their own way.
DJFistOfCurry 4 years ago
The reason he ended up calling it Jiu-jitsu though, I belive, is that Jiu-Jitsu is the name for the 'gentle art' of japan which emphasizes weight distribution, pressure points and using the opponent's weight/energy against him... - and this is what Mitsuyo was trying to incorporate into his style. (Having said that Traditional Jap Jiujitsu, like Judo, is not one-dimensional.. and includes striking + standup.... but it's just not heavily emphasized or effective!).
homegrownhero 4 years ago
You do all realize that BJJ's core roots are actually in Judo, not so much Japanese Jiu-Jitsu.
Judo does actually have a ground game, it's just not heavily emphasized... (it does exist though and is called 'Ne Waza', I believe).
It was a Japanese Judoka, Mitsuyo Maeda, who was a pioneer in Judo + a No-Holds-Barred fighter. He ended up in Brazil, the Gracies helped him settle - he taught them Judo, including Ne Waza... then the modification began.
homegrownhero 4 years ago
When the fighter on the bottom sprawls to defend against the armbar, all you need to do is grab his heel and flip him over using you legs on his chest as a fulcrum. You then just reversed it and can no go about breaking his grip or going for a triangle choke
spyderdude42 4 years ago
You guys seriously need to chill.
EvilMetsFan 4 years ago
Judo has its own merits, but really, saying that BJJ and Judo are even remotely equivalent is to mean that I should expect to be taught BJJ style ground work when I go to a judo class. We all know what level of judo you need to attain to start scratching that surface. In my own experience a newby at both martial arts would take about 10 years to get a black belt. A competitive judo black belt practitioner would need about 6 or 7.
mekoka 5 years ago
read my comments, mate. for your own enlightenment
homegrownhero 4 years ago
Judoman98 reminds me of the Tiger Vs Lion people posting fights and selling his story about who wins and why. To my point- Kosen who? Where is this Kosen fellow?, and how many fights has he had?- I cant find his stats anywhere- I do see several Gracie stats though, Kimura stats, et al. Kosen? lol. Yes I have Kosens also- They visit during holidays.:)
BobBelson 5 years ago
yeah, but bjj now has more evolved techniques, judo is still base on kodokan syllabus, the only innovator is mike swain for his ground grappling but compare his stuff to eddie bravo's innovations, its like comparing a mazda rx8 to a dodge viper,, dodge viper being eddie of course
phaze88 5 years ago
judo was taken DIRECTLY from jujitsu.ANY ground work that is in judo came from jujitsu.traditional jujitsu is NOT nearly as different as u think from bjj no matter what any1 tells you. there r plenty of ground moves in judo its just that for some reason they frown on them in contest even though they are legal.because of that,many judo dojos will not focus alot on the ground game.just like alot of jujitsu dojos will not focus on alot of stand up although there is plenty of it in jujitsu.
johnnysuchi 5 years ago
well, one can say that bjj is based _directly on judo ;-)
Guess what phaze88 meant was that BJJ is growing fast and, since it is ground fight focused, a lot of new techniques were developed and mastered.
toivanvr 5 years ago
no,u cannot say that bjj was based on judo.u can if u want to spread false info.look im not against judo or bjj,but the FACT remains,judo was developed by jigoro kano at about 1884. before this he was a hardcore jujitsu student who ate and breathed jujitsu.his techniques were taken from jujitsu.modifying some.any choke,armbar,knee lock etc, from ANY system has a father called jujitsu.
johnnysuchi 5 years ago
>before this he was a hardcore jujitsu student who ate and breathed jujitsu.
I believe that BJJ nowadays is quite different from the one he breathed. Many techniques have evolved.
I do not see a point in the discussion of what came first egg or chicken. I like both BJJ and Judo. Last weekend I was compiting at GQ in NJ, yesterday I had 8 judo fights at state open. If you are good - you are good at both. Well, and if you are not - what's the difference in the way you call it...
toivanvr 5 years ago
bjj is judo. don't get judo mixed up with sport judo, but actuall pre WW2 judo. also to see some great fights judo vs bjj how's about hidehiko yoshida vs. royce gracie? or kimura vs. gracie? how's about someone out their tell me a fight to watch that has a bjj guy taking on someone of merit(i.e. not the hand picked by the gracie's one boxing glove wearin type of fools from the first couple of ufc's)
amazingjames311 5 years ago
Actually there were many fights aside from the ones you mentioned- Renzo Gracie Ben Spykers for one- Many Judo players have done their homework- That Turtle/wrestlers position they always went to was the main flaw in strategy that got them hammered in MMA by BJJ guys early on.- They've caught on- however the rules still favor BJJ as they have more options
BobBelson 5 years ago
I saw it printed jiujitsu on that teacher's back
MTXBJJboy 5 years ago
lol! he borrowed the bjj teachers gi! thats why
kimchiR6 5 years ago
Thanks for sharing, I know what I did wrong now.
winston618 5 years ago
no problem! this works great in bjj too! ive done it to a few of my classmates ^^
kimchiR6 5 years ago
Yes, judo and bjj are very similar, bjj is tough better in the ground but judo is better standing, (in my opinion).
kelikallinn 5 years ago
judo guys and bjj are the same on the ground...bjj is kosen judo...too bad they don't put gold medalist judo guys vs top jui jitsu guys..they wouldnt stand a chance in hell
judoman98 5 years ago
well i wouldnt say the same?. ive done judo and its mostly a stand up game. you really cant compare the 2 sports and say who will win over the other?. i think bjj is better on the ground.
kimchiR6 5 years ago
dude..bjj is 1/3 judo....the real good judo guys know there ground ...trust me....bjj cuz are no doubt great on the ground..but u gotta get em there. If u took judo u know when the oppenent is thrown, they are valnarable to submissions, hold downs etc etc quite easily. bjj moves are already in judos arsenal..but u cant say the same vice versa
judoman98 5 years ago
I'm not saying judo guys don't know their ground work. the training in ground work is much different in judo and bjj. you know that already and rules are different. mike swain who was giving the seminar was getting schooled by jonh frankle (black belt fr: bj penn) on the ground. mike swain is a great judo practitioner from what i hear. you really cant compare the two sports and say who is better than who.
kimchiR6 5 years ago
Judo is 2/3 traditional jujitsu. Judo came from Jujitsu. So did BJJ. Royce messed up yoshidas (olympic gold medalist) face. And royce wouldnt stand a chance vs. top notch bjj guys. You cant call Judo a fight.. But bjj is war.
triangulovoador 5 years ago
haha..sure it is...japanese jui jitsu is way different then bjj. traditional jui jitsu are not groud fighters. call bjj what u want but is watered down even more, do the math..lol And Royce in a street fight would probably beat most bjj guys
judoman98 5 years ago
what do you mean watered down?.. bjj has techniques made for ground "fighting" a lot of new techniques have been developed in bjj. the 2 sports are both respectivley different. how can you say bjj is watered down?. stop hating on bjj LOL ^^
kimchiR6 5 years ago
@judoman98 testing
naistradamus 1 year ago
BJJ didnt come from jujitsu, dumbfuck, it came from judo. BJJ = judo newaza. there are like 3 moves in BJJ that arent in judo
maxbigwood 2 years ago
ok fair enough i dont know why i said alot of the stuff i said a year ago, it was more to due with the fact i was annoyed with people who just do 1 martial and say its the best. no martial art is the best its best to do a variety
DoomCatcher 2 years ago
id say ju jitsu is the best lol, it trains ground, take downs, boxing, kick boxing, defensive and offensive. its a complete martial art which was used and respected in battle so yeh id say ju jistu may be one of the best martial arts you could do
danjack17 2 years ago
3 moves!!! You gotta be an uneducated retard that has never been introduced to any type of martial arts... No judo guy would stand a chance against bjj guys... like a bjj guy would have alot of trouble against high level judo guys while standing up...
triangulovoador 2 years ago
Actually not really, most of the stuff BJJ uses is in Judo. Competition judo has ruined Judo. They give an ippon(instant win) for nearly any throw nowadays. Which stops the amount of ground fighting they do, so they basically don't train it as much. Kodokan judo has a stricter scoring system. You can get good judoka's on the ground, I am sure there are good BJJ guys that can actually fight standing up, never seen one, but I am sure they are out there
BroomeBlocker3 2 years ago
@BroomeBlocker3 Agreed, high level Judo competitions usually look like two drunken cats falling down a flight of stairs.
LordShandor 1 month ago
dude go to a judo gym they teach the exact same shit. my gym does judo and bjj ive done both and now i only do judo considering half of the time in the judo training we do newaza randori (you do that the whole time in bj). i have my purple in bjj and my green in judo and almost all of the technique i learnt in judo was the same in bjj only difference was learing different guards and alot more deffensive ground work, judo if your not good enough to finish on the ground quickly u get stood up
danjack17 2 years ago