Since almost everyone will have a knife on them... isnt a ferro rod and maybe trioxane (Sp?) or char cloth be just as good? Havent tried myself... but seen on Nutn and others where Surefire - single mechanism- sparkers have failed.. IMO its because after U've taken the care to make your "birds nest".. the action of pushing disperses and disrupts it..
I might be wrong tho.. I'm not an expert. just an observation/supposition
@RedSoxBowHunter Oh yes, We're getting ready for the next Prep Con in Oct. We've also been trying to get together and do some training vids. Too much to do and not enough time. Thanks for asking.
This is cool and all; but I'm sticking with my metal match(magnesium bar with a flint). You still need the char cloth- while I need nothing except my metal match.
i prefer flint and steel to strt a fire or your pick of other old methods to strt a fire but most inportant is being ready when the time comes to live away from poeple
nice video again brother. I don't have one but it seems that the o rings on the piston would have breaks in them that should NOT be lined up. It seems like it sould be the same as in internal combustion engine. Just to throw it out there.
I think a bunch of you are kinda missing the point of the fire piston. It shouldn't replace any fire making method and shouldn't be your only source of fire. It is simply an ADDITION to your fire kit. I usually take a lighter, firesteel, matches, and this fire piston.
@andywartooth yea , me too...and I wonder about all those people who have all their different ways of making fire in one bag.Or on one string...I salt mine all through my gear, that way if I lose some of it in a survival situation,(high water, deep snow,wildfire, plane or car crash...) odds are, I'll have a fire, whatever bits I retrieve.Salvage what you can, use what you find.
Cool toy but I'm sticking with my $3 multipack of mini-bic lighters. I can have lot's of redundant lighters for $35. Just add a couple of freezer bags and presto chango it's water proof.
@Renocasa Well, the channel has always been a mixture of gun/gear reviews and survival/preparedness, and this seems pretty consistent with that. What would you consider "on topic"?
@Solanum20 It's takes a few minutes to get it to the fire as shown. Once you get the tender started, it's not too difficult. But even using a match or lighter takes a little time.
i really do like allot of your videos. but this one just feels like a promotion for goinggear.. and the editing done to the video does not show how long it took to make that fire.. i think i would just stick to using firesteel its much more effective.
Ditto MrLongboarder87. Only add a pocket full of dryer lint as tinder. Better than char cloth any day of the year and much easier to come by. Ask Sootch, he knows.
@KingDavidM My lint has too much nylon, etc.in it...it melts and extinguishes the spark.I found a piece of cotton rope, cut in pieces, and fuzzed up on one end, works better. if you dip it in paraffin, works even better than that .you can extinguish it and use it over and over.
I keep waiting for someone to put a drop of diesel fuel in this thing and shoot themselves....just a matter of time before a knuckle head gets his hands on one
It's always nice to see a well made product and it's great that your boy has a cool business. BUT...lube, o-rings, the need for prepared tinder? I get your point about redundancy but I never saw the problem with a good-quality sparkthrowing ferro-rod and the back of a knife.
Nu, maybe I'm primitive. For me, it seems both cheaper and better.
Cool product but for me its just not worth it. Gotta keep the o rings lubed and have to make sure you have extras in case those break. Gotta have the right tinder to put in it too. Flint and steel is just much easier and more reliable
@WAFFLES081 Having a store front means utility bills and rent. We are not a web only based store out of some warehouse in the middle of nowhere. Our prices are comparable to competitors, along with our customer service and fast shipping.
I agree Sootch. My friends always get on me about taking several types of fire starters when camping out in the bush. However, if one fails, such as a lighter or matches getting wet, I have a ferrocerium rod, fire piston and magnifying glass as well as petroleum soaked cotton balls and a maya stick. Everything fits into a small pouch and weighs very little. Besides a quality fixed blade, I consider my fire kit to be the most important piece of gear in my bag.
It is nice to have different means to start a fire, but a fire piston isn't exactly low tech. What are the odds of being able to order from a website in a WROL situation? A fire stick is reliable and long lasting.
Good stuff sootch. Always wanted one of the fire pistons. If for nothing else just to have yet another nostalgic way of starting a fire. Really $35 is not bad for that quality and durability. Thanks for the look.
people are missing the point. any GOOD survival kit should have 3 OR MORE ways to start a fire. anything can go wrong at ANYTIME! best to be prepared rite? thats while where all here after all isnt it? one of these bad boys. flints stick and common lighters. EVERY KIT SHOULD HAVE ATLEAST THESE THREE!. then throw your matches and MORE on top if you can. accelarents ect ect ect
I got one a few months ago and really like it. Of course I like to make my own char cloth (out of old cotton undershirts, I seem to have a bunch lol) so the fuel part isn't a big deal to me. Char cloth is an excellent reliable way to get a fire started whether you use a fire piston or a fire steel. As for the quality of this particular piston you really can't stress enough how high quality its machined and feels in your hand.
The Vulcan Fire Piston is awsome and great for last resort survival but for me i prefer the FastStrike Maxx Fire Steel work way faster in my opignion.
Oh, it's made from aircraft aluminium. That's great, does that mean it's made from 0,8 mm thick aluminium that breaks if you put your finger on it, and corrodes if you get any chemical on it whatsoever? That's my experience with aircraft. ;) /Former aircraft mechanic
This is a good reminder to make some more char cloth. I can not believe that anybody is able to sell somebody char cloth. Really??? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
On a completely unrelated matter, we should all go to foxnews.com and search for Shibani Joshi. Is there no end to the news babes that Fox News can produce? Just sayin'. Cheers, Sootch.
@Ronald3570 As long as your carrying plenty of CharCloth with you these are great. What if your Char Cloth gets wet.? I'Id love to see a Fire Piston DEMO in a downpour.Sure you can dry it out, but do you want to wait? Im sorry, I dont see paying this kinda money for a Fire Making Device that is so specialized and requires a unique medium to work (Char cloth) Oh and if the rubber O-Ring faiils, then what? Its a cool gimmick, but has no place in a real survival pack, at least not as a primary.
A good way to make your own char cloth is from an old pair of jeans. Cut them up into squares and place the squares into an altoids can or something similar. Put a small hole in the top of the can. Place the can into a fire, and watch as the gasses from the hole ignite. Once it stops, pull out the can and then cover the hole until it cools. Open, and you now have char cloth! Don't do too much per batch or it won't work too well
@aircaptain9 cool, I didn't know that technique worked with clothes too, I only knew that you could naturally make char cloth by busting open a cat tail, and putting the fluff into a small tin w/ the hole in it.
Great price! but Ive used a fire piston a few times and to me its kind of a gimmick. It has moving parts and rubber o-rings, you have to have the right kind of tinder for it to work properly, and for $5 i can buy a flint fire starter. Great price and cool gadget but Ill stick with flint and the spine of a knife for now.
@MrLongboarder87 The real fire pistons are better. I have one that is made of wood and uses a coarse twine that is wax coated. It's really not that hard to replace or even make your own fire piston if need be. I usually use char cloth or anything light and dry. They work great.
yea for the price of this thing you can buy like 400 lighters
anonymousmry99 5 days ago
There are toooo many easyer ways!
gascanbad 1 month ago
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Wast of time ...better stuff out there
robbase54 3 months ago
nice looking fire piston. havent used one as yet
mazadan 3 months ago
Jesus your lame
Bassghost007 3 months ago
Just carry a spare lighter? Or three?
ProofNZ 4 months ago
Interesting device, but I wouldn't trade that for my firesteel. Great video btw.
Kevitivity 6 months ago
The checking you refered to is called knurling in machinist lingo.
111gate 6 months ago
Aurora Fire Starter
texture6 6 months ago
Nice vid brother but I wouldn't waist the money on this system!!
milwaukeegregg 6 months ago
Since almost everyone will have a knife on them... isnt a ferro rod and maybe trioxane (Sp?) or char cloth be just as good? Havent tried myself... but seen on Nutn and others where Surefire - single mechanism- sparkers have failed.. IMO its because after U've taken the care to make your "birds nest".. the action of pushing disperses and disrupts it..
I might be wrong tho.. I'm not an expert. just an observation/supposition
Hhound 6 months ago
I have never heard of this. I am truly interested in it and using it. Thank you again for bring a product to our attention. Have a great day.
DennyRec 6 months ago
Nice video....I like the rod method but this would be a cool to try out.
jmmurdy 7 months ago
For less size and weight I will stick with magnesium and Cotton balls soaked in vasaline. This Always works.
EnduringEagle 7 months ago
Why no vids with SoutherPrep anymore, you guys still buds?
RedSoxBowHunter 7 months ago
@RedSoxBowHunter Oh yes, We're getting ready for the next Prep Con in Oct. We've also been trying to get together and do some training vids. Too much to do and not enough time. Thanks for asking.
sootch00 7 months ago
This is cool and all; but I'm sticking with my metal match(magnesium bar with a flint). You still need the char cloth- while I need nothing except my metal match.
shinli00 7 months ago
looks like a maglite
philsense 7 months ago
i prefer flint and steel to strt a fire or your pick of other old methods to strt a fire but most inportant is being ready when the time comes to live away from poeple
MrGreblin 7 months ago
nice video again brother. I don't have one but it seems that the o rings on the piston would have breaks in them that should NOT be lined up. It seems like it sould be the same as in internal combustion engine. Just to throw it out there.
SullysTree 7 months ago
I think a bunch of you are kinda missing the point of the fire piston. It shouldn't replace any fire making method and shouldn't be your only source of fire. It is simply an ADDITION to your fire kit. I usually take a lighter, firesteel, matches, and this fire piston.
andywartooth 7 months ago
@andywartooth yea , me too...and I wonder about all those people who have all their different ways of making fire in one bag.Or on one string...I salt mine all through my gear, that way if I lose some of it in a survival situation,(high water, deep snow,wildfire, plane or car crash...) odds are, I'll have a fire, whatever bits I retrieve.Salvage what you can, use what you find.
Comanche1100 2 months ago
I would like to think of myself as somewhat of a camper and outdoorsman... but i have NEVER heard of a fire piston.
cobrar85 7 months ago
Cool toy but I'm sticking with my $3 multipack of mini-bic lighters. I can have lot's of redundant lighters for $35. Just add a couple of freezer bags and presto chango it's water proof.
rjander3 7 months ago
that is cool it starts just like a diesel engine through compression!
teufelhunde666 7 months ago
Has anyone else noticed that sootch's videos have been getting a little off topic?
Renocasa 7 months ago
@Renocasa Well, the channel has always been a mixture of gun/gear reviews and survival/preparedness, and this seems pretty consistent with that. What would you consider "on topic"?
intooblv 7 months ago
@Renocasa Fire Starting options are on topic with Sensible Survival & BUshcraft. What other videos are you referring to?
sootch00 7 months ago 12
@sootch00 he is running the ID10T error
Demicron 7 months ago
@Renocasa Also maybe hes got a deal with the shop. sponsorship or something.
TheKodiak72 6 months ago
Hey sootch, how long did it take you to coax that ember into the full fledged fire we saw at the beginning of the vid?
Solanum20 7 months ago
@Solanum20 It's takes a few minutes to get it to the fire as shown. Once you get the tender started, it's not too difficult. But even using a match or lighter takes a little time.
sootch00 7 months ago
i really do like allot of your videos. but this one just feels like a promotion for goinggear.. and the editing done to the video does not show how long it took to make that fire.. i think i would just stick to using firesteel its much more effective.
Evoluztion 7 months ago
Ditto MrLongboarder87. Only add a pocket full of dryer lint as tinder. Better than char cloth any day of the year and much easier to come by. Ask Sootch, he knows.
KingDavidM 7 months ago
@KingDavidM My lint has too much nylon, etc.in it...it melts and extinguishes the spark.I found a piece of cotton rope, cut in pieces, and fuzzed up on one end, works better. if you dip it in paraffin, works even better than that .you can extinguish it and use it over and over.
Comanche1100 2 months ago
Worthless...Stick to firesteel...they don't need lube or o rings
IXICopyCatIXI 7 months ago
I keep waiting for someone to put a drop of diesel fuel in this thing and shoot themselves....just a matter of time before a knuckle head gets his hands on one
freakshow2000 7 months ago
Great review man! Always need to be prepared for any situation.... God Job Sootch. Take care, Dino
adamador 7 months ago
Sootch: Great to see you're in atl. Me too. Thanks for all your great advice.
icaasi 7 months ago
I"ll continue to recommend going with the Ultimate Survival Technology Blast Match. It will light your cigar Sootch.
DavZZee 7 months ago
That's an impressive little tool! I need to get one.
Ah, but can you light your pipe or cigar with it? LOL
TheEltopian 7 months ago
great product to have for emergencies. I think our children should hone this skill as well as the men and women who practice being a survivalist.
gunreviewer910 7 months ago
It's always nice to see a well made product and it's great that your boy has a cool business. BUT...lube, o-rings, the need for prepared tinder? I get your point about redundancy but I never saw the problem with a good-quality sparkthrowing ferro-rod and the back of a knife.
Nu, maybe I'm primitive. For me, it seems both cheaper and better.
903lew 7 months ago
Marshall is a cool guy...but I like his lights much more...Thanks for the vid
dakdak88 7 months ago
mighty small nest you got there.
poormanprepper 7 months ago
Seems like a neat product but to many areas for failure..would be neat for practicing ember fires though.
keystoneprepper 7 months ago
All you really need is as many bic lighters as it takes to feel like you will never run out of a way to light a fire
grizz474 7 months ago
I think ill buy a bunch of lighters instead lol
MrTACDUDE 7 months ago
Cool product but for me its just not worth it. Gotta keep the o rings lubed and have to make sure you have extras in case those break. Gotta have the right tinder to put in it too. Flint and steel is just much easier and more reliable
Abington586 7 months ago
sootch,
you need to blow on an ember to light it better and faster
strangelylucky 7 months ago
all you really need is,
flint and a knife
strangelylucky 7 months ago
Is the plastic bag it came with water proof?. I'll just use that to keep 2 of my $1.25Bic lighters from getting wet.
Hell I'll just use Ziploc bags.....
renegss 7 months ago
Isnt goinggear like fairly overpriced on everything they sell?
WAFFLES081 7 months ago
@WAFFLES081 Having a store front means utility bills and rent. We are not a web only based store out of some warehouse in the middle of nowhere. Our prices are comparable to competitors, along with our customer service and fast shipping.
andywartooth 7 months ago
Yet another gadget to try to take over extremely simple flint and a knife... but a cool gadget all the same
AlmightyThor82 7 months ago
I thought it was going to be a piston for an AR15, lol.
esh325 7 months ago
To many thing required for it. I'd rather just carry a spare lighter in my pack or flint and steel. That seems to be demanding of materials
themighty9mm 7 months ago
I agree Sootch. My friends always get on me about taking several types of fire starters when camping out in the bush. However, if one fails, such as a lighter or matches getting wet, I have a ferrocerium rod, fire piston and magnifying glass as well as petroleum soaked cotton balls and a maya stick. Everything fits into a small pouch and weighs very little. Besides a quality fixed blade, I consider my fire kit to be the most important piece of gear in my bag.
jntroisi 7 months ago
how well does this work in the rain?
donkeydrew420 7 months ago
I'll just stick to using fenian fire to get a fire going.
kiekert2007 7 months ago
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kiekert2007 7 months ago
good video, but im going to stick with flint and steel. thank you, keep it up
SuperTrEnT1995 7 months ago
Sootch .... also, you could become friends with the local arsonist or obtain a pet dragon. But seriously, great video as always :)
purkjason 7 months ago 2
Very cool fire piston Sootch, great video.
ColinOutdoors 7 months ago
It is nice to have different means to start a fire, but a fire piston isn't exactly low tech. What are the odds of being able to order from a website in a WROL situation? A fire stick is reliable and long lasting.
siralec2 7 months ago
Yeah, you need a fire piston large enough to start a cigar with. :-))
siralec2 7 months ago
Good stuff sootch. Always wanted one of the fire pistons. If for nothing else just to have yet another nostalgic way of starting a fire. Really $35 is not bad for that quality and durability. Thanks for the look.
TheGrayman1234 7 months ago
people are missing the point. any GOOD survival kit should have 3 OR MORE ways to start a fire. anything can go wrong at ANYTIME! best to be prepared rite? thats while where all here after all isnt it? one of these bad boys. flints stick and common lighters. EVERY KIT SHOULD HAVE ATLEAST THESE THREE!. then throw your matches and MORE on top if you can. accelarents ect ect ect
UndoneB4Broken 7 months ago
I got one a few months ago and really like it. Of course I like to make my own char cloth (out of old cotton undershirts, I seem to have a bunch lol) so the fuel part isn't a big deal to me. Char cloth is an excellent reliable way to get a fire started whether you use a fire piston or a fire steel. As for the quality of this particular piston you really can't stress enough how high quality its machined and feels in your hand.
friskyrabbit 7 months ago
do you prefer a firesteel or the fire piston ?
RamSkirata 7 months ago
what is the best fire-starter that does not include rubber (which can dry and crack)?
100101100 7 months ago
The Vulcan Fire Piston is awsome and great for last resort survival but for me i prefer the FastStrike Maxx Fire Steel work way faster in my opignion.
tolarusin 7 months ago
Another great review Sootch. Thanks again pal. ~Wolf
FatDaddy4Fun 7 months ago
I would actually buy the misch metal ferro rods from Going gear, it doesn't launch sparks but literally globs of molten metal, which is great.
FIyingPengwin 7 months ago
Nice peice of equipment. I like it. But, sam's club has 56 bic lighters for about the same price. Vac pak'em up one or two at a time to keep'em dry.
Duane77able 7 months ago
looks like a mag lite in shape------kubotan tech for defense also
pangolin9 7 months ago
Oh, it's made from aircraft aluminium. That's great, does that mean it's made from 0,8 mm thick aluminium that breaks if you put your finger on it, and corrodes if you get any chemical on it whatsoever? That's my experience with aircraft. ;) /Former aircraft mechanic
Tjita1 7 months ago
This is a good reminder to make some more char cloth. I can not believe that anybody is able to sell somebody char cloth. Really??? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
On a completely unrelated matter, we should all go to foxnews.com and search for Shibani Joshi. Is there no end to the news babes that Fox News can produce? Just sayin'. Cheers, Sootch.
sabr686 7 months ago
i ill use a lighter :P
12njr 7 months ago
@12njr lighters run out of fuel, this lasts forever.
Ronald3570 7 months ago
@Ronald3570 As long as your carrying plenty of CharCloth with you these are great. What if your Char Cloth gets wet.? I'Id love to see a Fire Piston DEMO in a downpour.Sure you can dry it out, but do you want to wait? Im sorry, I dont see paying this kinda money for a Fire Making Device that is so specialized and requires a unique medium to work (Char cloth) Oh and if the rubber O-Ring faiils, then what? Its a cool gimmick, but has no place in a real survival pack, at least not as a primary.
ThePauperPrepper 7 months ago
@ThePauperPrepper it doesnt require char cloth, you can use anything you want in it.
Ronald3570 7 months ago
Great review as always
REVAN2338 7 months ago
I really enjoy mine, its a great tool to keep around
beast12101 7 months ago
Nothing beats a good cigar in camp.
The piston is really slick, thanks for posting.
joesphx19 7 months ago
A good way to make your own char cloth is from an old pair of jeans. Cut them up into squares and place the squares into an altoids can or something similar. Put a small hole in the top of the can. Place the can into a fire, and watch as the gasses from the hole ignite. Once it stops, pull out the can and then cover the hole until it cools. Open, and you now have char cloth! Don't do too much per batch or it won't work too well
aircaptain9 7 months ago 17
@aircaptain9 cool, I didn't know that technique worked with clothes too, I only knew that you could naturally make char cloth by busting open a cat tail, and putting the fluff into a small tin w/ the hole in it.
Solanum20 7 months ago
Great price! but Ive used a fire piston a few times and to me its kind of a gimmick. It has moving parts and rubber o-rings, you have to have the right kind of tinder for it to work properly, and for $5 i can buy a flint fire starter. Great price and cool gadget but Ill stick with flint and the spine of a knife for now.
MrLongboarder87 7 months ago 43
@MrLongboarder87 The real fire pistons are better. I have one that is made of wood and uses a coarse twine that is wax coated. It's really not that hard to replace or even make your own fire piston if need be. I usually use char cloth or anything light and dry. They work great.
HatrXx78 7 months ago
@MrLongboarder87 Same here..
boosted28 7 months ago
@MrLongboarder87 Its for those fancy multi million dollar outdoors men who go out once a year. lol A cool product tho..
Demicron 7 months ago
i think i learned a lil bit about the universe from your video. compression of molecules can create sparks.
SakuraMasumi 7 months ago
That design looks like it could be used to draw out venom in a pinch. Neat piece of kit.
om3gadagg3r 7 months ago
That is super cool, and easy to use.
Iam1uglyguy 7 months ago
Sootch stop making videos.... YOUR MAKING ME GO BROKE I NEED THIS NOW LOL!
Tux3d0 7 months ago 4