This will be easy now let the class begin ! You say that being gay is not a choice . It is a choice because you could still choose to be strait . So it is a choice . You can still choose to be with a woman . So it is a choice . lol there is no debate when the truth is laid out . And even if you were born gay . When you became older . And you new right from wrong . You still choose to be gay . So no matter how you cut it . It is a choice . check mate ?
You make a good point. It would be great if the case made it to the supreme court. I still think we should repeal prop 8 though, because people should not have to wait for equal rights, and leaving it up to the courts is somewhat of a gamble.
You can't force them any religion to marry any one now Straight or Gay that is just to take away the argument that people like NOM use to spread lies and misinformation. I don't think the US supreme court will allow prop 8 to be over turned. There are other court cases moving forward that can still be ruled on in the federal court. So not moving forward here in CA with our system is a waste of opurtunity.
Jim Ken Mehlman can go to Hello Operator. In fact i'm willing to bet he probably already going through it. Nobody wants to be his friend after he pissed of the Gays and Republicans...
This may be one of the reasons why I think increased states' rights (libertarian-ism/Tea party-ism) is a bad idea because it grants them the powers to take away rights from the people. I also think that... RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE VOTED ON THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED RIGHTS! I much rather wait and have this go to the U.S. Supreme Court and have gay marriage legal on the FEDERAL LEVEL & invalidate every freakin' states' law that bans gay marriage.
@jonescity totally agree, rights should never be voted on! But that is why the courts exist to protect the minorities from the tyranny of the majority
"it'd make gay-marriage legal again in California, which I think is something *everyone* here in California wants" If that was really the case there would be nothing to repeal. Prop 8 passed b/c the majority of Californians wish to preserve the definition of marriage.
"Repeal Prop 8 yes or no?" No, democracy shall prevail. What y'all after is the recognition/acceptance, in hopes that, over time, the society will view homosexuality as normal over time. Y'all just need to call it something else.
I tend to agree with you.. The whole thing was quickly put on the ballot here in Ohio in '04 when Bush ran for his second term. (Ironically by a gay man named Ken Mehlman- INCREDIBLE!!) Ours not only forbids marriage but also civil unions. I don't think people even read it before they voted. It was called "the Protect Marriage Act.' So basically here in Ohio we have nothing. Legally my partner and I of over 20 years are no more than complete strangers.. So sad and so unfair!
I think that we can wait and continue to be second class citizens till the court case can make it all the way through. We are already being discriminated against so why not just prolong it to possibly really get what we want? Marriage equality on a national level would be a great stride....so I would say it is worth the wait. Why risk having the court case thrown out?
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This will be easy now let the class begin ! You say that being gay is not a choice . It is a choice because you could still choose to be strait . So it is a choice . You can still choose to be with a woman . So it is a choice . lol there is no debate when the truth is laid out . And even if you were born gay . When you became older . And you new right from wrong . You still choose to be gay . So no matter how you cut it . It is a choice . check mate ?
nizzobeats 4 weeks ago
You make a good point. It would be great if the case made it to the supreme court. I still think we should repeal prop 8 though, because people should not have to wait for equal rights, and leaving it up to the courts is somewhat of a gamble.
Jimplicit 1 month ago
You can't force them any religion to marry any one now Straight or Gay that is just to take away the argument that people like NOM use to spread lies and misinformation. I don't think the US supreme court will allow prop 8 to be over turned. There are other court cases moving forward that can still be ruled on in the federal court. So not moving forward here in CA with our system is a waste of opurtunity.
depfox 1 month ago
@stoner829
Jim Ken Mehlman can go to Hello Operator. In fact i'm willing to bet he probably already going through it. Nobody wants to be his friend after he pissed of the Gays and Republicans...
jonescity 1 month ago
@stoner829 @aggiepm
Kinda off topic but...
This may be one of the reasons why I think increased states' rights (libertarian-ism/Tea party-ism) is a bad idea because it grants them the powers to take away rights from the people. I also think that... RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE VOTED ON THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED RIGHTS! I much rather wait and have this go to the U.S. Supreme Court and have gay marriage legal on the FEDERAL LEVEL & invalidate every freakin' states' law that bans gay marriage.
jonescity 1 month ago
@jonescity totally agree, rights should never be voted on! But that is why the courts exist to protect the minorities from the tyranny of the majority
aggiepm 1 month ago
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"it'd make gay-marriage legal again in California, which I think is something *everyone* here in California wants" If that was really the case there would be nothing to repeal. Prop 8 passed b/c the majority of Californians wish to preserve the definition of marriage.
"Repeal Prop 8 yes or no?" No, democracy shall prevail. What y'all after is the recognition/acceptance, in hopes that, over time, the society will view homosexuality as normal over time. Y'all just need to call it something else.
PhoenixOpenProject 1 month ago
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PhoenixOpenProject 1 month ago
You're using sound reasoning and logic on this. That's always the best way to approach anything in life.
romaczech75 1 month ago
I tend to agree with you.. The whole thing was quickly put on the ballot here in Ohio in '04 when Bush ran for his second term. (Ironically by a gay man named Ken Mehlman- INCREDIBLE!!) Ours not only forbids marriage but also civil unions. I don't think people even read it before they voted. It was called "the Protect Marriage Act.' So basically here in Ohio we have nothing. Legally my partner and I of over 20 years are no more than complete strangers.. So sad and so unfair!
stoner829 1 month ago
I think that we can wait and continue to be second class citizens till the court case can make it all the way through. We are already being discriminated against so why not just prolong it to possibly really get what we want? Marriage equality on a national level would be a great stride....so I would say it is worth the wait. Why risk having the court case thrown out?
jamesnnc1 1 month ago
i like the picture on the background.
oyeporqsoyasi 1 month ago
@oyeporqsoyasi thanks!
aggiepm 1 month ago