The English parlement are spineless basterds, comeon they where afraid to talk to wilders because thousand of muslims threatend to storm the parlement if he would be allowed. so they listen to islam but not the fellow european countries.
Lord Pearson was one of UKIP's best leaders; he united the party and led it to a huge increase in its share of the vote. For that, the party must be grateful.
There is no absolute right of free speech, because there are always circumstances in which unregulated expression can create problematic or dangerous situations. The need for safeguarding the public against certain forms of speech creates exceptions that are not protected by the First Amendment. "Falsely shouting fire in a theatre" is an example.
@fromwilliams You have a very dim view of the 'Public' . Did they ask to be 'protected' (i.e. inhibited) from expressing thoughts by self appointed guardians?
@fromwilliams First of all, that statement was very condescending, second of all we in the UK do not have a first amendment, thirdly the British people have minds of their own, they are the ONLY ones that control their thoughts. Not the state or any other guardianistas for that matter!
@fromwilliams To follow through with the fire metaphor: If Gheert Wilders is the man shouting fire in the theatre; since he makes absolutely no untrue statements in his film, therefore there is a fire in the theatre.
Of course you can yell fire in a crowded theater. It's up to the theater goers to keep their wits about them, and actually think for a moment instead of panicking. It's up to them to see whether there actually is a fire. It's up to the owner of the theater to kick you out of the theater.
On the far left we tend to have no interest in banning speech, we no platform it, i.e. we let anyone say what they like, but argue against hopeless biggots getting invited to speak in our organisations. So of course Wilders should be allowed in the country to speak, but anyone who invites him to speak is at least in some sense validating his views as part of a legitimate discourse. No platform says 'you have no role in a usefull debate', censorship says 'we're scared of what you're saying'.
It is important that we have this debate; Islamic extremism is a problem. But we need to remember the vast majority of peaceful Muslims, and urge them to join the fight against the violent apostates.
oh shut up lord achmed you threatened to mobalise 10,000 muslims to attack Wilders and stop him entering the house of Lords and in doing so backing up the video
A MUST See: HBO Documentary: Shouting Fire! BEST Documentary I have seen in my 50 years of life. You want to learn about the first amendment, your rights, and the Supreme Court, you might want to check this documentary out! WOW!
Shouting FIRE in a theatre is protected...if there is a fire ! Plz post up the lies that Geert showed in the film. I've seen the film and I saw NO lies, but I dont mind being taught. ..I am curious why you thought that your lying in the Title was neccessary, and of course, Whose payroll are you on ??
If your in a theatre and you see a fire starting keep your mouth shut! Someone might be praying towards that fire and they might get offended and his friends might get violent and then you'd be a racist whos stirred up hatred and division.
Before I converted to Islam I was very independent. Today I realize it is wrong to question Muslim males because my love for Allah is higher than my desire to be right.
Th US are probably better equiped thanks to gun ownership. Here in the UK, only the criminals have guns, law-abiding folk arn't allowed to protect themselves, something about the human rights of the criminal.
Sad but true.
Everytime they do soomething like this though, only quickens our resolve.
Imagine it was the 1970's, and the film was about IRA terrorist attacks on mainland Britain. Would the film be called Irish-ophobic? And what if a Lord Adams or Lord McGuiness were to say "If you show this film I will surround the houses of Parliament with 10,000 Irishmen?
Perhaps worst of all is how this story was hushed up and so few I've spoken to know anything about it. I call that doubly shameful.
Isn't this a breach of Free movement around the EU. The UK is unable under EU law to deport a man from another EU state who has served a prison sentence so how can they breach EU law here by refusing to allow another EU citizen into the UK.
Sureley this proves that the EU is nothing more then a show with no real power and its EU law is now un-inforcable.
We yesterday accepted that terrorist back from guantanimo too, He had admitted going to terrorist training camps, to learn to kill. Only the other week, lord KILLER ahmed said that we don't let anyone preaching hate into our country. I think he meant, unless they are muslims.
He's trying to show what the koran is inspiring in the world, as it's now worldwide. What other religion has such strong political ideas, and all to rule minds. Five times a day praying is just repetition, and a technique used in training animals, and brainwashing. Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly. Get the idea?
What the difference between this lot people in this:HITLER coming to the UK to preach hate about Black people AND Jews.
Bin laden coming to the UK to preach hate about white people Geert WILD MAN preaching hate about Islam they are all the same boat
IM glade im a smartly pants i bet you people didn't think of this. ps any RELIGION THAT BELIEVES IN ONE GOD IS A FRIEND OF ISLAM said by MUHAMMAD pbuh
The koran is what he's talking about, and nothing to do with race. muslims are not a race of people either, although some brainwashed fools seem to think they are.
Here's the reality; the only reason that Geert Wilders is being so persecuted is because WE ALL KNOW HE IS RIGHT. Criticising Islam is compared to shouting fire in a theatre. In other words criticising Islam causes chaos. In other words Islam is violent and chaotic.
We would allow a similar criticism of Christianity. Why? The reason is not ideological, it boils down to Christians don't bomb shit. I mean, I'm not defending any religion, 21st century muslims just tend to be the most irritable.
It's weird watching all those people in high places over there defending islam like that. Almost going out of their way. You can tell that muslims have influence over there.
Must be the same feeling other people get when out politicians bend over for fundy christians over here.
Just like they regret letting the Europeans in when they colonized their countries and took them over and manipulated their lands in each and every way to suit their goals?
Shouting fire in a cinema is hardly freedom of speech, freedom of lying maybe, Wilders and his film fitna is not lying. this is censorship. I am really upset with my fellow green polly, dancing on the fence with his ballerina's tootoo on and not admitting to the hate that is blatant in the Koran. Love is mention 33 times in Koran/hadeiths Kill hate slay is mentioned thousands of times . wake up the frog will boil to death.
F speech cornerstone of our culture and is instrumental in our sucess and future prosperity. it is what allows our country to continually improve and adjust to the requirements of the day
When someone says or does something which we consider stupid, and is just plain incorrect we criticise them until they stop doing it. this is why freedom of speech is 100% vital to our continued stability
If muslims cannot understand or cannot accept these concepts, then they do not belong in europe simple!
I'm never surprised by the cowardice and stupidity of the Brish government. By banning Geert Wilders they have proved yet again their fear of the Islamic bigots who wish to distroy us all!
they all believe in an imaginary man watching over us and our every move. Every single religion that believes in the invisible imaginary friend is idiotic as any other.
There is no point in having racist arseholes just vent their mindless hatred again, especially if you, like UKIP, are trying to keep tacky reactionary racists out of your party. By the way your agenda (BoomerangFlange) is not exactly subtle, hidden or wholesome. Nobody would ever mistake you for a democrat or lover of freedom and equality.
Miliband has made himself look a complete fool twice in his interview. First when he admitted he had never seen FITNA, (after he condemned it for being hate-filled towards muslims.) Eh? Second when he said there is no freedom of speech to cry 'FIRE' in a movie theatre. Oh but there is Mr.Miliband, if you can smell smoke and see the beginnings of a potential inferno beginning! In fact it is your civil duty to warn others of the possible dangers of a fire in the theatre and a crime not to - FOOL..
Apparently for the UK government only islamic terrorists are welcome. Mr. Wilders is a respectable man and politician and he has the right to tell the truth about islam to all European citizens, even in UK.
It is a sad day when free speech is undermined by religious fanatics. Religion must be relegated back to where it belongs with fortune tellers and street sorcerers. (sorry fortune tellers and street sorcerers) Religions have long been exposed as fraudulent scams designed to make greedy men powerful and rich. We must demand free speech for all and support Geert Wilders.
This Lord Ahmed is a master lying snake,huh? Nice how he can sit there with a straight face and spout that "you cannot condemn a whole religion" crap. This "religion" condemns us all. extremeism in applying equal protection to all beliefs is turning out to be very dangerous. That multicultural equality extremism will make the extreme of one belief condeming all, very viable.
The government of the UK takes the stance that these "hate facts" must be banned because they simply can not be countered. Wilders is right, they are wrong, therefore they can only shut him up.
The gvt. of the UK makes only what the islamic rulers like Lord Ahmed want. And the British gvt. makes that not for the sake of the British people, but for the sake of the Pakistanis.
Lord Achmed gets pwned every time by Lord Pearson. Thats why he has to raise his voice, cause his views are completely biased. He is showing that moderate Muslims are a myth, there is no such thing.
@UnyieldingDefiance If people truly believe in the Qur'an and want to follow what it says, then they will be inspired to commit attrocities in the name of Islam; that is what Muhammed did, and they must follow his example in order to be good Muslims.
Maybe becouse Koran indeed do contain "extreme hate speech" and that's the fact Londonistan dhimis are trying to cover up. Hate crime law don't have any sense at all anyway it's subjectivism of the law stright from medival times.
Multiculturalists have routinely made rigorous claims that they will defeat their enemies in debate and, by proving their enemies to be wrong, somehow prove they are right.
I have never ever seen a multiculturalist engaged in a free debate. I have seen them lobby for laws to prevent dissent against their views by criminalising their opponents. I've seen them use intimidation. That's how they really work. I call it thuggery. Like his multicult sycophants Lord Ahmed is merely another thug.
Wilders certainly is shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre and he's doing it because we have a fire. If parliament keeps ignoring the problems of islam we are going to have an inferno on our hands.
I am of Muslim ancestry, and I tell you unapologetically, Islam is not a religion of peace, Islam is a religion of submission of humanity to the will of Allah. The Quran is full of verses that insight violence as true with other religions. What I find most troubling is that Europe is turning into Eurabia. Europe has been silenced by Islamic intolerance, ignorance and violence nurtured by spineless European politicians.
I would be eager to hear your opinions on how, without causing undue offense, we might convey to practicing Muslims the fact that their religion does indeed promote violence. This is a conversation that needs to be had, but because Islam is a religion it is off limits for criticism. No other set of ideas is so closely protected from scrutiny.
I had never heard of the film...I watched it last night ,and all I can say is...I will make 6.000.000 copies for the lads in the ex -servicesmen club.
but I've heard from somebody that it contains 'hate' and 'extremism'.
Freedom of speech has been destroyed. Laws that have been in place for 300 years to achieve that have been ignored.
We live in dangerous times, where messages that are inconvenient to our government are those that are suppressed, whereas those that pander to religious minorities can be expressed freely.
Wow, the stupid British government equates Geert Wilders with psycho Muslims. The Muslims are not the ones crying out "Fire!" in the crowded theatre. They are the ones putting the theatre on fire, for real.
OK, the UKIP position on the threat of Islam is better than Lib/Lab/Con and just about does it for me. Still I don't like this meek repeated assertion that the "overwhelming" population of the Muslims are etc etc. You never see that "overwhelming" majority come out and demonstrate against Muslim violence. But they do come out in spades against Israel, Bush, Blair, so called "offensive" remarks about Islam etc etc. So I think the UKIP must be louder in their condemnation of Islamic violence.
The English parlement are spineless basterds, comeon they where afraid to talk to wilders because thousand of muslims threatend to storm the parlement if he would be allowed. so they listen to islam but not the fellow european countries.
Kruizlinx 1 year ago
Lord Pearson was one of UKIP's best leaders; he united the party and led it to a huge increase in its share of the vote. For that, the party must be grateful.
MrYoungIndependence 1 year ago
Us and them....
I'm from Holland and I should warn you about Wilders. He devided our country with his retorica.
Is there something wrong Islam? ofcourse there is.
Are all muslims to blame? ofcourse not .
Is there something wrong with kapitalism? ofcourse there is.
Are we all to blame? ofcourse not.
Discern is a answer to his generalization
nickthekickBelgie 1 year ago
There is no absolute right of free speech, because there are always circumstances in which unregulated expression can create problematic or dangerous situations. The need for safeguarding the public against certain forms of speech creates exceptions that are not protected by the First Amendment. "Falsely shouting fire in a theatre" is an example.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams You have a very dim view of the 'Public' . Did they ask to be 'protected' (i.e. inhibited) from expressing thoughts by self appointed guardians?
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
@ukipwebmaster
The First amendment doesn't protect fraud, just because it may be spoken.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams So that's all the politicians thrown in jail then?
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
@ukipwebmaster
We need tougher laws against corrupt officials in both the public and private sectors. Freedom to lie has replaced freedom to speech.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams First of all, that statement was very condescending, second of all we in the UK do not have a first amendment, thirdly the British people have minds of their own, they are the ONLY ones that control their thoughts. Not the state or any other guardianistas for that matter!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@fromwilliams To follow through with the fire metaphor: If Gheert Wilders is the man shouting fire in the theatre; since he makes absolutely no untrue statements in his film, therefore there is a fire in the theatre.
FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!
mossfitz 9 months ago
Of course you can yell fire in a crowded theater. It's up to the theater goers to keep their wits about them, and actually think for a moment instead of panicking. It's up to them to see whether there actually is a fire. It's up to the owner of the theater to kick you out of the theater.
rfalfonse 1 year ago
On the far left we tend to have no interest in banning speech, we no platform it, i.e. we let anyone say what they like, but argue against hopeless biggots getting invited to speak in our organisations. So of course Wilders should be allowed in the country to speak, but anyone who invites him to speak is at least in some sense validating his views as part of a legitimate discourse. No platform says 'you have no role in a usefull debate', censorship says 'we're scared of what you're saying'.
wid85 1 year ago
free speech will find a way.
MrUKIndependence 2 years ago
Peter Tatchell runs for cover when he hears the name Doctah X. He scared of REAL debate.
truthhitmanisback 2 years ago
I am okay with Quran being banned as long as every other religious scripture is banned as well.
thelegendarypaki 2 years ago
It is important that we have this debate; Islamic extremism is a problem. But we need to remember the vast majority of peaceful Muslims, and urge them to join the fight against the violent apostates.
rockshop115 2 years ago
The film shows the truth about Islam, but muslims do not want the ruth to be known.
axs2 2 years ago
oh shut up lord achmed you threatened to mobalise 10,000 muslims to attack Wilders and stop him entering the house of Lords and in doing so backing up the video
curtiskarallis 2 years ago
LOOOOL
If there was a fire then you shout fire. Wilders is shouting " Beware of Islam" as you need to be "Beware of Islam".
LOOOL....
SmartRsSoul 2 years ago
What if there IS a fire in the theatre? The word "FALSELY" in Holmes' quote seems to be oft and deliberately ignored.
peterpedant 2 years ago
Peter Tatchell is right! Is this a first?
Pwecko 2 years ago
A MUST See: HBO Documentary: Shouting Fire! BEST Documentary I have seen in my 50 years of life. You want to learn about the first amendment, your rights, and the Supreme Court, you might want to check this documentary out! WOW!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
i never thought i would agree with peter thatchal whatever in my life there you have it
DAISYMANONE 2 years ago
Shouting FIRE in a theatre is protected...if there is a fire ! Plz post up the lies that Geert showed in the film. I've seen the film and I saw NO lies, but I dont mind being taught. ..I am curious why you thought that your lying in the Title was neccessary, and of course, Whose payroll are you on ??
bingramtube 2 years ago 4
If your in a theatre and you see a fire starting keep your mouth shut! Someone might be praying towards that fire and they might get offended and his friends might get violent and then you'd be a racist whos stirred up hatred and division.
FreeBDesh 2 years ago 4
Lord Ahmed Bin Laden
JohnMichaels20 2 years ago 3
WE should all insult islam yust to make a point. No religion can ever take our freedom of speech.
Muhammed was a paedophile, Jesus was a crazy bastard and Moses was a fool.
Blaspheme and show them that we can say what we want, just like they can.
1imax111 2 years ago 9
It's called equal opportunity!
;-)
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
indeed, ;-)
Krishna was thought up by a man hallucinating on great opium:P (Im not a socialist)
1imax111 2 years ago
Who were THE people that caused 9-11?
philnottinghill 2 years ago
muslims.
1imax111 2 years ago
Lol!
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Is this particular theatre actually on fire or not?
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Before I converted to Islam I was very independent. Today I realize it is wrong to question Muslim males because my love for Allah is higher than my desire to be right.
BerkeleyRightsNOW 2 years ago
You would rather love something that doesn't exist than be right? You're nuts! lol
publicanimal9 2 years ago
i guess europe is still asleep. one day they're gonna say enough!!!!!
hope that day comes soon.
cheers.
rickru1 2 years ago
"who decides for you,if the call is inapropriate ?"
Christopher hitchens
MexxPowers 3 years ago
Why do you need someone to make decisions for you?
Are we all becoming like the passive animals in 'Animal Farm'?
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
I would support someone yelling "fire" in a theater.
surfingthechaos 3 years ago
THE UK ARE FILLED WITH COWARDS
slayerkendra 3 years ago
Th US are probably better equiped thanks to gun ownership. Here in the UK, only the criminals have guns, law-abiding folk arn't allowed to protect themselves, something about the human rights of the criminal.
Sad but true.
Everytime they do soomething like this though, only quickens our resolve.
Out the EU and then Islam out of UK. PEACE!!!
ZupaSC 3 years ago
spineless fucking uk politicians geert wilders is a realist not a racist
skepticepilleptic 3 years ago
Imagine it was the 1970's, and the film was about IRA terrorist attacks on mainland Britain. Would the film be called Irish-ophobic? And what if a Lord Adams or Lord McGuiness were to say "If you show this film I will surround the houses of Parliament with 10,000 Irishmen?
Perhaps worst of all is how this story was hushed up and so few I've spoken to know anything about it. I call that doubly shameful.
Gcarse 3 years ago
Ken Livingston is a wanker...he hadn't even seen the film!!!
nerudapaz 3 years ago
UK is going down.
galuiot 3 years ago
Not with the EU though.
Gotta get out of that corrupt instituation.
ZupaSC 3 years ago
Isn't this a breach of Free movement around the EU. The UK is unable under EU law to deport a man from another EU state who has served a prison sentence so how can they breach EU law here by refusing to allow another EU citizen into the UK.
Sureley this proves that the EU is nothing more then a show with no real power and its EU law is now un-inforcable.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
We yesterday accepted that terrorist back from guantanimo too, He had admitted going to terrorist training camps, to learn to kill. Only the other week, lord KILLER ahmed said that we don't let anyone preaching hate into our country. I think he meant, unless they are muslims.
ForYeGo 3 years ago
He's trying to show what the koran is inspiring in the world, as it's now worldwide. What other religion has such strong political ideas, and all to rule minds. Five times a day praying is just repetition, and a technique used in training animals, and brainwashing. Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly. Get the idea?
ForYeGo 3 years ago
Mr Wilders has just received a international FREEDOM OF SPEECH Award
his party is now second in popularity in Holland,on Russian tv tnite
He flies out to the US and has a full schedule there TV appearences Glenn Beck/O'Reilly/Ingraham/CNN
Speaking Engagements
New York, Boston, and Wash. DC.
He is scheduled to speak at the Nat Press Club in Washington DC
The Int Free Press Assn also at an engagement Horowitz Freedom Cntr
he will receive another Int award whilst there
and from uk ???
secula4eva 3 years ago
But they permitted the Christmas speech from Ahmadinejad, the leader of Iran
....how "tolerant"!!!
There's something really wrong in the UK
lnfideI 3 years ago
Geert is in America at the moment and he's been on the media. There have been no problems so far .
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
What the difference between this lot people in this:HITLER coming to the UK to preach hate about Black people AND Jews.
Bin laden coming to the UK to preach hate about white people Geert WILD MAN preaching hate about Islam they are all the same boat
IM glade im a smartly pants i bet you people didn't think of this. ps any RELIGION THAT BELIEVES IN ONE GOD IS A FRIEND OF ISLAM said by MUHAMMAD pbuh
NASA19 3 years ago
The koran is what he's talking about, and nothing to do with race. muslims are not a race of people either, although some brainwashed fools seem to think they are.
ForYeGo 3 years ago
Pathetic.
Goodbye freedom of speech.
:(
skippymvp 3 years ago
If they didn't ban Geert Wilders, none of us would have heard of his film, but now we've all seen it. Good work there, Jacqui (Jack-boot) Smith. LOL
They banned reverend Phelps today; shame we wanted to through stuff at him.
raynarks 3 years ago
Well, a few of we enlightened YouTubers might have... :)
SayYesToReason 3 years ago
Here's the reality; the only reason that Geert Wilders is being so persecuted is because WE ALL KNOW HE IS RIGHT. Criticising Islam is compared to shouting fire in a theatre. In other words criticising Islam causes chaos. In other words Islam is violent and chaotic.
We would allow a similar criticism of Christianity. Why? The reason is not ideological, it boils down to Christians don't bomb shit. I mean, I'm not defending any religion, 21st century muslims just tend to be the most irritable.
BenjaminBattington 3 years ago
You Brits that think Wilders is a bigot need to Google" Winston Churchill and Islam".....Wilders like Churchill is fighting for your country.
lyntonio 3 years ago 3
It's weird watching all those people in high places over there defending islam like that. Almost going out of their way. You can tell that muslims have influence over there.
Must be the same feeling other people get when out politicians bend over for fundy christians over here.
Michigan1985 3 years ago
I was thinking the very same thing while I was watching the latest video of christians beheading some guy. They really are the same!
dfctomm 3 years ago
I love going down to my local gladiatorial arena every Saturday night to watch the lion show.
;)
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
Europe will regret letting the Muslims in.
exmoagogo 3 years ago 3
Just like they regret letting the Europeans in when they colonized their countries and took them over and manipulated their lands in each and every way to suit their goals?
MatrixOfDynamism 3 years ago
One doesn't justify the other.
jawday12345 3 years ago
Shouting fire in a cinema is hardly freedom of speech, freedom of lying maybe, Wilders and his film fitna is not lying. this is censorship. I am really upset with my fellow green polly, dancing on the fence with his ballerina's tootoo on and not admitting to the hate that is blatant in the Koran. Love is mention 33 times in Koran/hadeiths Kill hate slay is mentioned thousands of times . wake up the frog will boil to death.
lyntonio 3 years ago
F speech cornerstone of our culture and is instrumental in our sucess and future prosperity. it is what allows our country to continually improve and adjust to the requirements of the day
When someone says or does something which we consider stupid, and is just plain incorrect we criticise them until they stop doing it. this is why freedom of speech is 100% vital to our continued stability
If muslims cannot understand or cannot accept these concepts, then they do not belong in europe simple!
secula4eva 3 years ago
Why didn't they just let wilders in? what are they afraid of? some kind of truth being said and all the Brits standing up 4 themselves 4 once???
jessxoz 3 years ago 4
I'm never surprised by the cowardice and stupidity of the Brish government. By banning Geert Wilders they have proved yet again their fear of the Islamic bigots who wish to distroy us all!
kdc66 3 years ago 6
Seems like Lord Pearson ought to be PM. Brown's a delusional twat.
rsmothersjr 3 years ago
The only thing i dislike about geert is he embrace a even more idotic religion, christianity.
There is nothing christian about Europe.
Almost all are pagan.
freyrkin 3 years ago
they all believe in an imaginary man watching over us and our every move. Every single religion that believes in the invisible imaginary friend is idiotic as any other.
zeratul1987 3 years ago
Britain is done. So much for free speach...
JAMTAM 3 years ago 2
There is no point in having racist arseholes just vent their mindless hatred again, especially if you, like UKIP, are trying to keep tacky reactionary racists out of your party. By the way your agenda (BoomerangFlange) is not exactly subtle, hidden or wholesome. Nobody would ever mistake you for a democrat or lover of freedom and equality.
MartinJWillett 3 years ago
This is an not an official channel and the comments posted from all sides do not in any way represent UKIP's position.
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
Miliband has made himself look a complete fool twice in his interview. First when he admitted he had never seen FITNA, (after he condemned it for being hate-filled towards muslims.) Eh? Second when he said there is no freedom of speech to cry 'FIRE' in a movie theatre. Oh but there is Mr.Miliband, if you can smell smoke and see the beginnings of a potential inferno beginning! In fact it is your civil duty to warn others of the possible dangers of a fire in the theatre and a crime not to - FOOL..
sidious76 3 years ago 4
Apparently for the UK government only islamic terrorists are welcome. Mr. Wilders is a respectable man and politician and he has the right to tell the truth about islam to all European citizens, even in UK.
breggotte 3 years ago 2
It is a sad day when free speech is undermined by religious fanatics. Religion must be relegated back to where it belongs with fortune tellers and street sorcerers. (sorry fortune tellers and street sorcerers) Religions have long been exposed as fraudulent scams designed to make greedy men powerful and rich. We must demand free speech for all and support Geert Wilders.
kaduisaui 3 years ago
This Lord Ahmed is a master lying snake,huh? Nice how he can sit there with a straight face and spout that "you cannot condemn a whole religion" crap. This "religion" condemns us all. extremeism in applying equal protection to all beliefs is turning out to be very dangerous. That multicultural equality extremism will make the extreme of one belief condeming all, very viable.
silvermillionaire 3 years ago
The government of the UK takes the stance that these "hate facts" must be banned because they simply can not be countered. Wilders is right, they are wrong, therefore they can only shut him up.
MrJowee 3 years ago 2
The gvt. of the UK makes only what the islamic rulers like Lord Ahmed want. And the British gvt. makes that not for the sake of the British people, but for the sake of the Pakistanis.
Kybeline 3 years ago
Lord Achmed gets pwned every time by Lord Pearson. Thats why he has to raise his voice, cause his views are completely biased. He is showing that moderate Muslims are a myth, there is no such thing.
UnyieldingDefiance 3 years ago 6
@UnyieldingDefiance If people truly believe in the Qur'an and want to follow what it says, then they will be inspired to commit attrocities in the name of Islam; that is what Muhammed did, and they must follow his example in order to be good Muslims.
MrYoungIndependence 1 year ago
Maybe becouse Koran indeed do contain "extreme hate speech" and that's the fact Londonistan dhimis are trying to cover up. Hate crime law don't have any sense at all anyway it's subjectivism of the law stright from medival times.
strategus999 3 years ago
Multiculturalists have routinely made rigorous claims that they will defeat their enemies in debate and, by proving their enemies to be wrong, somehow prove they are right.
I have never ever seen a multiculturalist engaged in a free debate. I have seen them lobby for laws to prevent dissent against their views by criminalising their opponents. I've seen them use intimidation. That's how they really work. I call it thuggery. Like his multicult sycophants Lord Ahmed is merely another thug.
HarryBallbag 3 years ago 10
What I find so amusing is that the people who support this banning of Geert Wilders are the actual hate mongers.
They call him all kinds of names, nothing to do with the substance of his arguments.And even threaten to kill him.
So who is hating who?
Batavian187 3 years ago 5
9/11 was an inside job, so for that guy to claim the "Islamists perpetrated everything you saw in that film" is false and immensely ignorant at best.
Chewbacca2000 3 years ago
lol irony
Zalman1337 3 years ago
Wilders certainly is shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre and he's doing it because we have a fire. If parliament keeps ignoring the problems of islam we are going to have an inferno on our hands.
RationalConclusion 3 years ago 20
Good for uk govermant, totaly agree with milliband
fucukfcuk 3 years ago
I am of Muslim ancestry, and I tell you unapologetically, Islam is not a religion of peace, Islam is a religion of submission of humanity to the will of Allah. The Quran is full of verses that insight violence as true with other religions. What I find most troubling is that Europe is turning into Eurabia. Europe has been silenced by Islamic intolerance, ignorance and violence nurtured by spineless European politicians.
Erbstank 3 years ago 18
I would be eager to hear your opinions on how, without causing undue offense, we might convey to practicing Muslims the fact that their religion does indeed promote violence. This is a conversation that needs to be had, but because Islam is a religion it is off limits for criticism. No other set of ideas is so closely protected from scrutiny.
jawday12345 3 years ago
I had never heard of the film...I watched it last night ,and all I can say is...I will make 6.000.000 copies for the lads in the ex -servicesmen club.
x
charliemctruth 3 years ago 8
Only 6.000.000? :)
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
Listen to all the idiot 'experts'
"i haven't seen this film"
"i haven't seen this film"
but I've heard from somebody that it contains 'hate' and 'extremism'.
Freedom of speech has been destroyed. Laws that have been in place for 300 years to achieve that have been ignored.
We live in dangerous times, where messages that are inconvenient to our government are those that are suppressed, whereas those that pander to religious minorities can be expressed freely.
GB904150 3 years ago 5
9.11, 7.7 and madrid was pulled off by western intelligence services. look up "operation gladio" its nothing new.
happosai21 3 years ago
Wow, the stupid British government equates Geert Wilders with psycho Muslims. The Muslims are not the ones crying out "Fire!" in the crowded theatre. They are the ones putting the theatre on fire, for real.
gabrielg01 3 years ago 6
The petition supporting Geert Wilders has now reached 30861 signatures.
That means:
• consistent weight for G. Wilder's defense
• support on G. Wilder's political engagements
• consideration regarding freedom of speech
• people awareness about the global islamization process
• pain in the ass to that bunch of islamist bigots
If you're concerned with the above statements then link to the petition and sign it now!
▬►The link is here on the upper right corner - see in (more info).
bernarnack 3 years ago 3
The U.K. has become George Orwells' nightmare. Fuck the labor party. They have ruined Britain with their immigration and "hate" laws.
breezeman199 3 years ago 8
mild muslim population?
MANCKIE 3 years ago 7
What happens when the truth promulgates hate?
Keylimedelight 3 years ago 4
Truth is no defence - Ask Mark Steyn
ukipwebmaster 3 years ago
LORD PEARSON IS AWESOME OMG
Evulmeh 3 years ago 7
Technically that would be Stalinist rather than Marxist.
bluecode320 3 years ago
Not surprised to see that the UKIP bigot Pat Condell has selected this video as one of his favorites.
condellwatch 3 years ago
Quite suprised to see 'the UKIP bigot Pat Condell' is one of the few names on your friends list.
Oops!
:)
salaciousone 3 years ago
Obsess much?
Sixthick66 3 years ago
The Koran is an evil book that teaches hate and genocide against all Pagan and Heathen people. Why is hate and murder against polytheists tolerated?
WyattKaldenberg 3 years ago 10
David milliband is a slimy bastard!
itsabomberscope 3 years ago 13
OK, the UKIP position on the threat of Islam is better than Lib/Lab/Con and just about does it for me. Still I don't like this meek repeated assertion that the "overwhelming" population of the Muslims are etc etc. You never see that "overwhelming" majority come out and demonstrate against Muslim violence. But they do come out in spades against Israel, Bush, Blair, so called "offensive" remarks about Islam etc etc. So I think the UKIP must be louder in their condemnation of Islamic violence.
HAZIDEAD 3 years ago 12