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  • why are these dim wits allowed to misrepresent the truth. I suggest that these 1/2 wits are reducing the magic and mystery of the world by such half arsed idea about a god. Only good news for them is they will never get to meet 'him' to be told 'You wasted your time on planet Miraculous'. So let me spell it out

    YOU are stupid and if you really let this totally wonderful event of life unfold, as it does anyway, you might feel a little insecure but then again you might experience real AWE.

  • Beware sneaky christians pressing boring bible verses!

  • Talks about a "creator" but it is assumed we know what or who this and what this "creator" intended. No evidence is given for this decidedly significant claim.

  • I do not believe intelligence can only be developed in social creatures and as an argument I don't think I have seen any scientist say that it only develops in social creatures, if so the information is outdated, or a very small percentage believes this to be true. Doesn't this counteract what religion tells of though? Isn't the properties of religion supposed to be somewhat based off of the fact that we are the only intelligence in the universe? So all in all the argument seems to be invalid.

  • how could mary have given birth to jesus if her hymen wasnt broken? her vagina wouldve been way too small to give birth and therefore would have died giving birth to him.

  • ...do you know what you're talking about?

  • Seriously? I have never heard any scientist attempt to explain that intelligence only evolves in social animals.

  • The fish Candiru is also evidence of God's greatness. It is alleged to crawl into the human male urethra, thereby preventing the spilling of seed, a sin prohibited in Gen 38:8-10. And don't get me started on how butt fungus glorifies the name of God!

  • Wow, God is really amazing huh!? ... all the shit he does, and then doesn't do.

    What a guy.

  • God created evolution.

    Debate over.

  • You are so stupid. Go hide away back in your church.

  • So God created smart octopuses and decided to make some humans born mentally retarded? What a wonderful God.

  • This isn't a video and should be removed from youtube. Also, creationists should be removed from anything having to do with biology or other sciences >_>

  • this is NOT a video

  • that was fucked im so confused

  • I think the only real mystery here is creationist intelligence. (And I'm using that term extremely liberally.)

  • this video misrepresents evolutionary theory

  • Agree - or disagree, why did I just sit here watching a picture????

  • The restriction of the term 'society' to peers of the same species is a false one: 'society' can also mean predators and prey, and in this understanding the example of the octopus is not contrary to evolutionary theory.

  • "The mystery of octopus intelligence" ... solved with an even greater mystery...

    You're doing it wrong guys!

  • It's an octopus, it inhabits the same earth we live on!

  • you say "creation" and people freak out.

    replace "god created the octopus with the ability to _________ "

    with "the octopus evolved the ability to __________"

    and thats really the only difference. god damn people.

  • @dieudutonnerre Whats wrong with the video? it only tells facts about the octopus, its not trying to convert you or anything

  • i dont understand why people are angry?

    it speaks only about how the octopus is inteligent

  • @ShiningforceHero ...and how creationists are not.

  • Wow, wish I had gone to one of your schools to get my degree. Instead I got my biotechnology degree from a shitty standard university where they failed to mention that evolutionary theory only predicts intelligence in social species. Yes this is sarcasm.

  • 9 out of 10 octopuses think Creation Moments is a worthless crock of shrimp turd.

  • @bikingforbrie Thank you.

    Find the love of God here.

    Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4u­aIjd3xs

  • Why is all creationist propaganda so cheesy? I mean, besides of its utter stupidity, it seems all produced, recorded, acted, voiced and edited by a bunch of amateurs with serious budget constraints.

  • @JennyFarlopez We don't have the Hollywood presentations you people have to fog your zombies. If you would like to donate, it would be greatly appreciated.

    The Good Test - h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=7JiE­SHIYIJg

  • @BereanBeacon1 Maybe if you had something of actual value to say you would find the resources.

  • @JennyFarlopez because most of the major producers are athiest because of BBC.

  • Did he fucking say octopuses? Is this supposed to be educational and they cannot even use the proper plural notifier? Octopi.

  • Wrong. Octopi are social. They even teach each other things.

  • Thank you for ruining someone else's documentary by adding your bullshit pop-ups in a feeble attempt to convert people to your faith. If your God wanted my soul, He'd send somebody much better than you and your youtube vid

  • WTF is this bullshit was trying to find a Cool video of the Cuttlefish being all smart and shit to show my friends and this is what I get . FFS is your life that bad that you have to lure people into your propoganda BS by misleading titles.

  • 6,000 years is way of mate

  • The correct plural word for octopus is octopuses or octopode, not octopi. More importantly, take your propoganda elsewhere.

  • Creation my ass.

  • hurray! creationist propaganda! Just what I wanted! After all who wants sceintific videos on something interesting when you can here grown adults defending fairy tales!

  • And B) Nowhere is it stated that social living is the ONLY path to intelligence.

    Really, how does cephalopod intelligence contradict evolution? It doesn't. It does, however, contradict the usual creationist idea that God set man apart from beats as "special" and above everything else. If anything, cephalopod intelligence is a clear WIN for evolution, a demonstration of how there is no one optimal path and creatures will adapt to a given set of circumstances.

  • Bah, evolution does NOT say intelligence must evolve as a response to dealing with living in social groups. Evolution doesn't really have a stake in what path is acceptable to reach a given target. Whatever is most suited to the environment, whatever works, works. That's it. Descent with modification.

    It is however stated that HUMANS evolved our intelligence as a way to cope with the complications of social living. But A) evolution itself doesn't say that, just the *history* of that evolution.

  • Dogmatic fools can only look at others beliefs also as dogmatic. Excuse me while i go puke.

  • New research has shown that they are even more intelligent than earlier studies revealed. These findings run counter to evolutionary theory, which says that intelligence evolves in social species to help them deal with social relationships.

    *********************

    OK. They were wrong. Intelligence can evolve in species with solitary lifestyles. Now what?

  • and what if these octopi evolve to be able to live like mermaids underwater, and probably worship idols and make false rligions like humans, that's a tag.

  • hahaha, these craetures might compete with apes!

  • Oh dear..."the octopus is not a social animal"...recent data from the Isle of Capri show exactly the opposite...a solitary animal moving to become a social animal living and hunting in social groupings...oh ohhhhh...evolution at work?

  • Being able adapt in any type of environment because of their intelligence? Sounds familiar to humans though humans are social animals

  • octopi have EVOLVED to be so intelligent and to learn how to deal with problems such as opening a jar, there very smart and they didnt just become smart at one moment in time and neither did we

  • What does this has to do with creationism? It's aknowledged by zoologists that the octopuses (or the cephalopods in general) have the highest level of intelligence of all invertebrate species. What's the point? Has that now been discovered by creationists? It has been discovered long ago by the "evolutionist" science.

  • filthy humans and their superstitions..

  • "And God created the octopus to his own image" -- Genesis 2.0

  • Having said the negative things I said, I want to give BereanBeacon a thumbs up for at least being willing to leave comments turned on, unlike so many other creationists views. That, at least, shows more integrity than most.

  • @neoaeonian So, if you're not willing to spend 50-60% of your day policing your own video threads against 16 year old trolls or answering every objection from dozens of atheist for years to come and therefore turn off your comments section you should be judged as having questionable integrity?

  • @4570sharps Re: not willing to spend 50-60% of you rday policing

    Point well taken. "Integrity" was a bad choice of words. Still, my thumbs up stands. I disagree with BereanBeacon, but I think it was courageous for BB to leave comments on.

  • This is such a strange filter to look at nature with.

    Point out a fact, any fact. Now find some way to use the fact to make some claim about God.

    Look an ocean wave.

    Imagine God's wisdom in creating that particular ocean wave at just this time, right when he knew I'd be looking and appreciate it.

    It's no wonder so little is being accomplished in science by this mindset. It wastes so much time fabricating a "how this fits into God's plan" story that no actual new information happens.

  • @neoaeonian heartily agreed. we should form our view of reality based on real, tangible observations, and not (near-psychotic) speculation.

  • @stabtheimage Yeah, like all those other "real"&"tangible observations" such as biogenesis & abusively exaggerating discoveries of biological change into a unifying theory of the origin of all biology. All while never EVER addressing the inherent logical & philosophical implications regarding the intentionality of design innate to all forms of life, the study of logic, mathematics or even subatomic particles. But lets just ignore all this n the pursuit of 'knowing' a godless reality.

  • @4570sharps abiogenesis is not taught as a "Darwin said it, I believe it, and that settles it for me." religion, but as a mysterious thing, not because we can't imagine how it could have happened, but because we know so many ways it could have happened, but the evolved creatures since then have eaten the evidence, so we don't know the precise course it took.

    I wish you naysayers would take the time to look at the evidence (even biblical)before being so sure of your invisible friend's role.

  • @neoaeonian Please reread my comments in context of what stabtheimage said, "we should form our view of reality based on real, tangible observations". The issue is not a matter of how u think abiogenesis might/could have happened but rather, as an ardent purveyor of atheistic naturalism, the absolute required belief that it MUST have happened b/c of your various presuppositions taken on faith just as if it were a religious "science said it, I believe it, that settles it".

  • @4570sharps I was like you, once, grasping at every straw where science hadn't yet filled in enough gaps. I did what you are doing now for over a decade, pointing fingers at the unfilled in holes of knowledge and saying, "See, you haven't explained this yet." But after watching science explain gap after gap and noticing that the creationists ignored each new discovery, I realized which side had the moral high ground, which side was honestly seeking answers, and which was just seeking tithes.

  • @4570sharps (part 2) I wish it was harmless. Sure these beliefs have benefits. They've helped end king's total rule, they've helped overrule elitisms that were inherently evil, and they've motivated people to do good, 'cause Santa's watching.

    But they've diverted resources away from solvable medical problems, blinded minds to the value of reality and rational thinking, and made prayer and wishful thinking a substitute for effort and reason. I like the baby, but wish we'd drop the bathwater.

  • @neoaeonian This is a logical fallacy. The admiration I have for my wife's beauty (or an ocean wave) is something ENTIRELY different then what might interest me in becoming a pulmonologist to study the health of my wife's lungs (or become an Oceanographer). The irony is that the exact opposite of your error is what is true. MUCH of medical & scientific history came about by people motivated by the love they had for God's people & His creation & therefore involved themselves in science.

  • @neoaeonian (Part 2) Let me also add that for a Christian creation can not be viewed only in terms of cold logic and scientific fact. We first see God's glory, purpose and meaning in all created things according to Colossians 1:16-17. Would you not fault a Christian as inconsistent in his or her worldview for doing anything less then that? And yet here you are misguidedly using false reasoning to try and find nonexistent nit-picky fault in us for acting on the truth.

  • @4570sharps Re: this is a logical fallacy (wife's lung example)

    You have a good point. And I can think of examples that are true to your point. Loma Linda University, a very fundamentalist religion based institution, does go to great lengths to study nature in a useful fashion, having made several medical breakthroughs.

    But the video errs in calling this evidence that pair bonding theory of intellectual selection in primates is wrong. Perhaps not the only approach, yes, but wrong, no?

  • If the increase in intelligence is beneficial enough to a species in any way, natural selection will benefit that particular animal and there's your evolution. I don't see where the theory of evolution states it's only for social interaction. Sure that's part of it, but to say that's all is...basically your typical creationist argument. Illogical.

  • Thanks for the upload!

  • kinda distracting to try to read the bible passages while listening to the speaker. otherwise, i enjoy these vids.

  • If thats the case,what about hellen keller who was literally a prisoner in her own body and she was deaf,couldnt speak,and couldnt see.It took another woman to help her break out of that shell and we now have american sign language.Helen was not a social creature yet she proved after learning ASL that she had the same thoughts and feelings as everyone else.Yet most christians of the time thought that either A:she did something to displease god and was punished,or B:That she was demon posessed

  • @ranchai100 that deaf, dumb and blind kid, sure didn't play a mean pinball. she did, however, fall into theosophy. and willingly went along. helen keller was an occultist

  • @ultrakool And your point is?My point was she had no contact with the outside world from infancy until she was taught ASL,but instead of answering my question as to the validity to the statements made in this video,you do the typical christian thing and dont answer said question and ridicule the person who proves this video wrong.

  • @ranchai100 no, she was just a person with meningitis that rendered her oblivious. asl made her aware of the material world around her and rendered her a bleeding-heart liberal. haha. she was still, however, an occultist

  • @ranchai100 dude how the hell are you talking about helen keller on an octopus video?

  • A bit of fluff, but I liked it.

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