i didn't realize these cartoon characters were so evil, and to think, after the war, they just got away w/ it all scot-free pretending like it never happened or that they weren't involved, sort of like the entire german population...
Not only Normandy, but a big part of France. More than 68000 French civilians were killed by allied bombings, mostly US, from 1942 to 1945. Entire cities were razed to the ground, like Saint Nazaire, Brest, Saint Lo, Vire, Le Havre, Le Portel, Lorient, Royan, Caen, and a lot of others were heavily damaged. Look on Wikipedia: Bombing of France during World War II
Sometimes I wonder if the world is really my thumb. Then, when I put my thumb in my butt, am I really pretending I am a huge pumpkin with a warthog woman.
Most of US fucks sum up French WW2 participation to Hollywood beret resistance craps,but forget that a regular French army took part at most of the fightings after 1942,from North Africa,until Germany. They were 1,3 million involved in 1945 on European theaters. US WW2 help was vital, but came almost at the end, when 80 % of German war machine was already destroyed on Russian front. French casualties of this war, 600000, were higher than all total US losses, on all fronts, Pacific/Europe,416800.
C'est un très rare exemple sorti des archives de la cinemathèque,et intégré au document de Claude Chabrol "L'oeil de Vichy". La plupart de ces films n'avaient pas de public autre que les sympathisants vychistes. Il faut savoir que dans beaucoup de salles, les informations n'étaient pas projetées dans la pénombre, car les sifflets et les huées n'étaient plus tolérés par l'occupant, et la police surveillait ceux qui auraient eu une "attitude terroriste".
Criticizing the Allied powers for most anything in WW2 is asinine. This is the war against Nazis right? You try running a war in 1942 before computers and tons of other technology and lets see how many people you don’t kill that were sadly in the way. The world was dangerously close to being run by monsters. Despite the bombs being dropped by the Allies… the ones responsible for even those deaths are those in the Axis alliance for making it necessary to be at war in the first place.
Criticizing the Allied powers for most anything in WW2 is asinine. This is the war against Nazis right? You try running a war in 1942 before computers and tons of other technology and lets see how many people you don’t kill that were sadly in the way. The world was dangerously close to being run by monsters. Despite the bombs being dropped by the Allies… the ones responsible for even those deaths are those in the Axis alliance for making it necessary to be at war in the first place.
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If the French could of protected treir own country in stead of letting get overrun by the Nazis it would of not needed a good bombing. The French seem ready to lay down their arms and surrender when they hear a pack of firecrackers go off.
You will be able to talk about wars,when you will experience a real one in your fake desert of history.France was the major power in Europe for centuries,when your mongrel inbreed was still in the balls of your Europeans ancestors.The French experienced 1500 years of wars in their backyards,not watching Hollywood craps,your big ass on the sofa,and contrary to you,they can enumerate people of their families who died in their land.Try to experience a battle as VERDUN.Ignorant fuck.
@Camarale My Mothers family comes down thru the Plantagenet of Britian (look it up).My fathers Noble German heritage at least to 1320. My GGGrandfather died in the battle of Worth August 6,1870. My Father went to France in WWII to rid the place of Nazis. Where would France be today without the U.S. in WWI and WWII? We are dear allies. I am just stating facts. And your name calling indicates to me that you are from the lower classes. Am I correct?
I'am not from the lower classes, and i'am bored to always read the same craps. WW1 US involvment was useful, but almost a joke compared to French participation. US troops lost around 130000 killed in less than 6 months of real fights.They came almost at the end,in 1917/18, when both Germans and French were exhausted. In the sole VERDUN battle, both losses reached almost 1 million. In WW1, the French lost 1,4 million killed and 4,5 million woundeds, for a population of 40 million.
And i remind you that German population in 1914 and 1940, around 73 million, was almost twice the French population, 40 million. It's easier to fight, when you can put more men on the battlefields. In WW2, the French lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks in May/June 1940,and inflicted 45000 fatalities and 111000 woundeds to Germans, before to give up. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at beginning of WW2, included Soviets who lost 4 million prisoners in the hands of Wehrmacht.
And i remind you that German population in 1914 and 1940, around 73 million, was almost twice the French population, 40 million. It's easier to fight, when you can put more men on the battlefields. In WW2, the French lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks in May/June 1940,and inflicted 45000 fatalities and 111000 woundeds to Germans, before to give up. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at beginning of WW2, included Soviets who lost 4 million prisoners in the hands of Wehrmacht.
It would have been funny to see US troops facing the German Blietzkrieg.Not pretty.US army was a joke in 1940. Most of the job in 1944/45, was made by US forces.US asses were often kicked on the ground. The difference between French and US citizens, is that the French experienced centuries of wars on their SOIL, due to the central location of France in Europe, not watching Hollywood craps. Through centuries, the French had to deal with continous invasions. That's the difference.
Only 1 time in 1500 years of wars. I think that you will be able to talk about wars, when you will experience a REAL one in your backyards, not watching Hollywood craps.
If you´d were receiving these bombs, at that time, you'd obviously see things very differently. War has left many casualties and destructions in France. This silly film, at that time, has certainly met a lot of support from French civilians who paid cash the price of their liberation. It's a very serious matter, laughing or teasing is not appropriate.
Récherchez à youtube: "Pétain besucht" et "Paris" et "1944". On sera voir "l'hilarité". Requiem dans Notre Dame pour les citoyens français morts, assassinés par les bombardements de terreur aerial, à Paris en avril 1944.
Pétain était élu par le parlement français par une election démocratique. Pour toi, c'est dommage? Pétain a conservé l'independence internelle de la France. La plupart de France, les socialistes inclus (Pierre Laval!), a reconnue et obéie le maréchal Pétain. À Paris en Avril 1944, des milliers ou une million ont acclamé leur chef d'état. L'histoire française est écrit sous De Gaulle avec dementie. Pétain était chef legitim, même sans ton acclamation.
The Vichy were collaborators. Their installations were legitimate targets. The German facilities in occupied France were, too. You can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs. The French are all about cooking, you think they'd understand.
@Blenderhead71 You're exactly right, the British made the right call on that. If the French fleet would have been captured, the entire situation in Africa would have changed.
WTF?? This is SICK!!! What exactly is the vichy propaganda?? i got a T-shirt with a strange picture on, where the father, mother and son have all the same face (an old man) and it writes LA PROPAGANE SOUS VICHY!! Can someone explaine to me?? I'me guessing something with brainwashing the people in the WW II.. But i can't quite figure out..
Mickey Mouse, pop eye, and Donald Duck were big in pre World War II France. Maybe that is why the Vichy Propaganda ministry chose these cartoon characters
Ah nos amis anglos saxons n'écoutaient pas ces faux français antisémites, xénophobes et fascistes. Vichy a heureusement disparu malheureusement dans sa chute il n'est pas tué tout les idiots qui le supportaient ou continuent à le faire.
Don't listen theses "frenchs" (not the true french from my point view) It's just facist, racist, anti-jews etc..Who like Vichy and the third Reich. Stupids fan of Hitler and Pétain.
Coudenhove preche dans son pamphlet plus haut cite la mort de l'europeen comme vehicule du Christianisme et son renplacement par une nouvelle rasse metisse afro-asiatique de religion musulmane et dirigee par une elite juive. Bref la destruction de l'exclusivite ethnique des nations de ce continemt, a l'exclusion d'Israel, A bon entendeur salut!
Although these intense bombing and heavy civilian casualties, it was obvious for the French that the enemy was Germany, in spite of the german an Vichy propagandas...The relationship between Pétain and the french people must be analyzed through the historical context...still there were no more than 40000 active collaborationnists.
@kaa13 There were more than 40000 collaborationists (police and the "milice"), but fortunately most of the French weren't. If only all Vichy high ranking could have been sentenced for what they did (I'm thinking of people like Papon or Bousquet).
@projet941 Papon Bousquet? Des heros de la Resistance contre le bolchevisme juif et le capitalisme juif! Honneur a leur memoire et a tous ceux qui on servi le Marechal, la France et l'Europe Libre de l'Axe! Nous avons tous besoin de tous ces Europeenes de l'Atlantique a l'Oural pour reprendre notre place en ce monde et renverser l'asservissement present!88!
vu tes propos, tu devrais plutot prendre un bouquin d'histoire et lire un peu. Peut etre il n'est pas trop tard mais j'en doute pour que ton cerveau reagisse
@daralex Je ne lis pas l'histoire des enjuives et islamises, des souffreteux de la shoa et des degobillages du peuple elu de Satan: les juifs et leurs leches-culs comme toi!
@daralex Richard Coudenhove-Calergi l'instigateur du mouvement Pan-Europeen d'apres guerre, a publie en 1924 un livre a tirage reduit "Idealisme pratique" a Vienne, Francfort &Zurich qui decrit le programme et les buts de la geo-politique des USA en Europe a partir de 1945 et qui correspond point par point a tout ce que nous vivons aujourdd'hui et qui est impose par la conspiration de Bruxelles; Jean Monet en faisait aussi partie.
c'est genial ca ! Apres avoir parlé de peuple de Satan, d'enjuivés, tu cites ton premier exemple argument en t'appuyant sur un mec qui était justement mariée à une juive et a du fuir l'oppression hitlerienne. Je m'incline lourdement devant ton argumentation :)
@daralex Lises le Testament de Pierre le Grand, lisez les Protocoles, lisez Leon Degrelle lisez Stephane Courtois, et comprenez ce que vous lisez si vous en avez le courage intellectuel, bonne chance.
léon degrelle -> un mec engagé dans la Waffen SS? tu es sérieux ou tu me fais une blague quand tu me parles de lire ce qu'il écrit ?.
Stephane courtois -> ancien directeur du CNRS connu pour ses vues atlantistes.
C'est bien de citer des exemples mais il faut surtout préciser le fond des choses et si possible objectivement... donc pas comme tu as résumé le livre de Coudenhove.
@daralex On faist du feu de tout bois sec! Lisez donc le livre "Praktischer Idealismus" de Coudenhove Calergi, si vous le trouvez, car il a ete retire du marche tres rapidement, apres avoir eu l'effet voulu; Il explique les Lois de Nuremberg et et toutes les autres prises en Europe Libre, ni communiste ni capitaliste, a cette epoque, vu que les gouvernements nationalistes connaissaient le pamphlet subversif; DeGrelle: Hitler ne a Versailles"
That was retaliation for the bombing of London, the low countries and others during the early stages of the war; of course it got out of hand with both sides believing in the false logic that somehow bombing each others cities to nothing would convince the other side to surrender. The biggest criticism of the bombing campaign was how the allies refused to bomb concentration camps and the railways leading up to them.
@mancubus47 Ca s'appelle la guerre. Oui, c'est très triste, tu remercieras l'armée allemande d'avoir voulu résister en Normandie plutôt qu'en Ile-de-France ou en Bourgogne.
Oui c'est vrai, lisez l'histoire reellle et vous pouvez faire le comte des victimes des bombardements anglo-americais sur notre pays qui d'ailleurs avait ete entrainer par un gouvernement irresponsable, aveugle et par l'Angleterrea declarer la guerre a l'Allemagne...Maintenant la France est a l'heure non seulement des cynagogues mais des mosquees. Beau travail non?
Et les resistants ou sont il? Hahaha! Pauvre France trahie!
@sjokolade777 je vois vraiment pas le rapport avec les synagogues et les mosquées. Quant aux résistants, je ne pense pas qu'il faille rire de leur engagement, sans compter que pour la plupart ils n'étaient pas américanophiles.
@sjokolade777 Je pense qu'on peut inventer un nouveau dicton : quand sjokolade777 me répond, je ne comprends plus ma question. HAHA... allez sans rancune. ;) 69 ! (chacun son truc)
Of course it would be that bastard Donald who'd blow up the nice French family. I just hope, wherever they are, that they've found their croissants and hot chocolate.
I'am sorry, but allied powers DID bomb France, and massively. Bombing of Germany's cities was a crime (750 000 victims), but France, which was supposed to be victim since it was OCCUPIED, is the second bombed European country after Germany in WW2. Two German soldiers hidden in a cellar, and a whole town was leveled by Mr Harris Avro Lancasters. 5000 victims in Le Havre don't feel indebted at all for having been "liberated" that way. The family in the cartoon is only one of thousands.
Right, and you didn't have to pass anti-Jewish statutes until asked. It didn't stop you from trying to get in the Nazis good books by persecuting Jews before even prompted by the Nazis.
I wouldn't be as ignorant as to trumpet on about crimes before a little introspection.
@Meinaufeldt bombing of french cities was a crime, because we were occupied by the nazis (70% of le havre had been destroyed by 1945). But as far as germany is concerned, they had already bombed extensively the bigger part of europe, among countless other crimes.
@Meinaufeldt I'm french. There were 5,000 deads in Le Havre. But what about deads and wounded of the D-Day ? Did you ever read about Omaha Beach and its 5,000 to 50,000 casualties in few hours ? And what about 9,000 killed, 47,500 wounded and 23,000 missing during the Battle of the Bulge ?
I'm not sorry, I'm grateful. And as my grand-parents never forget the joy to see american privates arriving in their little town in north of France, I won't forget.
@Meinaufeldt Your leader, Charles de gaulle told us to bomb it as it was necessary to destroy factories to prevent the Germans from being reinforced further, so France could be invaded and liberate it later. Yet judging from your attitude, perhaps it was a mistake to sacrifice ourselves to save your ungrateful French asses. Maybe you think France would have been better off as Hitler's bitch?
Gif your army had not have run away in 1940, and then surrender the country and all of France's equipment after only 3 weeks of the blitz, all of the bombing would not have been necessary.
And no it wasn't a "crime" the civilians died because of the accuracy of the weapons. Seeing your disposition toward the allies, maybe siding with the Nazis was what France had in mind all along.
@Meinaufeldt if your army had not have ran away in 1940, and then surrendered the country and all of France's equipment after only 3 weeks of the blitz, all of the bombing would not have been necessary.
And no it wasn't a "crime" the civilians died because of the accuracy of the weapons. Seeing your disposition toward the allies, maybe siding with the Nazis was what France had in mind all along.
The French didn't give up in 3 weeks in 1940, but in 6,and they lost 100000 killed and inflicted 45000 deads and 111000 woundeds to Germans.They also destroyed 30 % of the Luftwaffe,1000 Nazi planes destroyed and a further of 600 damaged.It probably helped England to not be crushed,during their air battle, a few weeks after. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at the start of WW2, included Soviets who lost million prisoners. US army would have been crushed like others.
@Camarale Uh..those numbers are all vastly inflated. During the entire 1940 campaign 'fall gelb' Germany only had 27,000 fatalities, 96,000 wounded, and 4,000 prisoners. They lost 1,000 aircraft, and only had 200 damaged, with 600 tanks knocked out against the British, France, and the low countries. They inflicted 5 times as many loses upon the allies, and in just one month crushed everyone but the UK.
@Camarale The US army would not have even been engaged, Hitler lacked the transport capability to reach the US mainland with sufficient numbers- not to mention support the logistically. Similarly to the UK, Hitler must first defeat the navy and achieve air superiority- and unlike the UK Hitler must cross an entire Ocean. Considering that Hitler lacked a surface fleet- other than BCs it would prove impossible for him to protect those ships.
US army was a joke in 1940.You should stop to bore us with your saved your ungrateful asses craps.67000 French civilians were killed by allied bombings, mostly US.Some raids were useless,as the bombings of Brest or Royan with napalm for instance.It's always easy to talk,watching Hollywood Ryan craps,a can of coke in the hand.During centuries,war were real things for the French in their land. The sole wars that US people have ever experienced are wars between drug dealers gangs.
@Meinaufeldt if you speak for all Frenchmen, then i want nothing further to do with them. If France agrees with your deplorable statement, do not come crying to the US,UK,Auss,Canada,NZ,Poland or any of the other allies who had good men killed trying to help you're ungreatful ass.
And i remind you,that a new French rebuilt army fought on most of WW2 theaters after 1942.Free French Forces were 1,3 million involved in Europe in 1945,and the 4th largest army of the allied.They fought everywhere,from North Africa to Italy, until Germany, and even Normandy with the 2nd Leclerc armored division.South of France was mostly liberated by them.Some ignorant US fucks should stop their craps. At least read WIKIPEDIA 2nd Leclerc armored division or Free French Forces.
@Camarale Free French forces where nothing of the sort, De Gaul had at the most 200,000 men split into 20 divisions at the end of the war, and thats me being generous and giving them all full strength and giving them the numbers of infantry divisions at that. , In 1942 De Gaul scarcely had 30,000 men- none of whom had been organized well and 2/3rds of them had been colonials.
France DID give up in 1 month, ever hear of the June 22 Armistice?
@Camaro As for the civilian loses, De Gaul ordered allied airpower to ignore the civilian costs and i agree with him. Tragic as it is, that is the price of victory- would you rather us had ignored German controlled industry and leave them alone? The factories had to be bombed. Maybe if France could fight none of that would have been necessary..
UK was saved by the Channel.Their troops were beaten on the ground,in Belgium and France in 1940. Concerning battle of France statistics, they need to be adjusted. German casualties were 27000 killed, and 18000 missing, so presumed dead.Most of French basic soldiers fought bravely, with,in some areas casualties ratio even worse than in Verdun,3000 killed/day.They were left by their high command.Don't forget too, that German population, 70 million, was almost twice the French.
@Camarale I never contested that they had been saved by the channle, in fact i stressed that point, and it is that basis from which they setup their army. Like the US, the UK placed great emphasis on it's fleet, knowing that in order for a enemy army to land, it must first secure an avenue of supply. This means that no mater how well the German ground forces could perform, it was wasted on the UK as they could not engage them.
@Camarale I'm not taking anything away from the French soldiers, they fought well and it was the command that had it's head up their ass. They had become timid and overtly cautious from the lessons of WW1. In fact French doctrine made it clear that a French commander could not commit to an attack unless he had perfect intelligence on the enemy's location.
French high command,mostly old generals,were still fighting the previous war.A trench war.Maginot line was the symbol of this.German units who frontly attacked these fortifications were wiped out.But the Blietzkrieg,a combination of air and armored forces,inflicted the biggest defeat in their history to the French.This new tactic crushed most of Europe,included Soviets.4 million Russian were taken prisoner. So, sometimes, i'am overbored of this French cowardice thing in the US.
Concerning US involvment, in 1944, no one deny that this contribution was vital. For the bombings, unfortunately, a lot of French civilians paid the biggest price. If most of the raids were useful, particularly on the railway network transportation system, or on factories, others were debattable. A city as Brest was razed to the ground at 95 %, to destroy the German U-boat base there. Only 1 US bomb reach the target. French schoolboys were killed on their banks by US bombings.
I suppose that it was the price for victory, but a lot of US uninformed jerks, i don't talk about you, often sum up WW2, to the US sacrifice, which was real, but need to be replaced on the context. Most of these pricks have no ideas of what French or in General European citizens experienced at this time. Thousands of 9/11 multiplicate by 1000. A big part of Europe was a pile of ruins in 1945, Germany first, but France was the second most bombed country of this war.
@Camarillo Rundstedt knew about this, and took advantage of it, estimating it would take the French army 2 weeks to react to any German thrusts and that the entire French military had essentially been immobile, meaning a perfect blitzkrieg opportunity.
@Meinaufeldt: The definition of a half truth is a whole lie. It is certainly true that much bombing occurred in France. Mostly this was concentrated in the corridor between Germany & Normandy. Focusing on trains & other roads which could be used to transport troops to the landing sites. This certainly did include the bombing of many towns along the route. Which could be used for refueling & such along those routes. It is called strategy & tactics. You could stand to learn a little on it.
@jemen19762010: No doubt you would if it was full of Jews. I can see exactly what kind of a person you are. The Nazis would hardly send their tank columns on "rr." You'd send them down the regular roads. ALL means of transport needed to be damaged. Even the remotest village has a road of some kind. If you have any particular cases you wish to discuss we can do so. otherwise. Sieg heil Komraden.
@Meinaufeldt Oui, c'est vrai. More French civilians died by Allied terror bombing against Paris, Rouen, Nantes, Nancy, Metz, Rennes, Caën, Calais, Marseille, Bordeaux than by Nazi reprisals against French résistance. The Vichy French government also recognized this. More French civilians were killed by Anglo-American bombers than during the WW2 front service, or in De Gaulle's units or from June 6, 1944 until August 31, 1944 in regular land war. For many, Libération meant Death.
The Americans never wanted to save France in the first place. We don't like frog eaters. We stayed out of the war for more than a year while the heinies had lots of fun plundering Paris. We didn't bomb anyone until Hitler declared war on us. Next time we destroy Germany, we will bypass France so you and the French can live together in your own poop.
@izeenoss Just before WWII America got a lot of economic interests in saving France. Also US was well known for being against Versailles Punishiment. But Germany Nationalists parties did agree in a point: Revenge with France, as in their political campaign advertisements. You are a punk revisionist.
France had become an enemy, sabotaging and betraying American Armies in the North African campaign.Vichy France was a puppet state of the Third Reich. Not to mention there wasn't much left, when the puppet state and Hitler had mulled the whole damn country over- or, would you like to see what the Germans did to London, to Eastern Russia, what the Japanese did to China, Korea, Pearl Harbor, Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines? What the allies did was not a crime- it was war.
@Meinaufeldt Very true. And of those who were killed in the bombings of Germany 100,000 were not even Germans but allied prisoners and foreign workers! The allied bombing campaign of WW2 was the most stupid, evil and pointless act of warfare in history. 67,000 French civilians were killed in the allied bombing raids.
@marcusantonius90, oh well would you had rather had the Nazis rule Europe? I would have never sent our troops to Europes aid in WWI or WWII. We were not attacked and now one had WMD's..LOL
Petain incarne une certaine idee de la vieille France traditionnelle.On peut le critiquer mais sur ces images,on le sent desabuse et on le trouve un peu pathetique.C'etait un vieillard depasse par les evenements.Ceux qui tiraient les ficelles etaient les hommes de son entourage, comme Laval.Cette periode restera comme la plus noire de l'histoire Francaise. Des atrocites sans nom ont ete commises de part et d'autres. A une epoque moderne, car 65 ans,ce n'est rien a l'echelle de l'histoire
mickey bombardeaba desde 3 y 6 km Paris en el 44 e hizo 60.000 victimas inocentes MAS QUE TODAS LAS VICTIMAS de la aviacion franquista en TODA la guerra de España
Thanks ! Yes, "collateral damages" were serious in 1943-1944. Anyway, getting rid of the hated Hun had a price, whether it was the French themselves who bombarded, as in WW1, or the Allies.
Right, marrying Carla Bruni was certainly Sarkozy's wisest political move since he was elected :-)
Non, ce dessin animé n'est pas un "fake", c'est un exemple des talents (réels) de la propagande Vichyste (cf. les discours de Philippe Henriot, un grand orateur qu'il a fallu tuer précisément pour cela).
Comme il n'y avait presque pas de TV à l'époque, ce genre de ce dessin animé passait au cinéma, avant le film.
Mais,en se referant aux chiffres,les bombardements des allies,principalement Americains,ont fait presque 80000 morts dans la population francaise. Certains de ces bombardements n'etant pas d'une utilite strategique evidente.
Bien sur,les Allemands ont commis des atrocites en fusillant des milliers de personnes,ou en detruisant des villes ou villages,dans le Vercors, ou a Oradour,qui est la tragedie la plus connue.
Les loges maconniques qui dominent tout en France,de la justice au fric,ont transforme tous les contestataires de la pensee unique en delinquant.Tout cela va finir en guerre civile.
Beaucoup de Francais resistent,et n'en pensent pas moins,mais malheureusement la France est une bureaucratie stalinienne sous la domination de l'ideologie de la pensee unique et de la politique du metissage obligatoire,organisee par les lobbies mondialistes,et qui vise a detruire la civilisation Europeenne.
Et quant a l'invasion actuelle,regardes plutot en direction des politicards Francais corrompus jusqu'a la moelle et totalement vendus a l' ideologie de la pensee unique et du nouvel ordre mondial qui a deja programme la disparition de la civilisation Europeeenne dans le grand metissage universel.
Le nouvel ordre mondial n'y est pour rien. Tu peux accuser les Américains autant que tu voudras, ce n'est pas ça qui arrêtra le métissage qui est un problème français voire européen.
Meme si la France n'etait pas seule a combattre en 14/18,c'est le pays qui a paye le prix le plus lourd. Il ne faut pas repeter les conneries de tous ces Anglosaxons incultes qui ne ratent jamais une occasion de cracher sur les Francais.
Les Francais ont collabore en 14/18,en repoussant pendant 4 ans les assauts Allemands et en perdant 1,4 million de soldats tues et 4,5 millions de blesses ? Verdun, la Marne,l'Argonne.Des batailles gagnees par les Francais.
Non, en 14 il y avait un esprit national après l'humiliation de 70 et c'est ce qui a fait que les soldats se sont battus bravement. A ce titre, 14-18 est une exception. Mais pour le reste, c'est l'apathie devant l'envahisseur (et ça l'est toujours). On peut résumer le nationalisme français par cette phrase: nous sommes apathiques, nous acceptons tout de tout le monde mais au moins nous ne sommes pas comme ces bouchers d'Américains... Rien que de la jalousie et de la frustration.
Israel resiste ? A deux doigts d'etre ecrasee pendant la guerre du KIPPOUR ? Et apres avoir recu une bonne fesse de la part du Hezzbollah.Merci aux USA protecteur.Quant a tes affirmations grotesques concernant la collaboration,ne dis pas n'importe quoi en resumant 1500 ans d'histoire Francaise aux miserables 4 ans de l'occupation.
Oui, en ayant à chaque fois 4 armées devant lui et le soutien de l'URSS à ses ennemis. Le problème français est plus profond que celui des 4 ans de collaboration, il s'agit d'une habitude à accepter l'envahisseur chez soi et cela depuis 1870. Les Français acceptent tout des étrangers qui vivent chez eux et c'est par frustration seulement qu'ils sont hostiles aux Américains, Israéliens, Russes etc...
Bientot la Chine vous enculera definitivement.C'est le debut de la fin POUR LE GANG DE FOUTEURS DE MERDE SIONISTE INTERNATIONAL. Bande de cloportes et de puants nuisibles.
Mon petit pays? Mon petit pays c'est la France, abruti...et ce n'est pas de gaieté de coeur que je vois ses habitants collaborer avec tous les envahisseurs possibles et imaginables depuis 60 ans. Israel est un pays qui résiste à l'envahisseur contrairement à la France, en cela je le respecte. Va rejoindre Le Pen et son pote Dieudo, ils t'expliqueront sûrement le sens du mot "Français".
Il n'y a que la verite qui blesse,MINABLE PEDALE SIONISTE.Ton petit pays de fouteurs de merde internationale existe sulement depuis 60miserables annees,alors que la France a une histoire glorieuse de plus de 1500 ans. Tout ce que vous savez faire,c'est foutre la merde partout ou vous le pouvez.
On se demande meme qui commande aux Etats Unis.Le vrai gouvernemet des USA se situe surement a Tel Aviv.Apres l'irak,ils vont peut etre ordonner a la marionnette Bush ou a son minable successeur d'attaquer l'Iran ?
Les Israeliens gagnent les guerres seuls ? En sucant au passage la bite des Etats Unis et tout leur pognon.Sans les USA,il ya longtemps qu'Israel aurait ete raye de la carte.
Pédale. Vous les frontistes, vous êtes en fait des ptites pédales grandes gueules qui ne savent que cracher sur tout ce qu'il y a de puissant dans ce monde. Alors écoute bien pédale, la France n'a pas gagné une guerre depuis 1870, tu fais partie d'un pays de vaincus et tu le resteras. Crache sur Israel, crache sur les USA, ça ne fera pas de toi un vainqueur pour autant.
Toutes les guerres ont engendre des massacres.Comme en Israel par exemple,ou l'armee faciste sioniste massacre impunement le peuple Palestinien,avec le silence total des medias et de l'ONU,a la botte des Nazis israeliens.Petite frappe puante du Betar.
C'est un chiffre global des pertes françaises sur toute la seconde guerre et encore je ne compte pas les civils. Les Israéliens eux gagnent des guerres seuls et ne sucent la bite de personne comme toi qui es un suceur d'Arabes et d'Allemands. Et non, je ne suis pas du Betar ptite tête.
Si les Allies ne visaient pas intentionnellement les civils Francais,ils n'en avaient pour autant rien a foutre si leurs raids causaient des milliers de morts dans la population Francaise.
dunno why you would call this hilarious. nothing about ww2 was funny.
tysonbfrance 3 weeks ago
Disney never did caroons that awefull
CliffieCharles 1 month ago
Casablanca
tean2269 2 months ago
what the hell is that popeye at 0:45?
janirwin16 2 months ago
i didn't realize these cartoon characters were so evil, and to think, after the war, they just got away w/ it all scot-free pretending like it never happened or that they weren't involved, sort of like the entire german population...
turquoise770 2 months ago
Micky "Isn't this France?"
Donald "Yes. BOMB THEM!!!!!!!!!!"
Ovechkin8IsGreat 4 months ago
Sadly, this is what happened when they bombed Normandy. The bombs completely missed their targets.
zeekyblahIV 4 months ago
@zeekyblahIV
Not only Normandy, but a big part of France. More than 68000 French civilians were killed by allied bombings, mostly US, from 1942 to 1945. Entire cities were razed to the ground, like Saint Nazaire, Brest, Saint Lo, Vire, Le Havre, Le Portel, Lorient, Royan, Caen, and a lot of others were heavily damaged. Look on Wikipedia: Bombing of France during World War II
Camarale 2 months ago
les bellicistes et leur propagande "sucrée "....
alberferdi1 7 months ago
America go home !
Vive la France, Vive l'Allemagne !
Sieg Heil Europa !
HeinrichvonKessler 7 months ago
very funny.
kitiowa 7 months ago
This reminds me of the Palestinian Mickey Mouse!
kimtiu 8 months ago
Sometimes I wonder if the world is really my thumb. Then, when I put my thumb in my butt, am I really pretending I am a huge pumpkin with a warthog woman.
parafleet 8 months ago
Vichy France is German france
kak672 8 months ago
Disney made propaganda against the Nazis for example the ducktators
kak672 8 months ago
This is not real. They used a real cartoon and altered it.
kak672 8 months ago
Bordel de merde! I never trusted Mickey Mouse! Now he besieges Paris since 1994! DOWN WITH DISNEY! Long live Vichy!
HondaFagScandal 8 months ago
L`Etat Francais is best regime in French history.
HeiligesReich2 9 months ago 2
Les postes de radio de l'époque étaient vachement résistant... même après la bombe et l'effondrement de la maison elle marche toujours :)
Germeka 9 months ago
Most of US fucks sum up French WW2 participation to Hollywood beret resistance craps,but forget that a regular French army took part at most of the fightings after 1942,from North Africa,until Germany. They were 1,3 million involved in 1945 on European theaters. US WW2 help was vital, but came almost at the end, when 80 % of German war machine was already destroyed on Russian front. French casualties of this war, 600000, were higher than all total US losses, on all fronts, Pacific/Europe,416800.
Camarale 10 months ago
C'est un très rare exemple sorti des archives de la cinemathèque,et intégré au document de Claude Chabrol "L'oeil de Vichy". La plupart de ces films n'avaient pas de public autre que les sympathisants vychistes. Il faut savoir que dans beaucoup de salles, les informations n'étaient pas projetées dans la pénombre, car les sifflets et les huées n'étaient plus tolérés par l'occupant, et la police surveillait ceux qui auraient eu une "attitude terroriste".
angel75020 10 months ago
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Criticizing the Allied powers for most anything in WW2 is asinine. This is the war against Nazis right? You try running a war in 1942 before computers and tons of other technology and lets see how many people you don’t kill that were sadly in the way. The world was dangerously close to being run by monsters. Despite the bombs being dropped by the Allies… the ones responsible for even those deaths are those in the Axis alliance for making it necessary to be at war in the first place.
mgrodzki 10 months ago
Criticizing the Allied powers for most anything in WW2 is asinine. This is the war against Nazis right? You try running a war in 1942 before computers and tons of other technology and lets see how many people you don’t kill that were sadly in the way. The world was dangerously close to being run by monsters. Despite the bombs being dropped by the Allies… the ones responsible for even those deaths are those in the Axis alliance for making it necessary to be at war in the first place.
mgrodzki 10 months ago
Shows the truth. Allied scum, traitors against Europe.
AveEvropa 11 months ago
@AveEvropa We won't bother next time then
TheSutty24 11 months ago
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If the French could of protected treir own country in stead of letting get overrun by the Nazis it would of not needed a good bombing. The French seem ready to lay down their arms and surrender when they hear a pack of firecrackers go off.
markslacke 1 year ago
@markslacke
You will be able to talk about wars,when you will experience a real one in your fake desert of history.France was the major power in Europe for centuries,when your mongrel inbreed was still in the balls of your Europeans ancestors.The French experienced 1500 years of wars in their backyards,not watching Hollywood craps,your big ass on the sofa,and contrary to you,they can enumerate people of their families who died in their land.Try to experience a battle as VERDUN.Ignorant fuck.
Camarale 10 months ago
@Camarale My Mothers family comes down thru the Plantagenet of Britian (look it up).My fathers Noble German heritage at least to 1320. My GGGrandfather died in the battle of Worth August 6,1870. My Father went to France in WWII to rid the place of Nazis. Where would France be today without the U.S. in WWI and WWII? We are dear allies. I am just stating facts. And your name calling indicates to me that you are from the lower classes. Am I correct?
markslacke 10 months ago
@markslacke
I'am not from the lower classes, and i'am bored to always read the same craps. WW1 US involvment was useful, but almost a joke compared to French participation. US troops lost around 130000 killed in less than 6 months of real fights.They came almost at the end,in 1917/18, when both Germans and French were exhausted. In the sole VERDUN battle, both losses reached almost 1 million. In WW1, the French lost 1,4 million killed and 4,5 million woundeds, for a population of 40 million.
Camarale 10 months ago
@markslacke
And i remind you that German population in 1914 and 1940, around 73 million, was almost twice the French population, 40 million. It's easier to fight, when you can put more men on the battlefields. In WW2, the French lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks in May/June 1940,and inflicted 45000 fatalities and 111000 woundeds to Germans, before to give up. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at beginning of WW2, included Soviets who lost 4 million prisoners in the hands of Wehrmacht.
Camarale 10 months ago
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@markslacke
And i remind you that German population in 1914 and 1940, around 73 million, was almost twice the French population, 40 million. It's easier to fight, when you can put more men on the battlefields. In WW2, the French lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks in May/June 1940,and inflicted 45000 fatalities and 111000 woundeds to Germans, before to give up. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at beginning of WW2, included Soviets who lost 4 million prisoners in the hands of Wehrmacht.
Camarale 10 months ago
@markslacke
It would have been funny to see US troops facing the German Blietzkrieg.Not pretty.US army was a joke in 1940. Most of the job in 1944/45, was made by US forces.US asses were often kicked on the ground. The difference between French and US citizens, is that the French experienced centuries of wars on their SOIL, due to the central location of France in Europe, not watching Hollywood craps. Through centuries, the French had to deal with continous invasions. That's the difference.
Camarale 10 months ago
@Camarale
Even if you experience centuries of war that is no excuse to ever give in to an occupying enemy!
RomeAndMarty4Ever 9 months ago
@RomeAndMarty4Ever
Only 1 time in 1500 years of wars. I think that you will be able to talk about wars, when you will experience a REAL one in your backyards, not watching Hollywood craps.
Camarale 9 months ago
Is this for real? Fascinating stuff
andres6868 1 year ago
If you´d were receiving these bombs, at that time, you'd obviously see things very differently. War has left many casualties and destructions in France. This silly film, at that time, has certainly met a lot of support from French civilians who paid cash the price of their liberation. It's a very serious matter, laughing or teasing is not appropriate.
ggirar 1 year ago
Récherchez à youtube: "Pétain besucht" et "Paris" et "1944". On sera voir "l'hilarité". Requiem dans Notre Dame pour les citoyens français morts, assassinés par les bombardements de terreur aerial, à Paris en avril 1944.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
Pétain était élu par le parlement français par une election démocratique. Pour toi, c'est dommage? Pétain a conservé l'independence internelle de la France. La plupart de France, les socialistes inclus (Pierre Laval!), a reconnue et obéie le maréchal Pétain. À Paris en Avril 1944, des milliers ou une million ont acclamé leur chef d'état. L'histoire française est écrit sous De Gaulle avec dementie. Pétain était chef legitim, même sans ton acclamation.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
cartoon by andré daix, this man got surprisingly very few sucess after june 1944...
cantor0305 1 year ago
and degaulle with the jew cliché... so stupid it become hilarious
cantor0305 1 year ago
ha ha felix the cat bombing france !
cantor0305 1 year ago
Vichy France was a silly place, and this propaganda only presses that point.
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
Vichy france was hilarious: cmon germans fuck our women, we are your allies!
1968userrgb 1 year ago
wtf
muscari1994 1 year ago
sale juif ahhhhhhhhhhh sieg heil!!!!!
MrSofien75 1 year ago
The Vichy were collaborators. Their installations were legitimate targets. The German facilities in occupied France were, too. You can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs. The French are all about cooking, you think they'd understand.
Blenderhead71 1 year ago
The sinking of the French fleet was justified, too.... If it had fallen into Nazi hands...well....but that's another story, I suppose.
Blenderhead71 1 year ago
@Blenderhead71 You're exactly right, the British made the right call on that. If the French fleet would have been captured, the entire situation in Africa would have changed.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
WTF?? This is SICK!!! What exactly is the vichy propaganda?? i got a T-shirt with a strange picture on, where the father, mother and son have all the same face (an old man) and it writes LA PROPAGANE SOUS VICHY!! Can someone explaine to me?? I'me guessing something with brainwashing the people in the WW II.. But i can't quite figure out..
FrostSalonica 1 year ago
Vichy France is best France
Ironzealot7531 1 year ago
French State was best regime in French history.
Revolution Nationale is superior than French Revolution.
HeiligesReich2 1 year ago
Totally inane. The cartoonist deserves to be guillotined.
mfcarlon 1 year ago
Mickey Mouse, pop eye, and Donald Duck were big in pre World War II France. Maybe that is why the Vichy Propaganda ministry chose these cartoon characters
v19d 1 year ago
France was liberated... in 1940.
Freez57fr 1 year ago 2
Ah nos amis anglos saxons n'écoutaient pas ces faux français antisémites, xénophobes et fascistes. Vichy a heureusement disparu malheureusement dans sa chute il n'est pas tué tout les idiots qui le supportaient ou continuent à le faire.
Don't listen theses "frenchs" (not the true french from my point view) It's just facist, racist, anti-jews etc..Who like Vichy and the third Reich. Stupids fan of Hitler and Pétain.
ushia1 1 year ago
@ushia1 Frenchees are Frenchees: not jews isalmist niggers etc... Hail Petain14!88!
NPDkampf 1 year ago
@ushia1
de toute façon dans 50 ans vous serez tous négres,alors a quoi bon ?? :)
le camp du "bien" les alliés ont gagné,mais vs verez d'ici qq annés le resultat de cette victoire LOL :)
Aterkomsten 1 year ago
@ushia1 LECHE CUL! Les arabes de l'invasion auront ta peau, tu seras saigne halal-cachere pour ta betise!88!
sjokolade777 9 months ago
Coudenhove preche dans son pamphlet plus haut cite la mort de l'europeen comme vehicule du Christianisme et son renplacement par une nouvelle rasse metisse afro-asiatique de religion musulmane et dirigee par une elite juive. Bref la destruction de l'exclusivite ethnique des nations de ce continemt, a l'exclusion d'Israel, A bon entendeur salut!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
Although these intense bombing and heavy civilian casualties, it was obvious for the French that the enemy was Germany, in spite of the german an Vichy propagandas...The relationship between Pétain and the french people must be analyzed through the historical context...still there were no more than 40000 active collaborationnists.
kaa13 1 year ago
@kaa13 There were more than 40000 collaborationists (police and the "milice"), but fortunately most of the French weren't. If only all Vichy high ranking could have been sentenced for what they did (I'm thinking of people like Papon or Bousquet).
projet941 1 year ago
@projet941 Papon Bousquet? Des heros de la Resistance contre le bolchevisme juif et le capitalisme juif! Honneur a leur memoire et a tous ceux qui on servi le Marechal, la France et l'Europe Libre de l'Axe! Nous avons tous besoin de tous ces Europeenes de l'Atlantique a l'Oural pour reprendre notre place en ce monde et renverser l'asservissement present!88!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
@sjokolade777
vu tes propos, tu devrais plutot prendre un bouquin d'histoire et lire un peu. Peut etre il n'est pas trop tard mais j'en doute pour que ton cerveau reagisse
daralex 1 year ago
@daralex Je ne lis pas l'histoire des enjuives et islamises, des souffreteux de la shoa et des degobillages du peuple elu de Satan: les juifs et leurs leches-culs comme toi!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
@sjokolade777
c'est marrant de mettre les "enjuives" et les "islamises" dans le même panier lol.
Tu as la chance de pouvoir dire ce que tu penses mais alors c'est tellement affligeant que cela ne peut que faire rire vu le stade que cela atteint.
Retourne à l'école, et alimente ton cerveau ca devient vital coco :)
daralex 1 year ago
@daralex Richard Coudenhove-Calergi l'instigateur du mouvement Pan-Europeen d'apres guerre, a publie en 1924 un livre a tirage reduit "Idealisme pratique" a Vienne, Francfort &Zurich qui decrit le programme et les buts de la geo-politique des USA en Europe a partir de 1945 et qui correspond point par point a tout ce que nous vivons aujourdd'hui et qui est impose par la conspiration de Bruxelles; Jean Monet en faisait aussi partie.
sjokolade777 1 year ago
@sjokolade777
c'est genial ca ! Apres avoir parlé de peuple de Satan, d'enjuivés, tu cites ton premier exemple argument en t'appuyant sur un mec qui était justement mariée à une juive et a du fuir l'oppression hitlerienne. Je m'incline lourdement devant ton argumentation :)
daralex 1 year ago
@daralex Lises le Testament de Pierre le Grand, lisez les Protocoles, lisez Leon Degrelle lisez Stephane Courtois, et comprenez ce que vous lisez si vous en avez le courage intellectuel, bonne chance.
sjokolade777 1 year ago
@sjokolade777
léon degrelle -> un mec engagé dans la Waffen SS? tu es sérieux ou tu me fais une blague quand tu me parles de lire ce qu'il écrit ?.
Stephane courtois -> ancien directeur du CNRS connu pour ses vues atlantistes.
C'est bien de citer des exemples mais il faut surtout préciser le fond des choses et si possible objectivement... donc pas comme tu as résumé le livre de Coudenhove.
daralex 1 year ago
@daralex On faist du feu de tout bois sec! Lisez donc le livre "Praktischer Idealismus" de Coudenhove Calergi, si vous le trouvez, car il a ete retire du marche tres rapidement, apres avoir eu l'effet voulu; Il explique les Lois de Nuremberg et et toutes les autres prises en Europe Libre, ni communiste ni capitaliste, a cette epoque, vu que les gouvernements nationalistes connaissaient le pamphlet subversif; DeGrelle: Hitler ne a Versailles"
sjokolade777 1 year ago
Very good film, it shows the truth very clearly
Schoggodrops 1 year ago 10
Best propaganda movie ever!
The "good" side kill people to!
Bad side win the war!
wallentin76 1 year ago
sp: he was chucked in jail for life
hipeter924 1 year ago
That was retaliation for the bombing of London, the low countries and others during the early stages of the war; of course it got out of hand with both sides believing in the false logic that somehow bombing each others cities to nothing would convince the other side to surrender. The biggest criticism of the bombing campaign was how the allies refused to bomb concentration camps and the railways leading up to them.
hipeter924 1 year ago
ce dessin anime resume bien la mentalite de la fropaguande fishiste,celui qui parle a la france n est autre que la caricature dun juif
WargofLeGracve 1 year ago
I will never look at Donald the same way again.
oystercultviking 1 year ago
J'habite en Normandie,la moitié du pays a été détruit par ces bombardements...et ils n'étaient pas allemands!
mancubus47 1 year ago
@mancubus47 Ca s'appelle la guerre. Oui, c'est très triste, tu remercieras l'armée allemande d'avoir voulu résister en Normandie plutôt qu'en Ile-de-France ou en Bourgogne.
chiisanawani 1 year ago
owned lol
Teranex 1 year ago
Trust Disney To Get The Job Done!
TheresAGhostInMyBeer 2 years ago
i didint get it
kootzyyy 2 years ago
Donald Duck and Popeye...on a plane?
It would be more fitting using Navy artillery...
Germeka 2 years ago 2
Mdr XD
Freez57fr 2 years ago
Oui c'est vrai, lisez l'histoire reellle et vous pouvez faire le comte des victimes des bombardements anglo-americais sur notre pays qui d'ailleurs avait ete entrainer par un gouvernement irresponsable, aveugle et par l'Angleterrea declarer la guerre a l'Allemagne...Maintenant la France est a l'heure non seulement des cynagogues mais des mosquees. Beau travail non?
Et les resistants ou sont il? Hahaha! Pauvre France trahie!
sjokolade777 2 years ago 3
@sjokolade777 je vois vraiment pas le rapport avec les synagogues et les mosquées. Quant aux résistants, je ne pense pas qu'il faille rire de leur engagement, sans compter que pour la plupart ils n'étaient pas américanophiles.
pinelopipopi 9 months ago
@pinelopipopi Vous noyez le poisson dans l'eau.88!
sjokolade777 9 months ago
@sjokolade777 Je pense qu'on peut inventer un nouveau dicton : quand sjokolade777 me répond, je ne comprends plus ma question. HAHA... allez sans rancune. ;) 69 ! (chacun son truc)
pinelopipopi 9 months ago
Of course it would be that bastard Donald who'd blow up the nice French family. I just hope, wherever they are, that they've found their croissants and hot chocolate.
newguy90 2 years ago 3
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sjokolade777 2 years ago 3
I'am sorry, but allied powers DID bomb France, and massively. Bombing of Germany's cities was a crime (750 000 victims), but France, which was supposed to be victim since it was OCCUPIED, is the second bombed European country after Germany in WW2. Two German soldiers hidden in a cellar, and a whole town was leveled by Mr Harris Avro Lancasters. 5000 victims in Le Havre don't feel indebted at all for having been "liberated" that way. The family in the cartoon is only one of thousands.
Meinaufeldt 2 years ago 24
Right, and you didn't have to pass anti-Jewish statutes until asked. It didn't stop you from trying to get in the Nazis good books by persecuting Jews before even prompted by the Nazis.
I wouldn't be as ignorant as to trumpet on about crimes before a little introspection.
smoochym 2 years ago
Meinaufeldt
Your right, the US should have minded its own business.
After all is France worth the life of a single American?
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
@Meinaufeldt bombing of french cities was a crime, because we were occupied by the nazis (70% of le havre had been destroyed by 1945). But as far as germany is concerned, they had already bombed extensively the bigger part of europe, among countless other crimes.
projet941 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt Tu as parfaitement raison camarade! 88! On ne le repetera jamais de trop!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt The allied powers bombed in every axis country even in Countries that were held by the axis. Thankyou for bringing it up.
v19d 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt I'm french. There were 5,000 deads in Le Havre. But what about deads and wounded of the D-Day ? Did you ever read about Omaha Beach and its 5,000 to 50,000 casualties in few hours ? And what about 9,000 killed, 47,500 wounded and 23,000 missing during the Battle of the Bulge ?
I'm not sorry, I'm grateful. And as my grand-parents never forget the joy to see american privates arriving in their little town in north of France, I won't forget.
Radumo 1 year ago 2
@Meinaufeldt
Are u a pacifist, or what?
NathanRomml 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt Your leader, Charles de gaulle told us to bomb it as it was necessary to destroy factories to prevent the Germans from being reinforced further, so France could be invaded and liberate it later. Yet judging from your attitude, perhaps it was a mistake to sacrifice ourselves to save your ungrateful French asses. Maybe you think France would have been better off as Hitler's bitch?
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
Gif your army had not have run away in 1940, and then surrender the country and all of France's equipment after only 3 weeks of the blitz, all of the bombing would not have been necessary.
And no it wasn't a "crime" the civilians died because of the accuracy of the weapons. Seeing your disposition toward the allies, maybe siding with the Nazis was what France had in mind all along.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt if your army had not have ran away in 1940, and then surrendered the country and all of France's equipment after only 3 weeks of the blitz, all of the bombing would not have been necessary.
And no it wasn't a "crime" the civilians died because of the accuracy of the weapons. Seeing your disposition toward the allies, maybe siding with the Nazis was what France had in mind all along.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
The French didn't give up in 3 weeks in 1940, but in 6,and they lost 100000 killed and inflicted 45000 deads and 111000 woundeds to Germans.They also destroyed 30 % of the Luftwaffe,1000 Nazi planes destroyed and a further of 600 damaged.It probably helped England to not be crushed,during their air battle, a few weeks after. All Europe was crushed by German blietzkrieg at the start of WW2, included Soviets who lost million prisoners. US army would have been crushed like others.
Camarale 1 year ago
@Camarale Uh..those numbers are all vastly inflated. During the entire 1940 campaign 'fall gelb' Germany only had 27,000 fatalities, 96,000 wounded, and 4,000 prisoners. They lost 1,000 aircraft, and only had 200 damaged, with 600 tanks knocked out against the British, France, and the low countries. They inflicted 5 times as many loses upon the allies, and in just one month crushed everyone but the UK.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@Camarale The US army would not have even been engaged, Hitler lacked the transport capability to reach the US mainland with sufficient numbers- not to mention support the logistically. Similarly to the UK, Hitler must first defeat the navy and achieve air superiority- and unlike the UK Hitler must cross an entire Ocean. Considering that Hitler lacked a surface fleet- other than BCs it would prove impossible for him to protect those ships.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
US army was a joke in 1940.You should stop to bore us with your saved your ungrateful asses craps.67000 French civilians were killed by allied bombings, mostly US.Some raids were useless,as the bombings of Brest or Royan with napalm for instance.It's always easy to talk,watching Hollywood Ryan craps,a can of coke in the hand.During centuries,war were real things for the French in their land. The sole wars that US people have ever experienced are wars between drug dealers gangs.
Camarale 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt if you speak for all Frenchmen, then i want nothing further to do with them. If France agrees with your deplorable statement, do not come crying to the US,UK,Auss,Canada,NZ,Poland or any of the other allies who had good men killed trying to help you're ungreatful ass.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
And i remind you,that a new French rebuilt army fought on most of WW2 theaters after 1942.Free French Forces were 1,3 million involved in Europe in 1945,and the 4th largest army of the allied.They fought everywhere,from North Africa to Italy, until Germany, and even Normandy with the 2nd Leclerc armored division.South of France was mostly liberated by them.Some ignorant US fucks should stop their craps. At least read WIKIPEDIA 2nd Leclerc armored division or Free French Forces.
Camarale 1 year ago
@Camarale Free French forces where nothing of the sort, De Gaul had at the most 200,000 men split into 20 divisions at the end of the war, and thats me being generous and giving them all full strength and giving them the numbers of infantry divisions at that. , In 1942 De Gaul scarcely had 30,000 men- none of whom had been organized well and 2/3rds of them had been colonials.
France DID give up in 1 month, ever hear of the June 22 Armistice?
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@Camaro As for the civilian loses, De Gaul ordered allied airpower to ignore the civilian costs and i agree with him. Tragic as it is, that is the price of victory- would you rather us had ignored German controlled industry and leave them alone? The factories had to be bombed. Maybe if France could fight none of that would have been necessary..
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
UK was saved by the Channel.Their troops were beaten on the ground,in Belgium and France in 1940. Concerning battle of France statistics, they need to be adjusted. German casualties were 27000 killed, and 18000 missing, so presumed dead.Most of French basic soldiers fought bravely, with,in some areas casualties ratio even worse than in Verdun,3000 killed/day.They were left by their high command.Don't forget too, that German population, 70 million, was almost twice the French.
Camarale 1 year ago
@Camarale I never contested that they had been saved by the channle, in fact i stressed that point, and it is that basis from which they setup their army. Like the US, the UK placed great emphasis on it's fleet, knowing that in order for a enemy army to land, it must first secure an avenue of supply. This means that no mater how well the German ground forces could perform, it was wasted on the UK as they could not engage them.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@Camarale I'm not taking anything away from the French soldiers, they fought well and it was the command that had it's head up their ass. They had become timid and overtly cautious from the lessons of WW1. In fact French doctrine made it clear that a French commander could not commit to an attack unless he had perfect intelligence on the enemy's location.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
French high command,mostly old generals,were still fighting the previous war.A trench war.Maginot line was the symbol of this.German units who frontly attacked these fortifications were wiped out.But the Blietzkrieg,a combination of air and armored forces,inflicted the biggest defeat in their history to the French.This new tactic crushed most of Europe,included Soviets.4 million Russian were taken prisoner. So, sometimes, i'am overbored of this French cowardice thing in the US.
Camarale 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
Concerning US involvment, in 1944, no one deny that this contribution was vital. For the bombings, unfortunately, a lot of French civilians paid the biggest price. If most of the raids were useful, particularly on the railway network transportation system, or on factories, others were debattable. A city as Brest was razed to the ground at 95 %, to destroy the German U-boat base there. Only 1 US bomb reach the target. French schoolboys were killed on their banks by US bombings.
Camarale 1 year ago
@XxxSakura101
I suppose that it was the price for victory, but a lot of US uninformed jerks, i don't talk about you, often sum up WW2, to the US sacrifice, which was real, but need to be replaced on the context. Most of these pricks have no ideas of what French or in General European citizens experienced at this time. Thousands of 9/11 multiplicate by 1000. A big part of Europe was a pile of ruins in 1945, Germany first, but France was the second most bombed country of this war.
Camarale 1 year ago
@Camarillo Rundstedt knew about this, and took advantage of it, estimating it would take the French army 2 weeks to react to any German thrusts and that the entire French military had essentially been immobile, meaning a perfect blitzkrieg opportunity.
XxxSakura101 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt: The definition of a half truth is a whole lie. It is certainly true that much bombing occurred in France. Mostly this was concentrated in the corridor between Germany & Normandy. Focusing on trains & other roads which could be used to transport troops to the landing sites. This certainly did include the bombing of many towns along the route. Which could be used for refueling & such along those routes. It is called strategy & tactics. You could stand to learn a little on it.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto Right. I'd bomb out a whole village of 5 000 people living in a rural area far from factories or rr tracks for giggles too.
jemen19762010 1 year ago
@jemen19762010: No doubt you would if it was full of Jews. I can see exactly what kind of a person you are. The Nazis would hardly send their tank columns on "rr." You'd send them down the regular roads. ALL means of transport needed to be damaged. Even the remotest village has a road of some kind. If you have any particular cases you wish to discuss we can do so. otherwise. Sieg heil Komraden.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt Oui, c'est vrai. More French civilians died by Allied terror bombing against Paris, Rouen, Nantes, Nancy, Metz, Rennes, Caën, Calais, Marseille, Bordeaux than by Nazi reprisals against French résistance. The Vichy French government also recognized this. More French civilians were killed by Anglo-American bombers than during the WW2 front service, or in De Gaulle's units or from June 6, 1944 until August 31, 1944 in regular land war. For many, Libération meant Death.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
@Meinaufeldt
The Americans never wanted to save France in the first place. We don't like frog eaters. We stayed out of the war for more than a year while the heinies had lots of fun plundering Paris. We didn't bomb anyone until Hitler declared war on us. Next time we destroy Germany, we will bypass France so you and the French can live together in your own poop.
izeenoss 1 year ago
@izeenoss Just before WWII America got a lot of economic interests in saving France. Also US was well known for being against Versailles Punishiment. But Germany Nationalists parties did agree in a point: Revenge with France, as in their political campaign advertisements. You are a punk revisionist.
miguelmouta 11 months ago
@Meinaufeldt
France had become an enemy, sabotaging and betraying American Armies in the North African campaign.Vichy France was a puppet state of the Third Reich. Not to mention there wasn't much left, when the puppet state and Hitler had mulled the whole damn country over- or, would you like to see what the Germans did to London, to Eastern Russia, what the Japanese did to China, Korea, Pearl Harbor, Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines? What the allies did was not a crime- it was war.
ludicrus32 11 months ago
@Meinaufeldt Very true. And of those who were killed in the bombings of Germany 100,000 were not even Germans but allied prisoners and foreign workers! The allied bombing campaign of WW2 was the most stupid, evil and pointless act of warfare in history. 67,000 French civilians were killed in the allied bombing raids.
marcusantonius90 11 months ago
@marcusantonius90, oh well would you had rather had the Nazis rule Europe? I would have never sent our troops to Europes aid in WWI or WWII. We were not attacked and now one had WMD's..LOL
superskidoos 10 months ago
@Meinaufeldt you trying to be a prick or are you just stupid?
The Germans and their allied buddies started it, and were the evil ones.
You need a good thrashing boy, idiotic apologist of the Nazis.
emperoreitan 10 months ago
Petain incarne une certaine idee de la vieille France traditionnelle.On peut le critiquer mais sur ces images,on le sent desabuse et on le trouve un peu pathetique.C'etait un vieillard depasse par les evenements.Ceux qui tiraient les ficelles etaient les hommes de son entourage, comme Laval.Cette periode restera comme la plus noire de l'histoire Francaise. Des atrocites sans nom ont ete commises de part et d'autres. A une epoque moderne, car 65 ans,ce n'est rien a l'echelle de l'histoire
Camarale 2 years ago
mickey bombardeaba desde 3 y 6 km Paris en el 44 e hizo 60.000 victimas inocentes MAS QUE TODAS LAS VICTIMAS de la aviacion franquista en TODA la guerra de España
bluexxg 2 years ago
Tres Bien! It was wrong to attack French civilians since they were not the enemy and this American, at least, is sorry for that.
In any case, I think Sarkozy's wife is really hot! Much better than Michelle Obama and her manly arms. Vive le France!
raguila11 2 years ago
Thanks ! Yes, "collateral damages" were serious in 1943-1944. Anyway, getting rid of the hated Hun had a price, whether it was the French themselves who bombarded, as in WW1, or the Allies.
Right, marrying Carla Bruni was certainly Sarkozy's wisest political move since he was elected :-)
Fridomfry 2 years ago
Dude, this is Vichy French propaganda...you know, NAZI supporters?
PumaOPumaOPumaO 2 years ago
This is reality... hahaha! Look to the British SS! Hahaha They are fighting against islamisation of Britain and betrayors in own ranks...Hahaha!
sjokolade777 2 years ago
Si cette vidéo n'est pas un fake, alors c'est une excellente trouvaille!
kanavah 2 years ago
Non, ce dessin animé n'est pas un "fake", c'est un exemple des talents (réels) de la propagande Vichyste (cf. les discours de Philippe Henriot, un grand orateur qu'il a fallu tuer précisément pour cela).
Comme il n'y avait presque pas de TV à l'époque, ce genre de ce dessin animé passait au cinéma, avant le film.
Fridomfry 2 years ago 2
oui ça correspond bien à ce que j'ai trouvé sur Henriot. Merci.
kanavah 2 years ago
Je ne pense pas que les cartoonists de Vichy s'emmerdaient avec ce genre de details. Surtout que les etatusniens etaient leurs ennemis a l'epoque.
Camarale 2 years ago
ben justement, c'est exactement ça le mauvais gout de la propagande
kanavah 2 years ago
Je me demande si ils avaient payé des droits d'auteurs à la walt disney pour les personnages
Raminagrobisfr 2 years ago
haha les voix sont tordantes.
Perversus666 2 years ago
Marechal Nous Voila!!!!
AntiCominternPact 3 years ago
Mais,en se referant aux chiffres,les bombardements des allies,principalement Americains,ont fait presque 80000 morts dans la population francaise. Certains de ces bombardements n'etant pas d'une utilite strategique evidente.
Camarale 3 years ago
Bien sur,les Allemands ont commis des atrocites en fusillant des milliers de personnes,ou en detruisant des villes ou villages,dans le Vercors, ou a Oradour,qui est la tragedie la plus connue.
Camarale 3 years ago
je me demande si les dessinateurs vichystes avaient payé les droits à dinsey pour utiliser ses personnages
Raminagrobisfr 3 years ago
Mickey est le symbole de la bétise amèricaine.
legorret1 3 years ago
La propagande utilise toujours des carricatures, surtout quand elle est à court d'arguments politiques.
kanavah 2 years ago
Hahah that was best propaganda I ever seen :D
Go Vichy, no matter how filthy you were!
Kuhlfurst 3 years ago 10
C'est une caricature, mais la verité. Les allemands n'ont pas detruits la cathédrale de Rennes, ou bombardée Nantes.
IustitiaPax 3 years ago
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you are all french n00bs
razorwrecked 3 years ago
Adieu
JoeTyler85 3 years ago
Les loges maconniques qui dominent tout en France,de la justice au fric,ont transforme tous les contestataires de la pensee unique en delinquant.Tout cela va finir en guerre civile.
Camarale 3 years ago
Beaucoup de Francais resistent,et n'en pensent pas moins,mais malheureusement la France est une bureaucratie stalinienne sous la domination de l'ideologie de la pensee unique et de la politique du metissage obligatoire,organisee par les lobbies mondialistes,et qui vise a detruire la civilisation Europeenne.
Camarale 3 years ago
Et quant a l'invasion actuelle,regardes plutot en direction des politicards Francais corrompus jusqu'a la moelle et totalement vendus a l' ideologie de la pensee unique et du nouvel ordre mondial qui a deja programme la disparition de la civilisation Europeeenne dans le grand metissage universel.
Camarale 3 years ago
Le nouvel ordre mondial n'y est pour rien. Tu peux accuser les Américains autant que tu voudras, ce n'est pas ça qui arrêtra le métissage qui est un problème français voire européen.
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Meme si la France n'etait pas seule a combattre en 14/18,c'est le pays qui a paye le prix le plus lourd. Il ne faut pas repeter les conneries de tous ces Anglosaxons incultes qui ne ratent jamais une occasion de cracher sur les Francais.
Camarale 3 years ago 4
Les Francais ont collabore en 14/18,en repoussant pendant 4 ans les assauts Allemands et en perdant 1,4 million de soldats tues et 4,5 millions de blesses ? Verdun, la Marne,l'Argonne.Des batailles gagnees par les Francais.
Camarale 3 years ago 2
Non, en 14 il y avait un esprit national après l'humiliation de 70 et c'est ce qui a fait que les soldats se sont battus bravement. A ce titre, 14-18 est une exception. Mais pour le reste, c'est l'apathie devant l'envahisseur (et ça l'est toujours). On peut résumer le nationalisme français par cette phrase: nous sommes apathiques, nous acceptons tout de tout le monde mais au moins nous ne sommes pas comme ces bouchers d'Américains... Rien que de la jalousie et de la frustration.
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Israel resiste ? A deux doigts d'etre ecrasee pendant la guerre du KIPPOUR ? Et apres avoir recu une bonne fesse de la part du Hezzbollah.Merci aux USA protecteur.Quant a tes affirmations grotesques concernant la collaboration,ne dis pas n'importe quoi en resumant 1500 ans d'histoire Francaise aux miserables 4 ans de l'occupation.
Camarale 3 years ago
Oui, en ayant à chaque fois 4 armées devant lui et le soutien de l'URSS à ses ennemis. Le problème français est plus profond que celui des 4 ans de collaboration, il s'agit d'une habitude à accepter l'envahisseur chez soi et cela depuis 1870. Les Français acceptent tout des étrangers qui vivent chez eux et c'est par frustration seulement qu'ils sont hostiles aux Américains, Israéliens, Russes etc...
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Bientot la Chine vous enculera definitivement.C'est le debut de la fin POUR LE GANG DE FOUTEURS DE MERDE SIONISTE INTERNATIONAL. Bande de cloportes et de puants nuisibles.
Camarale 3 years ago
Mon petit pays? Mon petit pays c'est la France, abruti...et ce n'est pas de gaieté de coeur que je vois ses habitants collaborer avec tous les envahisseurs possibles et imaginables depuis 60 ans. Israel est un pays qui résiste à l'envahisseur contrairement à la France, en cela je le respecte. Va rejoindre Le Pen et son pote Dieudo, ils t'expliqueront sûrement le sens du mot "Français".
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Il n'y a que la verite qui blesse,MINABLE PEDALE SIONISTE.Ton petit pays de fouteurs de merde internationale existe sulement depuis 60miserables annees,alors que la France a une histoire glorieuse de plus de 1500 ans. Tout ce que vous savez faire,c'est foutre la merde partout ou vous le pouvez.
Camarale 3 years ago
On se demande meme qui commande aux Etats Unis.Le vrai gouvernemet des USA se situe surement a Tel Aviv.Apres l'irak,ils vont peut etre ordonner a la marionnette Bush ou a son minable successeur d'attaquer l'Iran ?
Camarale 3 years ago
Les Israeliens gagnent les guerres seuls ? En sucant au passage la bite des Etats Unis et tout leur pognon.Sans les USA,il ya longtemps qu'Israel aurait ete raye de la carte.
Camarale 3 years ago 2
Pédale. Vous les frontistes, vous êtes en fait des ptites pédales grandes gueules qui ne savent que cracher sur tout ce qu'il y a de puissant dans ce monde. Alors écoute bien pédale, la France n'a pas gagné une guerre depuis 1870, tu fais partie d'un pays de vaincus et tu le resteras. Crache sur Israel, crache sur les USA, ça ne fera pas de toi un vainqueur pour autant.
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Toutes les guerres ont engendre des massacres.Comme en Israel par exemple,ou l'armee faciste sioniste massacre impunement le peuple Palestinien,avec le silence total des medias et de l'ONU,a la botte des Nazis israeliens.Petite frappe puante du Betar.
Camarale 3 years ago
C'est un chiffre global des pertes françaises sur toute la seconde guerre et encore je ne compte pas les civils. Les Israéliens eux gagnent des guerres seuls et ne sucent la bite de personne comme toi qui es un suceur d'Arabes et d'Allemands. Et non, je ne suis pas du Betar ptite tête.
Glennovicz 3 years ago
Si les Allies ne visaient pas intentionnellement les civils Francais,ils n'en avaient pour autant rien a foutre si leurs raids causaient des milliers de morts dans la population Francaise.
Camarale 3 years ago