I was on one of these recently. The incessant tilting and lateral movement made me feel really sick to my stomach and I spent most of the journey in the space between carriages trying not to vomit. For some reason, facing either in the direction of travel or the other way made me seriously nauseous, yet if I stuck my forehead against the door (which felt nice and cool), so basically facing outside, the nausea receeded. Go figure.
I'll agree with you on that. I travel on the pendolino fairly regularly and unless I sit at the end of the coach, with a clear view of the whole train tilting ie. facing the direction of travel with a view of the whole carriage, I start to feel quite naseous. It eases as the train slows down though.
Its a well known fact flying is safer their are less accidents .Their are more train crashes and deaths . These tilting trains need removing from our tracks as we are inreasing the chance of these units having major accidents inside and out . I have educated Yowmanypussy and Clusterfuck on this issue go to these Trolls for more advice
@GreatBarrWolf@GreatBarrWolf@GreatBarrWolf@GreatBarrWolf Umm lets see how many planes crash a year and how many people usualy get out alive if one crashes? now put that to how many trains crash or derail in a year and how many people die from that. In 2009 planes 1,103 deaths with 122 serious incidents there has been other years when incidents hav been higher or lower but the point is only 1 of these pendolinos has derailed only due to 'dodgy points' oh and one person died on it
@GreatBarrWolf They are 100% safe and 70% safer than aircraft there not going anywhere by 2012 Four new Pendolinos on order will come into operation and all the rolling stock will all be increased from 9 to 11 carriages thats the latest news
@GreatBarrWolf Just saying, That there has only ever been 1 major train accident involving these trains, I think it was 2004, Only 1 person died, if a plane crashed, (Which many Do) Usually the whole crew and passengers would die. :(
They are very smooth trains to go on u can feel the tilt inside but it doesent knock or move cups off tables planes crash every day more than trains do they are safer if there was a safety issue it would be the track not these trains cus they can survive any derailment if one occurs and passengers will survive unlike on a 747 if that crashed no-one has a chance
If you have a cup of tea or glass of water on the table does it topple off ? also why are these trains not stopping to check if anyone needs to get on ?
@GreatBarrWolf The force down as it goes round a corner should keep the glass on a table. These trains are fast services and do not stop at stations like these, they go non stop from London to more main destinations and station.
@v390 You state the force down SHOULD keep the glass on the table . Should doesnt mean it will definately stay on the table . Are there secure cup glass holders etc ? Also if you were to be walking along the passage way and the train tilted would you be forced over onto passengers seated in chairs ? Would i be correct in assuming that full health and safety issues have not been thought through correctly ?
@GreatBarrWolf There are the odd occasions when your cup starts to slide but it never goes far and no there aren't holders. And when you are standing, if it was to tilt you may wobble around a bit, but as most people grab onto the hand hold's whilst walking through the train it's usually ok. To be honest I would say you are more likely to fall over in a non-tilting trrain as they tend to be all over the place where as Pendolino's are quite smooth. Am I right in guessing you haven't been on one?
@v390 Yes you are correct i have not been on one of these trains . Its a long time since i have travelled on a train however i may make a trip on one of these pendolino units to observe the situation.
@GreatBarrWolf Well they have been running for 8 years and no one has been injured by the tilt... Your first comment "why are they not stopping to see if anyone wants to get on" explains why you do not seem to know much about trains.
@v390 your stating the obvious thats why im asking the question , i think these mass transit vehicles could infact be dangerous to travel on at the high speeds that they reach . I would also like to ask if there are seat belts in these capsules ?
@GreatBarrWolf no these "capsules".. coaches do not have seat belts, these trains are perfectly safe and im sure they will be fine without you going to inspect them :)
@v390 Who mentioned any type of inspection v 390 ? I simply said if i had the time i would take a journey on one of these units to observe the left and right movement of these mechanical passenger rail vehicles . Until i do ignaramous hold your tounge !!!! understood ???
Actually the tilting will stop you from leaning in the turn as while in a normal train you would lean out of the curve due to the lateral force applied on due to centripetal force. In a tilting train the carriage tits and so really the tilting will make staying upright around a curve much easier because instead of experiencing lateral force you will only feel a downward force.
Travelling a lot on these trains, I can say that my tea never moves, aside from when I lift it up to drink it. It can get bumpy at times, but that's more a reflection of the trackwork around our major stations. Coming in Manchester Piccadilly is always fun!
And they aren't stopping as Berkhamstead is a little town. The pendolinos serve big cities/towns. Eg. a service pattern of London Euston - Milton Keynes - Stoke on Trent - Stockport - Manchester.
2 questions! Do the Voyayers tilt as well as the pendo do? Also the electro-stars on the C2C line whine loudly as they speed up, the pendos don't seem to do this but yet speed up quicker than the electro-stars. what is different? regards Paul
Hi, Virgin's "Super Voyagers" do tilt, but only tilt at 6 Degrees, whereas Pendolino's tilt at 8 Degrees. I'm not sure about the whining on electrostars, but at a guess i'd say its probably just depends on the motor/engine that the train has.
Love the video..................................excellent quality as always. I am wondering if they ever join two of the sets together like the TGC etc do?
Thanks, Don't think they join 390's together for service as it wouldn't fit on the platform. Have seen a 390+221 coupled together on a test run, but other than that no they don't join them. Regards
Going on a Pendolino from London Euston non-stop through Watford Junction, sitting on the left-hand side (direction of travel) just south of the station there's pretty cool tilt there. Also try Stoke-On-Trent to London Euston also sitting on the left-hand side (direction of travel) as another great tilt a bit like Berkhamsted with one direction then suddenly the other. Love the Pendolinos!
they DO tilt when theyre stopped actually... go to penrith in cumbria if you get the chance station like this but no way near as many and when you get off there is a huge step on 1 side and almost a step up on the other =)
Pendolinos tilt so they can go around bends smoothly. It is NOT the angle of the track and platform. The first clip is a brilliant tilt... watch it and tell me that's the angle of track and platform?
If you read the comment to which i replied, i said the trains do NOT tilt when stationary. The gap described when you get off the train in Penrith, IS caused by the angle of the track and platform. The track is always at an angle on stations positioned on a curve, to allow clearance between the train and the platform edge. And just to note, the trains tilt, to allow higher speed cornering, not so it can go round bends smoothly.
There are 6 motored cars and each of these has 2 motors (12 motors altogether). The train config is: motor, motor, transformer, motor, trailer, motor, transformer, motor, motor.
Im sure i heard that they can do 0-100mph-0 in something like 100 seconds.
The tilt system is electric motors that drive a linear ram (in a combined actuator) and there is one actuator per bogie (18 on the train). The pantographs also tilt, the opposite way to the carriage so it stays pretty much flat to the catenery.
These trains are extremely fascinating to me! When the cars/train "tilts" when in a curve... is this a completely "passive thing" (the cars are on some kind of suspension and just the forces make the cars tilt)-- OR, is there a more mechanical deal at work here, like there is some kind of mechanism/power/motor that actually "pushes" (tilts) the cars into a tilted position as they go into (approach??) a curve?? Thanks!
The reason I am wondering, is that I noticed (I think!!) that some of the trains in the video, that even on a straight track (but a curve visible ahead), the train appeared to be ALREADY tilting even just before heading into the curve...???
I believe that there is a motor tilting the cars as the 1st bogie is on the corner. If you goto OfficialVirginTrains youtube channel, there are some tilt videos from the cab of the train. v390
There are things a few metres before a curve called a TASS beacon which tells the train to tilt left, right or to centre it back into position if it is going over a certain speed. When the first carriage moves over the TASS beacon, the other carriages follow the first carriage so it shouldn't be tilted on a straight. If it was, someone's coffee would probably slip off the table :P
As far as I know its a hydrolically operated suspension system that tilts the cars to the optimum angle. It uses spirit level sensors, together with bogie angle data and speed data to minimise lateral forces on passengers and equalise weight distribution on the rails. Each car is invidually activated, and tilts as soon as the bogie angle of that car changes. I think.....lol
There are gyroscopes in some boxes mounted on the leading bogie, these detect the changes in lateral acceleration as the train goes into the corner and then the computers on the train determine how far to tilt the carriages in sequence.
The computers also receive the speed of the train from other systems on the train, so the carriages tilt at the right time.
How are these trains powered?? I am guessing the power isn't coming just from the lead unit (like in American trains)... but maybe the carriages in ALL the cars are providing power?? Those horns, especially when they do the dual-tone deal, are awesome!!!
The Pendolino's are powered by the overhead wires, With a pantograph on the front of the 3rd coach. The formation of the motor cars is 1st (cab-motor), 2nd (trailer), 3rd (pantograph-motor), 4th (trailer), 5th (motor), 6th (trailer), 7th (pantograpth-motor), 8th (trailer), 9th (cab-motor)
Thanks v390! Another question related to power: These things appear to me that they can REALLY accelerate. For example in the video, there was one that was not going really fast, and you could hear the motors 'reving up' and looked like it accelerated EXTREMELY rapidly. Any stats on how fast these trains are capable of accelerating (0 to ?? in ?? sec/minutes)??
I think what your hearing is the wheels gliding over the track as Pendolinos have pretty much no sound at all. I will try to find out how fast they accelerate.
Also note that the two pantographs are not up at the same time, but up in the direction of travel..so a Pendolino leaving London Euston will have the pantograph up at the front (3rd coach)...but a train arriving at London Euston will have other pantograph up instead -- if that all makes sense. Interestingly enough the 3rd carriage is 'The Shop' and I believe the 7th carriage is the 1st Class Quiet Coach/Zone........
It is useful to have two pantographs, particularly if there happened to be a failure with one of them -- instead of waiting for a Thunderbird (Virgin livery Class 57) rescue loco they can just use the other pantograph (I think). I haven't heard of a Pendolino running with both pantographs up however they may do this at some point if they perhaps need more power from the OLE, particularly if they upgrade the WCML to a faster running speed it might require both pantographs.
They will never operate both pantos at once (the wave effect on the line at high speed of 2 pantos stresses the wire a lot and also reduces the contact efficency of the second pantograph). The leading one is selected automatically from which ever cab end is driving, although I would imagine there is a manual selection overide for if there is a fault with one as you suggested.
The pantograph is selected by the driver when he sets his cab up. The train is configured so it is impossible to run with both pans up. Running with both pantographs up, would not take anymore power from the OLE. Both transformers are fed by one raised pantograph.
They do 125mph on some of the straight sections, though this wa 85 mph I think. the can do 140mph but are limited due to the old-tech signaling systems on the WCML.
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mattyt51 9 hours ago
Just out of curiosity, at what angle is the first Pendolino in the video tilting at?
yoshmosh85 1 month ago
inside i mean.
WorldCupToday 1 month ago
You can't tell that they go that fast.
WorldCupToday 1 month ago
@WorldCupToday Yeah you can
v390 1 month ago
i ****ing love Pendolinos, i have these as my dekstop background, i am 16 and i hope to drive one some day
MegaPepsimax 3 months ago 3
@MegaPepsimax Join the club! :P
v390 3 months ago
god they go fast there
MAGLEVTGV99 6 months ago
i just love the pendolino its just amazing a looks great
TheGamerKing14 6 months ago
@TheGamerKing14 I agree!
v390 6 months ago
Hey! I live there!
Clubpenguinrocks4455 7 months ago
Why are the stations empty?
2001videoman 8 months ago
@2001videoman I filmed these on the fast lines where no passenger trains stop, there were probably a few people on the slow line platforms
v390 8 months ago
@MRmilner98 So they can go around curves faster.
v390 9 months ago
Great Video, Liked! :)
60103Henry 10 months ago
Why are the drivers tooting their horns? Because they saw you filming?
xashleykamix 11 months ago
@xashleykamix Yes.
v390 11 months ago
sorry, 4.23
fouloleron2002 1 year ago
4.30 station staff hit enthusiast with shovel.
fouloleron2002 1 year ago
0:38, I think one of the wheels has a flat.
gokaydince 1 year ago
I was on one of these recently. The incessant tilting and lateral movement made me feel really sick to my stomach and I spent most of the journey in the space between carriages trying not to vomit. For some reason, facing either in the direction of travel or the other way made me seriously nauseous, yet if I stuck my forehead against the door (which felt nice and cool), so basically facing outside, the nausea receeded. Go figure.
SingHouse 1 year ago
@SingHouse
I'll agree with you on that. I travel on the pendolino fairly regularly and unless I sit at the end of the coach, with a clear view of the whole train tilting ie. facing the direction of travel with a view of the whole carriage, I start to feel quite naseous. It eases as the train slows down though.
vulgarmachine2 1 year ago
Its a well known fact flying is safer their are less accidents .Their are more train crashes and deaths . These tilting trains need removing from our tracks as we are inreasing the chance of these units having major accidents inside and out . I have educated Yowmanypussy and Clusterfuck on this issue go to these Trolls for more advice
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
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@GreatBarrWolf @GreatBarrWolf @GreatBarrWolf @GreatBarrWolf Umm lets see how many planes crash a year and how many people usualy get out alive if one crashes? now put that to how many trains crash or derail in a year and how many people die from that. In 2009 planes 1,103 deaths with 122 serious incidents there has been other years when incidents hav been higher or lower but the point is only 1 of these pendolinos has derailed only due to 'dodgy points' oh and one person died on it
suncoolclose 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf They are 100% safe and 70% safer than aircraft there not going anywhere by 2012 Four new Pendolinos on order will come into operation and all the rolling stock will all be increased from 9 to 11 carriages thats the latest news
suncoolclose 1 year ago
@suncoolclose I heard that only 32 are going to be upgraded from 9-11.
wightsnowolf 1 year ago
@wightsnowolf No bud all of them are as far as im aware looking at this article which was wrote last August on railnews:co:uk
suncoolclose 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf Just saying, That there has only ever been 1 major train accident involving these trains, I think it was 2004, Only 1 person died, if a plane crashed, (Which many Do) Usually the whole crew and passengers would die. :(
wightsnowolf 1 year ago
@wightsnowolf The crash was in Feb 2007
v390 1 year ago
@v390 Thx for help :P
wightsnowolf 1 year ago
They are very smooth trains to go on u can feel the tilt inside but it doesent knock or move cups off tables planes crash every day more than trains do they are safer if there was a safety issue it would be the track not these trains cus they can survive any derailment if one occurs and passengers will survive unlike on a 747 if that crashed no-one has a chance
suncoolclose 1 year ago
clusterfuk lmfao what a silly name for a silly little indivdual
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
love the way some drivers spot the camera and give a toot
pjt1974 1 year ago
I wish there were trains like this in Canada:(
swisscosmo 1 year ago
awsome tilt! i just love the pendolinos!
hstadam94 1 year ago
The trains over in britain are like really fast but over here in ireland they go so slow serch some vids :) Good video by the way
DeanMarshall1998 1 year ago
I feel sorry for the people that haven't worked out GreatBarrWolf is a troll.
Yownanymous 1 year ago
@Yownanymous your a no 1 pillock pmsl
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf HERPADERP.
Yownanymous 1 year ago
If you have a cup of tea or glass of water on the table does it topple off ? also why are these trains not stopping to check if anyone needs to get on ?
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf The force down as it goes round a corner should keep the glass on a table. These trains are fast services and do not stop at stations like these, they go non stop from London to more main destinations and station.
v390 1 year ago
@v390 You state the force down SHOULD keep the glass on the table . Should doesnt mean it will definately stay on the table . Are there secure cup glass holders etc ? Also if you were to be walking along the passage way and the train tilted would you be forced over onto passengers seated in chairs ? Would i be correct in assuming that full health and safety issues have not been thought through correctly ?
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf There are the odd occasions when your cup starts to slide but it never goes far and no there aren't holders. And when you are standing, if it was to tilt you may wobble around a bit, but as most people grab onto the hand hold's whilst walking through the train it's usually ok. To be honest I would say you are more likely to fall over in a non-tilting trrain as they tend to be all over the place where as Pendolino's are quite smooth. Am I right in guessing you haven't been on one?
v390 1 year ago
@v390 Yes you are correct i have not been on one of these trains . Its a long time since i have travelled on a train however i may make a trip on one of these pendolino units to observe the situation.
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf Well they have been running for 8 years and no one has been injured by the tilt... Your first comment "why are they not stopping to see if anyone wants to get on" explains why you do not seem to know much about trains.
v390 1 year ago
@v390 your stating the obvious thats why im asking the question , i think these mass transit vehicles could infact be dangerous to travel on at the high speeds that they reach . I would also like to ask if there are seat belts in these capsules ?
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf no these "capsules".. coaches do not have seat belts, these trains are perfectly safe and im sure they will be fine without you going to inspect them :)
v390 1 year ago
@v390 Who mentioned any type of inspection v 390 ? I simply said if i had the time i would take a journey on one of these units to observe the left and right movement of these mechanical passenger rail vehicles . Until i do ignaramous hold your tounge !!!! understood ???
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf You are an idiot...pure and simple...just give it a rest.
clusterfak 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf
Actually the tilting will stop you from leaning in the turn as while in a normal train you would lean out of the curve due to the lateral force applied on due to centripetal force. In a tilting train the carriage tits and so really the tilting will make staying upright around a curve much easier because instead of experiencing lateral force you will only feel a downward force.
linuxbot3000 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf OMG you are such a dick!
156499SuperSprinter 1 year ago
@156499SuperSprinter I beg your pardon SS!!!!
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf Please don't beg
156499SuperSprinter 1 year ago
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GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@156499SuperSprinter Is Your Mom aware you talk to men you dont know about DICK ???
GreatBarrWolf 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf aye my mum is aware is yours?
156499SuperSprinter 1 year ago
@GreatBarrWolf
Travelling a lot on these trains, I can say that my tea never moves, aside from when I lift it up to drink it. It can get bumpy at times, but that's more a reflection of the trackwork around our major stations. Coming in Manchester Piccadilly is always fun!
And they aren't stopping as Berkhamstead is a little town. The pendolinos serve big cities/towns. Eg. a service pattern of London Euston - Milton Keynes - Stoke on Trent - Stockport - Manchester.
vulgarmachine2 1 year ago
Love the one that sounds like a motorbike, lol. The tilt is even more exciting when you are on board.
fouloleron2002 1 year ago
@fouloleron2002 It is!
v390 1 year ago
2 questions! Do the Voyayers tilt as well as the pendo do? Also the electro-stars on the C2C line whine loudly as they speed up, the pendos don't seem to do this but yet speed up quicker than the electro-stars. what is different? regards Paul
PJSouthall 1 year ago
Hi, Virgin's "Super Voyagers" do tilt, but only tilt at 6 Degrees, whereas Pendolino's tilt at 8 Degrees. I'm not sure about the whining on electrostars, but at a guess i'd say its probably just depends on the motor/engine that the train has.
v390 1 year ago
Love the video..................................excellent quality as always. I am wondering if they ever join two of the sets together like the TGC etc do?
ridingsman 1 year ago
Thanks, Don't think they join 390's together for service as it wouldn't fit on the platform. Have seen a 390+221 coupled together on a test run, but other than that no they don't join them. Regards
v390 1 year ago
Lol
v390 2 years ago
amazing video great horns amazing tilting action and good quality filming
supervoyger 2 years ago
Cheers!
v390 2 years ago
some of the class 390s sounds different
SDOTzz2 2 years ago
thats fast
SDOTzz2 2 years ago
woot pendolinos
richie456438 2 years ago
Great Vid!
37401MadRich 2 years ago
Thanks!
v390 2 years ago
wow! fantastic video! was recommended by louis lol. One of his "crew" lol as he says
itfcsam 2 years ago
its the suspension witch makes it tilt
jamieplatt123 2 years ago
How does that work then?
humftamuft 2 years ago
So awesome, love the way they tilt, I love travelling on them from London to Birmingham
1stevecoppell 2 years ago
They have the cutest horns.
SPTSuperSprinter156 2 years ago
why do the Pendolinos go soo fast when they approach a station?
aaronblueyonder1 3 years ago
0.52 & 1.02 u can hear class 321 pulling out :P
djmadboy2 3 years ago
Nice tones and a great vid, great pendolino action there.
No1Tubefan 3 years ago
i like the tilt it looks kool
penguinboy2k8 3 years ago
Pendolinos are one of the most beautiful things to run on todays railways.
ForeverSilver 3 years ago 14
Tilt my Lordzz!!Great video 5*****. Think I'll go & run my Pendolino now.Cheers
ay76 3 years ago
i love it when i'm onbord a vt pendolino to london euston and it tilts when pass through berkhamsted station, but anyway awsome video
:-)
hstadam94 3 years ago 6
Going on a Pendolino from London Euston non-stop through Watford Junction, sitting on the left-hand side (direction of travel) just south of the station there's pretty cool tilt there. Also try Stoke-On-Trent to London Euston also sitting on the left-hand side (direction of travel) as another great tilt a bit like Berkhamsted with one direction then suddenly the other. Love the Pendolinos!
UKTrainMan 3 years ago
thanks mate i love it!!
bigcsoldiers 3 years ago
how do you get on when thay stop??
IDOANYVIDS 3 years ago
The do not tilt when they are stopped.
OfficialVirginTrains 3 years ago 2
oh right thanks
IDOANYVIDS 3 years ago
they DO tilt when theyre stopped actually... go to penrith in cumbria if you get the chance station like this but no way near as many and when you get off there is a huge step on 1 side and almost a step up on the other =)
mattiev8795 3 years ago
That's just the angle of the track and platform. These trains do not tilt when stationary. Not when in passenger service anyway ;)
humftamuft 3 years ago
Pendolinos tilt so they can go around bends smoothly. It is NOT the angle of the track and platform. The first clip is a brilliant tilt... watch it and tell me that's the angle of track and platform?
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If you read the comment to which i replied, i said the trains do NOT tilt when stationary. The gap described when you get off the train in Penrith, IS caused by the angle of the track and platform. The track is always at an angle on stations positioned on a curve, to allow clearance between the train and the platform edge. And just to note, the trains tilt, to allow higher speed cornering, not so it can go round bends smoothly.
humftamuft 2 years ago
Penrith station is on a curve and the track is heavily canted as many high speed trains don't stop there.
jamesbaileyuk 2 years ago
Extremely good video!
Thank you for posting!
screamorelse 3 years ago
There are 6 motored cars and each of these has 2 motors (12 motors altogether). The train config is: motor, motor, transformer, motor, trailer, motor, transformer, motor, motor.
Im sure i heard that they can do 0-100mph-0 in something like 100 seconds.
The tilt system is electric motors that drive a linear ram (in a combined actuator) and there is one actuator per bogie (18 on the train). The pantographs also tilt, the opposite way to the carriage so it stays pretty much flat to the catenery.
moocowmoneybox 3 years ago
These trains are extremely fascinating to me! When the cars/train "tilts" when in a curve... is this a completely "passive thing" (the cars are on some kind of suspension and just the forces make the cars tilt)-- OR, is there a more mechanical deal at work here, like there is some kind of mechanism/power/motor that actually "pushes" (tilts) the cars into a tilted position as they go into (approach??) a curve?? Thanks!
Squawk7600 3 years ago 2
The reason I am wondering, is that I noticed (I think!!) that some of the trains in the video, that even on a straight track (but a curve visible ahead), the train appeared to be ALREADY tilting even just before heading into the curve...???
Squawk7600 3 years ago 2
I believe that there is a motor tilting the cars as the 1st bogie is on the corner. If you goto OfficialVirginTrains youtube channel, there are some tilt videos from the cab of the train. v390
v390 3 years ago
There are things a few metres before a curve called a TASS beacon which tells the train to tilt left, right or to centre it back into position if it is going over a certain speed. When the first carriage moves over the TASS beacon, the other carriages follow the first carriage so it shouldn't be tilted on a straight. If it was, someone's coffee would probably slip off the table :P
StapledNote 3 years ago
As far as I know its a hydrolically operated suspension system that tilts the cars to the optimum angle. It uses spirit level sensors, together with bogie angle data and speed data to minimise lateral forces on passengers and equalise weight distribution on the rails. Each car is invidually activated, and tilts as soon as the bogie angle of that car changes. I think.....lol
soundseeker63 3 years ago
oop no actually the tilt IS electronically operated... not hydrolic
soundseeker63 3 years ago
There are gyroscopes in some boxes mounted on the leading bogie, these detect the changes in lateral acceleration as the train goes into the corner and then the computers on the train determine how far to tilt the carriages in sequence.
The computers also receive the speed of the train from other systems on the train, so the carriages tilt at the right time.
moocowmoneybox 3 years ago
How are these trains powered?? I am guessing the power isn't coming just from the lead unit (like in American trains)... but maybe the carriages in ALL the cars are providing power?? Those horns, especially when they do the dual-tone deal, are awesome!!!
Squawk7600 3 years ago 2
The Pendolino's are powered by the overhead wires, With a pantograph on the front of the 3rd coach. The formation of the motor cars is 1st (cab-motor), 2nd (trailer), 3rd (pantograph-motor), 4th (trailer), 5th (motor), 6th (trailer), 7th (pantograpth-motor), 8th (trailer), 9th (cab-motor)
So basically motor, non-motor, motor, non-motor
v390
v390 3 years ago
Thanks v390! Another question related to power: These things appear to me that they can REALLY accelerate. For example in the video, there was one that was not going really fast, and you could hear the motors 'reving up' and looked like it accelerated EXTREMELY rapidly. Any stats on how fast these trains are capable of accelerating (0 to ?? in ?? sec/minutes)??
Squawk7600 3 years ago 2
I think what your hearing is the wheels gliding over the track as Pendolinos have pretty much no sound at all. I will try to find out how fast they accelerate.
v390 3 years ago
They have 6,900 bhp and a weight of 466 tons.
elfabyanos 3 years ago
0 - 60 MPH in approx 60 secs...
The noise heard on acceleration is a combination of cooling fans on the traction package, and inductance noise from the traction motors
humftamuft 2 years ago
Also note that the two pantographs are not up at the same time, but up in the direction of travel..so a Pendolino leaving London Euston will have the pantograph up at the front (3rd coach)...but a train arriving at London Euston will have other pantograph up instead -- if that all makes sense. Interestingly enough the 3rd carriage is 'The Shop' and I believe the 7th carriage is the 1st Class Quiet Coach/Zone........
UKTrainMan 3 years ago
Why DO they need two pantographs, then? Locos make do with one.
silverdalesapphires 3 years ago
It is useful to have two pantographs, particularly if there happened to be a failure with one of them -- instead of waiting for a Thunderbird (Virgin livery Class 57) rescue loco they can just use the other pantograph (I think). I haven't heard of a Pendolino running with both pantographs up however they may do this at some point if they perhaps need more power from the OLE, particularly if they upgrade the WCML to a faster running speed it might require both pantographs.
UKTrainMan 3 years ago
Hi
Thanks for that.....
silverdalesapphires 3 years ago
They will never operate both pantos at once (the wave effect on the line at high speed of 2 pantos stresses the wire a lot and also reduces the contact efficency of the second pantograph). The leading one is selected automatically from which ever cab end is driving, although I would imagine there is a manual selection overide for if there is a fault with one as you suggested.
soundseeker63 3 years ago
The pantograph is selected by the driver when he sets his cab up. The train is configured so it is impossible to run with both pans up. Running with both pantographs up, would not take anymore power from the OLE. Both transformers are fed by one raised pantograph.
humftamuft 3 years ago
When the driver arrives at the terminating station, he lowers his end Panto and raises the opposit end ready fot the next driver.
OfficialVirginTrains 2 years ago
;-);-);-)Exellent Video Mate,Exellent;-);-);-)
Some nice horns/2tonage included as well....Very Nice and a 5* Production!
Bryan
BNSFBJ 3 years ago
great vid they should use pendolinos on the east coast.
43hudson 3 years ago
i've seen some of them
hstclass43 3 years ago
What's the speed of the first one? 200 kmph? Or even more?
765297 3 years ago
Speed through there is aprox 100mph / 160 km/h
v390 3 years ago
It seems to run faster...
765297 3 years ago
They do 125mph on some of the straight sections, though this wa 85 mph I think. the can do 140mph but are limited due to the old-tech signaling systems on the WCML.
soundseeker63 3 years ago
Acctually this is 100 - 110mph due to speeds changing just before the station.
v390 3 years ago