Humans have other stuff on their mind thanks to this crazy world we made. all that chimp has to worry about is grooming his friends, mating, and peanuts.
The only ones that I can understand NOT liking this, will be: The religious crackpots... and those that think we humans are here to dominate ALL other species.....
@45von im not either group, i just recognize that there's a difference in doing one thing well vs being trained for many skills, a human at age five already has to be able to do more than this, while this is the only skill the chimps were trained for. Also as the chimps aged they got worse.
They didn't say how much practice each group had before performing this task. I have the impression that the chimps have been doing this every day for years and the humans just walked in. Try this experiment again with a very popular simple Flash game that the chimps have never seen before
@iluvdankitydank it shouldn't make any difference provided the placement of the numbers on the screen is random because by the same token you could argue that the humans should perform better having had decades of being exposed to numbers and practice counting to ten. The premise put forward by the newsman that chimps are more intelligent is patently wrong though as sequental memory isn't an indicator of intelligence.
It's very likely that memory is still a valuable commodity for the chimpanzees - and they're still subject to natural selection. We, on the other hand, have had advances that permit the recording of information - writing, computers, etc., and a tight memory is no longer selected for, as we're no longer subject to natural selection at the levels we once were. Perhaps solid memory skills have drifted out of our genetic profile?
@TrevorBlack79 "Perhaps solid memory skills have drifted out of our genetic profile?"
Before speed dial, people memorized all their friend's phone numbers (I still remember the phone number of the neighborhood movie theater I went to about fifty years ago) and addresses. Before pocket-size calculators, people did math in their heads. Before PDAs, people remembered everyone's birthday, anniversary, etc. We've simply gotten used to depending on devices rather than ourselves.
Of course we're still subject to natural selection. People with attractive features (physical or otherwise) are more likely to mate than those without those features. That's natural selection. Just because some humans (but not all) don't have to worry about disease or starvation doesn't mean natural selection doesn't apply...
@Chris314159265358979 I never said natural selection doesn't apply to us at all, nor did I mean to suggest it. My apologies for the confusion and lack of clarity. What I meant was that we aren't subject to natural selection AS MUCH as we once were. I was attempting to suggest that perhaps high-quality memory skills have drifted out of our genome to some degree. Not that I'm qualified to make such a suggestion as anything more than random musing. =p
Well fair enough, I agree with that, it's possible that a powerful short-term memory wasn't of any benefit to us so natural selection removed it from our genome (or maybe it was never present).
guys, i hope your joking when you say its because the researchers weren't getting money or peanuts lol, stfu. the chimps beat us in this, but who has the guns hmm o.O
this video would of being way more accurate if the human was given 50$ for each correct answer because that all we care about these days, money, money, money, and we, just like the monkeys would of concentrated and got it right.
@Cezarijus :the chimp doesn't seem concentrated at all, you see they click while eating peanuts, sometimes not even look while the woman has already concentrated for not wanna lose to a chimp.
Socarulz, that's a fucked up remark about people who work at Mc Donalds. Most I've run across who work there are professional, take their jobs seriously and are genuinely friendly. Although, the same might not be said for someone who makes such a remark.
Yeah I'm thinking that the humans didn't have nearly the motivation the chimps did as the vid said. If you did this with humans from impoverished areas, where food is sparse, or gave money as a reward, then you'd see humans kicking it into gear.
chimp is haxing. but seriously it's not even to do with memory. just managing to see the locations of the numbers in a split second is difficult enough.
Look at us! We're self-aware! The primeval chest beating of the emotionally and intellectually deficient upon viewing this video and their need to proclaim their superiority is truly disheartening. When empathy for our sister species catches up with our arrogance, our actions will be our legacy and immeasurable pain and remorse will be our burden.
I like how instead of having a reputable scientist talking about how important this discovery is, they just have some schmuck reporter narrate the whole time.
the biggest difference is these chimps are specifically trained to do this. the people who are in this experiment weren't nearly trained as intensively. I'm so if you spent as much time training a human to do this, they would do it as well as the chimp or even better.
Hit the nail on the head, our intelligence is more wide spread. We do so many tasks and probably did this for a couple of hours, compared to god knows how many the chimp had!
Humans have fucking computers for that shit! Human brains have more important features like creativity and the power of thinking. AND we have Chuck Norris who can pass the test without even looking at the computer!
@migduh You should look up TEDtv - One of their speakers has an amazing talk about training wild pidgin to find loose change in a city return it for peanuts. :)
Nope the chimps are just better than humans at this is, because even if we made $100s come out of the machine every time you got it right people would still get it wrong.
I agree. It's a matter of acuity with certain mental tasks. They can memorize the 1-9 number sequence, and even have near perfect recall when only seeing the numbers for a millisecond, but processing a mental problem and solving it, would be a whole different matter!
I'll bet their ability to excel in these particular abilities are directly involved somehow and someway, with their survival skills, or certain environmental factors.
I'd be curious to know. Regardless, it was impressive!
Funnily enough, you are right on both counts. We didn't devolve from apes because that was just a joke, and we didn't evolve from apes (at least extant ones) because we actually evolved from a common ape-like primate ancestor that we share with them. That is why we ARE apes.
lol We aren't using chimps in the work place because chimps are smarter than that! They have everything they need in the wild (or in university labs) and I think they're happy with that.
Another theory. The chimps might not actually associate the numbers with quantities and complex operations while the human brain is automatically going to prime centers for quantity and complex mathematical operations at simply the sight of the number. The human brain has more options to consider about what is to be done with the numbers, and so is less focused on a single task and more focused on multiple tasks.
That actually makes alot of sense. Chimpanzees would not have the same assosiation with the numbers because they have not been educated in mathematics, they would have just have been taught to count from 1 to 9 using symbol recognition rather than assigning value.
So while our brains go through all the assosiations we have with numbers the chimps brain is quickly working on the only association they have with the symbols.
That's fine, but I think that there's more to it. I don't think humans would perform as well as the chimps even if there were letters (or any other sequence of symbols) instead of numbers. I know I wouldn't. Maybe authistic savants would, but not regular people. I it is about humans making information go through a more complex circuit, but I think that doesn't go just for numbers. I think that using numbers, if anything, makes the task easier for humans because we know the sequence very well.
To put it simply, chimpanzees have a far better photographic memory than the majority of humans. This suggests that since the time our ancestors diverged, a photographic memory lost prominence in favor of brain functions such as language.
yup... how about, they care more about the planet enough not to destroy it.
in comparison to us, we only care about power than harmoney... so we used up anything we can in order to attain such status... hense pollution and destruction of the planet...
My two cents are that this task takes exercise and the chimps probably had a few thousands rounds head start and my guess would be if you do it with human with say $10 incentives one grows pretty good at this pretty fast.
Still I do not doubt that the average untrained chimp is better than the average untrained human.
It would be interesting to see which parts of the brain light up when doing this task--both in the chimps and in the humans. I suspect there is more to this than just the chimps "caring more". Maybe they are using parts of their brain that in humans evolved to perform a different purpose. The one thing that humans' brains seem to be superior in is abstract language processing.
Even the chimp who learned sign language had nowhere near the vocabulary of an average human, and I doubt it could engage in serious philosophical discourse. I wonder which will happen first: We discover intelligent alien life or some existing life form on earth evolves to the point where it can philosophize with us. I suspect the latter, but only time will tell.
it is quite simple, the human brain is capable of thought, whilst other animals brain's are not. the chimpanzee's brain was concentrated soly on the information on the screen, whilst the human's was subconciously and conciously thinking about other topics. humans can not stop thinking, it is like a permanant on switch. thought is the corner stone of human intelligence.
but what theyre thinking isnt always apparent. the ape that did sign language always thought about her kitty dying. if we didnt have sign language, we wouldnt know that. not argueing, just adding.
Chimps can think. They can see a termite nest full of termites they want to eat, then look around for a stick that fits inside, pull off all the leaves and twigs, sharpen it, (all the while remembering what it was for) and then stab them some termites. They can also get a peanut out of the bottom of an upright cylinder by carrying water in their mouths and spitting it into the tube, and repeating until the peanut is within reach at the top of the tube.
haha the first sign capable chip is from the 80's. Her name was Washoe. Obsessed with taking care of people and other chimps, and of course, footwear.
Memorization I can use for physics formula, just like memorizing how to spell words, math formulas, or the names of characters in certain books, but none of my teachers ever made me memorize a certain way how to do a problem in physics then give me another problem where everything was shuffled around.
I've seen claims of 'it's fake' to long winded attempts to discredit the physical world come from the news of this experiment.
Humans are the only race that can reach such a deep and disturbing level of narcissism, that their very ability to make it through the day depends on a superior/inferior polarity.
humans use more of their brain power on things like advanced concepts, long term plans, creating machines, etc. a chimp doesnt need to think on a larger scale, so simple memory tasks are easy for them. we have also grown quite dependent on computers and machines to do this type of thing for us. i still find this quite surprising. humans are obviously a very arrogant species. we have no problem torturing, killing, testing on creatures we consider inferior to ourselves. are they truly inferior?
Our duty is to our species. Inferiority has nothing to do with it. We are human and we need more medical testing than we have human volunteers. And they're not about to sacrifice their lives for it. Or are you suggesting unwilling test subjects? You know, like in Nazi Germany?
"I bet chimps value chimp life over human life..."
That depends on which chimp. If its not a member of their colony, then no. They'll kill it and eat it.
People volunteer for human testing all the time. And yes, people die from human testing, too.
"Inferiority has nothing to do with it"
Yes it does. We value human life above all other life, thus, we feel other forms of life are inferior to our own. That's the definition of inferior, low or lower in order, degree, or VALUE.
Sorry if you don't like the word "inferior" but it is being used correctly.
"Inferior: of comparatively low grade; poor in quality; substandard."
Saying that a chimp is inferior to a human is like saying an apple is inferior to an orange. A chimp would make a lousy human but a human would also make a lousy chimp. If evolution has taught us anything its that their's no such thing as "higher" or "lower" species, only the closeness to which they are related to one another. So no, your dichotomy between "value" and "inferior" is false...
Human testing is the last possible stage of medical trials. Yes people die, but the reason new volunteers keep coming in is because the odds against that happening is very very high (thanks to animal testing.) You can't very well ask someone to volunteer for an experimental surgery unless it has at least been successfully attempted ONCE before on SOMETHING.
Again, if you want to save the animals, you could always volunteer.
Chimps will beat the heck out of you in memory game.
My daughters were always awesome at it when they were 3 and 4 years old. I could not even get close to their level even though I really tried.
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its because humans are more prone to second guess themselves
and that's exactly what makes us smarter, thinking beyond tangible stimuli allows us to think outside the box
an50331 3 months ago
Humans have other stuff on their mind thanks to this crazy world we made. all that chimp has to worry about is grooming his friends, mating, and peanuts.
IsaraiLee 4 months ago
Further proof of intelligent design!
imdamasta 4 months ago
@imdamasta
Awesome comment man
KoRL12 4 months ago
I wonder what chimp would do for a klondike bar?
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The only ones that I can understand NOT liking this, will be: The religious crackpots... and those that think we humans are here to dominate ALL other species.....
Oops excuse me... that's the same group.
45von 5 months ago
@45von im not either group, i just recognize that there's a difference in doing one thing well vs being trained for many skills, a human at age five already has to be able to do more than this, while this is the only skill the chimps were trained for. Also as the chimps aged they got worse.
tololololo9001 4 months ago
They didn't say how much practice each group had before performing this task. I have the impression that the chimps have been doing this every day for years and the humans just walked in. Try this experiment again with a very popular simple Flash game that the chimps have never seen before
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@iluvdankitydank it shouldn't make any difference provided the placement of the numbers on the screen is random because by the same token you could argue that the humans should perform better having had decades of being exposed to numbers and practice counting to ten. The premise put forward by the newsman that chimps are more intelligent is patently wrong though as sequental memory isn't an indicator of intelligence.
uknowispeaksense 5 months ago
It's very likely that memory is still a valuable commodity for the chimpanzees - and they're still subject to natural selection. We, on the other hand, have had advances that permit the recording of information - writing, computers, etc., and a tight memory is no longer selected for, as we're no longer subject to natural selection at the levels we once were. Perhaps solid memory skills have drifted out of our genetic profile?
TrevorBlack79 5 months ago
@TrevorBlack79 "Perhaps solid memory skills have drifted out of our genetic profile?"
Before speed dial, people memorized all their friend's phone numbers (I still remember the phone number of the neighborhood movie theater I went to about fifty years ago) and addresses. Before pocket-size calculators, people did math in their heads. Before PDAs, people remembered everyone's birthday, anniversary, etc. We've simply gotten used to depending on devices rather than ourselves.
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@TrevorBlack79
Of course we're still subject to natural selection. People with attractive features (physical or otherwise) are more likely to mate than those without those features. That's natural selection. Just because some humans (but not all) don't have to worry about disease or starvation doesn't mean natural selection doesn't apply...
Chris314159265358979 3 months ago
@Chris314159265358979 I never said natural selection doesn't apply to us at all, nor did I mean to suggest it. My apologies for the confusion and lack of clarity. What I meant was that we aren't subject to natural selection AS MUCH as we once were. I was attempting to suggest that perhaps high-quality memory skills have drifted out of our genome to some degree. Not that I'm qualified to make such a suggestion as anything more than random musing. =p
TrevorBlack79 3 months ago
@TrevorBlack79
Well fair enough, I agree with that, it's possible that a powerful short-term memory wasn't of any benefit to us so natural selection removed it from our genome (or maybe it was never present).
Chris314159265358979 3 months ago
Can a chimpanzee count? You know, our DNA is about 99% identical to that of a chimpanzee. It's really facinating to me.
NinjaOutfitInTheWash 6 months ago
Humans have the capability to remember the numerals of pie. Humans invented the computer that the chimp was using.
ultragarrison 6 months ago
guys, i hope your joking when you say its because the researchers weren't getting money or peanuts lol, stfu. the chimps beat us in this, but who has the guns hmm o.O
StrokeAndChoke 6 months ago
this video would of being way more accurate if the human was given 50$ for each correct answer because that all we care about these days, money, money, money, and we, just like the monkeys would of concentrated and got it right.
Cezarijus 7 months ago
@Cezarijus :the chimp doesn't seem concentrated at all, you see they click while eating peanuts, sometimes not even look while the woman has already concentrated for not wanna lose to a chimp.
evolit2011 5 months ago
Would humans perform better if they were rewarded with a dollar instead of a peanut?
Talon4ce 7 months ago
Socarulz, that's a fucked up remark about people who work at Mc Donalds. Most I've run across who work there are professional, take their jobs seriously and are genuinely friendly. Although, the same might not be said for someone who makes such a remark.
rarelyserious 7 months ago
@rarelyserious LOL thats all i got to say
buhghetto 7 months ago
@rarelyserious :true!
evolit2011 5 months ago
typical of msm 'news' to completely omit the science part of this story. google for it to find out the whole story.
iamafractal 7 months ago
chimps evolved from humans...damnit
dangerusdave44 7 months ago
Yeah I'm thinking that the humans didn't have nearly the motivation the chimps did as the vid said. If you did this with humans from impoverished areas, where food is sparse, or gave money as a reward, then you'd see humans kicking it into gear.
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clearly god works in mysterious ways.
RedUnbannable 7 months ago
lol
TheSwedishSvensken 8 months ago
this chimp deserves a job =D
HareyMon 8 months ago
@thebronzebat AHAHahhahah
pdrwood 8 months ago
I love how non-chalant the chimp is. "yeah whatever with your number game you bald MOFO. GIMME THE PEANUTS"
Panomition 8 months ago
OMG This chimp is soooo intelligent!!
MultiNatla 9 months ago
black power!
the0th 9 months ago
luckily we don teach them to make fire
javiedkawification 9 months ago
@javiedkawification We do, the bonobos have been taught on how to make fire and even play Pacmam. There's a TED video about it.
Miryr 9 months ago
This is why behaviorism should be the dominant discipline in psychology.
KingOfMadCows 10 months ago
lol.
Jerbod2 11 months ago
Well, that is a womans hand...
BigLaug 11 months ago 16
Humans should have been offered sex or money.
notforvideos 11 months ago 3
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Xtnb27741 11 months ago
wtf!?!?! the chimp isnt even looking at the screen half the time... AND he is eating.
Cryogennw 11 months ago 10
@Cryogennw
chimp is haxing. but seriously it's not even to do with memory. just managing to see the locations of the numbers in a split second is difficult enough.
the0th 9 months ago
Look at us! We're self-aware! The primeval chest beating of the emotionally and intellectually deficient upon viewing this video and their need to proclaim their superiority is truly disheartening. When empathy for our sister species catches up with our arrogance, our actions will be our legacy and immeasurable pain and remorse will be our burden.
KenHennell 1 year ago
I like how instead of having a reputable scientist talking about how important this discovery is, they just have some schmuck reporter narrate the whole time.
Aerlenbach 1 year ago
anyone that doesn't believe we're related to monkeys is so fucking stupid.
Sockr44e 1 year ago 3
the biggest difference is these chimps are specifically trained to do this. the people who are in this experiment weren't nearly trained as intensively. I'm so if you spent as much time training a human to do this, they would do it as well as the chimp or even better.
Tim0508 1 year ago
@Tim0508
Hit the nail on the head, our intelligence is more wide spread. We do so many tasks and probably did this for a couple of hours, compared to god knows how many the chimp had!
6Scientist 1 year ago
i don't think i could do as good as a chimp in that test if my life depended on it.
smiley102590 1 year ago 3
Give a guy some money and I bet he would out preform the chimp.
no1nprtiqlr 1 year ago
That chimp freaking loves those peanuts. :3
Supperman42 1 year ago
Great narration :)
jackbliss 1 year ago
Humans have fucking computers for that shit! Human brains have more important features like creativity and the power of thinking. AND we have Chuck Norris who can pass the test without even looking at the computer!
maniacmobster 1 year ago
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ThomasWinkworth 1 year ago
How does this not have like 8 million views? This is one of the very few videos I've watched that made my jaw actually drop.
migduh 1 year ago 2
@migduh cuz most of the people in you tube are friggin christians!
remanuelmr 1 year ago 2
@migduh You should look up TEDtv - One of their speakers has an amazing talk about training wild pidgin to find loose change in a city return it for peanuts. :)
JuryDutySummons 1 year ago
There's three reasons why the chimps won. They got peanuts. Their opponents were humans. The humans were Japanese.
LetsPlayDMods 1 year ago
that was fucking immense
zzzzJAGJEETzzzz 1 year ago
Put money as a reward for the humans, we might see some different results:)
184ktmdm 1 year ago
ask a chimp to teach a chimp about the order. studies show that our primate relatives are not good at teaching.
bkisia 1 year ago
It's because the humans they were testing were Japanese
TheTexasPig 1 year ago
if chimps are so smart how come they're not doing tests on us?
ACSLATER92 1 year ago
@ACSLATER92
Maybe they have a higher moral code!
Cootabux 1 year ago
Nope the chimps are just better than humans at this is, because even if we made $100s come out of the machine every time you got it right people would still get it wrong.
Setzer 1 year ago
@Setzer
I agree. It's a matter of acuity with certain mental tasks. They can memorize the 1-9 number sequence, and even have near perfect recall when only seeing the numbers for a millisecond, but processing a mental problem and solving it, would be a whole different matter!
I'll bet their ability to excel in these particular abilities are directly involved somehow and someway, with their survival skills, or certain environmental factors.
I'd be curious to know. Regardless, it was impressive!
Cootabux 1 year ago
Practice makes perfect. Especially, when hungry.
jorgipogi 1 year ago
kill the chimps. or they ll conquer the world.
killmypain 1 year ago
@killmypain lol
frigital 1 year ago
id rather work with chimps than most of my co-workers
r3v00h 1 year ago
so what if we give them guns...?
NWA90s 1 year ago
@NWA90s they exterminate the humans and return back to the nature.
MrFox1231 1 year ago
chimps are cute and they are better then humans ^^
Khmer96pride 1 year ago
FUCK CHIMPS WE GO INTO SPACE AND WIPE OUR ASSES
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago 2
it would be funny if the human actually is going after the nuts too! XD
BUT!.. if the prize was great deal of cash! then I am guessing that the adult homosapien would dominate...
krazycore 1 year ago
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krazycore 1 year ago
That pretty crazy, put a million dollars on the line instead lol
dfisch53 1 year ago
We'd need something a little better than peanuts to care bout our score one that test. One suggestion: one lap dance for every three correct answers.
Or maybe we should just hire chimps to be our numerologists. Fox News would hire them for that quality.
MultiPaulinator 1 year ago
it's a bad designed experiment because humans were not offered peanuts
egekeskin 2 years ago 93
If it was a steak with accesories to it, I would certanly concentrate as hell if I was hungry enough!
stokmarknes 2 years ago
Does this mean we've actually devolved from apes! The creationists would blow a gasket to hear that!
TheLivingDinosaur 2 years ago
@TheLivingDinosaur
We didn't devolve from apes because we didn't evolve from apes.
greywolfe1983 1 year ago
Funnily enough, you are right on both counts. We didn't devolve from apes because that was just a joke, and we didn't evolve from apes (at least extant ones) because we actually evolved from a common ape-like primate ancestor that we share with them. That is why we ARE apes.
TheLivingDinosaur 1 year ago
Yes, you're probably right...it looks to me as though we've devolved from apes.
GenevaSuspension 1 year ago
i feel really stupid now lol
Daruqe 2 years ago 7
That is insane. They do it so quickly and bearly need to even see the numbers.
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
why aren't we using chimps in work places? they are more intelligent then half the people who seem to get jobs at mcdonalds.
socarulz 2 years ago 80
lol
alchemicdream000 2 years ago
And they litteraly work for penuts.
Robtehman 2 years ago
Nike and Adidas are probably researching ways to teach chimps to glue shoes together for peanuts.
GenevaSuspension 1 year ago 2
@socarulz you are exactly the type of costumer people working at McDonalds love to serve.
andresblazeit420 1 year ago
@socarulz
lol We aren't using chimps in the work place because chimps are smarter than that! They have everything they need in the wild (or in university labs) and I think they're happy with that.
VitaminTMan 1 year ago
@socarulz Cuz that will be wrong. Using animals for work
ivailoto5 1 year ago
@ivailoto5 You mean like riding horses, or dog-sledges?
komninosm 1 year ago
@ivailoto5 why? ants, bee's work to why not get the chimps set to work?
ZelfJeWeet 1 year ago
@socarulz because if u asked a chimp to fix your burger that they got wrong they might rip u face off
cabot2jville2010 1 year ago
@socarulz what would you pay them with.. peanuts?? lol
HuStLeR91sixXx 1 year ago
@socarulz lol true, and they'll prolly leave less hair in my food
gladegaurd 1 year ago
@socarulz Hygeiene problems... :)
ikilleduku 1 year ago
@socarulz
And I would guess that you are referring to yourself considering you don't know the difference between "then" and "than".
redeyedhobbit 1 year ago
@socarulz theyre dangerous, they might lose it all of a sudden. And they would probably eat all the food lol.
airlinerpilot13 1 year ago
@socarulz Ya, lets have monkeys serving us food
RJCunningham 8 months ago
@RJCunningham hhahahahah exactly
AllThisPurple 7 months ago
Another theory. The chimps might not actually associate the numbers with quantities and complex operations while the human brain is automatically going to prime centers for quantity and complex mathematical operations at simply the sight of the number. The human brain has more options to consider about what is to be done with the numbers, and so is less focused on a single task and more focused on multiple tasks.
SepherStar 2 years ago 3
That actually makes alot of sense. Chimpanzees would not have the same assosiation with the numbers because they have not been educated in mathematics, they would have just have been taught to count from 1 to 9 using symbol recognition rather than assigning value.
So while our brains go through all the assosiations we have with numbers the chimps brain is quickly working on the only association they have with the symbols.
biomanwin 2 years ago
That's fine, but I think that there's more to it. I don't think humans would perform as well as the chimps even if there were letters (or any other sequence of symbols) instead of numbers. I know I wouldn't. Maybe authistic savants would, but not regular people. I it is about humans making information go through a more complex circuit, but I think that doesn't go just for numbers. I think that using numbers, if anything, makes the task easier for humans because we know the sequence very well.
kaminarigaston 2 years ago
Well, chimps can associate numbers with real life objects. just go to the following clip : watch?v=6ARNypaFXjc
laurens890 2 years ago
That's what I was thinking too. Chimps can't do operations, but it seems that they can associate quantities.
watch?v=VCy7M6ueSpE
adkinsjr 2 years ago
To put it simply, chimpanzees have a far better photographic memory than the majority of humans. This suggests that since the time our ancestors diverged, a photographic memory lost prominence in favor of brain functions such as language.
backtothefront88 2 years ago 4
holly shit
brattness 2 years ago
chimps have better visual memory
kramer3d 2 years ago
yup... how about, they care more about the planet enough not to destroy it.
in comparison to us, we only care about power than harmoney... so we used up anything we can in order to attain such status... hense pollution and destruction of the planet...
hop1pop 2 years ago
I believe I've read about this before....and it helps greatly that the chimps are young, so they have more flexible minds...
elainexe 2 years ago
hahaha. This is really too funny.
My two cents are that this task takes exercise and the chimps probably had a few thousands rounds head start and my guess would be if you do it with human with say $10 incentives one grows pretty good at this pretty fast.
Still I do not doubt that the average untrained chimp is better than the average untrained human.
RationalEmotive 3 years ago
Yes... for Another Tasty Treat.
PRICELESS!
whitfieldyt 3 years ago
It would be interesting to see which parts of the brain light up when doing this task--both in the chimps and in the humans. I suspect there is more to this than just the chimps "caring more". Maybe they are using parts of their brain that in humans evolved to perform a different purpose. The one thing that humans' brains seem to be superior in is abstract language processing.
TheMathGuy 3 years ago
Even the chimp who learned sign language had nowhere near the vocabulary of an average human, and I doubt it could engage in serious philosophical discourse. I wonder which will happen first: We discover intelligent alien life or some existing life form on earth evolves to the point where it can philosophize with us. I suspect the latter, but only time will tell.
TheMathGuy 3 years ago 2
Less cluttered perhaps?
swyft187 3 years ago
Ya did they have 12 years of school? Have religion and video games? Ya we are so smart that we made ourselves dumber than monkeys in some instances.
Mychaels 3 years ago
"Chimpanzees care more than humans about peanuts." -- LOL!
TheMathGuy 3 years ago
Humans would have done better if they got a peanut too..it's all about initative.
But I'm not discouting chimps and their superior short term memory either.
gopherdude 3 years ago
Wow! This is fantastic =) I've seen some of the experiments done with dolphines as well, and they're fantastically smart too!
LexxKitty 3 years ago 2
Homosapien Fail
Chimpanzee Win
GenerationXeroFilms 3 years ago 5
That's amazing! Wow!
HystericalGrape 3 years ago
wow
mekaview 3 years ago
They have really good short-term memory.
sublime95 3 years ago
amazing
P8121 3 years ago
it is quite simple, the human brain is capable of thought, whilst other animals brain's are not. the chimpanzee's brain was concentrated soly on the information on the screen, whilst the human's was subconciously and conciously thinking about other topics. humans can not stop thinking, it is like a permanant on switch. thought is the corner stone of human intelligence.
omegakurt20 3 years ago
relatively true, youre right.
but what theyre thinking isnt always apparent. the ape that did sign language always thought about her kitty dying. if we didnt have sign language, we wouldnt know that. not argueing, just adding.
grendelee 3 years ago
You're a moron. I'm glad you put in your two cents Mr. PH.D
Billyjoebob325 3 years ago
You're a moron. I'm glad you put in your two cents Mr. PH.D
Billyjoebob325 3 years ago
do you have a better idea?
omegakurt20 3 years ago
The only reason anythings capable of doing anything is the ability to think. An animal without thought is no animal at all, it is inorganic.
Billyjoebob123 2 years ago
so a tree is inorganic. what about organic gardening?
thedelta88 2 years ago
Chimps can think. They can see a termite nest full of termites they want to eat, then look around for a stick that fits inside, pull off all the leaves and twigs, sharpen it, (all the while remembering what it was for) and then stab them some termites. They can also get a peanut out of the bottom of an upright cylinder by carrying water in their mouths and spitting it into the tube, and repeating until the peanut is within reach at the top of the tube.
Zekkron 3 years ago
only smart creatures know it's much smarter to not talk. because talking makes your brain retarded.
orthon360 3 years ago
so what's wrong with the evolution, man?
zisurs 3 years ago
Next, they should have some well-fed and motivated teenagers play video games against some overweight adults who are high on caffeine and sugar.
sy1234 3 years ago
lol...what game should they play? FPS?
DybboB89 3 years ago
gta on liberty island with molotov cocktails
grendelee 3 years ago
More grist for the 'are we so different after all' mill. Love it. :)
keithdeath1 3 years ago
I remember playing a flash game like this and I sucked! That chimp would kick my ass! I didn't even know they could read numbers! Really cool.
treytrey3 3 years ago
I bet that the humans who were tested were creatinists.lol
Awsomeguy134 3 years ago 29
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lordabomity 1 year ago
@Awsomeguy134 Funny but it was probably the researchers themselves. Researchers don't have the amount of money creationists need.
Ruzihm 1 year ago
@Awsomeguy134 LOL, your comment made me chuckle, congratulations
anthonylancer 1 year ago
@Awsomeguy134
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Cootabux 1 year ago
in the future we will be able to communicate with chimps as well as they communicating with us :)
Pain08MX 3 years ago
haha the first sign capable chip is from the 80's. Her name was Washoe. Obsessed with taking care of people and other chimps, and of course, footwear.
0lord0kinbote0 3 years ago
impressive...
gocanuckzgo 3 years ago
they just flashed them for a second and they could still get it right??? flat out amazing.. i dont even think most humans could do that
thecrimsonturd 3 years ago 4
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You know, all learning is really just memorization, I don't understand why in "us" it's "knowing" and in "them" it's just "memorizing".
Zimy0 3 years ago
Pure rote memorization never got me anywhere in physics.
notawsome 3 years ago
how do you keep track of your work then?
Oh wait, a physicist would never claim memory is anything but one of the most crucial abilities he relies on.
0lord0kinbote0 3 years ago
Memorization I can use for physics formula, just like memorizing how to spell words, math formulas, or the names of characters in certain books, but none of my teachers ever made me memorize a certain way how to do a problem in physics then give me another problem where everything was shuffled around.
notawsome 3 years ago
"all learning is really just memorization"
WRONG!
jsyomama 3 years ago 5
not all, but school tests are based on memorization
ragnar336 3 years ago
Hilarious!
Ethrock 3 years ago
PWN us will you, you DAMN DIRTY APES!!!
thecynicsage 3 years ago
I've seen claims of 'it's fake' to long winded attempts to discredit the physical world come from the news of this experiment.
Humans are the only race that can reach such a deep and disturbing level of narcissism, that their very ability to make it through the day depends on a superior/inferior polarity.
0lord0kinbote0 3 years ago
not surprising
wwtmd 3 years ago
We have opposable toes, your days are numbered, human.
JohnTraviss 3 years ago
It's time for a mass chimp genocide.
elan2000 3 years ago
I knew it, the humans are on to us!!
JohnTraviss 3 years ago
humans use more of their brain power on things like advanced concepts, long term plans, creating machines, etc. a chimp doesnt need to think on a larger scale, so simple memory tasks are easy for them. we have also grown quite dependent on computers and machines to do this type of thing for us. i still find this quite surprising. humans are obviously a very arrogant species. we have no problem torturing, killing, testing on creatures we consider inferior to ourselves. are they truly inferior?
v14d 3 years ago 6
We don't test on them because they're inferior. We test on them because they're similar.
Crit0 3 years ago
"We don't test on them because they're inferior. We test on them because they're similar"
Why not just test on humans, then? We test on animals because humans value human life over animal life, that's just the way it is.
I bet chimps value chimp life over human life...
UltraSWG 3 years ago
"Why not just test on humans, then?"
Are you volunteering?
Our duty is to our species. Inferiority has nothing to do with it. We are human and we need more medical testing than we have human volunteers. And they're not about to sacrifice their lives for it. Or are you suggesting unwilling test subjects? You know, like in Nazi Germany?
"I bet chimps value chimp life over human life..."
That depends on which chimp. If its not a member of their colony, then no. They'll kill it and eat it.
Crit0 3 years ago
"Are you volunteering?"
People volunteer for human testing all the time. And yes, people die from human testing, too.
"Inferiority has nothing to do with it"
Yes it does. We value human life above all other life, thus, we feel other forms of life are inferior to our own. That's the definition of inferior, low or lower in order, degree, or VALUE.
Sorry if you don't like the word "inferior" but it is being used correctly.
UltraSWG 3 years ago
From a Dictionary:
"Inferior: of comparatively low grade; poor in quality; substandard."
Saying that a chimp is inferior to a human is like saying an apple is inferior to an orange. A chimp would make a lousy human but a human would also make a lousy chimp. If evolution has taught us anything its that their's no such thing as "higher" or "lower" species, only the closeness to which they are related to one another. So no, your dichotomy between "value" and "inferior" is false...
Crit0 3 years ago 3
Human testing is the last possible stage of medical trials. Yes people die, but the reason new volunteers keep coming in is because the odds against that happening is very very high (thanks to animal testing.) You can't very well ask someone to volunteer for an experimental surgery unless it has at least been successfully attempted ONCE before on SOMETHING.
Again, if you want to save the animals, you could always volunteer.