Homosexuals do not want you to know that many of them were sexually abused when young, because many people who were so abused go on to molest others. And homosexuals do not want you to know that they are more likely to molest children than heterosexuals are. Ray Blanchard, et al., "Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000), p. 464
• 1. Research designed to prove that gays and lesbians are "born that way" has come up empty — there is no scientific evidence that being gay or lesbian is genetically determined” Matthew Brelis, "The Fading 'Gay Gene,'" The Boston Globe, March 20, 2002, p. C1.
80% of homosexual men were repeatedly sexually abused by an adult while they were still a child, most before they were 10 years old and by older men or by a close male family member, male friend, or authority figure. [v] Child Abuse and Neglect 16, no.6, 1992, pp.855-64
Hey garysher, take your bible thumping ass to CBN and stay there. My brother is homosexual. He was fruity since the day he was born. No one touched him or made him homosexual. He grew up better than me. He had my father and his mother, as I just had my mother. I'm not homosexual. I'm a dad with three kids. Did I grow up in a weird stigmatized family?
The point is that many people are confused about their sexuality especially young people.
By encouraging them to pursue a homosexual lifestyle and pretending it is equivalent to a normal heterosexual yearning, you are putting these sad young people in a position to feel full of guilt and stigma about their deviant behaviour.
Suicide victims usually have all kinds of personlity issues.
You can delude yourself about homosexuality all you want but those suicide victims will never come back.
@garysher3 what exactly constitutes "indunging" in homosexuality? Is it ok for people to encourage indulging in heterosexuality? or are you just against teenage sex in general?
@garysher3 Considering every major medical and scientific institution says that being homosexual is natural and a completely healthy way to live your life, how is it comparable to whiskey? Gays are just as capable as forming lifelong bonds as straight people (I've met gay couples who had been together for 30+ years) and if they use proper protection and limit sexual partners, homosexuals are at no higher risk of STIs.
@houseofswans1 The fact homosexuality occurs in Nature doesn't make it natural because it does not conform with the purpose of human sexuality, which is to procreate.
Homosexuality is deviant human behaviour and parents should discourage their children from experimenting with it. Perhaps we can reduce the number of teen suicides if we give them good advice. and not pretend its ok to be gay
@garysher3 I wonder what's more confusing. Coming to terms with the fact that you're different, or being told by the people you love and trust that who you are isn't acceptable and you need to be 'fixed'.
I'm sure love, support and acceptance has caused more suicides than any attempts to "fix"...oh wait. That's not true at all.
Believe what you want about gay people....and keep telling yourself that confused kids that are committing suicide would have been better off being further ridiculed.
What causes more suicides? Loving acceptance, or rejection and ridicule? I acknowledge that even if a family accepts a person for who they are, they may still be subject to ridicule from others, and *that* is the problem. This notion that gay people are deviants who are to be looked down upon and the environment this attitude breeds is what causes the suicides. Not the homosexual behavior itself.
You can believe it's wrong all you want. Consensual homosexuality behavior harms no one.
@garysher3 Considering homosexuals are perfectly capable of forming loving relationships and it is psychologically harmful to try to change your orientation, why ask them to change?
Any certified psychologist would disagree with you about teen suicide. You don't see anyone committing suicide because they think they are gay and people are telling them it's okay... people commit suicide because they think they may be gay and are told by parents and/or society that it is wrong.
@garysher3 First of all, you brought up the suicides first. And you're the one speaking for other people. Okay let's do this - speaking *personally* as a gay adult: I thought about suicide because I knew I was gay but I didn't have any positive gay role models to talk to and couldn't turn to my parents, so I felt utterly alone. Since coming to terms with myself and coming out, I'm happy and never think of suicide. I would have never considered suicide if I'd been told being gay is okay.
@garysher3 I've met many positive gay role models in the past year. They're the people who have been with their partners for 30+ years, and some have even raised beautiful children too. Meeting them, plus taking courses in college and reading scientific literature, showed me that same-sex relationships are no different than straight ones, and being gay doesn't mean you have to be a sex-crazed person afraid of commitment - the stereotype people like you love to push.
@garysher3 You have a habit of just picking out one sentence from my comment instead of replying to the whole thing, but whatever *shrug*
The thing is, there is insurmountable evidence that children raised by same sex couples are perfectly healthy and have no higher chance of being nonheterosexual than kids raised by opposite sex couples. You can hold to old ideals and stereotypes and debate it all you want, but when you look at the hard data there is no debate...
@houseofswans1 There is also insurmountable evidence that homosexuals who adopt children deliberately deny those children either a mother or a father.
You may think being raised by a mum and dad is some kind of old fashioned stereotype but most people disagree with your selfish self-centred unbalanced attitudes.
@garysher3 I'm going to go with the hard evidence and not the popular opinion. The hard evidence is a child being raised by two same-sex parents fair just as well as those raised by opposite-sex partners. Says who? The Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Bar Association, American Medical Association, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, National Adoption Center and many others.
@houseofswans1 When they say children fare just as well do they consider the lack of either a mother or a father?
If you read their 'studies' you'll find they use tiny samples, as few as 17 couples, who fill out a questionnaire critiquing their own parenting skills.
Not exactly hard evidence to reverse millennia if human wisdom
@garysher3 If you are going to base your beliefs off how things have always been done for the past millennia then go get a slave and treat your wife as property.
How does 78 lesbian-raised children studied for 24 years sound? Where they found ZERO rate of child abuse and only 2.8 of the children identified as homosexual. If being gay was a choice I'd expect that to be much higher considering they were raised by gay parents...
@garysher3 I'm through arguing with you. Just a final point: I contemplated suicide as a teenager because I went on the internet and saw hateful comments like yours. And you think you're helping people, you really do. It's sad. Traditional views have been wrong before, and traditional views on homosexuality are. None of it stands up to scientific scrutiny. Finally we are seeing social change, and society will be the better for it as they accept another group as their equals.
@garysher3 Hey garysher, take your bible thumping ass to CBN and stay there. My brother is homosexual. He was fruity since the day he was born. No one touched him or made him homosexual. He grew up better than me. He had my father and his mother, as I just had my mother. I'm not homosexual. I'm a dad with three kids. Did I grow up in a weird stigmatized family?
Islam condemns homosexuality, but it sounds so humorous because 90 % of muslims practice homosexuality and 90 % of their women are lesbians. I am from the Middle East, I know muslims very well, men love to have sex with children and with men. Women are the same, they love young girls for lust.
that guy is a bigoted right wing jackass. homosexuality is not some kind of mental disease because of abuse, it is a persons orientation. i know so because im bisexual and i was never abused as a kid, i developed it during my teenage years.
The greatest of all ironies, he forgot to mention PRIESTS! This man is a nut, someone put his ass in a straight jacket. I don't agree with homosexuality, but I respect ppl as human beings and if they are actracted to the fucking same sex, then that it's their life. Ppl don't live on this fucking planet to plz some imaginary shit that lives int he sky.
I'm just realizing now that I dislike fucks like this guy more than I dislike homosexuality. Now I find that pretty funny.
ATHEIST bitches are thee most VIOLENT ABUSIVE OFFENSIVE pieces of shit that Graced this Planet and YOU australian Bitches are almost the worst!!! Yeah You are thee most Stupid shit for all to see!! RETARD
Pat shut the fuck up you old fuck! You speak non sense. I am not a psychiatrist, however, I believe you have schizofrenia. Do us a huge favor and go to a nursery home for the elder and stay there forever. This goes to all you hypocrite evangelical thieves!
cant wait fotr this douchebag to drop dead already... and why does he never discuss people going to hell for eating pork?or shellfish?a no no in the bible . i love how these idiots pick and choose what is right and what is not. either follow all of it or none of it...
Ellen and Rosie said that they could have been happy with a man. Rosie is now talking about being abused as a child. Many homosexuals have been created by abuse, persuasion and just pure corruption. The Bible says that it is an abomination and it also says there is a way out. What Pat said is good advice, love your child but don't accept that he's sinning.
Kill all child molestors. There is an answer. However, that won't happen b/c u would eliminate most of the Catholic Church. We only know the abuses that come to light, imagine how many others that haven't. U know how many American politicians are homo's? Shit, that's a lot of white males that have been molested.
Finally, the only sin here is the self-righteous fucks who use the BS Bible as a tool for reason, and to tell ppl how to live.
If you love him you'll tell him he's going to hell??? Christians really are whacko. Christianity is about using a religion to justify your hatred of minorities such as homosexuals. How can people be taken in by this guy whose made millions out of exploiting people's ignorance and supersition?
Let's get to the obvious: Homosexuality has nothing to do with morality. It is not good or bad. It just is. You don't turn into a faggot because your mom dominated you or you liked your mom better than your dad or your spent time playing with fucking barbies or GI JOES. Both activities are creepy though. A priest molests you, then you become gay? No. You might like boys and girls. So what? The sexiest girls I know also like to have sex w/women. Good on 'em. No harm, no foul. NO FUCKING SIN.
exactly how did he come to this conclusion? is this some research he's done, or is it somehow, some way, an understanding he has... as if he's had to wrestle with the difficulty? you don't come up with this theory out of nowhere.
If this country were a Christian theocracy ruled by hard line Evangelicals, you can bet your ass there would be concentration camps for non believers. In time all non believers would be rounded up and tossed into the ovens. I've heard their rhetoric. As far as they are concerned, you either live by biblical dogma or you shouldn't exist. You should be eliminated. There are summer camps where kids, yes kids, are sent and taught to be "Chrisitain warriors." They're taught to hate.
yeah one of their favorite arguments against Islam is that Christian country s are more "civilized". But if they could get away with suicide bombings and stoning Homosexuals to death you bet they would. Its our "Evil" secular laws that stop these holy psychos
" Its our "Evil" secular laws that stop these holy psychos"
Yes, and that is why secularism has ultimately saved many more lives than religion has. Because it is secularist ideals that keep people from wanting cut your head off, or prevent religious wars from happening.
I know I have seen it. Some of my family members go to a church that is called "The army of God ministries" Which clearly shows they are preparing for some type of battle. It's a little scary what you said but nonetheless true.
Its a matter of time before these tele-evangalists go away. I went to Jerry Falwell's University..so I think I am entitled to comment...the super-right wing religious guys have spread so much hate and discrimination in this country. I think the majority is beginning to see that...
How many more right-wing bigots like Pat Robertson need to get caught writing emails to under-aged boys, or soliciting homosexual sex in airport bathrooms, or visiting whores, or fucking their staff member's wives, or falling in love with "soul mates" in Argentina, before we realize that THESE HYPOCRITES ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY -- Period.
Yes, 10% of the population has been molested or abused sexually, and this has, in turn, made them homosexual.
Just because you can't understand how men could possibly be attracted to men, doesn't mean you can make up some complete bullshit like, "They were molested".
I can't understand how people can worship a god, but I don't say, "Well, religious people must have had a bad experience with atheism." That would be idiotic.
There was a law and order episode that had men who would fuck each other, but get mad if anyone called them gay. Their reason was that they weren't gay, because they didnt love the men they would fuck. It sounds silly, but is homosexuality only related to sex (eros) or love too?
so how do you explain homosexual penguins (a couple are currently raising an egg in a German zoo, I believe) and the hundreds of other observed homo behavior amongst animals? were they too molested as pups? why does gayness bother anybody? If you feel it's an insult to God, don't you think God is able to deal with it, that He needs no help from you? I just don't get it...
I realize it's a big thought, but try to hang in there...
the point was that Robertson and many religious types believe homosexuals are "turned into being gay" by some incident (molestation etc).
Since animals don't really have the capacity to carry around such emotional baggage, and since some number of them exhibit homosexual behavior, it's clear that some are just wired that way. Why not the same for humans? I eagerly await your explanation, since I'm such an idiot...
hey CHARES: is necrophilia a big problem in your neighbor? cuz you seem kinda hung up on it...
maybe you can answer this one: where does one get the nerve to call someone else an idiot, while being complete unable to answer that "idiot's" question?
Just in case you've forgotten, the question is:
do you think animals exhibit homosexual behaviors because they were molested as youngsters? what is it exactly that drives such anti-procreational acts? and can we stick to the topic at hand?
Hey, ever consider consent? Maybe even respect? Just because it's in nature, doesn't make it right or wrong.
Homosexuality is right because it's consenting, and all that jazz.
But NOBODY would want their body violated by another person when they're dead, or what their relatives fucked when they're dead. I could understand if they signed a document saying "yes, you can all fuck my body," but as of yet, no document exists to my knowledge.
2 Years acclimation prior to marriage. Some churches do this to ensure that the person you want to be with is the one. IN short, you marry for the right reasons. Gays are not marrying for the right reasons. They want "benefits". Money. Welfare check for having their asses reamed for a decade. We didn't marry for that. We married for love. Their perversion isn't love. It is lust. Simple as that.
Taipano, I find your views on other people's motivation amusing. For you to say gay people don't marry for love... um, how do YOU know? Personally, not being gay, I wouldn't attempt to speak for them; what gives you such insight? personal experience?
"Gays want money... welfare checks..." wow, that's some mighty strong Kool-aid you been drinkin' ...
Really T, tell us why gays bother you so much? And if marriage is this country's building block, I ask again: divorce bother you too?
Known enough gays in my time to look them in the eye and wonder exactly what the hell am I looking at. I swear it was like looking into the the abyss with some of them.
Why else would gays want marriage? The only word out of their mouths is "benefits" like they are entitled to ripping the taxpayers off.
Divorce bothers me because it tells me people married for the wrong reasons and they didn't take the time to consider their choice wisely.
Taip: "The only word out of their mouths is "benefits" like they are entitled to ripping the taxpayers off." By your logic, hetero spouses with benefits claims (which would still outnumber gays 100:1) are a MUCH larger "ripoff" to the taxpayers... does that bother you too?
Looking into an abyss? really? after reading such a ridiculous thing, I'm now convinced you've never met one.
Look, I don't get them either, but I don't understand why people like yourself seem to get so riled over it
I would rather see the benefits revoked. Marriage banned on Federal and state level. I would rather see the institution of marriage shelved than given to the gays so they can defile it.
We shouldn't be promoting abnormal behavior as being something good. That is what riles people up. They want to be degenerate, fine. Our society shouldn't be forced to follow suit.
Taip: "Divorce bothers me .. people married for wrong reasons ... didn't take the time to consider their choice wisely."
In your world do people never change over the course of 10, 15, 20 years? Are YOU the same person you were 20 years ago? Don't u think it's possible that, as a person and their partner change, the things that made the union perfect at one time are no longer there? Does that make one "unwise" or "human"? I hope reality doesn't disappoint u with its imperfections.
Of course people change. that comes with the territory. So either dissolve the construct of marriage and call it flawed for humans to be faithful to one person for life or promote it and encourage people to keep up with the changes their love is going through. I have been married going on 9 years. Have we changed? Sure but we listen to each other and work with each other. Lots of couples can't even handle that part.
Taip: 9 years, congrats. 12 for me (so far) and one kid. I still do not understand how allowing gays to marry affects your marriage or mine. It so does not bother me, that I'm baffled that anyone would spend any of their energy opposing that which does not impact them. I'm not seeing a "gay agenda" because I'm convinced homosexuality is not contagious. So when folks talk about "defending marriage" I ask: who's attacking it? My marriage is not threatened, nor is yours, no?
It's not about contagious, although the rather fascinating death viruses they tend to create are. But that is besides the point. Marriage for us is about love and for some, alliances for power or wealth. A homosexual wants the legal aspects of marriage which is fine. We simply are changing the word. They don't like that. Too bad. Our word contains power. For the gays? It is validation and forced acceptance. (cont)
TAIP: "rather fascinating death viruses they tend to create..."
If you actually believe that gays "created" AIDS, you need to go back to wherever you received your science education and demand a refund... really, c'mon man ... you don't really think that, do you?
Our society came together with an understanding there are certain rules to abide by. Marriage is a social construct that best serves the union of a man and woman because it encourages family development and ultimately, for the government, a future tax base. Gays cannot offer this, not naturally, and the IRS isn't going assume they ever will. To me, it is a tax break for a being a deviant with a negative sum impact on society in the "Long" run.
Gays are only focused on the short term and that is what they want you to see. They are not asking for equal rights, they want special rights. An expansion of a realm that was never theirs to begin with. They reject the fact that I have standards, morals, and values. They play upon the fact that people will lean towards sympathy than actual logic of the situation. As soon as gay marriage was allowed by fiat in Mass, the gays couldn't wait to change the entire (cont)
school curriculum to "promote" homosexuality as a viable alternative to heterosexuality. They want to get to our children and indoctrinate them into thinking being gay is acceptable and the standards of society are un-needed. Our marriages are not threatened, you are right. Our childrens' are. When they see we no longer can discriminate between right and wrong and blur the lines of gender roles, they will never honor what marriage is and what family is. (cont)
Look around you. Broken homes. Single parents. All this happened over 30 years of liberals doing everything they can to wreck the traditional family so they can create "other" kinds of families. I am defending a noble institution from corruption and immorality. I don't view gays as moral people and the fact another man would allow another man to screw him in the pooper makes me question his judgement and his character. Congrads on your 12th.
actually... in less than 10 years pretty much all the atoms you were made of then, have been exchanged. So if you look at a photo from e.g. your cildhood -you physically are not the same person anymore.
Hey cool conjecture, Coolbiggov. Mind providing an argument to persuade me that your thinking is correct? I doubt you'll be able to produce anything remotely intelligible, but it sure will be funny to see you try. I wish you luck, you crazy hick. lol
"He's not your neighbor, he's your son." This guy is an idiot. Anyone who takes the Bible, especially the New King James version, a poorly translated book, at the literal face is a moron deserving of no more than a punch in the face.
Is this old prick still alive? Thick of the shock that he won't get when he dies and learns, that is the end. I think all the fags in his town should have a picnic on his lawn.
Gays are not a threat to marriage folks, but divorce is. So let's make a new law: filing for divorce gets you 10 years in prison. Locked in a cell WITH the spouse you want to be rid of. All in favor? say AYE !
why do people bash Pat Robertson for speaking truth? Should we bash God for writing the bible? People bash truth because they're afraid to walk in it. It's their way of coping with something seemingly too hard for them. But the Word of God says "His commands are not burdensome." Pat Robertson stands for truth..and for that I applaud him.
The problem is you and he believing in a piece of paper written by people of whom you have no idea whether or not they "spoke to God". Some hobo on the street now says they speak to God, they're crazy, but if it was written in a book hundreds of years ago? They're prophets, damn it! Idiocy.
wow. you're certain God wrote the bible because...? your parents told you it was true? really, where do you get such certainty over things no human knows? you're certain you know the Word of God
Robertson here is saying something that's just plain stupid: that there aren't any homosexuals, there are just victims of some abuse that "turned them into homosexuals". Really? think about it, for a change: if YOU were abused, would it make YOU suddenly be sexually attracted to another man?
Well, whoever wrote that God's people should take young girls for themselves, as part of a military conquest/slaughter; whoever said that it was part of God's perfect plan that slave masters should be permitted to give their slaves brutal beatings, as they are property...yes, we should bash that person, God or not.
"so called" homosexual?.....oh that's right..........Pat refers to them as HOMO'S when he thinks no one is listening.......this man is as wishy washy as any person I have ever seen.......I see him (Pat) as an out right liar
I know I said things to you that upset you and for that I am sorry. In a sense I was looking to hurt you and everyone because I feel, still do, that this assault on marriage is an assault on our country and our choices. I feel that gays are trying to harm our country. Our children. That they enjoy seeing something honorable and noble be ridden into the ground, kicked, and abused. I have known gays. Only a few were good people. The rest? They are in prison.
Taipano: if you have some limited negative experience with gays, well no one can deny you your own personal hate for them. But do the pose an "assault on our country"??? do u REALLY think like that? I have a wife and 2 kids, and I can not, for the life of me, figure out why anyone is upset about gays wanting to get married. How does it threaten me? Please explain. Only threats to marriage are divorce, infidelity. Do you oppose these things too? really I want to know.
Like everything else, you people only look at the "now" perspective. That view is what got us in trouble with the economy and a whole host of other things. It isn't about now. It is about the future. When you start screwing with something that acts as a building block for this country of ours by showing we accept all comers into an elite institution (no perversions is too sick!) then our kids will never value it or take it seriously because we didn't.
Hard to be emotionally worked up over someone who sort of set themselves for the situation as bad as it was. I looked at this way as well: one less democrat to deal with as well. And considering his background, probably one less welfare recipient. Sorry to be callous, but resources are resources.
Someone needs to remove this person from existence.
chinopisces 3 weeks ago
This man has never met a homosexual in his life.
emantabrizi 4 months ago
He is completely right. Debate his arguments if you can.
reallysecretusername 6 months ago
@reallysecretusername: You're an idiot.
chinopisces 3 weeks ago
1:18 the woman is thinking "What a loon"
Newground990 1 year ago
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Homosexuals do not want you to know that many of them were sexually abused when young, because many people who were so abused go on to molest others. And homosexuals do not want you to know that they are more likely to molest children than heterosexuals are. Ray Blanchard, et al., "Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000), p. 464
MrBrassbull 7 months ago
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• 1. Research designed to prove that gays and lesbians are "born that way" has come up empty — there is no scientific evidence that being gay or lesbian is genetically determined” Matthew Brelis, "The Fading 'Gay Gene,'" The Boston Globe, March 20, 2002, p. C1.
MrBrassbull 7 months ago
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80% of homosexual men were repeatedly sexually abused by an adult while they were still a child, most before they were 10 years old and by older men or by a close male family member, male friend, or authority figure. [v] Child Abuse and Neglect 16, no.6, 1992, pp.855-64
MrBrassbull 7 months ago
This will probably be blocked but we"ll try GO GET EM PAT
meanring69 1 year ago
Pat is on the way to hell as we speak. PRAISE JESUS!!!
Xceles618 1 year ago
Hey garysher, take your bible thumping ass to CBN and stay there. My brother is homosexual. He was fruity since the day he was born. No one touched him or made him homosexual. He grew up better than me. He had my father and his mother, as I just had my mother. I'm not homosexual. I'm a dad with three kids. Did I grow up in a weird stigmatized family?
nalani005 1 year ago
The point is that many people are confused about their sexuality especially young people.
By encouraging them to pursue a homosexual lifestyle and pretending it is equivalent to a normal heterosexual yearning, you are putting these sad young people in a position to feel full of guilt and stigma about their deviant behaviour.
Suicide victims usually have all kinds of personlity issues.
You can delude yourself about homosexuality all you want but those suicide victims will never come back.
garysher3 1 year ago
He's just making stuff up. There's no evidence that "most" homosexuals are there way from sexual abuse.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@garysher3 what exactly constitutes "indunging" in homosexuality? Is it ok for people to encourage indulging in heterosexuality? or are you just against teenage sex in general?
aurynblue 1 year ago
Pat Robertson is right. Parents need to be firm with their teenage children, many of whom think they are homosexual but are just confused.
It is wrong for the homosexual community to encourage youngsters - or anyone else - to indulge in homosexuality.
It is no better than offering a teenager a whisky
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 i think pat robertson is saying fathers need to be "less firm" with their kids ;)
jmrut1992 1 year ago
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@garysher3 i think mr. robertson is saying male figures need to be "less firm" with teenage children ;)
jmrut1992 1 year ago
@garysher3 Considering every major medical and scientific institution says that being homosexual is natural and a completely healthy way to live your life, how is it comparable to whiskey? Gays are just as capable as forming lifelong bonds as straight people (I've met gay couples who had been together for 30+ years) and if they use proper protection and limit sexual partners, homosexuals are at no higher risk of STIs.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 The fact homosexuality occurs in Nature doesn't make it natural because it does not conform with the purpose of human sexuality, which is to procreate.
Homosexuality is deviant human behaviour and parents should discourage their children from experimenting with it. Perhaps we can reduce the number of teen suicides if we give them good advice. and not pretend its ok to be gay
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 Perhaps there would be less teen suicides, if we gave them good advice...like ignoring people who tell them it's not ok to be who they are.
I'd ask if using birth control to not conform with purpose of human sexuality is deviant human behavior...but you'd probably just say "Yes".
"Remember kids...it's not ok to use condoms! Otherwise you deserve to be bullied to death!"
I wonder how that would fly?
DashCat9 1 year ago
@DashCat9 Perhaps there would be less teen suicides, if we gave them good advice...like ignoring people who tell them it's not ok to be who they are."
That's not good advice.
Nobody is born homo. We should work on straightening out these poor confused kids
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 I wonder what's more confusing. Coming to terms with the fact that you're different, or being told by the people you love and trust that who you are isn't acceptable and you need to be 'fixed'.
I'm sure love, support and acceptance has caused more suicides than any attempts to "fix"...oh wait. That's not true at all.
Believe what you want about gay people....and keep telling yourself that confused kids that are committing suicide would have been better off being further ridiculed.
DashCat9 1 year ago
@DashCat9 You are trying to use guilt as a way to ward off loving advice.
When a family stages an intervention for a loved one they do so out of love.
Guiding a would-be homosexual away from homosexuality is no different.
When you try to play the victim card you play a dangerous game which sometimes ends in a tragic suicide
garysher3 1 year ago
What causes more suicides? Loving acceptance, or rejection and ridicule? I acknowledge that even if a family accepts a person for who they are, they may still be subject to ridicule from others, and *that* is the problem. This notion that gay people are deviants who are to be looked down upon and the environment this attitude breeds is what causes the suicides. Not the homosexual behavior itself.
You can believe it's wrong all you want. Consensual homosexuality behavior harms no one.
DashCat9 1 year ago
@garysher3 Considering homosexuals are perfectly capable of forming loving relationships and it is psychologically harmful to try to change your orientation, why ask them to change?
Any certified psychologist would disagree with you about teen suicide. You don't see anyone committing suicide because they think they are gay and people are telling them it's okay... people commit suicide because they think they may be gay and are told by parents and/or society that it is wrong.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
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@houseofswans1 people commit suicide because they think they may be gay and are told by parents and/or society that it is wrong."
Why would that make them commit suicide instead of working on changing back to normality?
You assume far too much just so you can help whiny homosexuals to play the victim.
Have you heard of anyone commit suicide because they were heterosexual?
garysher3 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 people commit suicide because they think they may be gay and are told by parents and/or society that it is wrong."
People commit suicide for all kinds of reasons.
You are too quick to jump to conclusions without knowing the details of each tragic victim.
You should be ashamed of trying to capitalise on these tragic deaths. Nobody commits suicide because they are heterosexual
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 First of all, you brought up the suicides first. And you're the one speaking for other people. Okay let's do this - speaking *personally* as a gay adult: I thought about suicide because I knew I was gay but I didn't have any positive gay role models to talk to and couldn't turn to my parents, so I felt utterly alone. Since coming to terms with myself and coming out, I'm happy and never think of suicide. I would have never considered suicide if I'd been told being gay is okay.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 What's a "positive gay role model"?
It's an oxymoron. There is nothing positive about pursuing a homosexual lifestyle.
Choose it if you will but don't be surprised if normal people aren't falling over themselves with admiration
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 I've met many positive gay role models in the past year. They're the people who have been with their partners for 30+ years, and some have even raised beautiful children too. Meeting them, plus taking courses in college and reading scientific literature, showed me that same-sex relationships are no different than straight ones, and being gay doesn't mean you have to be a sex-crazed person afraid of commitment - the stereotype people like you love to push.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 How sad that those selfish homosexuals would deliberately deny children both a father and a mother.
Instead they condemn them to live in a weird stigmatised envirnonment
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 You have a habit of just picking out one sentence from my comment instead of replying to the whole thing, but whatever *shrug*
The thing is, there is insurmountable evidence that children raised by same sex couples are perfectly healthy and have no higher chance of being nonheterosexual than kids raised by opposite sex couples. You can hold to old ideals and stereotypes and debate it all you want, but when you look at the hard data there is no debate...
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 There is also insurmountable evidence that homosexuals who adopt children deliberately deny those children either a mother or a father.
You may think being raised by a mum and dad is some kind of old fashioned stereotype but most people disagree with your selfish self-centred unbalanced attitudes.
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 I'm going to go with the hard evidence and not the popular opinion. The hard evidence is a child being raised by two same-sex parents fair just as well as those raised by opposite-sex partners. Says who? The Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Bar Association, American Medical Association, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, National Adoption Center and many others.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 When they say children fare just as well do they consider the lack of either a mother or a father?
If you read their 'studies' you'll find they use tiny samples, as few as 17 couples, who fill out a questionnaire critiquing their own parenting skills.
Not exactly hard evidence to reverse millennia if human wisdom
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 If you are going to base your beliefs off how things have always been done for the past millennia then go get a slave and treat your wife as property.
How does 78 lesbian-raised children studied for 24 years sound? Where they found ZERO rate of child abuse and only 2.8 of the children identified as homosexual. If being gay was a choice I'd expect that to be much higher considering they were raised by gay parents...
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@garysher3 I'm through arguing with you. Just a final point: I contemplated suicide as a teenager because I went on the internet and saw hateful comments like yours. And you think you're helping people, you really do. It's sad. Traditional views have been wrong before, and traditional views on homosexuality are. None of it stands up to scientific scrutiny. Finally we are seeing social change, and society will be the better for it as they accept another group as their equals.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 I contemplated suicide as a teenager because I went on the internet and saw hateful comments like yours"
It had nothing to do with my comments and everything to do with your conscience
garysher3 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 Ignore Garysher, he is a British Immigrant to California and is a low life Troll looking for attention on youtube.
He is although, very indicative of a typical homophobe so he does serve at least SOME sort of purpose!...lol
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
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@garysher3 Hey garysher, take your bible thumping ass to CBN and stay there. My brother is homosexual. He was fruity since the day he was born. No one touched him or made him homosexual. He grew up better than me. He had my father and his mother, as I just had my mother. I'm not homosexual. I'm a dad with three kids. Did I grow up in a weird stigmatized family?
nalani005 1 year ago
What a dumb fuck
He is the reason there is hate in the world
Xwowplaya 1 year ago
What a disgusting man.
Vandal49 1 year ago
"so-called homosexuals" -- LOL WTF! Pat you're an abomination!
marcostar57 1 year ago
Islam condemns homosexuality, but it sounds so humorous because 90 % of muslims practice homosexuality and 90 % of their women are lesbians. I am from the Middle East, I know muslims very well, men love to have sex with children and with men. Women are the same, they love young girls for lust.
saraa49 1 year ago
that guy is a bigoted right wing jackass. homosexuality is not some kind of mental disease because of abuse, it is a persons orientation. i know so because im bisexual and i was never abused as a kid, i developed it during my teenage years.
evb4mvp 1 year ago
The greatest of all ironies, he forgot to mention PRIESTS! This man is a nut, someone put his ass in a straight jacket. I don't agree with homosexuality, but I respect ppl as human beings and if they are actracted to the fucking same sex, then that it's their life. Ppl don't live on this fucking planet to plz some imaginary shit that lives int he sky.
I'm just realizing now that I dislike fucks like this guy more than I dislike homosexuality. Now I find that pretty funny.
TheyFeedingULies 1 year ago
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ATHEIST bitches are thee most VIOLENT ABUSIVE OFFENSIVE pieces of shit that Graced this Planet and YOU australian Bitches are almost the worst!!! Yeah You are thee most Stupid shit for all to see!! RETARD
pabankhead1 2 years ago
Pat shut the fuck up you old fuck! You speak non sense. I am not a psychiatrist, however, I believe you have schizofrenia. Do us a huge favor and go to a nursery home for the elder and stay there forever. This goes to all you hypocrite evangelical thieves!
cerritoboy 2 years ago 8
@cerritoboy YOU FUCKING ROCK!!!!!!
dominojoey 1 year ago
cant wait fotr this douchebag to drop dead already... and why does he never discuss people going to hell for eating pork?or shellfish?a no no in the bible . i love how these idiots pick and choose what is right and what is not. either follow all of it or none of it...
rcrb123 2 years ago
Im with you, but there are many who will take his place. And they just keep getting louder and nastier
seeingglass86 2 years ago
Ellen and Rosie said that they could have been happy with a man. Rosie is now talking about being abused as a child. Many homosexuals have been created by abuse, persuasion and just pure corruption. The Bible says that it is an abomination and it also says there is a way out. What Pat said is good advice, love your child but don't accept that he's sinning.
eighthberyl 2 years ago
Kill all child molestors. There is an answer. However, that won't happen b/c u would eliminate most of the Catholic Church. We only know the abuses that come to light, imagine how many others that haven't. U know how many American politicians are homo's? Shit, that's a lot of white males that have been molested.
Finally, the only sin here is the self-righteous fucks who use the BS Bible as a tool for reason, and to tell ppl how to live.
TheyFeedingULies 1 year ago
I do not remember being converted except by my parents telling me not to fool around with girls in the dark(WHICH I LIKED TO DO AT AGE 11)
SCOTSDOC 2 years ago
eqsmooth. Ditto. at least someone on here has sense:D
juicEKanN 2 years ago
If you love him you'll tell him he's going to hell??? Christians really are whacko. Christianity is about using a religion to justify your hatred of minorities such as homosexuals. How can people be taken in by this guy whose made millions out of exploiting people's ignorance and supersition?
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
Let's get to the obvious: Homosexuality has nothing to do with morality. It is not good or bad. It just is. You don't turn into a faggot because your mom dominated you or you liked your mom better than your dad or your spent time playing with fucking barbies or GI JOES. Both activities are creepy though. A priest molests you, then you become gay? No. You might like boys and girls. So what? The sexiest girls I know also like to have sex w/women. Good on 'em. No harm, no foul. NO FUCKING SIN.
eqsmooth 2 years ago
It is no secret people who think they may be gay are at a higher risk of committing suicide.
Suicide is also a mortal sin, you may as well gay it up and enjoy your life.
Besides, when did my bud Pat know how all gays become gay?
p.s. Pat loves him some Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals...it is in his profile on CBN.
ToManifest 2 years ago
I will be so glad when this bloak crocks just like Jerry Falwell.
LordMalice6d9 2 years ago 2
exactly how did he come to this conclusion? is this some research he's done, or is it somehow, some way, an understanding he has... as if he's had to wrestle with the difficulty? you don't come up with this theory out of nowhere.
grokagain 2 years ago
Rosie O'Donnell was molested.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
somebody should have gotten deep into why Pat Robertson is what he is.
TheConcernedPatriot 2 years ago
If this country were a Christian theocracy ruled by hard line Evangelicals, you can bet your ass there would be concentration camps for non believers. In time all non believers would be rounded up and tossed into the ovens. I've heard their rhetoric. As far as they are concerned, you either live by biblical dogma or you shouldn't exist. You should be eliminated. There are summer camps where kids, yes kids, are sent and taught to be "Chrisitain warriors." They're taught to hate.
nosajj123 2 years ago 2
yeah one of their favorite arguments against Islam is that Christian country s are more "civilized". But if they could get away with suicide bombings and stoning Homosexuals to death you bet they would. Its our "Evil" secular laws that stop these holy psychos
youcutmelegoff 2 years ago
" Its our "Evil" secular laws that stop these holy psychos"
Yes, and that is why secularism has ultimately saved many more lives than religion has. Because it is secularist ideals that keep people from wanting cut your head off, or prevent religious wars from happening.
LordMalice6d9 2 years ago
I know I have seen it. Some of my family members go to a church that is called "The army of God ministries" Which clearly shows they are preparing for some type of battle. It's a little scary what you said but nonetheless true.
mrtnsamson 2 years ago
That is exactly the reason why the Religious Right should never be able to gain political power.
LordMalice6d9 2 years ago
@nosajj123 Ever seen the movie Jesus Camp? It is scary!
cerritoboy 1 year ago
Its a matter of time before these tele-evangalists go away. I went to Jerry Falwell's University..so I think I am entitled to comment...the super-right wing religious guys have spread so much hate and discrimination in this country. I think the majority is beginning to see that...
MissNevada08 2 years ago
Interesting. I think they'll fade away if the money fades away...
whereitsat309 2 years ago
Um...Pat, you kinda look like Satan.....
windew 2 years ago
Well, who turned Pat Robertson into a dumbass? That's what I want to know.
LawdHelp 2 years ago
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alkhorAHM 2 years ago
How many more right-wing bigots like Pat Robertson need to get caught writing emails to under-aged boys, or soliciting homosexual sex in airport bathrooms, or visiting whores, or fucking their staff member's wives, or falling in love with "soul mates" in Argentina, before we realize that THESE HYPOCRITES ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY -- Period.
taoofmichael 2 years ago 10
Of course
mrtnsamson 2 years ago
Very.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Yes, 10% of the population has been molested or abused sexually, and this has, in turn, made them homosexual.
Just because you can't understand how men could possibly be attracted to men, doesn't mean you can make up some complete bullshit like, "They were molested".
I can't understand how people can worship a god, but I don't say, "Well, religious people must have had a bad experience with atheism." That would be idiotic.
BeanSand 2 years ago 2
Yes Yes 0% of the population has been molested or abused sexually thus scaring them away from sexual relations that remind them of their abuser.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Where did I say that?
BeanSand 2 years ago
Pat Robertson stands for almost everything that is wrong with religion.
285386o 2 years ago 3
The big question is, what causes the drooling idiocy of the Pat Robertson/700 Club fans.
Permaglo 2 years ago
Maybe he was abused by the gay guy at Duke U. who tried to rent a kid to another pervert.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Molestation by another male might explain his neurotic fear of homosexuals, 99.99% of whom are not pedophiles.
Permaglo 2 years ago
You do know Gacy never admitted to killing all those boys right?
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
It's a shame Gacy never met Pat Robertson.
Permaglo 2 years ago
how about ted Haggard??? is he one of those "male figures" that you're referring to?? just wondering
perfectbark 2 years ago
you mean a "male figure" like a catholic priest Roberson?? just wondering
perfectbark 2 years ago
You think the clergy is free of gay priests who have a thing for little boys?
think again.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
do you think molestation of boys by "closet homosexual priests is still an issue in 2009 in American or elsewhere in the world??
what's your opinion?
perfectbark 2 years ago
Let me put is this way.
If you have a dick and your sexually attracted to someone else with a dick it doesn't matter what age they are.
You're gay.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
huh?? ......... you didn't answer my question ....... do you think that catholic priests are still molesting boys in 2009??
perfectbark 2 years ago
yes I think some gay priests are still molesting boys in 2009.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
There was a law and order episode that had men who would fuck each other, but get mad if anyone called them gay. Their reason was that they weren't gay, because they didnt love the men they would fuck. It sounds silly, but is homosexuality only related to sex (eros) or love too?
belaires 2 years ago
Let me put is this way.
If you have a dick and you want to have sex with someone else with a dick you're gay.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Jamie Lee Curtis had testicles. Does that count?
belaires 2 years ago
That's an urban legend.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
what a nut ball !
just1transfan 2 years ago
Yes HomoCyborgZombie is.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
not all Christians believe this , go see my videos
canyonwlkr 2 years ago
Robertson is a rambling foolio.
rasaxSF 2 years ago
Pat Roberts is a homo... himself
sjcpal 2 years ago
It may offend alot of gays but the fact is many homosexuals are the victims of sexual abuse early in life.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Something they deny vehemently.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
But it remains true.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
so how do you explain homosexual penguins (a couple are currently raising an egg in a German zoo, I believe) and the hundreds of other observed homo behavior amongst animals? were they too molested as pups? why does gayness bother anybody? If you feel it's an insult to God, don't you think God is able to deal with it, that He needs no help from you? I just don't get it...
enntheta 2 years ago
"so how do you explain homosexual penguins"
Oh great another idiot claiming that because animals do it it's ok.
Do you think having sex with the dead is ok? 'cause necrophilia has been reported in ducks.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
I realize it's a big thought, but try to hang in there...
the point was that Robertson and many religious types believe homosexuals are "turned into being gay" by some incident (molestation etc).
Since animals don't really have the capacity to carry around such emotional baggage, and since some number of them exhibit homosexual behavior, it's clear that some are just wired that way. Why not the same for humans? I eagerly await your explanation, since I'm such an idiot...
enntheta 2 years ago
Again necrophilia has been reported in ducks.
if we were to use the logic it would become legal to dig up a date.....so that's your goal.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
hey CHARES: is necrophilia a big problem in your neighbor? cuz you seem kinda hung up on it...
maybe you can answer this one: where does one get the nerve to call someone else an idiot, while being complete unable to answer that "idiot's" question?
Just in case you've forgotten, the question is:
do you think animals exhibit homosexual behaviors because they were molested as youngsters? what is it exactly that drives such anti-procreational acts? and can we stick to the topic at hand?
enntheta 2 years ago
Hey your the freak who thinks it should be legal.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Homosexuals for Necrophilia and Pederasty: Taking the Christian view of loving your neighbor to a whole new level since 1989!
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Hey, ever consider consent? Maybe even respect? Just because it's in nature, doesn't make it right or wrong.
Homosexuality is right because it's consenting, and all that jazz.
But NOBODY would want their body violated by another person when they're dead, or what their relatives fucked when they're dead. I could understand if they signed a document saying "yes, you can all fuck my body," but as of yet, no document exists to my knowledge.
See the difference?
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
Guess you aprove of consentual incest.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
By definition, incest is consensual.
So yes.
Also, you're a christian I assume from your favourites yes?
You know that incest is common in the bible? :3
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
You assume to much.
And incest happens twice in the bible and that's if your a literalist.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
"By definition, incest is consensual.
So yes."
You need to see a psychiatrist.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Right, and cannibalism only happens five times if you're a literalist.
Citation needed.
Please, amuse me.
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
amuse yourself go see a psychiatrist about your issues.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
What issues? :3
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
Your problem understanding that incest is wrong.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Again, prove it.
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
"By definition, incest is consensual.
So yes."
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
I'm glad we agree that hillbillies can have sex with the only people that will fuck them. :3
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
I said no such thing.
And your belief that consensual incest is ok is proof that you need to see a psychiatrist.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
And you're denial of being a control freak is proof that you need to see a psychiatrist.
Get out of peoples lives. :D
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
I'm a freak?
Your the one who aproves of incest. >P
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Aw, he thinks he's making a point ^-^
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
What's that?
your trying to draw attention away from your support of incest?
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
What's that? You hate love?
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
What you do with your family members isn't love.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Wait what?
Okay:
1. Family is always about love. Got it?
2. If some fuck what's to take it to the next level with a member, that's their problem. It's not yours to interfere.
You're a control freak. You want to get into peoples bed rooms.
Something tells me, that since you're so against it, I think you have hot cousin syndrome.
First stage is denial. :3
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
"If some fuck what's to take it to the next level with a member, that's their problem. It's not yours to interfere."
I'm going to let someone else explain to you just how wrong you are.
In the mean time you might want to look up a psychiatrist in your phone book.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
So you admit you're wrong? :3
Or just too stupid to refute?
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
You actually think I'm going to say that incest is ok?
ROTFLMFAO!
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
So it's the second one? :3
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
Actually the law should be:
2 Years acclimation prior to marriage. Some churches do this to ensure that the person you want to be with is the one. IN short, you marry for the right reasons. Gays are not marrying for the right reasons. They want "benefits". Money. Welfare check for having their asses reamed for a decade. We didn't marry for that. We married for love. Their perversion isn't love. It is lust. Simple as that.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Taipano, I find your views on other people's motivation amusing. For you to say gay people don't marry for love... um, how do YOU know? Personally, not being gay, I wouldn't attempt to speak for them; what gives you such insight? personal experience?
"Gays want money... welfare checks..." wow, that's some mighty strong Kool-aid you been drinkin' ...
Really T, tell us why gays bother you so much? And if marriage is this country's building block, I ask again: divorce bother you too?
enntheta 2 years ago
Known enough gays in my time to look them in the eye and wonder exactly what the hell am I looking at. I swear it was like looking into the the abyss with some of them.
Why else would gays want marriage? The only word out of their mouths is "benefits" like they are entitled to ripping the taxpayers off.
Divorce bothers me because it tells me people married for the wrong reasons and they didn't take the time to consider their choice wisely.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Taip: "The only word out of their mouths is "benefits" like they are entitled to ripping the taxpayers off." By your logic, hetero spouses with benefits claims (which would still outnumber gays 100:1) are a MUCH larger "ripoff" to the taxpayers... does that bother you too?
Looking into an abyss? really? after reading such a ridiculous thing, I'm now convinced you've never met one.
Look, I don't get them either, but I don't understand why people like yourself seem to get so riled over it
enntheta 2 years ago
I would rather see the benefits revoked. Marriage banned on Federal and state level. I would rather see the institution of marriage shelved than given to the gays so they can defile it.
We shouldn't be promoting abnormal behavior as being something good. That is what riles people up. They want to be degenerate, fine. Our society shouldn't be forced to follow suit.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Taip: "Divorce bothers me .. people married for wrong reasons ... didn't take the time to consider their choice wisely."
In your world do people never change over the course of 10, 15, 20 years? Are YOU the same person you were 20 years ago? Don't u think it's possible that, as a person and their partner change, the things that made the union perfect at one time are no longer there? Does that make one "unwise" or "human"? I hope reality doesn't disappoint u with its imperfections.
enntheta 2 years ago
Of course people change. that comes with the territory. So either dissolve the construct of marriage and call it flawed for humans to be faithful to one person for life or promote it and encourage people to keep up with the changes their love is going through. I have been married going on 9 years. Have we changed? Sure but we listen to each other and work with each other. Lots of couples can't even handle that part.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Taip: 9 years, congrats. 12 for me (so far) and one kid. I still do not understand how allowing gays to marry affects your marriage or mine. It so does not bother me, that I'm baffled that anyone would spend any of their energy opposing that which does not impact them. I'm not seeing a "gay agenda" because I'm convinced homosexuality is not contagious. So when folks talk about "defending marriage" I ask: who's attacking it? My marriage is not threatened, nor is yours, no?
enntheta 2 years ago
It's not about contagious, although the rather fascinating death viruses they tend to create are. But that is besides the point. Marriage for us is about love and for some, alliances for power or wealth. A homosexual wants the legal aspects of marriage which is fine. We simply are changing the word. They don't like that. Too bad. Our word contains power. For the gays? It is validation and forced acceptance. (cont)
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
TAIP: "rather fascinating death viruses they tend to create..."
If you actually believe that gays "created" AIDS, you need to go back to wherever you received your science education and demand a refund... really, c'mon man ... you don't really think that, do you?
enntheta 2 years ago
I don't care who created it. I know where it hit the hardest and who was the most susceptible.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Our society came together with an understanding there are certain rules to abide by. Marriage is a social construct that best serves the union of a man and woman because it encourages family development and ultimately, for the government, a future tax base. Gays cannot offer this, not naturally, and the IRS isn't going assume they ever will. To me, it is a tax break for a being a deviant with a negative sum impact on society in the "Long" run.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Gays are only focused on the short term and that is what they want you to see. They are not asking for equal rights, they want special rights. An expansion of a realm that was never theirs to begin with. They reject the fact that I have standards, morals, and values. They play upon the fact that people will lean towards sympathy than actual logic of the situation. As soon as gay marriage was allowed by fiat in Mass, the gays couldn't wait to change the entire (cont)
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
school curriculum to "promote" homosexuality as a viable alternative to heterosexuality. They want to get to our children and indoctrinate them into thinking being gay is acceptable and the standards of society are un-needed. Our marriages are not threatened, you are right. Our childrens' are. When they see we no longer can discriminate between right and wrong and blur the lines of gender roles, they will never honor what marriage is and what family is. (cont)
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Look around you. Broken homes. Single parents. All this happened over 30 years of liberals doing everything they can to wreck the traditional family so they can create "other" kinds of families. I am defending a noble institution from corruption and immorality. I don't view gays as moral people and the fact another man would allow another man to screw him in the pooper makes me question his judgement and his character. Congrads on your 12th.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
actually... in less than 10 years pretty much all the atoms you were made of then, have been exchanged. So if you look at a photo from e.g. your cildhood -you physically are not the same person anymore.
AntiSkill42 2 years ago
Hey cool conjecture, Coolbiggov. Mind providing an argument to persuade me that your thinking is correct? I doubt you'll be able to produce anything remotely intelligible, but it sure will be funny to see you try. I wish you luck, you crazy hick. lol
rehxyz 2 years ago
Robertson: the Christian Mullah
tejaspics 2 years ago
"He's not your neighbor, he's your son." This guy is an idiot. Anyone who takes the Bible, especially the New King James version, a poorly translated book, at the literal face is a moron deserving of no more than a punch in the face.
thebrainsquid 2 years ago 3
I feel sad at the thought that anyone might actually take this nut's advice seriously.
reannamator 2 years ago 3
People taking his advice and (more importantly) giving him their money made this nut rich and powerful.
BeondaPale 2 years ago
Is this old prick still alive? Thick of the shock that he won't get when he dies and learns, that is the end. I think all the fags in his town should have a picnic on his lawn.
buddcinder 2 years ago 4
A picnic on his lawn... thanks for the laugh!
enntheta 2 years ago
Gays are not a threat to marriage folks, but divorce is. So let's make a new law: filing for divorce gets you 10 years in prison. Locked in a cell WITH the spouse you want to be rid of. All in favor? say AYE !
enntheta 2 years ago 2
Would someone please shoot this cocksucker in the face?!
keithmoslak 2 years ago 2
I'd be happy to rid the airwaves of ALL of these hypocritical psycopathic evengelists
jst2k09 2 years ago 2
Pat Robertson: the Christian Mullah
tejaspics 2 years ago 2
why do people bash Pat Robertson for speaking truth? Should we bash God for writing the bible? People bash truth because they're afraid to walk in it. It's their way of coping with something seemingly too hard for them. But the Word of God says "His commands are not burdensome." Pat Robertson stands for truth..and for that I applaud him.
freypark123 2 years ago
The problem is you and he believing in a piece of paper written by people of whom you have no idea whether or not they "spoke to God". Some hobo on the street now says they speak to God, they're crazy, but if it was written in a book hundreds of years ago? They're prophets, damn it! Idiocy.
trapsmv9 2 years ago
wow. you're certain God wrote the bible because...? your parents told you it was true? really, where do you get such certainty over things no human knows? you're certain you know the Word of God
Robertson here is saying something that's just plain stupid: that there aren't any homosexuals, there are just victims of some abuse that "turned them into homosexuals". Really? think about it, for a change: if YOU were abused, would it make YOU suddenly be sexually attracted to another man?
enntheta 2 years ago 3
Hmm, should we bash God for writing the Bible?
Well, whoever wrote that God's people should take young girls for themselves, as part of a military conquest/slaughter; whoever said that it was part of God's perfect plan that slave masters should be permitted to give their slaves brutal beatings, as they are property...yes, we should bash that person, God or not.
I am better than your god.
MishaVargas 2 years ago 3
"so called" homosexual?.....oh that's right..........Pat refers to them as HOMO'S when he thinks no one is listening.......this man is as wishy washy as any person I have ever seen.......I see him (Pat) as an out right liar
kenjo4u 2 years ago 2
he's a 101 ~ U bastard ~ answer the freekin' question~
timberpyres 2 years ago
another fail from this guy
Tallacus 2 years ago
This man needs to go away.
jaraha 2 years ago 2
I know I said things to you that upset you and for that I am sorry. In a sense I was looking to hurt you and everyone because I feel, still do, that this assault on marriage is an assault on our country and our choices. I feel that gays are trying to harm our country. Our children. That they enjoy seeing something honorable and noble be ridden into the ground, kicked, and abused. I have known gays. Only a few were good people. The rest? They are in prison.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Taipano: if you have some limited negative experience with gays, well no one can deny you your own personal hate for them. But do the pose an "assault on our country"??? do u REALLY think like that? I have a wife and 2 kids, and I can not, for the life of me, figure out why anyone is upset about gays wanting to get married. How does it threaten me? Please explain. Only threats to marriage are divorce, infidelity. Do you oppose these things too? really I want to know.
enntheta 2 years ago
Like everything else, you people only look at the "now" perspective. That view is what got us in trouble with the economy and a whole host of other things. It isn't about now. It is about the future. When you start screwing with something that acts as a building block for this country of ours by showing we accept all comers into an elite institution (no perversions is too sick!) then our kids will never value it or take it seriously because we didn't.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago
Hard to be emotionally worked up over someone who sort of set themselves for the situation as bad as it was. I looked at this way as well: one less democrat to deal with as well. And considering his background, probably one less welfare recipient. Sorry to be callous, but resources are resources.
TaipanofShangMagan 2 years ago