Amazingly stupid to remove the swarf with your fingers... even with the machine not turning you will not want to do that because you may cut yourself. With the machine turning it is a matter of time before something really bad happens.
I really like the video and what you are doing, I just wanted to point out the danger. Alu is a bit less criticall possibly. I have mainly worked with austenitic steel and other materials that produce razorsharp long swarf. I have experienced them cutting even through thick leather gloves with ease. Of course I did not wear the gloves when turning - i need my fingers too. thanks for the great Video
I have had quite some training on machinery as well during my education as well as some of my summer jobs. I know there are a loot of swarf-hooks around, that are more dangerous than some swarf, especially, if someone did not mount a proper handle, but rather bent the hook, so you can grip through it - that can cost you an Arm if you are unlucky. but I have also seen a number of quiteexperienced machinists cutting their fingers on swarf - even when the machine was not turning.
My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
i also am a conentional machinist and offer my services to the public, i have been abbsesed with machines since i was little, i had to know every trick in the trade, now i love creating artwork and designs and its time to show the world....
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Well, my father's grandfather's father was a machinist and he came from a family of ship builders. My own father was a machinist too, he worked on military aircraft during the 2nd world war. I (as you can see) am also a machinist! The problem is this, my son who is around thirty now, decided to be a landscaper rather than be a machinist like his pop, has left ME, to be the last machinist!
Nice vid. Kind of relaxing to watch. I found it interesting that you choose to tilt the head on your mill rather than place the small square tube on angle blocks. Personally, I would rather spend the time doing a repeatable setup with angle blocks or a sine bar than spend the time re-tramming the head LOL. But that is one of the things I love about manual toolroom work -- ask 10 machinists of this type how to do a job and you will get 10 different answers and none of them will be "wrong."
Thanks for taking time out of your life to watch my video. By setting the milling head at the 30 deg. angle, I was able to use the top edge of the vise to align each piece of 1/2" sq. S.S. tubing while end-stopping the piece without support from a floating jig that would require resetting each time that I performed the same operation.
Your most thoughtful observation was that you have a good attitude about there being many ways to successfully get the job done. thanks again...
I managed a machineshop in Jeddah Saudi Arabia for a time . I am an American and most of our machinists were jobbing machinists from the Philipines not only because they worked for less money they were old school and could think on their feet and get the job done . Todays group want CNC (Great for manufacturing) out of shear laziness . I did not mind the chip removal by hand ,if you did that with gloves on I would. Music was good on your presentation .
glad to be part of a dying art and a tradition of american excellence I received an associates degree in tool&die and moldmaking I personally enjoy using cnc machines but respect and find that manuals are almost always faster for small numbers of parts.... Good video and nothing but respect for the speed and experience you exhibit.
Thank you for taking the time to watch this video, I too have had experience with cnc machining but it was part of the woodworking industry on a cnc router. I began working with machinery back in 1962 when I was stationed aboard the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Forrestal. Although I've worked at many other trades, machining and welding were always my favorite and gave me the most satisfaction when arriving at a finished product.
@reggieobe98 I'm gonna guess you've never worked in a machine shop before? Almost every cnc program I work with will give me long stringies. Im gonna agree with eddie that its all about results. The shop doesnt care if you have a huge pile of long stringies just as long as the part is made right and efficiently
Nice birdsnest your making on the lathe. You remove it with your fingers while the machine is running? Show proper technique at least. Did you grind your own toolbit or is that a cheap preground brazed carbide?
I never court disaster and don't approach any machine with fear, I know and respect what a machine can do and never push the envelope. I love the stringy chips, they are like floss or eiderdown when you set the tool to cut in that way. As far as the toolbit is concerned, whats the difference whether it is preground or resharpened on my diamond wheel? It cuts, doesn't it? learn to be less hung-up on technique and more concerned with results, seeing is still believing!
Gee, I'm absolutely honored to see that you stuck around til' the end of this 13.5 min. video!
I'm not sure what you meant by "butcher-blending" but the last step in preparing these parts
(decorative detail pieces), for a stainless balcony railing, was to buff out the edges of the discs where the aluminum locking pins were hammered in. I have another video posted here: "The Railing", there you can see the use and installation of these parts as they were needed. Thanks 4 watching!
We've shipped much of our tooling and manufacturing to China and trained them how to use it. They now can build anything we have built just as good, not in all factories but in tens of thouands. They have a space program and full Navy. We fund them with every purchase. Corporate greed and the opiate like addictive appeal of inexpensive products will be the downfall of this country.
Thing is here as the jobs using these machines leave the country that makes avalable the machines themselves. Auctions are a great place to get machines that 10-20 years ago they could only dream about. What really is bad is finding people that still do machining that can be afforded. About all that's left is the huge machine shops and a lot of them can't be bothered with cutting a keyslot in your 3/4" steel shaft :P
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The Chinese can do this so much cheaper. I am surprised you are still in business because this trade has been shipped overseas by the Globalist because they invested in China. Not that many Tool & Die Makers in the United States anymore, what happens when there is a Real War and the Military needs parts made? National Security Threat, yeah....it's one they Ignore
Man and machines in harmonic motion. Yes, it's old school manufacturing, but great to observe. have you ever been to a trade show and seen a crowd engrossed for 10 minutes by the activities of a cnc machine? No, nor me.
There is no safe way to clear chips while the lathe is still running, in this situation. I have on occasion had to do the same when the cutting tool geometry was not quite where it should be to produce an acceptable chip break. Having had my knuckles 'checked' by chuck jaws I'm a little more wary these days. I did however like your assembly jig, it was very clever. In fact the only thing I did not like was the, perhaps unintentional, pretentious inference from the title, "The 'last' machinist"
Wholy fuckin' shit!!!! You turned some round things, then drilled some angle holes, and put the whole pile of shit togather with some more shit onto a shaft.
A++++ Skippy!!!!!
Hooo, Raaaaa.
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Yo, newbee,
not even one month on youtube and already you've decided to be a common, fucking, troll! Anyone can be a troll, you have any other qualities? I'm not seeing too many of your videos posted but I'll keep in touch with you by dropping in on you from time to time.
nice vid! i think the art of manual maching is becoming more of a hobby than a trade now and i hate it i had much rather use manual machines and at one time owned my own shop but now it seems to be all cnc and production and that i hate to but i guess a man has to do what he has to do. im an cnc machinist by trade but a manual machinist by heart ha ha. i really enjoyed the vid tho!
Great video...I enjoyed the craftmanship. Although I cringed when you removed the chips with your fingers, it's no different than the carpenter that cuts a 2x while balanced on his foot, the carver that cuts towards himself or the iron worker who doesn't clip off while on a beam. It's all a matter of experience.
At last, someone who understands! I'd say that almost 50% of the comments
here are directed at chiding me for removing the chips from the cutter or for
working around a moving spindle, chuck, mill or saw but like you pointed out, it's all because of my working experience, I am not a fool nor a masochist and feel
secure with whatever risk I may appear to take. Anyway, thank you for viewing and commenting on the video. I like the family aspect of your theme! Good luck to you all
The music? It is "chamber music" that came from youtube's vast library of available music for those who upload audio tracks which are protected by copyright law which violate youtube terms of service.
My original upload of this video contained an audio track which had no less than 4 different selections of music within the 13-1/2 minute course of the audio track. I chose this audio from youtubes offerings and I believe that it is the 1812 overture.
I didn't want to be unpolite. English is not my mother tongue.
Anyway, I enjoyed your video and have seen it more than once.
I just have seen many ugly accidents happend with machines, nice to hear nothing happend to you during your 30 years...........
Go on an upload some more videos, I will watch them. I like self made machined parts. Unfortunately they are only one or two minutes long. 13 min or more is okay.............
So, Human, I'll retract my sarcasm and accede to the fact that you are correct in your original assessment, that chips should NEVER be removed by the human hand. I've just become a little bit bitter because I am no longer able to find work as a manual machinist and being unemployed here in New York has not done very much for my attitude and often I can only find pleasure in spending my days here on the internet. Yes, personal safety is ALWAYS an important part of any job.
I didn't want to be unpolite. English is not my mother tongue, so I think crazy guy would have been the more suitable statement. Anyway, I enjoyed your video and
have seen it more than once.
I just have seen many ugly accidents happend with machines, nice to hear nothing happend to you during your 30 years...........
Sorry to disappoint you son but I'm retired now and after 30 years of machining, still have all ten fingers, never even had a stitch! i am to machinery what Tony Hawke is to skateboards. Thank you for being my 79,049th viewer, I truly appreciate the hit!
No dude, my work is finished but I want to wish you luck at even finding a job but because you've shown some real talent here on this thread, I'll bet you would make an outstanding video critic. Keep checking the want ads, will you?
@LongIslandEddie dont sweat it eddie, human is just a little bit intimadated by machinery, excellent vid! I rebuild machines and house one of north americas largest slydway grinders. I can stroke 26' within .0001".
Great machine that you have there, 26" and holding .0001 tolerance is pretty commendable! I absolutely LOVE restoring and rebuilding old machinery, it's every bit as much an art as is manual machining where the human hand and mind bring out the best aspect of the profession rather than surrender these qualities to a computer logic chip. My deepest sorrow is that machining (in general), "ain't what it used to be", but for that matter, what else in this changing world is? Thank you...
These pieces are component parts of a very special and exclusive balcony railing and staircase ballusters. If you are interested, watch the video "The Railing", found on the front page of my channel. Thanks for suffering through this video.
I would suggest that anyone who does not have a lot of shop experience NOT remove swarf with machine running and bare hands. And removing chips near a spinning endmill makes me nervous! Drill bits, OK - but mills are bleedin' sharp. Thanks for posting this video, it's interesting watching this project.
@Volvo745T Its just dumb to do it with a drill also. using a large horizontal drill press with a large diameter drill can produce a chip that will slice your wrist with a quickness if your feeding it fast
Actually, youtube made me edit the original post of this video because it had a copyright issue with my sound track and I had to choose a selection from their stock list of sound tracks available that are copyright- free. Because the video is so long (13 mins.+), I really didn't have much of a choice so I selected this classical composition. I'm glad that something about the video, made you happy.
@LongIslandEddie The 1812 overture. Good choice my friend! Should have use the Tchaikovsky version though! It's the only piece of classical music (to my knowledge) that uses live cannons as a musical instrument :-D
@gbowne1 No problem using your fingers to remove thin aluminium and magnesium chips, stainless steel on the other hand... I've had a couple of nasty cuts attempting that.
I have worked in the food processing equipment field for years, therefore,
I give Stainless Steel every bit of respect that it deserves, it is the greatest metal that I have ever worked with. I never get careless when stainless is in the picture.
Doll house staircase? No, you misunderstood the video, it is a full size railing and stairway. It is made of stainless steel with brass and aluminum detailing. You need to see my other video "the Railing" if you need to be convinced of it's full size.
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it is amazing to me. how many experts there are out there in the world. and yet none of them have actually done any metal working hahahaha. keep posting eddy. great videos. i was just reading some of the comments.
While the controversy rages on about something as ignorant as which hammer to use, something else drew my attention. Why would anyone grab chips or wire with your bare hands, much less with the machine on. That is what a chip hook is for.
My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
@LongIslandEddie I am a machinist, also. I'm just saying that I don't do it. I HAVE been cut doing the same thing you did, the last time it was the tip of my finger in the chip pan that taught me a lesson. Even with the machine off, I still use pliers or a hook. Unless it is the finish pass, I usually don't mess with the chips or wire anyway because I try to feed fast enough to curl a chip.
the reason he used a claw hammer is because it was probably closest to him. There is no danger in using a ball peen hammer to strike an aluminum pin, Its aluminum. There may be a slightly different hardness in the hammers, but they are made to hit metal also so they are probably hardened to a 40 something rockwell, for wear resistance only.
Actually, as far as understanding the whole issue of which hammer I "should" be using, you are the most correct responder thus far.
I used a claw hammer because it was the closest hammer on the workbench at the time. Even if I had a ball-peen hammer there on the bench, I certainly wouldn't have used it anyway, the ball-edge would've been no good for my application and by using a lighter weight hammer, it would've required more applied force, a wider swing and a reduced striking area.
You'd need to watch the third video to the right among the three responses shown above. The parts are component parts in an ornamental balcony railing.
Perhaps it was unfair of me, not to answer your question, by showing within this video, the end result, the railing.
In this case, the product was a one-of-a-kind creation, a custom railing for a man who had both the desire and the money to make it happen for himself. I know that I enjoyed the chance to create his dream, it is for forever!
The design of a hammer has much to do with the application of the hammer as it is used to accomplish a given task, a heavy hammer for heavy work, a tack hammer for tacks, etc. Of ten, we become purists, defining specific applications to a point where we have lost sight of the big picture, that a hammer is a hammer, nothing more, nothing less. I would never want to constrain myself by sticking to established practices, I'm just not thinking from the other guys box, just getting it done.
Without the benefit of self-centering the material being turned (as is done with a 3 jawed chuck), centering the workpiece would be pretty tough and unless you are trying to turn an eccentric piece such as a camshaft where you'd need a 4 jaw chuck its the perfect chuck for keeping the piece concentric.
But, why would ANYONE not like a 3 jawed chuck? Let me know, OK?
I'm a 3 jaw chuck lover myself and I want to thank you for siding with me on that issue!
As for the claw hammer, I would've known better than to use a claw hammer if I had ever met anyone, over the last 48 years, who could give me one serious and valid reason not to. I would never have used the domed (rounded) end of a ball-peen hammer to lock those 1/8" aluminum pins into the disks, I'd have used the flat end if I had used one. My claw hammer is 16oz., the flat face is 1" in diameter .
But, because I'm always willing to learn something new and am not ashamed to say that I don't have all of the answers, maybe you would be kind enough to give me the reason why I should know better.
Anyway, at least by your curious question, I believe that you watched the entire 13-1/2 minutes of the video and I thank you for that, you were the 67,796th viewer and I sincerely hope that you enjoyed it.
I really would like to hear your followup on the hammer protocol.
Okay well since you're not a dummy there probably isn't a huge risk but since solid hammers (non dead-blow type) do have bounce-back to them, there is a hypothetical risk of the hammer bouncing off of your metal work piece and the claw hitting you in the face. Honestly it is probably just my shop teacher's words haunting me. Carry on with what works for you. I'm a nerd.
Your shop teacher's words haunting you? Well, right or wrong on this issue really doesn't matter. The qualifying of yourself is in the fact that you listened to your shop teacher. Whether his logic holds true or not, you retained his words and that says a whole lot about you. Good for you zap!
I'm off on a netsearch to understand why your shop teacher believed it himself. My teacher taught me the law of inertia, for every action theres a like and similar reaction. Dead-blow?
I'm a 3 jaw chuck lover myself and I want to thank you for siding with me on that issue!
As for the claw hammer, I would've known better than to use a claw hammer if I had ever met anyone, over the last 48 years, who could give me one serious and valid reason not to. I would never have used the domed (rounded) end of a ball-peen hammer to lock those 1/8" aluminum pins into the disks, I'd have used the flat end if I had used one. My claw hammer is 16oz., the flat face is 1" in diameter .
I repair and fabricate electrical motor parts and pretty much exclusively use a 4 jaw. We have to hit sizes (bearing journals and such) sometimes within
.0005 tolerance so a three jaw is just not accurate enough. But I didn't mean to cause a stir, haha, I don't really hate 3 jaw, I think in and around the time I posted that comment I had just had a hell of a time re-setting one of our 3 jaw chucks that became misaligned. But they definitely have their place as they're convenient and fast setup
The skills required to seat and align turning or boring work into a 4 jaw chuck outweighs by far, the mechanic who just pops a part into a 3 jaw chuck and machines to a 3 decimal tolerance. You are a tradesman who has learned the difference between the merits of one method over another, one way to do the job over another way. I respect your knowledge because I believe that you know what you are talking about and that is good.
@LongIslandEddie - Apparently there's self-centering 4 jaw chucks ... but I have a 3 jaw at work - the 4 jaw is a big pain in the apples to center. But I probably don't know how to properly use.
@LongIslandEddie AMEN!! or if you are wanting to bore a hole that isnt concentric with the o.d WOW!!! where are these so called machinists from.. they need to go back to lathe 101 school
There's a generation of "so called" machinists who would only know what a lathe was if they got to a museum who had one in their old relic department.
@LongIslandEddie ...so true..so true..so sad. lathe is probably my favorite of machining machines.. leblond is a nice brand.... love the way one changes gears so smooth..... I cant decide what I like better.. ...machining to classical music or heavy metal..lol
In an age where most things are capable of being replicated by highly automated machine systems like the FANUC arms, its nice to see machinists such as yourself. There is a strange beauty and elegance to be had in seeing a perfectly-machined piece of metal produced in the hands of an expert, and elegance to be found in technique honed only through years of experience, where no motion is wasted. It's always inspiring to see a master ply their trade, and you are no exception. I hail you!
Gee, that's a pretty awesome way to put it! So many observers continue to tout the wonder of CNC machining and seem to do this with an aire of contempt for those like myself who go about making parts by hand, manually. There is no doubt that automated machinery has a valid place in the manufacturing process but still, there are those like myself who will find it necessary to educate those who were not born into the world of manual machining and to let them see how it was once done.
Hey Long Island Eddie, I have the slightest idea what the heck you made, but while looking for mini metal lathe tips, I came across your post. I compliment you to the highest regard on the music in your post. It kicks ass !! I would watch again just to hear the music !!
The music? It is "chamber music" that came from youtube's vast library of available music for those who upload audio tracks which are protected by copyright law which violate youtube terms of service.
My original upload of this video contained an audio track which had no less than 4 different selections of music within the 13-1/2 minute course of the audio track. I chose this audio from youtubes offerings and I believe that it is the 1812 overture.
clearly he knows whats hes doing, but really, thats cutting it pretty close, I've been in the trade for 14 years, I still have all my digits, being careful, but I've had my share of nasty cuts.....
I've had some cuts too but none so annoying as those gotten while working as a sheetmetal mechanic working with galvanized and cold rolled sheet stock.
As a lifelong welder, my fingers have lost much of their sensitivity and my hands are calloused allowing me to momentarily, handle "hot" metal and also to avoid the pain or damage from those bothersome superficial cuts or slices.
Thanks for viewing the video and for the seeming vote of confidence in my ability to perform tradesman's work.
I really enjoyed watching this, and the railing it was for looks great! I'm just starting out in school learning the machining trade, plan to get my mechanical eng. degree after I finish the program I'm currently in. I have complete faith that things will turn around, may take a bit... but it will. So long as its not stifled *cough-obama-and-cohorts-cough* American ingenuity will come out on top.
Thanks for the video, I always enjoy seeing others work.
I too, have faith that change will come. If Obama is to change any aspect of the economy, he needs to concentrate on restoring our manufacturing industry so that there are jobs for tomorrows people. without a job, a man cannot live or feed a family nor own a home, even an apartment. it's unfair to put blame upon Obama for the economic situation that we are now in, it was not his doing. I'm glad to see that you have put faith in American ingenuity though, we are the best people in the world.
I agree that it is not his fault that we are in the situation that we are in, however I do believe he is taking us in the same direction that the last administration did economically... only at a much faster rate. Putting our country further into debt is not the answer to our problem, in fact it will only exacerbate it, as well as bring on a host of other problems. Nothing will improve until our manufacturing industry does, just as you said. That can not happen if it is government controlled..
as with GM. Mark my words, so long as the gov. keeps their hooks in GM they WILL fail. When the gov. regulates and stifles private industry, picking and choosing who they will bail out and who they will allow to fail, true success can never be achieved, and potential will always be limited. That is the biggest problem I have with this admin. They need to allow things to run their course and keep their meat hooks out of private industry. Let GM fail, along with the UAW that caused them to.
The political/social tide that has swamped us is as old as our history and blame cannot be placed against any particular entity. I hail from those days when we were flooded with television commercials for the UAW and the ILGW, every emphasis on the unions and their importance. I grew up with Jimmy Hoffa and Walter Reuther and even understand people like Samuel Gompers but today's politicians have sold the farm, fucked and fleeced us. Smart people saw it coming and warned us.
Sherekhan69 ..to criticize Mr. LongIsland like you did shows the world your missing a fundamental element of logic in your capacity to think and reason. You are defefinatly not normal and would probley fit well amongst the serial killer profiles. The only reason your unemployed is that the world hasn't figuired out yet just how smart you really are! Make sure your show these comment to your next HR rep. you interview with.
Thank you for setting that guy straight, it was certainly apparent that he was on a troll mission and was grandstanding with all of his beat anologies. I'm convinced that there will always be someone out here who derives their best pleasure in putting others down. As for my own unemployment, this nasty economic downturn has pretty well affected every aspect of American manufacturing and we can only thank our political leaders who've voted for supporting the Chinese over US.
Whether those trades like ours are disappearing quickly or slowly, really doesn't matter when the end result is that they are gone and the only measure of confidence is in the fact that things won't be turning around very soon. America has seen it's heyday, the dream is over. Thanks for stopping by and I enjoyed seeing your work, shown here on youtube.
And, I'm thrilled! I wasn't out to "showboat", or blow my own horn or to even solicit praise from my audience, I posted the video because I was proud of my product. Sure, I breached the standard safety practice barrier but sometimes, the end result takes precedence over things you did to get there. I'm just a guy who likes to take raw material and make, finished, functional product. As for being the "last" machinist? That was explaned by me (below), over a year ago. Doubters, research it!
@antboy824 I don't know if I would say cnc is too easy. I agree they are getting easier all the time, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. The point of cnc is increased production. I run both cnc and manual (as does Eddie if you read through the rest of his stuff) and I prefer manual work, but cnc has it's place. It allows you to do things you just couldn't do on a manual machine,(timewise) and to be a good cnc machinist you still need to be a good machinist.
Why not be impressed? What do you find to be unimpressive about this video? Where are your videos? Oh, you have none but I've seen your last few comments to others and they don't impress me either, especially the one where you are asking someone for a blowjob.
You are mad because you realized your years of learning could be accomplished faster and safer by a 3rd week apprentice. Tool selection is inadequate. F+S Inadequate. Accuracy inadequate. Using basic skills, would have eliminated the need for the silly fixture. Your mechanical aptitude rivals that of a 5 year old. Touching a rotating tool is NOT cool. I have no vid cam, but I have machine skills. With your video skills you could make more money by investing in your own web page and a donkey.
How sad, you seem focused upon your qualifications, your superiority, your need to denegrate me in a basis of your accomplishments. How can you go from one video to the next, speaking about oral sex, then coming here to let us all know how much you know about feed rate, spindle speed and your skill level at everything from a verbal assault to creating a fixture, a simple jig?
Perhaps you are right, I might need a Donkey. Are you busy this week?
Superiority? Funny. I don't refer to myself as "The last Machinist" as if I am some sort of superhero. In fact, I am not even a machinist, LOL. But, I watched face off an aluminum slug in 2-1/2 minutes with the wrong tool, set up wrong. It is a 10 second job. Your other processes are just as faulty. As others stated, you have very unsafe practices. Eventually it will catch up to you. Not impressive. Yes, I am busy this week. I have a job as a Manufacturing Process Engineer.
Lay off, he's clearly a mature fella and still has all his fingers, a sure sign that he has ability, a poor machinist normally loses a digit or two pretty quick. Personally I enjoyed the vid and If you feel you can exceed this then please post some examples, I'd probably enjoy them too
Gee guy, thanks! What you say in one respect is usually true, a cocky, know-it-all machinist does often bear the marks of his carelessness, often they wave their hand in my face and tell me how great they are even though they're waving only three fingers on the hand! Don't count on finding any naysayers found here, posting their work, most who come here to tell me how fucked up I am, don't have any videos to post. Thanks for your comment and for stopping by at my channel!
Wow, for an unemployed guy with all the safety acumen of Helen Keller in a dark room full of idling helicopters and circus knife throwers, you are one of the most egotistical and pompous idjits I've had the displeasure of listening to. Hope you were wise enough to stash away enough money to buy a slew of pens for which you can sign your unemployment checks with.
Actually, I was wise enough to have a signature rubber stamp made, only moments after I started receiving those State Unemployment checks!
Thank you for visiting my video, I appreciate your humor greatly, even your screen name although I really haven't come to understand exactly why, one would care to take a name, from a Sabu the Jungle Boy movie, popular back in the early fifties.
Thank god they're develloping stemcell reasearch. If you loose one or two changing parts like that meybe they can grow you a new one. Seriously, it takes just as long to stop and start a machine, as it does to be so "extra careful" around a running machine. A little more rad on your tool combined with a litle more feed will still give your mirror finish on the aluminum pices, then you don't have to deal with those chips that you say you like so much. Your finish will be even better, no scratches
It's a shame to see a good machinist's skills not being put to use. Why don't you come up here to western Canada. We can't get enough skilled tradesmen up here. Some of the companies in Saskatchewan and Alberta may even pay moving expenses. We just hired half a dozen "machinists" from Eastern Europe, and these guys wouldn't know a lathe from a coffee maker. I'd dress warm, though.
Know know, I been a machinist for 40 years. Still got 10 fingers and 10 toes and 2 eyes with no damage. My big question is why in gods name take a chance with your money makers by changing parts with the spindle is still turning ??? Theres no need to take this chance STOP THAT SPINDLE ON THE MILL ON EVERY PART ! You will thank me on every pay day ! One of the very first things a good machinist does is take every chance to save his fingers !
My pay days are gone, I'm unemployed but all of my fingers, toes and both eyes are still here and now I'm so glad to find that they are serving me well after the many, many risky chances that I've taken.
Without my fingers, I wouldn't be able to sign my unemployment check, without my eyes, I couldn't send out my resume, here on the internet.
One thing that I'm thankful for is YOU! Thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving a comment.
Well the trick is to not have stringy chips to begin with; grind a chipbreaker yourself in that C5 toolbit, or use a nice uncoated carbide insert with a high rake and tight chipbreaker- even that 6061 will break up well if treated right. And yes, I agree...if anyone has been a real machinist, you know what it feels like to have a blue chip singe into your skin, or a nasty cut from time to time.
I used to think that a red-hot chip on my cheek was the worst. Then, I got a white hot MIG pill (welding) which landed in my ear! That's pain!
I never court disaster and don't approach any machine with fear, I know and respect what a machine can do and never push the envelope. I love the stringy chips, they are like floss or eiderdown when you set the tool to cut in that way.
Thanks for checking in on me and I can tell that you have been on the shop floor for awhile.
I wanted a special microfinish on these aluminum discs, they were decorative and part of an art-deco railing.
Sure, I could've "chunked" out material and perhaps sped-up the facing operation but because I was only removing .015 from the first side being faced (so that I could now have a true, flat surface), for taking the last cut on the opposite side. The finished discs were refractory, they gave off a glint and worked with added visual enhancement.
on your skin isnt bad but get one in your eye you got a problem and any machinist knows wearing goggles gets annoying but I have seen a chip go in someones eye that will make you never forget to weera goggles. I hate the little paperlike cuts I have on my hands all the time. I rush too much so I am careless with the burrs but I have never had aserious cut or anything knock on wood or brass.
I'm an eyeglass wearer and as a machinist, I have real glass as the lenses in them. I have had the plastic (polycarbon) lenses but hot metal chips coming off of the Bridgeport or the lathe used to stick in or leave little burns on them so I started using the glass prescription lenses and things got better.
Lose my fingers? Are you crazy? My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
The piece(s) that I made were for a custom railing. You'd need to look at my other video ("The railing") to see how the pieces were used to complete the finished railing and stairway balusters.
Thank you for viewing the video, I had a great time making the component parts.
Since there are no set standards for security bars, I encourage you to "do it up". As long as you have to look out the windows, you might as well enjoy the view.
You would be smart to build a jig that will allow you to assemble and weld the pieces so that if the design is not symmetrical, you can "flop" the finished panel so as to have a mirror image on other windows which are exposed to a viewing public. You can work with 3/4" sq. x 16 ga. steel tubing, it welds nicely with a MIG. Thanks.
Exactly! Book matching is a common practice in the cabinet shop but that is what I did when assembling the railing that I made. One advantage that I had was the use of the TIG welder rather than the MIG, because I was working with stainless steel, it was possible to fuse weld the njoints and use very little filler rod, the joints really had no noticible bead. If you are working with hot-rolled tubing, I suggest that you use silicon-bronze rod, it can almost be used like solder, it flows great.
That's how I want to do things...mostly TIG, but have MIG for the mass production stuff. It's the real itricate stuff I need TIG for..."high precision" welding...
The jig is the ticket...I want to get a road plate 8'X14'X1/2" T-1 to set up my jigs on.
Put her on 4"X4" box tubing & heavy duty rollers so I can move it when I gotta clean up my shop. I've seen TIG used to braze...I gotta check that out too.
Wow! An 8 ft. x 14ft. table is really, really big! Do you honestly think that you need a bench that large? If you can score a road plate, you could always cut it down to a 4' x 8' plate because even on HD casters, that baby is going to weigh alot!
Using silbronze rod is just like brazing, the rod flows like butter, no ripples whatsoever and needs a relatively low heat from the TIG. I use alot of 3/32" rod and whether using the HF or not, the weld is almost cosmetic, you'll love it!
It'll be my jig table for the bigger stuff. There's a lot of small cattle ranches who buy corral panels & ranch gates...plus I'll be doing other large things. I'm going to do a small bench w/ 3/8"X36"X70" for the real precision stuff (fine detail work). The big table I can move in & out with my truck.
Nice one Eddie you work like I do and many other Pro. tool makers, machinists,mechanics, the health and safety guys would do back flips if they saw some the Heath Robinson set ups I ve rigged up to get the job done over the last 40 odd years. This country [UK] is fast becoming a nanny state where only men like us dont work to book and think outside the box and get on with it
I say (like you do), any way that works and gets the job done is good! Some of the prouder moments of a job are the creative setups and tooling that you use in getting the job done, fast and once!
I fancy myself as much a "blacksmith" as any other title, I love taking raw material from the blank to the bank! America is less a nanny state than a wasteland for the manual mechanic who creates the design, draws the blueprint, sets the tolerances, makes the parts and does it all!
I work closely with a top machine shop in the UK, making F1 car parts and a lot of the stuff they do is still done on manual machines. They do complex five axis parts on the CNC machines and usualy do all the drilling and hole tapping manualy. They make nearly everything from titanium to 0.003mm (3 microns) tolerance, and still keep this tollerance with the manual machines.
I'll always have a place in my heart for manual machining, it has it's place in manufacturing and without it, we might've never slicked it up to become the CNC world that now dictates all volume machining for production parts these days.
The CNC machines are fantastic but you go thru a horror story if you just need one piece, a prototype piece which is sort of design-engineered, on the fly while the mechanic fits the part up and tweaks it into perfection. Thanks for watching!
I think the real danger is that some very unknowing kid or just a very inexperienced person might see this and hurt themselves. Someone doing this for over 40 years knows the danger and has seen it first hand. Kids now a days if they even were intrested in such as this would have no earthly idea how powerful this machine really is and would just stick their hand any ole where. Thanks for posting the video I am comtemplating the purchase of a small lathe.
The chances that "some inexperienced kid" is going to even get next to a lathe is pretty slim and if they have learned even how to turn it on, operate the carriage feed, the cross feed, the RPM's, the tool post and everything else connected with operating a lathe, I'm pretty confident that they won't need to refer to this video and my example for further direction. The world is full of moving things but I don't think that they present temptation to those who see the motion. Thanks for watching..
Also, Cryrocker, I hope that you decide to get that small lathe, they can be alot of fun and you can entertain yourself for many hours. If you do get the lathe, DON"T follow my example! NEVER pick off the swarf (chips) with your hand. When you've gotten yourself a complete mastery over the equipment, then (and only then) may you fuck around like you see me doing here. Otherwise, protect your eyes and your hands at all times!
I don't want to take an old hand to task about safety, but it made me cringe watching you reach into a running machine to clear chips by hand! I have a hook for just that purpose... it doesn't feel cuts and if it gets smashed oh well!
I began machining over 45 years ago and have done a lot of machining since then and still have ten fingers and ten toes! Thanks for the tip but until this economy turns around, I'm not doing anymore machining and my fingers are safely wrapped around my mouse for now.
doesnt matter how much expirence you have, its still an incredibly stupid thing to do. go and take you chances, but dont go and make it seem like its ok to do.
I never endorsed nor intimated that it was o.k. to follow my example thru this video. Cris Angel recently buried himself (while handcuffed), below 6 feet of snow, in a coffin, for 30 minutes. He also stood and had a Cadillac Escalade hit him head-on at 30 MPH. I do what I do because I am secure in the knowledge that nothing will happen to me just as Cris Angel knows his own limitations. I don't subscribe to the "monkey see, monkey do" philosophy that you seem to believe in.
What the heck did you make? Even if its just an object you made for fun it was cool seeing it made. Good job that kind of work takes a lot of patience and skill. Glad to see someone who still knows how to do this stuff.
Thank you! If you are curious about the work that I was performing, you can appease your curiousity by clicking the second video response just below this video. Yes, the object that I was making was fun but it was only part of a greater project which you may care to see. Knowing how to do "this stuff" is only half of the battle, having a place to do it or a purpose for your skills is the biggest part of the picture. I'm still in my home on state unemployment. Welcome to America...
Companys need to have more apprentice positions to learn from the Best, the old foxes.
They have worked for over 40years and knowledge will be lost if we don't listen to them.
tenkikun 3 months ago
Amazingly stupid to remove the swarf with your fingers... even with the machine not turning you will not want to do that because you may cut yourself. With the machine turning it is a matter of time before something really bad happens.
bigbattenberg 5 months ago
What's the compressed air comment all about? I don't remember asking about compressed air, do you?
LongIslandEddie 6 months ago
a.. nice video
Adolf0580 7 months ago
Hi I am German , but in Germany we take our Hands not on the driving "Drehfutter"
keep care or something
Adolf0580 7 months ago
I really like the video and what you are doing, I just wanted to point out the danger. Alu is a bit less criticall possibly. I have mainly worked with austenitic steel and other materials that produce razorsharp long swarf. I have experienced them cutting even through thick leather gloves with ease. Of course I did not wear the gloves when turning - i need my fingers too. thanks for the great Video
hildebrandt1977 8 months ago
I have had quite some training on machinery as well during my education as well as some of my summer jobs. I know there are a loot of swarf-hooks around, that are more dangerous than some swarf, especially, if someone did not mount a proper handle, but rather bent the hook, so you can grip through it - that can cost you an Arm if you are unlucky. but I have also seen a number of quiteexperienced machinists cutting their fingers on swarf - even when the machine was not turning.
hildebrandt1977 8 months ago
For Gods sake use a hook to remove the swarfs, not your bare hands. especially when using a lathe
hildebrandt1977 8 months ago
@hildebrandt1977
My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
But, I thank you for viewing
LongIslandEddie 8 months ago
@LongIslandEddie that why we have compressed air
TheUncleBastard 6 months ago
i also am a conentional machinist and offer my services to the public, i have been abbsesed with machines since i was little, i had to know every trick in the trade, now i love creating artwork and designs and its time to show the world....
Check out my website if you have time... hotcollectibles.ca
Rapidparts 8 months ago
why do you call yourself "the last machinist"?
AunShovah 8 months ago
@AunShovah
Why the last ???
Well, my father's grandfather's father was a machinist and he came from a family of ship builders. My own father was a machinist too, he worked on military aircraft during the 2nd world war. I (as you can see) am also a machinist! The problem is this, my son who is around thirty now, decided to be a landscaper rather than be a machinist like his pop, has left ME, to be the last machinist!
Maybe my grandson will be a machinist, who knows?
LongIslandEddie 8 months ago
Nice vid. Kind of relaxing to watch. I found it interesting that you choose to tilt the head on your mill rather than place the small square tube on angle blocks. Personally, I would rather spend the time doing a repeatable setup with angle blocks or a sine bar than spend the time re-tramming the head LOL. But that is one of the things I love about manual toolroom work -- ask 10 machinists of this type how to do a job and you will get 10 different answers and none of them will be "wrong."
MVFRNinja 8 months ago
@MVFRNinja
Thanks for taking time out of your life to watch my video. By setting the milling head at the 30 deg. angle, I was able to use the top edge of the vise to align each piece of 1/2" sq. S.S. tubing while end-stopping the piece without support from a floating jig that would require resetting each time that I performed the same operation.
Your most thoughtful observation was that you have a good attitude about there being many ways to successfully get the job done. thanks again...
LongIslandEddie 8 months ago
I managed a machineshop in Jeddah Saudi Arabia for a time . I am an American and most of our machinists were jobbing machinists from the Philipines not only because they worked for less money they were old school and could think on their feet and get the job done . Todays group want CNC (Great for manufacturing) out of shear laziness . I did not mind the chip removal by hand ,if you did that with gloves on I would. Music was good on your presentation .
jeffrey19621 8 months ago
glad to be part of a dying art and a tradition of american excellence I received an associates degree in tool&die and moldmaking I personally enjoy using cnc machines but respect and find that manuals are almost always faster for small numbers of parts.... Good video and nothing but respect for the speed and experience you exhibit.
Mustangdude20 9 months ago
@Mustangdude20
Thank you for taking the time to watch this video, I too have had experience with cnc machining but it was part of the woodworking industry on a cnc router. I began working with machinery back in 1962 when I was stationed aboard the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Forrestal. Although I've worked at many other trades, machining and welding were always my favorite and gave me the most satisfaction when arriving at a finished product.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment...
LongIslandEddie 9 months ago
@reggieobe98 I'm gonna guess you've never worked in a machine shop before? Almost every cnc program I work with will give me long stringies. Im gonna agree with eddie that its all about results. The shop doesnt care if you have a huge pile of long stringies just as long as the part is made right and efficiently
NewTaco522 9 months ago
Nice birdsnest your making on the lathe. You remove it with your fingers while the machine is running? Show proper technique at least. Did you grind your own toolbit or is that a cheap preground brazed carbide?
reggieobe98 10 months ago
@reggieobe98
I never court disaster and don't approach any machine with fear, I know and respect what a machine can do and never push the envelope. I love the stringy chips, they are like floss or eiderdown when you set the tool to cut in that way. As far as the toolbit is concerned, whats the difference whether it is preground or resharpened on my diamond wheel? It cuts, doesn't it? learn to be less hung-up on technique and more concerned with results, seeing is still believing!
LongIslandEddie 10 months ago
Gee I get on the puter to relax after a 55hour work weak and I think I'm back at work WTF.
There's plenty of manual machining left just not anything like what it was with the outsourcing and cnc.
So whats up with the butcher blending at the end , what don't own a single cut flat bastard file ?
Just bustin your chops a little ...so what exactly did you make ?
highgear88 10 months ago
@highgear88
Gee, I'm absolutely honored to see that you stuck around til' the end of this 13.5 min. video!
I'm not sure what you meant by "butcher-blending" but the last step in preparing these parts
(decorative detail pieces), for a stainless balcony railing, was to buff out the edges of the discs where the aluminum locking pins were hammered in. I have another video posted here: "The Railing", there you can see the use and installation of these parts as they were needed. Thanks 4 watching!
LongIslandEddie 10 months ago
We've shipped much of our tooling and manufacturing to China and trained them how to use it. They now can build anything we have built just as good, not in all factories but in tens of thouands. They have a space program and full Navy. We fund them with every purchase. Corporate greed and the opiate like addictive appeal of inexpensive products will be the downfall of this country.
planekrazee 10 months ago
hi eddie,
im studying machining for part of my training to become a marine engineer, i gotta say it beats the hell out of compution,
just one question,
WHAT WAS THAT PIECE YOU MADE?
sjohnsneddon 10 months ago
Thing is here as the jobs using these machines leave the country that makes avalable the machines themselves. Auctions are a great place to get machines that 10-20 years ago they could only dream about. What really is bad is finding people that still do machining that can be afforded. About all that's left is the huge machine shops and a lot of them can't be bothered with cutting a keyslot in your 3/4" steel shaft :P
jacktheripped 10 months ago
@ ROCKNTV1- Yes, an interesting observation! It's all just "loserville" to me and I'm fairly certain that there's life after facebook...
LongIslandEddie 10 months ago
Yes, an interesting observation! It's all just "loserville" to me and I'm fairly certain that there's life after facebook...
LongIslandEddie 10 months ago
HELLO FROM A LONG ISLAND NATIVE. PS, pay no attention to the children who lack common sense, imagination and math skills, like so many farmvilliag facebook using adults, whilst saying nothing of their math skills by evidence of the grossness of fastfood servers
ROCKNTV1 10 months ago
The Chinese can do this so much cheaper. I am surprised you are still in business because this trade has been shipped overseas by the Globalist because they invested in China. Not that many Tool & Die Makers in the United States anymore, what happens when there is a Real War and the Military needs parts made? National Security Threat, yeah....it's one they Ignore
rocksiphone 11 months ago
@rocksiphone -
I'm not in business anymore. Manual machining has become a lost art
and American manufacturers no longer use these manual machines.
It's called evolution, moving along, improving methodology and progress.
The Chinese are our economic enemies, sworn to overtake and enslave
our children to work for them.
Don't worry for America's military and our parts, they can (and will), take care
of themselves. There's a hell of a difference between quality parts and the junk
that China makes!
LongIslandEddie 11 months ago
Man and machines in harmonic motion. Yes, it's old school manufacturing, but great to observe. have you ever been to a trade show and seen a crowd engrossed for 10 minutes by the activities of a cnc machine? No, nor me.
coriander2 1 year ago
There is no safe way to clear chips while the lathe is still running, in this situation. I have on occasion had to do the same when the cutting tool geometry was not quite where it should be to produce an acceptable chip break. Having had my knuckles 'checked' by chuck jaws I'm a little more wary these days. I did however like your assembly jig, it was very clever. In fact the only thing I did not like was the, perhaps unintentional, pretentious inference from the title, "The 'last' machinist"
skooteroo 1 year ago
Thanks for showing the video Eddie, at last someone who uses tooling by feeling for whats happening.
I am a lot worse than you with swarf clearing though, i want the job done.
jhareng 1 year ago
1hyllek
Wholy fuckin' shit!!!! You turned some round things, then drilled some angle holes, and put the whole pile of shit togather with some more shit onto a shaft.
A++++ Skippy!!!!!
Hooo, Raaaaa.
_____________________
Yo, newbee,
not even one month on youtube and already you've decided to be a common, fucking, troll! Anyone can be a troll, you have any other qualities? I'm not seeing too many of your videos posted but I'll keep in touch with you by dropping in on you from time to time.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
I still stand awe of your work Eddie...I gonna share your vid with my brother Lyle,
I rave about it all the time...
Aloha,
Keone
HawaiianMachinist 1 year ago
Thank you for the wonderful video.
The craftsman is going fast.
And thank you for NOT playing that black rap CRAP as everybody else is.
Great Video, great machine.
hatelibs1 1 year ago
nice vid! i think the art of manual maching is becoming more of a hobby than a trade now and i hate it i had much rather use manual machines and at one time owned my own shop but now it seems to be all cnc and production and that i hate to but i guess a man has to do what he has to do. im an cnc machinist by trade but a manual machinist by heart ha ha. i really enjoyed the vid tho!
poorboykennels 1 year ago
great clip m8. I like your ingenuity. I use to make jigs for a machining center.
gorgeousdzastr 1 year ago
Great video...I enjoyed the craftmanship. Although I cringed when you removed the chips with your fingers, it's no different than the carpenter that cuts a 2x while balanced on his foot, the carver that cuts towards himself or the iron worker who doesn't clip off while on a beam. It's all a matter of experience.
TheRyanFamily1 1 year ago 4
@TheRyanFamily1
At last, someone who understands! I'd say that almost 50% of the comments
here are directed at chiding me for removing the chips from the cutter or for
working around a moving spindle, chuck, mill or saw but like you pointed out, it's all because of my working experience, I am not a fool nor a masochist and feel
secure with whatever risk I may appear to take. Anyway, thank you for viewing and commenting on the video. I like the family aspect of your theme! Good luck to you all
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Hey whats the music at the Start of the Video?
Kochleffel1 1 year ago
@Kochleffel1
The music? It is "chamber music" that came from youtube's vast library of available music for those who upload audio tracks which are protected by copyright law which violate youtube terms of service.
My original upload of this video contained an audio track which had no less than 4 different selections of music within the 13-1/2 minute course of the audio track. I chose this audio from youtubes offerings and I believe that it is the 1812 overture.
Thanks for watching...
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie It is indeed the 1812 overture.
localcrew 1 year ago
@Kochleffel1 it's the opening of tchaikowski's '1812 overture'.
timpani25 1 year ago
@Kochleffel1 it's the '1812 overture', by tchaikowski.
timpani25 1 year ago
Dear LongIslandEddie
I didn't want to be unpolite. English is not my mother tongue.
Anyway, I enjoyed your video and have seen it more than once.
I just have seen many ugly accidents happend with machines, nice to hear nothing happend to you during your 30 years...........
Go on an upload some more videos, I will watch them. I like self made machined parts. Unfortunately they are only one or two minutes long. 13 min or more is okay.............
human7000 1 year ago
@human7000
So, Human, I'll retract my sarcasm and accede to the fact that you are correct in your original assessment, that chips should NEVER be removed by the human hand. I've just become a little bit bitter because I am no longer able to find work as a manual machinist and being unemployed here in New York has not done very much for my attitude and often I can only find pleasure in spending my days here on the internet. Yes, personal safety is ALWAYS an important part of any job.
Thanks...
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Dear LongIslandEddie
I didn't want to be unpolite. English is not my mother tongue, so I think crazy guy would have been the more suitable statement. Anyway, I enjoyed your video and
have seen it more than once.
I just have seen many ugly accidents happend with machines, nice to hear nothing happend to you during your 30 years...........
human7000 1 year ago
This is exactly the way how someone NOT should work on machines!!!!!!!!!!!
Pulling away the chips by hand on the lathe during the spindle is running........stupid.
Changing the part on the milling machine during the spindle ist running........stupid.
Probably he will learn first time when he was by the doctor...........
human7000 1 year ago
@human7000
Sorry to disappoint you son but I'm retired now and after 30 years of machining, still have all ten fingers, never even had a stitch! i am to machinery what Tony Hawke is to skateboards. Thank you for being my 79,049th viewer, I truly appreciate the hit!
No dude, my work is finished but I want to wish you luck at even finding a job but because you've shown some real talent here on this thread, I'll bet you would make an outstanding video critic. Keep checking the want ads, will you?
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie dont sweat it eddie, human is just a little bit intimadated by machinery, excellent vid! I rebuild machines and house one of north americas largest slydway grinders. I can stroke 26' within .0001".
jayk4406 1 year ago
@jayk4406
Great machine that you have there, 26" and holding .0001 tolerance is pretty commendable! I absolutely LOVE restoring and rebuilding old machinery, it's every bit as much an art as is manual machining where the human hand and mind bring out the best aspect of the profession rather than surrender these qualities to a computer logic chip. My deepest sorrow is that machining (in general), "ain't what it used to be", but for that matter, what else in this changing world is? Thank you...
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
So what the hell is it?
sawmill123456 1 year ago
@sawmill123456
These pieces are component parts of a very special and exclusive balcony railing and staircase ballusters. If you are interested, watch the video "The Railing", found on the front page of my channel. Thanks for suffering through this video.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
I would suggest that anyone who does not have a lot of shop experience NOT remove swarf with machine running and bare hands. And removing chips near a spinning endmill makes me nervous! Drill bits, OK - but mills are bleedin' sharp. Thanks for posting this video, it's interesting watching this project.
Volvo745T 1 year ago
@Volvo745T Its just dumb to do it with a drill also. using a large horizontal drill press with a large diameter drill can produce a chip that will slice your wrist with a quickness if your feeding it fast
william4art 1 year ago
Awesome video. Love the soundtrack.
sykop8ntballer 1 year ago
@sykop8ntballer
Actually, youtube made me edit the original post of this video because it had a copyright issue with my sound track and I had to choose a selection from their stock list of sound tracks available that are copyright- free. Because the video is so long (13 mins.+), I really didn't have much of a choice so I selected this classical composition. I'm glad that something about the video, made you happy.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie The whole video made me happy! You do some incredible work, Eddie.
sykop8ntballer 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie The 1812 overture. Good choice my friend! Should have use the Tchaikovsky version though! It's the only piece of classical music (to my knowledge) that uses live cannons as a musical instrument :-D
salemcripple 1 year ago
Not a good idea to remove chips with your hands/fingers. But I like the idea of using a rectangle stock behind the part to help center it.
gbowne1 1 year ago
@gbowne1 No problem using your fingers to remove thin aluminium and magnesium chips, stainless steel on the other hand... I've had a couple of nasty cuts attempting that.
Perius 1 year ago
@Perius
I have worked in the food processing equipment field for years, therefore,
I give Stainless Steel every bit of respect that it deserves, it is the greatest metal that I have ever worked with. I never get careless when stainless is in the picture.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Eddie, this is still one of my all time favorites that you put out on YT
I love your work my Bradda!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aloha WIDE!!!!!!!!!!
Keone Da SteelKahuna
SteelKahuna 1 year ago
I have been cut by pulling on lathe chips. Eddie must be better at it than me if he is still doing it.
I have the tools and the materials to make one of those doll house stair cases, but I don't want to.
I WOULD like to pick up some gynecological work.
I don't need the money, I would just like to stay busy and make my contribution to society.
tnekkc 1 year ago
@tnekkc
Doll house staircase? No, you misunderstood the video, it is a full size railing and stairway. It is made of stainless steel with brass and aluminum detailing. You need to see my other video "the Railing" if you need to be convinced of it's full size.
If you are looking for some freelance gynecological work, why not try craigslist*com? Theres so many women out there without health coverage but the profession is "looking up", even in these tough economic times!
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie I believe @tnekkc "misunderestimated" the scale of your project. My god man, that is beautiful work. Wish I had your skills.
lilbrudder32 1 year ago
@lil.rudder32 -Well, thank you kindly for that swell compliment
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
it is amazing to me. how many experts there are out there in the world. and yet none of them have actually done any metal working hahahaha. keep posting eddy. great videos. i was just reading some of the comments.
camochannel1 1 year ago
While the controversy rages on about something as ignorant as which hammer to use, something else drew my attention. Why would anyone grab chips or wire with your bare hands, much less with the machine on. That is what a chip hook is for.
johnqpublic903 1 year ago
My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
But, I thank you for viewing
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie I am a machinist, also. I'm just saying that I don't do it. I HAVE been cut doing the same thing you did, the last time it was the tip of my finger in the chip pan that taught me a lesson. Even with the machine off, I still use pliers or a hook. Unless it is the finish pass, I usually don't mess with the chips or wire anyway because I try to feed fast enough to curl a chip.
johnqpublic903 1 year ago
the reason he used a claw hammer is because it was probably closest to him. There is no danger in using a ball peen hammer to strike an aluminum pin, Its aluminum. There may be a slightly different hardness in the hammers, but they are made to hit metal also so they are probably hardened to a 40 something rockwell, for wear resistance only.
mtmx6 1 year ago
@mtmx6-
Actually, as far as understanding the whole issue of which hammer I "should" be using, you are the most correct responder thus far.
I used a claw hammer because it was the closest hammer on the workbench at the time. Even if I had a ball-peen hammer there on the bench, I certainly wouldn't have used it anyway, the ball-edge would've been no good for my application and by using a lighter weight hammer, it would've required more applied force, a wider swing and a reduced striking area.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
What is the end product used for?
chainsawz 1 year ago
You'd need to watch the third video to the right among the three responses shown above. The parts are component parts in an ornamental balcony railing.
Perhaps it was unfair of me, not to answer your question, by showing within this video, the end result, the railing.
In this case, the product was a one-of-a-kind creation, a custom railing for a man who had both the desire and the money to make it happen for himself. I know that I enjoyed the chance to create his dream, it is for forever!
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Hi Walt-
The design of a hammer has much to do with the application of the hammer as it is used to accomplish a given task, a heavy hammer for heavy work, a tack hammer for tacks, etc. Of ten, we become purists, defining specific applications to a point where we have lost sight of the big picture, that a hammer is a hammer, nothing more, nothing less. I would never want to constrain myself by sticking to established practices, I'm just not thinking from the other guys box, just getting it done.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
i hate three jaw chucks
extraplanetarysign 1 year ago
Without the benefit of self-centering the material being turned (as is done with a 3 jawed chuck), centering the workpiece would be pretty tough and unless you are trying to turn an eccentric piece such as a camshaft where you'd need a 4 jaw chuck its the perfect chuck for keeping the piece concentric.
But, why would ANYONE not like a 3 jawed chuck? Let me know, OK?
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
I love my 3-jaw chuck and every time I hear someone naysay they are a wannabe snob that doesn't know how to operate a lathe anyhow.
BTW, wouldn't an experienced machinist/ fabricator either:
A) know better than to use a claw hammer for that task?
B) already have a ball-pein hammer instead?
Just sayin'
zapwatt 1 year ago
Hi zap-
I'm a 3 jaw chuck lover myself and I want to thank you for siding with me on that issue!
As for the claw hammer, I would've known better than to use a claw hammer if I had ever met anyone, over the last 48 years, who could give me one serious and valid reason not to. I would never have used the domed (rounded) end of a ball-peen hammer to lock those 1/8" aluminum pins into the disks, I'd have used the flat end if I had used one. My claw hammer is 16oz., the flat face is 1" in diameter .
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
But, because I'm always willing to learn something new and am not ashamed to say that I don't have all of the answers, maybe you would be kind enough to give me the reason why I should know better.
Anyway, at least by your curious question, I believe that you watched the entire 13-1/2 minutes of the video and I thank you for that, you were the 67,796th viewer and I sincerely hope that you enjoyed it.
I really would like to hear your followup on the hammer protocol.
And like you, I'm just sayin'
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Okay well since you're not a dummy there probably isn't a huge risk but since solid hammers (non dead-blow type) do have bounce-back to them, there is a hypothetical risk of the hammer bouncing off of your metal work piece and the claw hitting you in the face. Honestly it is probably just my shop teacher's words haunting me. Carry on with what works for you. I'm a nerd.
zapwatt 1 year ago
Hello again zap-
Your shop teacher's words haunting you? Well, right or wrong on this issue really doesn't matter. The qualifying of yourself is in the fact that you listened to your shop teacher. Whether his logic holds true or not, you retained his words and that says a whole lot about you. Good for you zap!
I'm off on a netsearch to understand why your shop teacher believed it himself. My teacher taught me the law of inertia, for every action theres a like and similar reaction. Dead-blow?
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Hi zap-
I'm a 3 jaw chuck lover myself and I want to thank you for siding with me on that issue!
As for the claw hammer, I would've known better than to use a claw hammer if I had ever met anyone, over the last 48 years, who could give me one serious and valid reason not to. I would never have used the domed (rounded) end of a ball-peen hammer to lock those 1/8" aluminum pins into the disks, I'd have used the flat end if I had used one. My claw hammer is 16oz., the flat face is 1" in diameter .
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Oh and I forgot to say, awesome video! I really enjoyed it.
extraplanetarysign 1 year ago
I repair and fabricate electrical motor parts and pretty much exclusively use a 4 jaw. We have to hit sizes (bearing journals and such) sometimes within
.0005 tolerance so a three jaw is just not accurate enough. But I didn't mean to cause a stir, haha, I don't really hate 3 jaw, I think in and around the time I posted that comment I had just had a hell of a time re-setting one of our 3 jaw chucks that became misaligned. But they definitely have their place as they're convenient and fast setup
extraplanetarysign 1 year ago
Hello extraplsign-
The skills required to seat and align turning or boring work into a 4 jaw chuck outweighs by far, the mechanic who just pops a part into a 3 jaw chuck and machines to a 3 decimal tolerance. You are a tradesman who has learned the difference between the merits of one method over another, one way to do the job over another way. I respect your knowledge because I believe that you know what you are talking about and that is good.
Thanks for tuning in, watching and contributing!
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie - Apparently there's self-centering 4 jaw chucks ... but I have a 3 jaw at work - the 4 jaw is a big pain in the apples to center. But I probably don't know how to properly use.
Volvo745T 1 year ago
@Volvo745T
4 jaw are just for "square" parts.
SEThatered 1 year ago
@SEThatered
A 4 jaw chuck is for turning eccentric work, things where the center is offset from the outside diameter or outside edges.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie
I wanted towrite that bit too, but got lazy.
Cheers.
SEThatered 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie AMEN!! or if you are wanting to bore a hole that isnt concentric with the o.d WOW!!! where are these so called machinists from.. they need to go back to lathe 101 school
william4art 1 year ago
@william4art
There's a generation of "so called" machinists who would only know what a lathe was if they got to a museum who had one in their old relic department.
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
@LongIslandEddie ...so true..so true..so sad. lathe is probably my favorite of machining machines.. leblond is a nice brand.... love the way one changes gears so smooth..... I cant decide what I like better.. ...machining to classical music or heavy metal..lol
william4art 1 year ago
@SEThatered 4 jaw lathes are only for square parts if you have no clue how to use an indicator...WOW!!!!
william4art 1 year ago
i love doing stuff by hand...sometimes i get closer than the cnc does.
565Customz 1 year ago
That was a pleasure to watch. Thanks for uploading it.
spamsac 1 year ago
In an age where most things are capable of being replicated by highly automated machine systems like the FANUC arms, its nice to see machinists such as yourself. There is a strange beauty and elegance to be had in seeing a perfectly-machined piece of metal produced in the hands of an expert, and elegance to be found in technique honed only through years of experience, where no motion is wasted. It's always inspiring to see a master ply their trade, and you are no exception. I hail you!
rockettumbles 1 year ago
Gee, that's a pretty awesome way to put it! So many observers continue to tout the wonder of CNC machining and seem to do this with an aire of contempt for those like myself who go about making parts by hand, manually. There is no doubt that automated machinery has a valid place in the manufacturing process but still, there are those like myself who will find it necessary to educate those who were not born into the world of manual machining and to let them see how it was once done.
Thank you!
LongIslandEddie 1 year ago
Hey Long Island Eddie, I have the slightest idea what the heck you made, but while looking for mini metal lathe tips, I came across your post. I compliment you to the highest regard on the music in your post. It kicks ass !! I would watch again just to hear the music !!
trumpetchump 2 years ago
trumpchump-
The music? It is "chamber music" that came from youtube's vast library of available music for those who upload audio tracks which are protected by copyright law which violate youtube terms of service.
My original upload of this video contained an audio track which had no less than 4 different selections of music within the 13-1/2 minute course of the audio track. I chose this audio from youtubes offerings and I believe that it is the 1812 overture.
Thanks for watching...
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
clearly he knows whats hes doing, but really, thats cutting it pretty close, I've been in the trade for 14 years, I still have all my digits, being careful, but I've had my share of nasty cuts.....
mtlv004 2 years ago
I've had some cuts too but none so annoying as those gotten while working as a sheetmetal mechanic working with galvanized and cold rolled sheet stock.
As a lifelong welder, my fingers have lost much of their sensitivity and my hands are calloused allowing me to momentarily, handle "hot" metal and also to avoid the pain or damage from those bothersome superficial cuts or slices.
Thanks for viewing the video and for the seeming vote of confidence in my ability to perform tradesman's work.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I really enjoyed watching this, and the railing it was for looks great! I'm just starting out in school learning the machining trade, plan to get my mechanical eng. degree after I finish the program I'm currently in. I have complete faith that things will turn around, may take a bit... but it will. So long as its not stifled *cough-obama-and-cohorts-cough* American ingenuity will come out on top.
Thanks for the video, I always enjoy seeing others work.
heathen0351 2 years ago
I too, have faith that change will come. If Obama is to change any aspect of the economy, he needs to concentrate on restoring our manufacturing industry so that there are jobs for tomorrows people. without a job, a man cannot live or feed a family nor own a home, even an apartment. it's unfair to put blame upon Obama for the economic situation that we are now in, it was not his doing. I'm glad to see that you have put faith in American ingenuity though, we are the best people in the world.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I agree that it is not his fault that we are in the situation that we are in, however I do believe he is taking us in the same direction that the last administration did economically... only at a much faster rate. Putting our country further into debt is not the answer to our problem, in fact it will only exacerbate it, as well as bring on a host of other problems. Nothing will improve until our manufacturing industry does, just as you said. That can not happen if it is government controlled..
heathen0351 2 years ago
as with GM. Mark my words, so long as the gov. keeps their hooks in GM they WILL fail. When the gov. regulates and stifles private industry, picking and choosing who they will bail out and who they will allow to fail, true success can never be achieved, and potential will always be limited. That is the biggest problem I have with this admin. They need to allow things to run their course and keep their meat hooks out of private industry. Let GM fail, along with the UAW that caused them to.
heathen0351 2 years ago
Heath-
The political/social tide that has swamped us is as old as our history and blame cannot be placed against any particular entity. I hail from those days when we were flooded with television commercials for the UAW and the ILGW, every emphasis on the unions and their importance. I grew up with Jimmy Hoffa and Walter Reuther and even understand people like Samuel Gompers but today's politicians have sold the farm, fucked and fleeced us. Smart people saw it coming and warned us.
Shame...
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Sherekhan69 ..to criticize Mr. LongIsland like you did shows the world your missing a fundamental element of logic in your capacity to think and reason. You are defefinatly not normal and would probley fit well amongst the serial killer profiles. The only reason your unemployed is that the world hasn't figuired out yet just how smart you really are! Make sure your show these comment to your next HR rep. you interview with.
greencannoe 2 years ago 2
greencannoe-
Thank you for setting that guy straight, it was certainly apparent that he was on a troll mission and was grandstanding with all of his beat anologies. I'm convinced that there will always be someone out here who derives their best pleasure in putting others down. As for my own unemployment, this nasty economic downturn has pretty well affected every aspect of American manufacturing and we can only thank our political leaders who've voted for supporting the Chinese over US.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
be more confident as trades like yours are disapearing slowly.
ArtStdTransylvania 2 years ago
@ArtStdTransylvania-
Whether those trades like ours are disappearing quickly or slowly, really doesn't matter when the end result is that they are gone and the only measure of confidence is in the fact that things won't be turning around very soon. America has seen it's heyday, the dream is over. Thanks for stopping by and I enjoyed seeing your work, shown here on youtube.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I am impressed.
marcibb 2 years ago
marc-
And, I'm thrilled! I wasn't out to "showboat", or blow my own horn or to even solicit praise from my audience, I posted the video because I was proud of my product. Sure, I breached the standard safety practice barrier but sometimes, the end result takes precedence over things you did to get there. I'm just a guy who likes to take raw material and make, finished, functional product. As for being the "last" machinist? That was explaned by me (below), over a year ago. Doubters, research it!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Very nice, this is true old-school machining. CNC's are waayy too easy nowadays.
antboy824 2 years ago 2
@antboy824 I don't know if I would say cnc is too easy. I agree they are getting easier all the time, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. The point of cnc is increased production. I run both cnc and manual (as does Eddie if you read through the rest of his stuff) and I prefer manual work, but cnc has it's place. It allows you to do things you just couldn't do on a manual machine,(timewise) and to be a good cnc machinist you still need to be a good machinist.
jimboinlimbo 2 years ago
We are supposed to be impressed with this because why?
kuei1248 2 years ago
Why not be impressed? What do you find to be unimpressive about this video? Where are your videos? Oh, you have none but I've seen your last few comments to others and they don't impress me either, especially the one where you are asking someone for a blowjob.
Anyway, thanks for watching!
Y Feliz Navidad
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
You are mad because you realized your years of learning could be accomplished faster and safer by a 3rd week apprentice. Tool selection is inadequate. F+S Inadequate. Accuracy inadequate. Using basic skills, would have eliminated the need for the silly fixture. Your mechanical aptitude rivals that of a 5 year old. Touching a rotating tool is NOT cool. I have no vid cam, but I have machine skills. With your video skills you could make more money by investing in your own web page and a donkey.
kuei12 2 years ago
How sad, you seem focused upon your qualifications, your superiority, your need to denegrate me in a basis of your accomplishments. How can you go from one video to the next, speaking about oral sex, then coming here to let us all know how much you know about feed rate, spindle speed and your skill level at everything from a verbal assault to creating a fixture, a simple jig?
Perhaps you are right, I might need a Donkey. Are you busy this week?
Gee, thanks for watching, I appreciate the hit!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Superiority? Funny. I don't refer to myself as "The last Machinist" as if I am some sort of superhero. In fact, I am not even a machinist, LOL. But, I watched face off an aluminum slug in 2-1/2 minutes with the wrong tool, set up wrong. It is a 10 second job. Your other processes are just as faulty. As others stated, you have very unsafe practices. Eventually it will catch up to you. Not impressive. Yes, I am busy this week. I have a job as a Manufacturing Process Engineer.
kuei1248 2 years ago
Merry Christmas Dude!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Lay off, he's clearly a mature fella and still has all his fingers, a sure sign that he has ability, a poor machinist normally loses a digit or two pretty quick. Personally I enjoyed the vid and If you feel you can exceed this then please post some examples, I'd probably enjoy them too
blzbub1 2 years ago
blzbub- (you devil)
Gee guy, thanks! What you say in one respect is usually true, a cocky, know-it-all machinist does often bear the marks of his carelessness, often they wave their hand in my face and tell me how great they are even though they're waving only three fingers on the hand! Don't count on finding any naysayers found here, posting their work, most who come here to tell me how fucked up I am, don't have any videos to post. Thanks for your comment and for stopping by at my channel!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Wow, for an unemployed guy with all the safety acumen of Helen Keller in a dark room full of idling helicopters and circus knife throwers, you are one of the most egotistical and pompous idjits I've had the displeasure of listening to. Hope you were wise enough to stash away enough money to buy a slew of pens for which you can sign your unemployment checks with.
Sherekhan69 2 years ago
@Sherekhan69-
Actually, I was wise enough to have a signature rubber stamp made, only moments after I started receiving those State Unemployment checks!
Thank you for visiting my video, I appreciate your humor greatly, even your screen name although I really haven't come to understand exactly why, one would care to take a name, from a Sabu the Jungle Boy movie, popular back in the early fifties.
Happy New Year, Dude!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Did I just see this dumbass trying to lose his fingers hmmm what you have a new life insurance policy or something dim wit !!!
Tentors 2 years ago
Sometimes its just a matter of what you want to see. You could've seen my talent, my work, my product and fallen-in with those who've praised my work.
You had an agenda, you came to let us all know that you've been around a machine shop and perhaps more than just the sweeper.
Rise, see the glass as half full, give praise where it is due. 57,000 hits and climbing but you come here to call me a dumbass?
Dude, YOUR shit is weak, but be honored that I'm not unbolting on you. Thanx son.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Thank god they're develloping stemcell reasearch. If you loose one or two changing parts like that meybe they can grow you a new one. Seriously, it takes just as long to stop and start a machine, as it does to be so "extra careful" around a running machine. A little more rad on your tool combined with a litle more feed will still give your mirror finish on the aluminum pices, then you don't have to deal with those chips that you say you like so much. Your finish will be even better, no scratches
levisalo 2 years ago
It's a shame to see a good machinist's skills not being put to use. Why don't you come up here to western Canada. We can't get enough skilled tradesmen up here. Some of the companies in Saskatchewan and Alberta may even pay moving expenses. We just hired half a dozen "machinists" from Eastern Europe, and these guys wouldn't know a lathe from a coffee maker. I'd dress warm, though.
jimboinlimbo 2 years ago
Know know, I been a machinist for 40 years. Still got 10 fingers and 10 toes and 2 eyes with no damage. My big question is why in gods name take a chance with your money makers by changing parts with the spindle is still turning ??? Theres no need to take this chance STOP THAT SPINDLE ON THE MILL ON EVERY PART ! You will thank me on every pay day ! One of the very first things a good machinist does is take every chance to save his fingers !
hydroy1 2 years ago
My pay days are gone, I'm unemployed but all of my fingers, toes and both eyes are still here and now I'm so glad to find that they are serving me well after the many, many risky chances that I've taken.
Without my fingers, I wouldn't be able to sign my unemployment check, without my eyes, I couldn't send out my resume, here on the internet.
One thing that I'm thankful for is YOU! Thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving a comment.
Eddie
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
"My pay days are gone, I'm unemployed"
That statement is lacking the element of surprise.
kuei12 2 years ago
Well the trick is to not have stringy chips to begin with; grind a chipbreaker yourself in that C5 toolbit, or use a nice uncoated carbide insert with a high rake and tight chipbreaker- even that 6061 will break up well if treated right. And yes, I agree...if anyone has been a real machinist, you know what it feels like to have a blue chip singe into your skin, or a nasty cut from time to time.
ridemyrice 2 years ago
I used to think that a red-hot chip on my cheek was the worst. Then, I got a white hot MIG pill (welding) which landed in my ear! That's pain!
I never court disaster and don't approach any machine with fear, I know and respect what a machine can do and never push the envelope. I love the stringy chips, they are like floss or eiderdown when you set the tool to cut in that way.
Thanks for checking in on me and I can tell that you have been on the shop floor for awhile.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I wanted a special microfinish on these aluminum discs, they were decorative and part of an art-deco railing.
Sure, I could've "chunked" out material and perhaps sped-up the facing operation but because I was only removing .015 from the first side being faced (so that I could now have a true, flat surface), for taking the last cut on the opposite side. The finished discs were refractory, they gave off a glint and worked with added visual enhancement.
The bit was carbide tipped .
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
on your skin isnt bad but get one in your eye you got a problem and any machinist knows wearing goggles gets annoying but I have seen a chip go in someones eye that will make you never forget to weera goggles. I hate the little paperlike cuts I have on my hands all the time. I rush too much so I am careless with the burrs but I have never had aserious cut or anything knock on wood or brass.
bigdog0800 2 years ago
I'm an eyeglass wearer and as a machinist, I have real glass as the lenses in them. I have had the plastic (polycarbon) lenses but hot metal chips coming off of the Bridgeport or the lathe used to stick in or leave little burns on them so I started using the glass prescription lenses and things got better.
Thanks for watching!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Good video, why do you want to lose you fingers by pulling stringer swarf with your fingers?
barnornbk 2 years ago 2
Lose my fingers? Are you crazy? My second job is Gynocology and where in hell would I be without my fingers? What would ever make ANYONE believe that I'm looking to lose my fingers?
If I were a sword-swallower, would you ask me if I wanted to cut my throat by doing what I have practiced doing for so many years?
You'd be surprised by the many injuries that have come from using swarf hooks, needle nose pliers and other articles as tools to "safely" remove the swarf!
But, I thank you for viewing
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I had the same thoughs, I always use a brush to get rid of swarf, much safer.
happymark1805 2 years ago
sorry to ask but what is it?
i enjoyed the video by the way, great skills!!
ezpwnd 2 years ago
The piece(s) that I made were for a custom railing. You'd need to look at my other video ("The railing") to see how the pieces were used to complete the finished railing and stairway balusters.
Thank you for viewing the video, I had a great time making the component parts.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I want to do some window bars like that,
so it doesn't look like a prison...
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
SK-
Since there are no set standards for security bars, I encourage you to "do it up". As long as you have to look out the windows, you might as well enjoy the view.
You would be smart to build a jig that will allow you to assemble and weld the pieces so that if the design is not symmetrical, you can "flop" the finished panel so as to have a mirror image on other windows which are exposed to a viewing public. You can work with 3/4" sq. x 16 ga. steel tubing, it welds nicely with a MIG. Thanks.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Thanx for the advice Eddie, I'll do just that,
really makes sense...like "book matching" the windows from the outside...
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
Exactly! Book matching is a common practice in the cabinet shop but that is what I did when assembling the railing that I made. One advantage that I had was the use of the TIG welder rather than the MIG, because I was working with stainless steel, it was possible to fuse weld the njoints and use very little filler rod, the joints really had no noticible bead. If you are working with hot-rolled tubing, I suggest that you use silicon-bronze rod, it can almost be used like solder, it flows great.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
That's how I want to do things...mostly TIG, but have MIG for the mass production stuff. It's the real itricate stuff I need TIG for..."high precision" welding...
The jig is the ticket...I want to get a road plate 8'X14'X1/2" T-1 to set up my jigs on.
Put her on 4"X4" box tubing & heavy duty rollers so I can move it when I gotta clean up my shop. I've seen TIG used to braze...I gotta check that out too.
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
Wow! An 8 ft. x 14ft. table is really, really big! Do you honestly think that you need a bench that large? If you can score a road plate, you could always cut it down to a 4' x 8' plate because even on HD casters, that baby is going to weigh alot!
Using silbronze rod is just like brazing, the rod flows like butter, no ripples whatsoever and needs a relatively low heat from the TIG. I use alot of 3/32" rod and whether using the HF or not, the weld is almost cosmetic, you'll love it!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
It'll be my jig table for the bigger stuff. There's a lot of small cattle ranches who buy corral panels & ranch gates...plus I'll be doing other large things. I'm going to do a small bench w/ 3/8"X36"X70" for the real precision stuff (fine detail work). The big table I can move in & out with my truck.
SteelKahuna 2 years ago
Nice one Eddie you work like I do and many other Pro. tool makers, machinists,mechanics, the health and safety guys would do back flips if they saw some the Heath Robinson set ups I ve rigged up to get the job done over the last 40 odd years. This country [UK] is fast becoming a nanny state where only men like us dont work to book and think outside the box and get on with it
erniegwright 2 years ago
@erniegwright -
I say (like you do), any way that works and gets the job done is good! Some of the prouder moments of a job are the creative setups and tooling that you use in getting the job done, fast and once!
I fancy myself as much a "blacksmith" as any other title, I love taking raw material from the blank to the bank! America is less a nanny state than a wasteland for the manual mechanic who creates the design, draws the blueprint, sets the tolerances, makes the parts and does it all!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I work closely with a top machine shop in the UK, making F1 car parts and a lot of the stuff they do is still done on manual machines. They do complex five axis parts on the CNC machines and usualy do all the drilling and hole tapping manualy. They make nearly everything from titanium to 0.003mm (3 microns) tolerance, and still keep this tollerance with the manual machines.
hoarp001 2 years ago
hoarp-
I'll always have a place in my heart for manual machining, it has it's place in manufacturing and without it, we might've never slicked it up to become the CNC world that now dictates all volume machining for production parts these days.
The CNC machines are fantastic but you go thru a horror story if you just need one piece, a prototype piece which is sort of design-engineered, on the fly while the mechanic fits the part up and tweaks it into perfection. Thanks for watching!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
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jm0502 2 years ago
I think the real danger is that some very unknowing kid or just a very inexperienced person might see this and hurt themselves. Someone doing this for over 40 years knows the danger and has seen it first hand. Kids now a days if they even were intrested in such as this would have no earthly idea how powerful this machine really is and would just stick their hand any ole where. Thanks for posting the video I am comtemplating the purchase of a small lathe.
cryrocker 2 years ago
The chances that "some inexperienced kid" is going to even get next to a lathe is pretty slim and if they have learned even how to turn it on, operate the carriage feed, the cross feed, the RPM's, the tool post and everything else connected with operating a lathe, I'm pretty confident that they won't need to refer to this video and my example for further direction. The world is full of moving things but I don't think that they present temptation to those who see the motion. Thanks for watching..
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
Also, Cryrocker, I hope that you decide to get that small lathe, they can be alot of fun and you can entertain yourself for many hours. If you do get the lathe, DON"T follow my example! NEVER pick off the swarf (chips) with your hand. When you've gotten yourself a complete mastery over the equipment, then (and only then) may you fuck around like you see me doing here. Otherwise, protect your eyes and your hands at all times!
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
I don't want to take an old hand to task about safety, but it made me cringe watching you reach into a running machine to clear chips by hand! I have a hook for just that purpose... it doesn't feel cuts and if it gets smashed oh well!
redramage 2 years ago 2
Gahh - don't pick off the swarf with your hands!!
And pick up the feed a bit on those facing ops
KG2V 2 years ago 2
dont use your fingers to remove burs fool, that is what brushes are for, you dont want the dr to have to sow your big toe where your finger was
sayulitasurfer 2 years ago 2
I began machining over 45 years ago and have done a lot of machining since then and still have ten fingers and ten toes! Thanks for the tip but until this economy turns around, I'm not doing anymore machining and my fingers are safely wrapped around my mouse for now.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
doesnt matter how much expirence you have, its still an incredibly stupid thing to do. go and take you chances, but dont go and make it seem like its ok to do.
tacticalcheerio 2 years ago
tact-
I never endorsed nor intimated that it was o.k. to follow my example thru this video. Cris Angel recently buried himself (while handcuffed), below 6 feet of snow, in a coffin, for 30 minutes. He also stood and had a Cadillac Escalade hit him head-on at 30 MPH. I do what I do because I am secure in the knowledge that nothing will happen to me just as Cris Angel knows his own limitations. I don't subscribe to the "monkey see, monkey do" philosophy that you seem to believe in.
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
What the heck did you make? Even if its just an object you made for fun it was cool seeing it made. Good job that kind of work takes a lot of patience and skill. Glad to see someone who still knows how to do this stuff.
SparcoPerformance 2 years ago
SparcoP-
Thank you! If you are curious about the work that I was performing, you can appease your curiousity by clicking the second video response just below this video. Yes, the object that I was making was fun but it was only part of a greater project which you may care to see. Knowing how to do "this stuff" is only half of the battle, having a place to do it or a purpose for your skills is the biggest part of the picture. I'm still in my home on state unemployment. Welcome to America...
LongIslandEddie 2 years ago
yep cnc took over.
alehax27 2 years ago