But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. - John 7:39
"The Spirit of Truth that will be sent after Jesus leaves, can't be the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit was already there, so how can it be the Holy Spirit who's being sent?"
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
The Bible makes it clear that it is the Holy Spirit who will be sent after Jesus departs.
@jlmsuperman Quran says that only the God is the truth and all mankind should go to the God to seek the truth. Jesus never claimed so. It is what they make for him that he said so
Study all of those and see if they all refer to Muhammad. Why does he only mention ma·ḥă·mad... being in Song of Solomon 5:16, when ..ma·ḥă·mad... is in so many other places? Maybe because in the other places it can't be construed as the name Muhammad? I dunno. Study it all yourself and find out.
John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
Jesus is clearly saying that the Holy Spirit will be sent. If someone already exists, has already visited, he can be sent again. Sent to fulfill a new role. "Will Be Sent" There's no getting around that. Holy Spirit will be sent. Not flesh/man/prophet, but a Spirit being to dwell within and stay within man throughout the ages.
@jayd4ever the biggest proof is that no one was able to produce anything like the quran....not even the most skilled arabic poet....even today, no one can produce anything like it. its considered as the highest form of arabic literature even today
@MrFreeze7005 that obvisously is a lie why would anybody be so mad to make a book about himself making a book only stupid people would try make a religious book
@MrFreeze7005 christians and muslims schlors had before calculated the earth to be just under 6000 years old hinduism showed to us civiliastion defintley existed possibly 10,000 or 1000,000 years ago its also gives a close value to what modern science which is 4.5 billion years ago so there are many mathematical and science facts in the vedas proving its the only truth 'And to those who were Jews We made unlawful all of those who have claws, and of oxen and sheep' this is error
@jayd4ever the age of the universe is accurately given in the quran.....the speed of light is also accurately given in the quran.....what more do u want??
as for the veda mistakes....see atharvaved 12:1:11 "Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms" and yajurved 5:16 "earth is fixed with pegs around it"
also see yajurved 33:43 "O, man, the sun who is most attractive, takes round of the earth, on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth"
@MrFreeze7005 your probbly only muslim who says this i have spoken to other muslims and they said the quran doesnt mention it but islamic schlors have calulated 6000 years because in the quran it says a day is like 1000 years for god and it says god made the world in six days so 6000 years ago thats how they i think they thought and thats the reason why modern science said the earth is billion years old muslims and christians rejected this and already explained everything abuot the quotes
@jayd4ever haha....christians?? the bible actually says earth was created in six 24 hr days!!!!! quran says in six days of that time.....not 24 hr. so christians were wrong at that.
@MrFreeze7005 it doesnt mention 24 hoursin the bible im just saying what your islam schlors said and found out before modern science proved them wrong and how does it equal 6 trillion days that depends actually now your just guessing
@jayd4ever i showed you that video.....there were 3 scientific facts about embryology (miracles) which were discovered just 20 yrs ago.....impossible for an man to guess it 1400 yrs ago. still you dont consider it to be a scientific fact....LMAO!! the quran says moon has reflected light....another scientific fact discovered just recently......i can give you tons
@jayd4ever that verse is just a mantra??? hahaha what a joke.....u mean to say mantra's are false?? why would some knowledgible person so unambiguously say earth is fixed with pegs??
@jayd4ever haha....what are you talking man?? quran never says earth is fixed with pegs!! the bible says, the veda says....but the quran says earth is floating in an orbit!!
@jayd4ever its probably describing pegs as mountains and when it says fixed meaning stable and staionary so we can live on it so theres no error if it says this in the vedas but this is a mantra it probably is just saying god made the earth perfect
@jayd4ever the bible does say 24 hr days.....the word "yom" in hebrew stands for a 24 hr period. the quran says six days of that time...The energy at the moment of the Big Bang slowed down the flow of time 10^12 times.....10^12 is a trillion
@jayd4ever the quran just said universe was created in 6 days.When this period is calculated according to the relativity of time, it equates to six million million (six trillion) days. That is because universal time flows a million million times faster than time on Earth. Calculated in terms of years, 6 trillion days equates to approximately 16.427 billion years. This is within the estimated range for the age of the universe.
6,000,000,000,000 days/365.25 = 16.427104723 billion years
@MrFreeze7005 thats nothing to find salt in pharoh's body means nothing it doesnt mean that body drowned if you didnt know whhen they mummify pharohs they add salt thats where the salt came from and besides they dont even known which pharoh it is because the quran didnt want to get exposed
@jayd4ever u have answered just one of my points....and that too not completely. The quran also predicted that pharaohs body will be preserved...bible didn't. They don't give his name bcoz both were books from god. I gave u tons of points...I can still give u tons more. now u say purana is not from god..ok...how does that prove hinduism is truth??
@MrFreeze7005 it proves hinduism is the truth because all the facts i gave you werent from the purana i gave you from the vedas and the bhavisya purana was only made 1000 years ago unlike the other puranas so its the most unreliable im sure like you said muslims and christian must have added their own text into it and besides exodus is fictional the only evidence you have from the bible and quran is the existence of muhammed because you claim you have his clothes and his tomb but not other
@jayd4ever muhammad is also prophecized in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13.....he is described as "narashansa".....translated as "praised one". even muhammad means praised one.....see Mantra 2- "He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven." and we know muhammad was a camel rider. so this prophecy again refers to none other than muhammad
@jayd4ever bible says moon has its own light, quran says moon has borrowed light....apart from that i gave u hundreds of proofs that quran isnt copied from bible.....i bet u cant answer all of them. u r in denial.
@MrFreeze7005 i aledy answered all your questions everything is not copied i know but alot of it because if they were who would read the quran and many intelligent civilsations knew this muhammed probably got it from there and also the bible has extra prophets which the quran doesnt even mention
@jayd4ever According to Manusmirti chapter 11 verse 202, "A Brahman is prohibited from riding a camel or an ass and to bathe naked, so that cant be an indian.....further....Mantra 3- "He is Mamah Rishi"..... No rishi in India or another Prophet had this name Mamah
@jayd4ever there is no rishi in india with the name of "mamah". and that too narashansa means praised one.....in arabic, muhammad. its all crystal clear!! and given 60000 enemies, we cant deny it......its 100% obvious.
@jayd4ever in the same verse, Mantra 1- "He is Narashansah or the praised one" He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60090 enemies......we know the population of mecca was around 60000...so this is obvious...its 100% its referring to muhammad!!!
@jayd4ever there is no proof that quran is copied from the bible....no proof at all!! you are making assumptions and trying to kill 2 birds with one stone. there are prophets in the quran also which bible doesnt mention. bible has so many mistakes....quran doesnt have a single. bible says moon has its own light...quran says its borrowed. quran gives the speed of light....bible doesnt. the reason why there are similarities is because even the bible was from God once
@MrFreeze7005 im sure what your saying was said about the bible that no one can copy it but tthen look what happened the quran came and copied there's a reason why most of major religions came more than 1000 years ago there are prophets in the bible which are not mentioned in the quran both the bible and the quran have equal number of mistakes alot of things in the quran and the bible are fictional thes no proof or any historical evidence of it happening like no noah's ark,no exodus etc
@jayd4ever we do have evidence of noahs ark......its found in turkey, and 99.9% confirmed. the bible says full earth was covered by water.....its impossible. but the quran says only part of the earth was covered....this is possible. so the quran was correct over there and the bible was wrong. this once again proves quran is not copied
@MrFreeze7005 stop lying theres no scientific or historical evidence to prove noah's ark is real same with the exodus and the same way you assume that quran has scientific facts so does the bible "It is He that . . . stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in." [40:22] this is saying the universe expanding and that space is empty is another verse
@jayd4ever yes, the universe is expanding.....whats wrong in that?? and it nowhere does say space is empty.....even the vedas contain many mistakes, if u want i can point out tons
@jayd4ever bible was also the word of god once. thats why it has scientific facts....same for the vedas as well. all were books of god, but only the quran is preserved as God Himself says he will preserve it. mistakes in the vedas, do u really want?? im not here to spread hatred among hindus and muslims....infact i want the hindus to properly follow their vedas and believe in one God.
@MrFreeze7005 okay that just proves you are one of the good muslim most muslims try to convert non muslims despite the errors ,unlogical stupid idea of the religion alot of muslims dont even follow the teachings except on eid and the vedas wasnt made by god it was made by rishi who were intelligent scientists,schlors they had high knowledge and had the power to communicate with god so even if you do find a error that verrse probably wasnt by god but i doubt it you could
@MrFreeze7005 the vedas doesnt have any mistakes the mistakes you think that are there are probably describing something else and quran has mistakes and it has no scientific facts alot of claims like keepin pharoh,noahs ark etc havent been found yet theres no proof historical evidence no mention and alot of it isnt something new alot of intelligent civilisation knew science and maths like the hindus,chinese and the greeks
@jayd4ever there is not a single scientific error in the quran.....not a single. i challenge you. and noah's ark has been found in turkey....there is evidence. there are hundreds of scientific miracles in the quran.....science has discovered them only today
@MrFreeze7005 no it isnt stop lying i have seen all the proofs its not certain they assume its there and quran has no scientific facts only description so believe what ou want but to me islam is nothing just belief
@MrFreeze7005 thats not really scientific fct many knew about embrynology but no one knew enough about genes and dna and the quran doesnt go in detail it just describes so there was no relvations there
@jayd4ever thats not a scientific fact??? hahaha...what a joke. man, it was discovered just 25 yrs ago. was that person so foolish, he reverted to islam by just watching that video
@MrFreeze7005 ok earlier civilisations knew but many dont believe it like the concept of gravity was known by hindus but the western world didnt mention it andd said newtorn discovered which isnt true and there are many more examples
@TheAbahaziz. I didn't show him the mistakes since I didn't want a flame war....but since u have already shown him now.......let's see. I proved to him the prophecy of muhammad in the vedas and bible...he still doesn't accept
According to wiki statistics, hinduism has negative growth....islam is fastest.
@TheAbahaziz it says the Average distance between earth and sun = 108 times the sun's diameterAverage distance between earth and moon = 108 times the moon's diameter The moon's diameter is 2159 mi, and 108 x 2159 = 233,172 and a schlor was able to get a close value to speed of light using the vedas so vedas are the truth and most of what you claim are from bhavisya purana which is the most unreliable purana
@jayd4ever No scientific facts ok you won but I accept you win, this debate only if you go on Google and see what teh Historians found out... Quran was over 1400 yrs ago these are Historians. Also i'll give you the video please watch it if you are truthful...
@jayd4ever DO YOU REALLY READ THE VEDA....... VEDA SAY 1.THE EARTH IS STATIC. 2. SUN IS NEARER TO EARTH THAN THE MOON. 3. SUN MOVES AROUND THE EARTH ON GOLDEN CHARIOT WITH SEVEN HORSES. I HAVE MANY MORE FOR YOU...........
@TheAbahaziz NO USE ARGUE WITH HINDUISM. THEY ARE AMONG THE FEW RELIGION THAT ARE SHRINKING.MILLION S OF ITS FOLLOWER ARE TURNING TO CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM. THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES ARE GOING INTO VILLAGES WITH BAGS OF MONEY TO CONVERT THE POOR ILLITERATE HINDUS.
@TheAbahaziz i have already shown real quotes proving vedas is the most compatible religion with science and i know that that how islam and christianity grew it was by forrce and no millions are changed it either by brainwashing them or converting by force and it only happens in few areas and islam is growing by 0.8-1.2% while islam is little higherr
@MrFreeze7005 I GIVE UP....... HOW TO DEBATE WITH A PERSON WHO HAVING SO MANY VEDAS??? WHEN YOU PUT A POINT ,HE SAID OH THAT IS FROM THAT VEDA.... AND THAT VEDA IS WEAK ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT...... !!!!! AND WHEN YOU PUT A POINT FROM THE "STRONG" VEDA..... I BELIEVE WILL SAY THAT "STRONG " VEDA IS WEAK IN THIS PARTICULAR POINT......!!!!! YOU WILL GOING ROUND AND ROUND ON GOLDEN CHARIOT PULL BY 7 HORSES LIKE THE SUN !!!!!
@TheAbahaziz that quote is a manta believe it or not its just describing there is nothing scientific here so your not proving i already explain what it mean
@TheAbahaziz it doesnt contradict this wasnt ascientific fact it was a mantra just describing and your assuming its say exactly what universe is like just like how you muslims claims your quran has scientific facts when it doesnt and it was made by different rishis
@TheAbahaziz okay first there many vedas and in many parts vedas they say opposite like it says the earth revolves around and the quote is describing this is not sciencthis actually saying the sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”and about seven horses its describing The way seven rays of sun carry its illumination across the world like horses of a chariot
@TheAbahaziz and where it says let us walk on this static earth it is actually saying May we travel all around the earth that provides us prosperity, nutrition, medicines and supports us in a variety of ways its describing and theres a word called dhruva means providing support which we know the earth support us to live on there are many scientific facts like The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction. rig veda
@TheAbahaziz there is also a quote about other planets and secrets about universe was not known in the earlier civilisations unlike islam's false claims the only thing people before muhammed thought was there was only moon,earth and the sun and nothing else the vedas proves us wrong by talking about other life forms and other planets and other planets like earth only god could have known this
@jayd4ever just watch this video "watch?v=XNVnPiU7aGo".....a scientific study proves quran is the word of god, but the bible is altered.......bible has many mistakes but the quran doesnt have a single. the reason they share similarities is bcoz even the bible was once God's word. plus apart from the vedas, muhammad is prophecized in the bible in several places....this makes it obvious that he will be a prophet and that quran is God's word
christians never said he was god he said he was son of god which is different and second all you converted christians and muslims get back to your roots your getting brainwashed your ancestors were likely all hindus most good christians and muslims admit this GETBACK!
Yes, there are christians that jesus was god himself. Yet, some believe that he was son of god. Which one is true? who is right, catholics, or protestants, orthodox or presbyterian? which one is the real word of god, luke or john. It is hard for christians to except this fact, but your religion is the work of man
If islam is not the word of god, than how do you explain all the recently discovered scientific facts that are stated with such accuracy and detail in the qur'an? or the prophecies that came true? I am very much willing to prove the qur'an to be the word of god, can you prove otherwise?
@Mohammed77757 you do realise so many scientific facts wre discovered by greeks,hindus and the chinese alot of what we know is because of them but it was kept secret from western world unlike now and if you didnt know meccans use to trade with the indians and other countries that existed so your scientific claims dont mean anything and prophecies i dont know what prophecises you talking about but other religions have also propheticed and is yet to come true but its all belief
@jayd4ever These are scientific facts that people never knew or believed at the time: such as the fact that the earth is geo-spherical, the big bang, specific stages of the embryo. The prophecies include that the muslims would conquer the roman and persian empires [which is like saying that you will conquer 2 countries like america], and surgical alteration.
@Mohammed77757 actually there were other civilisations that knew about the earth being spherical but western world didnt know about this and the idea of gravity was made by hindus but the western world lied and said newton came up with it and stages of embryo were known by greeks before islam existed and big bang dont know but islam doesnt say anything about it muslims are against the big bang or evolution while hindus,buddhist etc accept it and the vedas prophetcised queen victoria
@Mohammed77757 islam is fake it says the universe was made in 6 days, we can talk to ants, the sun sets on muddy waters, the earth is flat and so much more
Universe was made in 6 days: It was made in god's days, not our 24 hour days
We can talk to ants: The qur'an says that prophet sulayman could talk to them, not us.
the sun sets on muddy waters: It is a misinterpretation, it actually means he followed the direction the sun was setting in, and when it set, he came upon a place with muddy water.
Earth is flat: were did you get that? it says clearly in surtax al- shams, the earth is geo-sherical.
@Mohammed77757 yeah you assume and make up your lies just read dont assume something to make how you know the quran is just the earth is like a carpet which is flat and clearly states the sun sets on muddy water dont assume that it say he followed it and saw muddy water so many errors in quran
@jayd4ever u still think the same nonsense?? hav some common sense dude......i gave u answers for that. earth is like a carpet means the crust of the earth is comfortable like a carpet so that u can walk on it....it never mentioned flat. and sun setting in muddy water = LMAO!!!!!! u havent even read the verse properly. it was describing what appeared to zulqarnayn. stop spreading lies about islam
@MrFreeze7005 fuck you terrorist you making up lies you cant make up your own assumations when its says earth is like carpet and if what you are saying is true the quran has no scientific facts its just description of what happened with the prophets
@jayd4ever dude, im not a terrorist.....dont use insulting language. earth(crust) is "like a carpet"....not "carpet shaped".....i hope u can understand the difference. the quran clearly gives that day and night wrap around the earth like a turban.....so the writer of the quran knew the earth is round......and haha.....u were speaking about some muddy water thing??
@jayd4ever "He has created the Heavens and the Earth for Truth. He wraps the night up in the day, and wraps the day up in the night." (39:5).....the arabic word used is "takwir" which is used for the way a turban is wrapped around the head. furthermore, a carpet neednt necessarliy be flat, it can even be wrapped around a curved surface......and that muddy water thing is LMAOOOOO!!
@MrFreeze7005 well really that is just describing that the earth has night and day which we all know and im sure the people at that time knew that too and why would the wrap up a carpet and if you do they dont wrap it up in a round shap normally the carpet is flat but that sure isnt a could quote for the earth being spherical and about muddy waters if you says they were describing what the prophet saw how did the prophet see it set when it never does and espically not onto muddy waters
@jayd4ever it said day and night wraps into each other.....like a turban!! that means the writer of the quran knew the earth was round, otherwise why would he use the word "takwir"?? the earth's crust is spread like a carpet so that U CAN WALK OVER IT. its given in the same verse itself. a carpet is generally laid over a place which is rough, if the earths crust wasnt there u wouldnt be able to walk over it
@MrFreeze7005 so really the quran is just description it has no scientific facts because intelligent civilasatio knew all of this befor islam existed.
@jayd4ever if u say Muhammad forged the quran, then the challenge for u lies in the quran itself!!!!! just produce or point out a single sura that the quran has....a single!!
@MrFreeze7005 why not i could create the best religion by copying all the religion before me and change the flws to something that make sense but im not stupid god is watching muhammed was a demon and i think the quran has been altered many times and eeven if it isnt it dont mean anything is still fake
@jayd4ever muhammad was a demon??? my ass!!! he was a prophet accoring to the bible, torah and even your vedas and puranas!! quran cant be altered bcoz it has been byhearted by so many people across the world.....and do u really think muhammad wrote the quran?? do u even know??? muhammad was an illiterate....and the quran is the highest form of arabic literature on earth EVEN TODAY
@MrFreeze7005 and also Sura 20:53 "He who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out" and then he had mountains as pegs so quran says the earth is expanse so flat earth and also its says that muhammed split the moon but there is no evidence of nearby persia or syria reporting a split moon and it doesnt mention how it got back together and besides it would be impossible there would be so much destruction to the waves as the vedas states
@jayd4ever how many times do i have to tell u carpet neednt be only flat?? it can be spread out even over a sphere!! just like the earths crust is!! its like a carpet so that u can walk on it. btw still some scholars translate it as "he made the earth egg shaped"......arabic is a multi meaning language, so stop nitpicking on one word alone. and LMAOOO!!! the moon splitting was a miracle dude!!! God can do miracles!! God helped muhammad split the moon and also helped him put it back
@MrFreeze7005 yeah but you dont need a carpet to walk on it and carpet being a sphere need too much detail why would wrap a carpet when its made to be flat on the floor and you said it all arabic is multi meaning language so you cant assume something when it doesnt even say that and the quran doesnt say that god put moon back together and no one else saw it beside muhammed and his followers so fake
@jayd4ever the quran doesnt give u scientific equations about everything....it just says it through a notion.....here it meant, the inner layers of the earth are hostile to life so the crust(the earth/ground we stand on) is spread like a carpet SO THAT WE CAN WALK. the exact translation is "and we made the earth as a carpet SO THAT YOU CAN WALK OVER IT"...its like a carpet so that u can walk.
@jayd4ever The splitting of the moon was demonstrated before a certain gathering who contradicted the Prophet Muhammad in his cause as an evidence of his prophethood. there were obstacles which prevented the others from seeing it, such as mist, clouds and time differences. Besides, at that time science and civilization were not yet well advanced so the observation of the sky was limited. There was nothing to necessitate that it should have been seen all over the world
@MrFreeze7005 okay like you said its multi meaning so you just assuming from yourt own thoughts that is what quran saysand the moon should have been seen by nearby countries like persia,syria etc but theres no mention about it anywhere in history and besides it would be impossible and let me give you example they say that when jesus was being crucified there were earthquakes there is historical evidence of earth quakes or some sort in israel near that time but we cant be exact
"Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".
@MrFreeze7005 and quran says there are 124.000 prophets but they only mention the prophets from the bible why is that why dont they mention entirely new prophets except muhammed who made the quran and yes about the earthquake but im giving description and a earth quake is like the moon spliting it must have been done by god there other historical evidence of a earthquake happening in isreael near the time of jesus but that doesnt mean its true but its that other peole felt it
@jayd4ever that earthquake was not a miracle....but the moon being put back was!! with the technology we have today we can find out that the earthquake occured.....but moon splitting cant!! thats bcoz it was put back exactly as it was before splitting.......and obviously quran is not copied from the bible bcoz the quran clearly states jesus christ DID NOT DIE on the cross. i can even give you proof from the bible to support this claim
@MrFreeze7005 'There was a mystic demon named Tripura (Tripurasura), whom I have already burnt to ashes once before, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the evil ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified' this states mahmada or ahmad was a demon a evil person and if you think this become hindu it prophecised
@jayd4ever that word used for "evil demon" is "maleccha".....but wait.....maleccha can also mean a foreigner.....some hindus take the wrong meaning of this and make a fake translation just bcoz they dont want to accept the fact......btw muhammad is also prophecized in the bible....song of solomon 5:16 he is mentioned by NAME. this cant be anyone else!!
@MrFreeze7005 yeah but it could also mean a foreigner that is a demon amd in song of soloan that wasnt muhammed to call someone lovely it doesnt mean its muhammed it doesnt even mention him and do you claim muhammed had a lover again stop assuming things and the earth does move it rotates and moves around the sun so its not fixed as the quran claims so wrong again and so now your saying the quran copied some of the vedas we dont only have one vedas we have many written by rishis who talk to god
@jayd4ever stop giving excuses dude, read in HEBREW..."hikko mamittaki we kullo MUHAMMADIM".....he is mentioned by name!! it cant refer to anyone else....for FULL 100% PROOF "watch?v=1t7rxoKwYRo". its said that the maleccha will defeat the enemy...so its not a wicked person or demon. that translation u gave was fake
@MrFreeze7005 nothing i said was fake its all facts you muslims assume things we dont have one book like your book we have many made by rishis not god but they had the power to communicate with god and i dont understand hebrew but the translation dont mention muhammed you just assume because millions would have realised it by now but no one has and whats the enemy i thought muhammed was peaceful he was evil and demon so believe what you want it wont change the fact islam is fake in so many ways
@jayd4ever dude, muhammad is translated as lovely.....that person cant be anyone other than muhammad....watch the vid i told you. muhammad is a demon? my ass!! he has already fulfilled 50% of the prophecy given in your books....the other half we dont know....maleccha can mean demon as well as foreigner. its YOU WHO IS ASSUMING THINGS. 50% of that prophecy is fulfilled.....you people dont like islam so u start assuming muhammad is a demon.
@jayd4ever islam is not proven fake.....to prove it fake Almighty God himself challenges you in the quran.....2:23 "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides God, if your (doubts) are true."
.....even the most skilled arabic poets at that time failed to produce anything like the quran......and you think an illiterate man produced it?? haha
@jayd4ever Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy 18:18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
christians say it refers to jesus....but the only prophet that we know who was like moses is muhammad!!
@MrFreeze7005 also the why dont they mention the pharoh by name because they knew the religions would be proven fake as the time period would be wrong and also if you claim moses was muslim and islam existed because muhammed then why isnt there any historical evidence of it existing before muhammed relly islam was just a small religion for meccans like muhammed and then it grew by muhammed's followers forcing millions to convert and then it grew and why are there more jews then muslims in israel
@jayd4ever you are asking why, why, why??....why doesnt it mentionany other prophets, apart from the bible...thats a dumb reason to say islam is fake....thats no reason at all....haha
@MrFreeze7005 well it does islam says there are 124,000 prophets sent by god but god only knew about 24 of them all of them being in the bible just proves islam is copied from christianity and stop lying thats impossible to prove he was ilterate there is no proof he was and whats so beautiful about the arabic language its just a language spoken by arabian and im sure no one tried to copy the quran because people are no evil and brainwashed like muhammed
@jayd4ever dude thats no reason for quran being fake.....God knew about the other prophets.....just because he hasnt mentioned it doesnt mean it has been copied.....the challenge lies in front of you, if not the whole quran, just produce one SINGLE chapter like it.....A SINGLE!! not even the most qualified arabic poets were able to do it. im not saying arabic is a beautiful language...i said the quality of language used in the QURAN is beautiful
@jayd4ever just having one book doesnt mean the religion is fake....your logic just eats itself up, big time!! if you want, even i can prove hinduism is fake an vedas have mistakes....but i wont. im here just for peace, and i want people to understand their own religion. i want hindus to follow all that is common between hinduism and islam. you are not supposed to do idol worship....so all those IDOLS you make of vishnu, shiva, ganesha...are fake gods...vedas say God is one withoout a second
@MrFreeze7005 dont teach me my religion and muhammed knew it would be hard for people to follow his lie so he asked his followers to write it that so it seems believable and how you know he was illterate i can write in a book say im illterate too and some years people would say i was illterate and idol worshipping is man made it just ways some people find comfortable praying too and we dont pray to the idol we pray to god through the idol and vedas is not one book
@jayd4ever the "hadith" was written by the companions of the prophet....not the quran. have you even seen the type of language in the quran and hadith?? there is a world of a difference between them!!! the challenge lies in front of you....Almighty God himself challenges you in the Quran.....just produce something like it.....just one sura(chapter).
@jayd4ever historical evidences have proved that muhammad was illiterate....and even if he wasnt, no human being can produce such a beautiful language that the quran does NOT EVEN THE MOST SKILLED ARABIC POETS.
@MrFreeze7005 if i can find one error in the quran one book its fake we have many books written by rishis who were inteligent scientists not god they talked when they couldnt understand something but we dont know which passage is from god and which is from the knowledge of the rishis and why doesnt islam mention any of other 124,000 prophets instead it only mentions the jewish and christian and prophets because muhammed didnt know any other prophets islam is fake end of discussion
@jayd4ever yes, there is not a single error in the quran......if you want even i can point out several errors in your vedas.....it will directly prove hinduism is fake if i can point even one error. but im not here for that
@MrFreeze7005 islam is a religion it not a way of life like hinduism islam is just belief it just describes things it dont have scientific facts and as hinduism has many scientific facts which is the only religion compatible with science i wouldnt say its 100% real because alot of science and maths was known by early intelligent people like they rishis and they had some idea without them we wouldnt have all the modern sciences we have now religion is belief not science and hinduism is oldest
@jayd4ever who said islam is not a way of life?? LMAO!! you dont even know such a basic thing about islam?? the quran itself says islam is a way of life and it clearly shows you how to live.....and oldest doesnt mean its true. its only 4000 years old. what about before that?? there was no religion before that 4000 yrs??
@MrFreeze7005 the conceptsof hinduism existed over 10,000 years and you muslims say why do you worship idols you muslims worship black stone and that holy water in mecca so you cant say anything im sure god didnt say kiss my black stone and put germs on it or walk around it 7 times like your getting married
@jayd4ever HAHAHAHAHA!!! LMAOOOOOO!! who told you muslims worship the black stone or holy water?? u dont even know that?? seriously LMAOO!! thats already an outdated joke, cmon. going 7 times around it doesnt mean u r worshipping it....it just purifies your soul and removes your sins. hindus believe bathing in ganges will remove their sins, so does it mean they are worshipping the river??
@jayd4ever look at your own vedas......"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste" "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship created things." [Yajurveda 40:9]7
so before speaking against islam, first tell your hindu brothers not to worship natural things(trees, fire, water,air, etc) and also created things(idols). also tell the hindu polytheists to believe in just one god
@MrFreeze7005 where did you hear those lies and why do ou keep repeating the samethings over and over again like the way some of your muslims keep terrorising people and we dont worship idols are we that stupid? we worship god through the idols and we dont worship trees,fire,water etc we believe theres holy water just like you muslims in mecca so hypocrite and let me give you example of how you muslims assume things it says sink depper in darkness how did a human know it become dark when you go
@jayd4ever yes, the puranas and vedas may have been the word of God...i agree....but the ones we have today are not the original ones...several changes have been made to it and it does contain mistakes.
@jayd4ever Why is it that the Bible tells us that pharaoh did not drown, and the Quran tells us that he drowned, but Allah left his body as a sign to mankind. when they dissected pharaoh’s body, they found out that his body had too much salt inside it. you say the Quran is copied from the Bible? you are ignorant! Read the Quran 10:92.
@MrFreeze7005 everything isnt copied obviously but most of it is if it was exact samething no one would believe it and no one would read it the bible says the water covered the pharoh and his army so he drowned but it doesnt say about the body being kept but they still havent found the salt body of the pharoh and we donnt know which pharoh it was and noah ark hasnt been found its belief and i dont know everything about the bible word for word because i havent read it but there have been compared
@jayd4ever noah's ark has been found, who said it hasnt?? it has been found in turkey. and they did find the salt in pharoah's body when they dissected it.....i have given you tons of proofs to prove my point.....i can even give u more if u want
@MrFreeze7005 they are still looking for noah's ark around turkey as the bible ciaims and thers no scientific evidence and if they found the pharoh's body who was the pharoh give me all proofs
@jayd4ever Yeung Wing-Cheung, from the Noah's Ark Ministries International research team, said: "It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it."...........i gave u several other proofs...for ex Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood ?.....u r in denial. just bcoz u dont like islam u cant keep speaking against it and telling its fake
@jayd4ever Why is it that the Bible tells us that Moses was adopted by Pharaoh’s daughter, and the Quran tells us it was Pharaoh’s wife? Where does the Bible mention Luqmaan? Why doesn’t the Bible mention that Noah had two wives?? one was disobedient, and she died. And another which was saved.
@jayd4ever why does the bible say the water covered the entire earth during the time of noah?? and why does quran say only part of the earth was flooded??
@jayd4ever Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood ? The town of Thamoud has been discovered in Saudi Arabia–it’s located in a place called Mada-in Saleh. And recently, the town of Aad has been discovered with the help of NASA’s satellites??
@jayd4ever The Quran details embryology, why doesnt the Bible? the Quran mentions the names of the gods during Noah’s time in Surat Nuuh, why aren’t those names present in the Bible? Why does the Bible encourage Bribery in Proverbs 17, and the Quran never encourages such thing?
@jayd4ever (contd) the Quran hasnt been altered.....the quran also has been memorised word to word!!....go anywhere in the world, you'll find just one Quran!! Almighty God himself says in the Quran that He will protect it until the day of judgement. As the Qur’an (Ch. 21, V. 18) advises us:
“When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish”.
@MrFreeze7005 deeper now im not stupid and dont assume im sure there were intelligent minds who knew this at that time its not scientific fact its something most would know
@jayd4ever instead of telling everyone here islam and christianity are fake, first tell your hindu brothers who believe in hundreds of gods....some hindus even believe human beings are god, some of them even believe in something called goddess, some of them even believe god really looks like the idol.....go tell them first what to do before you speak lies about islam. end it here
@MrFreeze7005 we dont believe in hundreds of god we believe in one true god but we pray to his demi gods also because they have similar power to god and why isnt it possible to for god to mainfest in his own creation like you said god can do anything and goddess are like saints,teachers and demi gods but we dont know what they look like people just assume that by drawing a image its man made and some believe the idol is the manifestons of god in one of his creations who came on earth
@MrFreeze7005 well thats some people the demi gods and saint like figures themselves pray to supreme being we have a choice on who we pray too we cant see god but we try to feel god through his demi gods you muslims just assume something is there you never experience gods love for us
@jayd4ever your bhagvatgita itself says in 7:20 "dont pray to demi gods". nowhere in any veda does it say brahma has 4 heads or things like that....but many hindus believe it. first tell them God doesnt have any figure
@MrFreeze7005 sshuayb is mentioned in bible as Jethro and a prophet salah is mentioned in the hebrew bible as believed but mentioning saleh dont mean its true theres no proof of him existing and hudd is mentioned as eber in the bible so stop lying
@jayd4ever im not lying, you are....its you who is spreading false comments about islam......you are making assumptions to prove islam is fake...maybe, maybe, maybe....thats what you are saying. who said prophet shuaib is jethro?? does it even sound similar?? only people make up bullshit like this.....shuayb was an arabic prophet....so was hudd.....just because they share some common things doesnt mean they are the same person!!
@jayd4ever i can give you tons of facts to show quran is not copied from the bible....the quran also mentions thal kifl as a prophet, u cant find this name in the bible!! where does bible mention about zulqarnayn?? where does bible tell us about the story of solomon and bilkees?? where does bible tell us that solomon understood the speech of birds?? where does the bible mention about how mary was raised?? where does bible say that jesus spoke in the cradle or anything about his childhood? etc.
@jayd4ever tell the hindus first to believe only in one God before you speak shit about islam.....my hindu friend here is saying he believes in 3 gods....there are so many hindus like him....tell them the truth about your vedas
Dude go and challenge him
Memoonk 1 month ago
But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. - John 7:39
metallicstucco 2 months ago
that mn showed next day correct verse of bible zaikir naik came to christianity
sajidmunawer 2 months ago
"The Spirit of Truth that will be sent after Jesus leaves, can't be the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit was already there, so how can it be the Holy Spirit who's being sent?"
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
The Bible makes it clear that it is the Holy Spirit who will be sent after Jesus departs.
bluestucco 2 months ago
Where did Muhammad claim that he was the way, the truth or life? Only Jesus claimed this because he is.
jlmsuperman 2 months ago
@jlmsuperman Quran says that only the God is the truth and all mankind should go to the God to seek the truth. Jesus never claimed so. It is what they make for him that he said so
Tabarzen 2 months ago
ma·ḥă·mad·dîm, Song of Solomon 5:16
ma·ḥă·mad·dê, Lamentations 2:4 & Hosea 9:16
ma·ḥă·mad·de·hā, 2 Chronicles 36:19 & Lamentations 1:10
ma·ḥă·mad·dê·nū, Isaiah 64:11
ū·ma·ḥă·mad·day, Joel 3:5.
Study all of those and see if they all refer to Muhammad. Why does he only mention ma·ḥă·mad... being in Song of Solomon 5:16, when ..ma·ḥă·mad... is in so many other places? Maybe because in the other places it can't be construed as the name Muhammad? I dunno. Study it all yourself and find out.
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John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
Jesus is clearly saying that the Holy Spirit will be sent. If someone already exists, has already visited, he can be sent again. Sent to fulfill a new role. "Will Be Sent" There's no getting around that. Holy Spirit will be sent. Not flesh/man/prophet, but a Spirit being to dwell within and stay within man throughout the ages.
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@jayd4ever the biggest proof is that no one was able to produce anything like the quran....not even the most skilled arabic poet....even today, no one can produce anything like it. its considered as the highest form of arabic literature even today
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 that obvisously is a lie why would anybody be so mad to make a book about himself making a book only stupid people would try make a religious book
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever whatever i believe in is perfectly compatiable with the quran, vedas and also the bible
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 christians and muslims schlors had before calculated the earth to be just under 6000 years old hinduism showed to us civiliastion defintley existed possibly 10,000 or 1000,000 years ago its also gives a close value to what modern science which is 4.5 billion years ago so there are many mathematical and science facts in the vedas proving its the only truth 'And to those who were Jews We made unlawful all of those who have claws, and of oxen and sheep' this is error
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever the age of the universe is accurately given in the quran.....the speed of light is also accurately given in the quran.....what more do u want??
as for the veda mistakes....see atharvaved 12:1:11 "Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms" and yajurved 5:16 "earth is fixed with pegs around it"
also see yajurved 33:43 "O, man, the sun who is most attractive, takes round of the earth, on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth"
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 your probbly only muslim who says this i have spoken to other muslims and they said the quran doesnt mention it but islamic schlors have calulated 6000 years because in the quran it says a day is like 1000 years for god and it says god made the world in six days so 6000 years ago thats how they i think they thought and thats the reason why modern science said the earth is billion years old muslims and christians rejected this and already explained everything abuot the quotes
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever haha....christians?? the bible actually says earth was created in six 24 hr days!!!!! quran says in six days of that time.....not 24 hr. so christians were wrong at that.
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 it doesnt mention 24 hoursin the bible im just saying what your islam schlors said and found out before modern science proved them wrong and how does it equal 6 trillion days that depends actually now your just guessing
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever i showed you that video.....there were 3 scientific facts about embryology (miracles) which were discovered just 20 yrs ago.....impossible for an man to guess it 1400 yrs ago. still you dont consider it to be a scientific fact....LMAO!! the quran says moon has reflected light....another scientific fact discovered just recently......i can give you tons
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@jayd4ever that verse is just a mantra??? hahaha what a joke.....u mean to say mantra's are false?? why would some knowledgible person so unambiguously say earth is fixed with pegs??
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 it just describing the earth probably from rishis mind and you are trying to say what the islam says about earth and pegs is fake too
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever haha....what are you talking man?? quran never says earth is fixed with pegs!! the bible says, the veda says....but the quran says earth is floating in an orbit!!
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@jayd4ever its probably describing pegs as mountains and when it says fixed meaning stable and staionary so we can live on it so theres no error if it says this in the vedas but this is a mantra it probably is just saying god made the earth perfect
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever the bible does say 24 hr days.....the word "yom" in hebrew stands for a 24 hr period. the quran says six days of that time...The energy at the moment of the Big Bang slowed down the flow of time 10^12 times.....10^12 is a trillion
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@jayd4ever the quran just said universe was created in 6 days.When this period is calculated according to the relativity of time, it equates to six million million (six trillion) days. That is because universal time flows a million million times faster than time on Earth. Calculated in terms of years, 6 trillion days equates to approximately 16.427 billion years. This is within the estimated range for the age of the universe.
6,000,000,000,000 days/365.25 = 16.427104723 billion years
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@jayd4ever vishnu purana says that sun is 800,000 miles and moon is 2,200,000
miles away from the earth......i gave u 3 errors, all stated unequivocally
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
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@jayd4ever for pharoah's body....check out this video "watch?v=Hqtpj7EWaxk"
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 thats nothing to find salt in pharoh's body means nothing it doesnt mean that body drowned if you didnt know whhen they mummify pharohs they add salt thats where the salt came from and besides they dont even known which pharoh it is because the quran didnt want to get exposed
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever u have answered just one of my points....and that too not completely. The quran also predicted that pharaohs body will be preserved...bible didn't. They don't give his name bcoz both were books from god. I gave u tons of points...I can still give u tons more. now u say purana is not from god..ok...how does that prove hinduism is truth??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 it proves hinduism is the truth because all the facts i gave you werent from the purana i gave you from the vedas and the bhavisya purana was only made 1000 years ago unlike the other puranas so its the most unreliable im sure like you said muslims and christian must have added their own text into it and besides exodus is fictional the only evidence you have from the bible and quran is the existence of muhammed because you claim you have his clothes and his tomb but not other
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever muhammad is also prophecized in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13.....he is described as "narashansa".....translated as "praised one". even muhammad means praised one.....see Mantra 2- "He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven." and we know muhammad was a camel rider. so this prophecy again refers to none other than muhammad
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 if you dont know deserts exist in india too and how you dont know there was a rishi who rided a carmel?
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 and besides have they even found the pharoh's body and when he existed they havent found it
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever bible says moon has its own light, quran says moon has borrowed light....apart from that i gave u hundreds of proofs that quran isnt copied from bible.....i bet u cant answer all of them. u r in denial.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 i aledy answered all your questions everything is not copied i know but alot of it because if they were who would read the quran and many intelligent civilsations knew this muhammed probably got it from there and also the bible has extra prophets which the quran doesnt even mention
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever According to Manusmirti chapter 11 verse 202, "A Brahman is prohibited from riding a camel or an ass and to bathe naked, so that cant be an indian.....further....Mantra 3- "He is Mamah Rishi"..... No rishi in India or another Prophet had this name Mamah
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 so how does marnah mean muhammed we dont have only two rishis we have more than that
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever there is no rishi in india with the name of "mamah". and that too narashansa means praised one.....in arabic, muhammad. its all crystal clear!! and given 60000 enemies, we cant deny it......its 100% obvious.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever in the same verse, Mantra 1- "He is Narashansah or the praised one" He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60090 enemies......we know the population of mecca was around 60000...so this is obvious...its 100% its referring to muhammad!!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever there is no proof that quran is copied from the bible....no proof at all!! you are making assumptions and trying to kill 2 birds with one stone. there are prophets in the quran also which bible doesnt mention. bible has so many mistakes....quran doesnt have a single. bible says moon has its own light...quran says its borrowed. quran gives the speed of light....bible doesnt. the reason why there are similarities is because even the bible was from God once
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 im sure what your saying was said about the bible that no one can copy it but tthen look what happened the quran came and copied there's a reason why most of major religions came more than 1000 years ago there are prophets in the bible which are not mentioned in the quran both the bible and the quran have equal number of mistakes alot of things in the quran and the bible are fictional thes no proof or any historical evidence of it happening like no noah's ark,no exodus etc
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever we do have evidence of noahs ark......its found in turkey, and 99.9% confirmed. the bible says full earth was covered by water.....its impossible. but the quran says only part of the earth was covered....this is possible. so the quran was correct over there and the bible was wrong. this once again proves quran is not copied
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 stop lying theres no scientific or historical evidence to prove noah's ark is real same with the exodus and the same way you assume that quran has scientific facts so does the bible "It is He that . . . stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in." [40:22] this is saying the universe expanding and that space is empty is another verse
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever yes, the universe is expanding.....whats wrong in that?? and it nowhere does say space is empty.....even the vedas contain many mistakes, if u want i can point out tons
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 im just saying that bible also has assuming scientific facts so how does that prove quran is the only word of god
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever please show me mistakes in the vedas
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever bible was also the word of god once. thats why it has scientific facts....same for the vedas as well. all were books of god, but only the quran is preserved as God Himself says he will preserve it. mistakes in the vedas, do u really want?? im not here to spread hatred among hindus and muslims....infact i want the hindus to properly follow their vedas and believe in one God.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 okay that just proves you are one of the good muslim most muslims try to convert non muslims despite the errors ,unlogical stupid idea of the religion alot of muslims dont even follow the teachings except on eid and the vedas wasnt made by god it was made by rishi who were intelligent scientists,schlors they had high knowledge and had the power to communicate with god so even if you do find a error that verrse probably wasnt by god but i doubt it you could
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever if there is even one mistake in the vedas, its no longer a reliable source. we cant consider it perfect.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 the vedas doesnt have any mistakes the mistakes you think that are there are probably describing something else and quran has mistakes and it has no scientific facts alot of claims like keepin pharoh,noahs ark etc havent been found yet theres no proof historical evidence no mention and alot of it isnt something new alot of intelligent civilisation knew science and maths like the hindus,chinese and the greeks
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever there is not a single scientific error in the quran.....not a single. i challenge you. and noah's ark has been found in turkey....there is evidence. there are hundreds of scientific miracles in the quran.....science has discovered them only today
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 no it isnt stop lying i have seen all the proofs its not certain they assume its there and quran has no scientific facts only description so believe what ou want but to me islam is nothing just belief
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever quran doesnt have any scientific facts??? hahahahahaha....just check out this video "watch?v=RjKGlNVmnqc"
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 thats not really scientific fct many knew about embrynology but no one knew enough about genes and dna and the quran doesnt go in detail it just describes so there was no relvations there
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever thats not a scientific fact??? hahaha...what a joke. man, it was discovered just 25 yrs ago. was that person so foolish, he reverted to islam by just watching that video
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 ok earlier civilisations knew but many dont believe it like the concept of gravity was known by hindus but the western world didnt mention it andd said newtorn discovered which isnt true and there are many more examples
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 HE CHALLENGE YOU TO SHOW ANY MISTAKE IN VEDA, BUT HE DIDNT ANSWER MY 3 QUESTION ?????!!!!!!
TheAbahaziz 3 months ago
@TheAbahaziz. I didn't show him the mistakes since I didn't want a flame war....but since u have already shown him now.......let's see. I proved to him the prophecy of muhammad in the vedas and bible...he still doesn't accept
According to wiki statistics, hinduism has negative growth....islam is fastest.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@TheAbahaziz it says the Average distance between earth and sun = 108 times the sun's diameterAverage distance between earth and moon = 108 times the moon's diameter The moon's diameter is 2159 mi, and 108 x 2159 = 233,172 and a schlor was able to get a close value to speed of light using the vedas so vedas are the truth and most of what you claim are from bhavisya purana which is the most unreliable purana
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 that guy probably alread was a muslim
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever No scientific facts ok you won but I accept you win, this debate only if you go on Google and see what teh Historians found out... Quran was over 1400 yrs ago these are Historians. Also i'll give you the video please watch it if you are truthful...
/watch?v=TiLBGHwX_4c
ninjamasterbro 3 months ago
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MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@ninjamasterbro hahaha he is still in denial....on top of that he says quran is copied from bible
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever DO YOU REALLY READ THE VEDA....... VEDA SAY 1.THE EARTH IS STATIC. 2. SUN IS NEARER TO EARTH THAN THE MOON. 3. SUN MOVES AROUND THE EARTH ON GOLDEN CHARIOT WITH SEVEN HORSES. I HAVE MANY MORE FOR YOU...........
TheAbahaziz 3 months ago
@TheAbahaziz NO USE ARGUE WITH HINDUISM. THEY ARE AMONG THE FEW RELIGION THAT ARE SHRINKING.MILLION S OF ITS FOLLOWER ARE TURNING TO CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM. THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES ARE GOING INTO VILLAGES WITH BAGS OF MONEY TO CONVERT THE POOR ILLITERATE HINDUS.
TheAbahaziz 3 months ago
@TheAbahaziz i have already shown real quotes proving vedas is the most compatible religion with science and i know that that how islam and christianity grew it was by forrce and no millions are changed it either by brainwashing them or converting by force and it only happens in few areas and islam is growing by 0.8-1.2% while islam is little higherr
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever hinduism is growing while islam is little higher arounnd 2%
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever this guy already showed you some mistakes in the vedas.....can u answer them??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 I GIVE UP....... HOW TO DEBATE WITH A PERSON WHO HAVING SO MANY VEDAS??? WHEN YOU PUT A POINT ,HE SAID OH THAT IS FROM THAT VEDA.... AND THAT VEDA IS WEAK ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT...... !!!!! AND WHEN YOU PUT A POINT FROM THE "STRONG" VEDA..... I BELIEVE WILL SAY THAT "STRONG " VEDA IS WEAK IN THIS PARTICULAR POINT......!!!!! YOU WILL GOING ROUND AND ROUND ON GOLDEN CHARIOT PULL BY 7 HORSES LIKE THE SUN !!!!!
TheAbahaziz 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz haha
MrFreeze7005 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz that quote is a manta believe it or not its just describing there is nothing scientific here so your not proving i already explain what it mean
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever SINCE YOUR BOOKS CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER, I THINK WASTE OF TIME TO PROCEED. THANK YOU.
TheAbahaziz 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz it doesnt contradict this wasnt ascientific fact it was a mantra just describing and your assuming its say exactly what universe is like just like how you muslims claims your quran has scientific facts when it doesnt and it was made by different rishis
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz okay first there many vedas and in many parts vedas they say opposite like it says the earth revolves around and the quote is describing this is not sciencthis actually saying the sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”and about seven horses its describing The way seven rays of sun carry its illumination across the world like horses of a chariot
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz and where it says let us walk on this static earth it is actually saying May we travel all around the earth that provides us prosperity, nutrition, medicines and supports us in a variety of ways its describing and theres a word called dhruva means providing support which we know the earth support us to live on there are many scientific facts like The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction. rig veda
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@TheAbahaziz there is also a quote about other planets and secrets about universe was not known in the earlier civilisations unlike islam's false claims the only thing people before muhammed thought was there was only moon,earth and the sun and nothing else the vedas proves us wrong by talking about other life forms and other planets and other planets like earth only god could have known this
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@jayd4ever just watch this video "watch?v=XNVnPiU7aGo".....a scientific study proves quran is the word of god, but the bible is altered.......bible has many mistakes but the quran doesnt have a single. the reason they share similarities is bcoz even the bible was once God's word. plus apart from the vedas, muhammad is prophecized in the bible in several places....this makes it obvious that he will be a prophet and that quran is God's word
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
watch my videos to see how easy it is to refute and expose this guy
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JesusOrMuhammad 3 months ago
ok so u guys say Jesus and Muhammad are both messengers of God. So how come even Muhammad was uncertain of his own salvation?
MrRandomppl 3 months ago
Dr. Naik Made a mistake in quoting the Bible it is John Chapter 16:12 please thumbs so everyone can see
TheFourNobleTruths2 4 months ago
christians never said he was god he said he was son of god which is different and second all you converted christians and muslims get back to your roots your getting brainwashed your ancestors were likely all hindus most good christians and muslims admit this GETBACK!
jayd4ever 4 months ago
@jayd4ever
Yes, there are christians that jesus was god himself. Yet, some believe that he was son of god. Which one is true? who is right, catholics, or protestants, orthodox or presbyterian? which one is the real word of god, luke or john. It is hard for christians to except this fact, but your religion is the work of man
Mohammed77757 3 months ago
@Mohammed77757 work of a man? so is yours both christinanity and islam aer fake
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever
If islam is not the word of god, than how do you explain all the recently discovered scientific facts that are stated with such accuracy and detail in the qur'an? or the prophecies that came true? I am very much willing to prove the qur'an to be the word of god, can you prove otherwise?
Mohammed77757 3 months ago
@Mohammed77757 you do realise so many scientific facts wre discovered by greeks,hindus and the chinese alot of what we know is because of them but it was kept secret from western world unlike now and if you didnt know meccans use to trade with the indians and other countries that existed so your scientific claims dont mean anything and prophecies i dont know what prophecises you talking about but other religions have also propheticed and is yet to come true but its all belief
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever These are scientific facts that people never knew or believed at the time: such as the fact that the earth is geo-spherical, the big bang, specific stages of the embryo. The prophecies include that the muslims would conquer the roman and persian empires [which is like saying that you will conquer 2 countries like america], and surgical alteration.
Mohammed77757 3 months ago
@Mohammed77757 actually there were other civilisations that knew about the earth being spherical but western world didnt know about this and the idea of gravity was made by hindus but the western world lied and said newton came up with it and stages of embryo were known by greeks before islam existed and big bang dont know but islam doesnt say anything about it muslims are against the big bang or evolution while hindus,buddhist etc accept it and the vedas prophetcised queen victoria
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@Mohammed77757 islam is fake it says the universe was made in 6 days, we can talk to ants, the sun sets on muddy waters, the earth is flat and so much more
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever
Universe was made in 6 days: It was made in god's days, not our 24 hour days
We can talk to ants: The qur'an says that prophet sulayman could talk to them, not us.
the sun sets on muddy waters: It is a misinterpretation, it actually means he followed the direction the sun was setting in, and when it set, he came upon a place with muddy water.
Earth is flat: were did you get that? it says clearly in surtax al- shams, the earth is geo-sherical.
Mohammed77757 3 months ago
@Mohammed77757 yeah you assume and make up your lies just read dont assume something to make how you know the quran is just the earth is like a carpet which is flat and clearly states the sun sets on muddy water dont assume that it say he followed it and saw muddy water so many errors in quran
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever u still think the same nonsense?? hav some common sense dude......i gave u answers for that. earth is like a carpet means the crust of the earth is comfortable like a carpet so that u can walk on it....it never mentioned flat. and sun setting in muddy water = LMAO!!!!!! u havent even read the verse properly. it was describing what appeared to zulqarnayn. stop spreading lies about islam
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 fuck you terrorist you making up lies you cant make up your own assumations when its says earth is like carpet and if what you are saying is true the quran has no scientific facts its just description of what happened with the prophets
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever dude, im not a terrorist.....dont use insulting language. earth(crust) is "like a carpet"....not "carpet shaped".....i hope u can understand the difference. the quran clearly gives that day and night wrap around the earth like a turban.....so the writer of the quran knew the earth is round......and haha.....u were speaking about some muddy water thing??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 give me the exact quote
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever "He has created the Heavens and the Earth for Truth. He wraps the night up in the day, and wraps the day up in the night." (39:5).....the arabic word used is "takwir" which is used for the way a turban is wrapped around the head. furthermore, a carpet neednt necessarliy be flat, it can even be wrapped around a curved surface......and that muddy water thing is LMAOOOOO!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 well really that is just describing that the earth has night and day which we all know and im sure the people at that time knew that too and why would the wrap up a carpet and if you do they dont wrap it up in a round shap normally the carpet is flat but that sure isnt a could quote for the earth being spherical and about muddy waters if you says they were describing what the prophet saw how did the prophet see it set when it never does and espically not onto muddy waters
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever it said day and night wraps into each other.....like a turban!! that means the writer of the quran knew the earth was round, otherwise why would he use the word "takwir"?? the earth's crust is spread like a carpet so that U CAN WALK OVER IT. its given in the same verse itself. a carpet is generally laid over a place which is rough, if the earths crust wasnt there u wouldnt be able to walk over it
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 so really the quran is just description it has no scientific facts because intelligent civilasatio knew all of this befor islam existed.
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever if u say Muhammad forged the quran, then the challenge for u lies in the quran itself!!!!! just produce or point out a single sura that the quran has....a single!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 why not i could create the best religion by copying all the religion before me and change the flws to something that make sense but im not stupid god is watching muhammed was a demon and i think the quran has been altered many times and eeven if it isnt it dont mean anything is still fake
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever muhammad was a demon??? my ass!!! he was a prophet accoring to the bible, torah and even your vedas and puranas!! quran cant be altered bcoz it has been byhearted by so many people across the world.....and do u really think muhammad wrote the quran?? do u even know??? muhammad was an illiterate....and the quran is the highest form of arabic literature on earth EVEN TODAY
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 and also Sura 20:53 "He who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out" and then he had mountains as pegs so quran says the earth is expanse so flat earth and also its says that muhammed split the moon but there is no evidence of nearby persia or syria reporting a split moon and it doesnt mention how it got back together and besides it would be impossible there would be so much destruction to the waves as the vedas states
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever how many times do i have to tell u carpet neednt be only flat?? it can be spread out even over a sphere!! just like the earths crust is!! its like a carpet so that u can walk on it. btw still some scholars translate it as "he made the earth egg shaped"......arabic is a multi meaning language, so stop nitpicking on one word alone. and LMAOOO!!! the moon splitting was a miracle dude!!! God can do miracles!! God helped muhammad split the moon and also helped him put it back
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 yeah but you dont need a carpet to walk on it and carpet being a sphere need too much detail why would wrap a carpet when its made to be flat on the floor and you said it all arabic is multi meaning language so you cant assume something when it doesnt even say that and the quran doesnt say that god put moon back together and no one else saw it beside muhammed and his followers so fake
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever the quran doesnt give u scientific equations about everything....it just says it through a notion.....here it meant, the inner layers of the earth are hostile to life so the crust(the earth/ground we stand on) is spread like a carpet SO THAT WE CAN WALK. the exact translation is "and we made the earth as a carpet SO THAT YOU CAN WALK OVER IT"...its like a carpet so that u can walk.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever The splitting of the moon was demonstrated before a certain gathering who contradicted the Prophet Muhammad in his cause as an evidence of his prophethood. there were obstacles which prevented the others from seeing it, such as mist, clouds and time differences. Besides, at that time science and civilization were not yet well advanced so the observation of the sky was limited. There was nothing to necessitate that it should have been seen all over the world
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 okay like you said its multi meaning so you just assuming from yourt own thoughts that is what quran saysand the moon should have been seen by nearby countries like persia,syria etc but theres no mention about it anywhere in history and besides it would be impossible and let me give you example they say that when jesus was being crucified there were earthquakes there is historical evidence of earth quakes or some sort in israel near that time but we cant be exact
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever Also see Bhavishya Purana 3:1:3:21-23
"Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 and quran says there are 124.000 prophets but they only mention the prophets from the bible why is that why dont they mention entirely new prophets except muhammed who made the quran and yes about the earthquake but im giving description and a earth quake is like the moon spliting it must have been done by god there other historical evidence of a earthquake happening in isreael near the time of jesus but that doesnt mean its true but its that other peole felt it
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever that earthquake was not a miracle....but the moon being put back was!! with the technology we have today we can find out that the earthquake occured.....but moon splitting cant!! thats bcoz it was put back exactly as it was before splitting.......and obviously quran is not copied from the bible bcoz the quran clearly states jesus christ DID NOT DIE on the cross. i can even give you proof from the bible to support this claim
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 'There was a mystic demon named Tripura (Tripurasura), whom I have already burnt to ashes once before, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the evil ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified' this states mahmada or ahmad was a demon a evil person and if you think this become hindu it prophecised
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever that word used for "evil demon" is "maleccha".....but wait.....maleccha can also mean a foreigner.....some hindus take the wrong meaning of this and make a fake translation just bcoz they dont want to accept the fact......btw muhammad is also prophecized in the bible....song of solomon 5:16 he is mentioned by NAME. this cant be anyone else!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 yeah but it could also mean a foreigner that is a demon amd in song of soloan that wasnt muhammed to call someone lovely it doesnt mean its muhammed it doesnt even mention him and do you claim muhammed had a lover again stop assuming things and the earth does move it rotates and moves around the sun so its not fixed as the quran claims so wrong again and so now your saying the quran copied some of the vedas we dont only have one vedas we have many written by rishis who talk to god
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever stop giving excuses dude, read in HEBREW..."hikko mamittaki we kullo MUHAMMADIM".....he is mentioned by name!! it cant refer to anyone else....for FULL 100% PROOF "watch?v=1t7rxoKwYRo". its said that the maleccha will defeat the enemy...so its not a wicked person or demon. that translation u gave was fake
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 nothing i said was fake its all facts you muslims assume things we dont have one book like your book we have many made by rishis not god but they had the power to communicate with god and i dont understand hebrew but the translation dont mention muhammed you just assume because millions would have realised it by now but no one has and whats the enemy i thought muhammed was peaceful he was evil and demon so believe what you want it wont change the fact islam is fake in so many ways
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever dude, muhammad is translated as lovely.....that person cant be anyone other than muhammad....watch the vid i told you. muhammad is a demon? my ass!! he has already fulfilled 50% of the prophecy given in your books....the other half we dont know....maleccha can mean demon as well as foreigner. its YOU WHO IS ASSUMING THINGS. 50% of that prophecy is fulfilled.....you people dont like islam so u start assuming muhammad is a demon.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever islam is not proven fake.....to prove it fake Almighty God himself challenges you in the quran.....2:23 "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides God, if your (doubts) are true."
.....even the most skilled arabic poets at that time failed to produce anything like the quran......and you think an illiterate man produced it?? haha
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
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@jayd4ever Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy 18:18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
christians say it refers to jesus....but the only prophet that we know who was like moses is muhammad!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 also the why dont they mention the pharoh by name because they knew the religions would be proven fake as the time period would be wrong and also if you claim moses was muslim and islam existed because muhammed then why isnt there any historical evidence of it existing before muhammed relly islam was just a small religion for meccans like muhammed and then it grew by muhammed's followers forcing millions to convert and then it grew and why are there more jews then muslims in israel
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever you are asking why, why, why??....why doesnt it mentionany other prophets, apart from the bible...thats a dumb reason to say islam is fake....thats no reason at all....haha
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 well it does islam says there are 124,000 prophets sent by god but god only knew about 24 of them all of them being in the bible just proves islam is copied from christianity and stop lying thats impossible to prove he was ilterate there is no proof he was and whats so beautiful about the arabic language its just a language spoken by arabian and im sure no one tried to copy the quran because people are no evil and brainwashed like muhammed
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever dude thats no reason for quran being fake.....God knew about the other prophets.....just because he hasnt mentioned it doesnt mean it has been copied.....the challenge lies in front of you, if not the whole quran, just produce one SINGLE chapter like it.....A SINGLE!! not even the most qualified arabic poets were able to do it. im not saying arabic is a beautiful language...i said the quality of language used in the QURAN is beautiful
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 okay what do want me produce about?
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever just having one book doesnt mean the religion is fake....your logic just eats itself up, big time!! if you want, even i can prove hinduism is fake an vedas have mistakes....but i wont. im here just for peace, and i want people to understand their own religion. i want hindus to follow all that is common between hinduism and islam. you are not supposed to do idol worship....so all those IDOLS you make of vishnu, shiva, ganesha...are fake gods...vedas say God is one withoout a second
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 dont teach me my religion and muhammed knew it would be hard for people to follow his lie so he asked his followers to write it that so it seems believable and how you know he was illterate i can write in a book say im illterate too and some years people would say i was illterate and idol worshipping is man made it just ways some people find comfortable praying too and we dont pray to the idol we pray to god through the idol and vedas is not one book
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever LMAOOOOOOOO!!!! seriously wtf dude?? hav u even read the quran and the hadith?? seriously im asking you??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever the "hadith" was written by the companions of the prophet....not the quran. have you even seen the type of language in the quran and hadith?? there is a world of a difference between them!!! the challenge lies in front of you....Almighty God himself challenges you in the Quran.....just produce something like it.....just one sura(chapter).
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever historical evidences have proved that muhammad was illiterate....and even if he wasnt, no human being can produce such a beautiful language that the quran does NOT EVEN THE MOST SKILLED ARABIC POETS.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 if i can find one error in the quran one book its fake we have many books written by rishis who were inteligent scientists not god they talked when they couldnt understand something but we dont know which passage is from god and which is from the knowledge of the rishis and why doesnt islam mention any of other 124,000 prophets instead it only mentions the jewish and christian and prophets because muhammed didnt know any other prophets islam is fake end of discussion
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever yes, there is not a single error in the quran......if you want even i can point out several errors in your vedas.....it will directly prove hinduism is fake if i can point even one error. but im not here for that
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 islam is a religion it not a way of life like hinduism islam is just belief it just describes things it dont have scientific facts and as hinduism has many scientific facts which is the only religion compatible with science i wouldnt say its 100% real because alot of science and maths was known by early intelligent people like they rishis and they had some idea without them we wouldnt have all the modern sciences we have now religion is belief not science and hinduism is oldest
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever who said islam is not a way of life?? LMAO!! you dont even know such a basic thing about islam?? the quran itself says islam is a way of life and it clearly shows you how to live.....and oldest doesnt mean its true. its only 4000 years old. what about before that?? there was no religion before that 4000 yrs??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 the conceptsof hinduism existed over 10,000 years and you muslims say why do you worship idols you muslims worship black stone and that holy water in mecca so you cant say anything im sure god didnt say kiss my black stone and put germs on it or walk around it 7 times like your getting married
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever HAHAHAHAHA!!! LMAOOOOOO!! who told you muslims worship the black stone or holy water?? u dont even know that?? seriously LMAOO!! thats already an outdated joke, cmon. going 7 times around it doesnt mean u r worshipping it....it just purifies your soul and removes your sins. hindus believe bathing in ganges will remove their sins, so does it mean they are worshipping the river??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever look at your own vedas......"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste" "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship created things." [Yajurveda 40:9]7
so before speaking against islam, first tell your hindu brothers not to worship natural things(trees, fire, water,air, etc) and also created things(idols). also tell the hindu polytheists to believe in just one god
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 where did you hear those lies and why do ou keep repeating the samethings over and over again like the way some of your muslims keep terrorising people and we dont worship idols are we that stupid? we worship god through the idols and we dont worship trees,fire,water etc we believe theres holy water just like you muslims in mecca so hypocrite and let me give you example of how you muslims assume things it says sink depper in darkness how did a human know it become dark when you go
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever yes, the puranas and vedas may have been the word of God...i agree....but the ones we have today are not the original ones...several changes have been made to it and it does contain mistakes.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 how dont yuo know the quran has been altered the vedas might be orginal one because many have memorised the vedas word for word
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever Why is it that the Bible tells us that pharaoh did not drown, and the Quran tells us that he drowned, but Allah left his body as a sign to mankind. when they dissected pharaoh’s body, they found out that his body had too much salt inside it. you say the Quran is copied from the Bible? you are ignorant! Read the Quran 10:92.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 everything isnt copied obviously but most of it is if it was exact samething no one would believe it and no one would read it the bible says the water covered the pharoh and his army so he drowned but it doesnt say about the body being kept but they still havent found the salt body of the pharoh and we donnt know which pharoh it was and noah ark hasnt been found its belief and i dont know everything about the bible word for word because i havent read it but there have been compared
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever noah's ark has been found, who said it hasnt?? it has been found in turkey. and they did find the salt in pharoah's body when they dissected it.....i have given you tons of proofs to prove my point.....i can even give u more if u want
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 they are still looking for noah's ark around turkey as the bible ciaims and thers no scientific evidence and if they found the pharoh's body who was the pharoh give me all proofs
jayd4ever 3 months ago
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@jayd4ever Yeung Wing-Cheung, from the Noah's Ark Ministries International research team, said: "It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it."...........i gave u several other proofs...for ex Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood ?.....u r in denial. just bcoz u dont like islam u cant keep speaking against it and telling its fake
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever Why is it that the Bible tells us that Moses was adopted by Pharaoh’s daughter, and the Quran tells us it was Pharaoh’s wife? Where does the Bible mention Luqmaan? Why doesn’t the Bible mention that Noah had two wives?? one was disobedient, and she died. And another which was saved.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever why does the bible say the water covered the entire earth during the time of noah?? and why does quran say only part of the earth was flooded??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood ? The town of Thamoud has been discovered in Saudi Arabia–it’s located in a place called Mada-in Saleh. And recently, the town of Aad has been discovered with the help of NASA’s satellites??
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever Why does the Bible say that Noah’s ark is in Ararat but it was discovered in Al-Judyy, as the Quran says so?
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever The Quran details embryology, why doesnt the Bible? the Quran mentions the names of the gods during Noah’s time in Surat Nuuh, why aren’t those names present in the Bible? Why does the Bible encourage Bribery in Proverbs 17, and the Quran never encourages such thing?
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever (contd) the Quran hasnt been altered.....the quran also has been memorised word to word!!....go anywhere in the world, you'll find just one Quran!! Almighty God himself says in the Quran that He will protect it until the day of judgement. As the Qur’an (Ch. 21, V. 18) advises us:
“When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish”.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 deeper now im not stupid and dont assume im sure there were intelligent minds who knew this at that time its not scientific fact its something most would know
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever instead of telling everyone here islam and christianity are fake, first tell your hindu brothers who believe in hundreds of gods....some hindus even believe human beings are god, some of them even believe in something called goddess, some of them even believe god really looks like the idol.....go tell them first what to do before you speak lies about islam. end it here
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 we dont believe in hundreds of god we believe in one true god but we pray to his demi gods also because they have similar power to god and why isnt it possible to for god to mainfest in his own creation like you said god can do anything and goddess are like saints,teachers and demi gods but we dont know what they look like people just assume that by drawing a image its man made and some believe the idol is the manifestons of god in one of his creations who came on earth
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever dude, your bhagvadgita clearly says in chapter 7:20 "dont pray to demi gods".....but many hindus do it.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 well thats some people the demi gods and saint like figures themselves pray to supreme being we have a choice on who we pray too we cant see god but we try to feel god through his demi gods you muslims just assume something is there you never experience gods love for us
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever your bhagvatgita itself says in 7:20 "dont pray to demi gods". nowhere in any veda does it say brahma has 4 heads or things like that....but many hindus believe it. first tell them God doesnt have any figure
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever you said quran doesnt mention any new prophets apart from the bible...you were wrong...
Where does the Bible mention Prophet Saleh ?
Where does the Bible mention Prophet Huud ?
Where does the Bible mention Prophet Shu’ayb ?
C'mon, your claims about quran being fake has been proved wrong
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@MrFreeze7005 sshuayb is mentioned in bible as Jethro and a prophet salah is mentioned in the hebrew bible as believed but mentioning saleh dont mean its true theres no proof of him existing and hudd is mentioned as eber in the bible so stop lying
jayd4ever 3 months ago
@jayd4ever im not lying, you are....its you who is spreading false comments about islam......you are making assumptions to prove islam is fake...maybe, maybe, maybe....thats what you are saying. who said prophet shuaib is jethro?? does it even sound similar?? only people make up bullshit like this.....shuayb was an arabic prophet....so was hudd.....just because they share some common things doesnt mean they are the same person!!
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever i can give you tons of facts to show quran is not copied from the bible....the quran also mentions thal kifl as a prophet, u cant find this name in the bible!! where does bible mention about zulqarnayn?? where does bible tell us about the story of solomon and bilkees?? where does bible tell us that solomon understood the speech of birds?? where does the bible mention about how mary was raised?? where does bible say that jesus spoke in the cradle or anything about his childhood? etc.
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago
@jayd4ever tell the hindus first to believe only in one God before you speak shit about islam.....my hindu friend here is saying he believes in 3 gods....there are so many hindus like him....tell them the truth about your vedas
MrFreeze7005 3 months ago