i realy hate a english accent with the roman generals. Normly the accent is fine but for this its just stuipid, i think an american accent would be better, still doesnt realy matter.
@PretentiousPainters American accents are completely out of place in historical movies. It makes the entire movie fail automatically. I speak with a North American accent myself but in a historical setting, it just doesn't work.
@PretentiousPainters and by the way, the "roman generals" as you say arent usually using an English accent. They are speaking English with no accent whatsoever. It just sounds English who has never heard non-accented English.
@fistfulofknowledge True. God sometimes uses equally terrible nations to bring His justice to nations. He used the Spaniards to bring down the Aztecs, the Philistines to punish the Israelites, and the Israelites to bring down the Cannanites, and many nations to bring down the nazis etc.
I came into this documentary with high hopes, but I was turned off by the cringe-inducing dialogue. TV documentaries can never compare to good books on any subject.
Yea if hannibal had more men, he would own italia lol, thats why the world is still retared all those fat old chubby world leaders are the dumbest people on the face of the earth, they all mak these retared decisions.
That's questionable, just look at how none of Rome's allies broke with Rome to side with Hannibal even when Hannibal owned the Romans in battle after battle. One general and one army aren't enough to win a war of attrition, and that's what it would have boiled down to (Hannibal never tried to take Rome because he, to his credit, knew he couldn't.)
They don`t wear armour because these are the roman republican soldiers. The less armoured was the hastatii, and those are who we can see here. I miss the princeps in that film, those who wore the coat of mail at that time. And the last studies affirm the romans not necesarily wore on red. Red was an expensive pigment!
@Memogin The armor and clothes in this video are much more plausible than in any other historical documentaries I've seen. Red was not a cheap dye and dyes tended to fade into grayer colors that you see in the uniforms in the video. Armor was expensive and Romans rarely used chain mail at this time: "lorica segmentata" would be issued a hundred years later.
"Nothing like an enemy to keep the plebs in control"?'' How just like the Americans who needed the communists then the terrorists as bogie man.
So after America started its drunken rampage across the world after 9/11, "in the name of civilization" and for the glory of the Roman (read American) people I lost all respect for America and for Ancient Rome.
Rome was filfth, and it fell justly.
And it was filth as ALL empires are evil BY DEFINITION
Really? The Chinese Empire REMAINS, it's just taken a different form. Chairman Mao is no different from the first Chinese Emperor. The problem with the USA stems from WWII when FDR (jerk) allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed, to get the USA to war. The trend continued to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... The USA is full of warmonger politicians (GOP & Democrats alike). Americans need to stopped supporting either side and bring in a 3rd Party (by the people & for the people).
@CroPETROforever If you take into consideration the fact that Islamic values are not compatible at all with the values of the civilized, skeptical, world you would see that the "evil muslim terrorists" didn't need to be created at all.
@MrsFreshMorning of course it was. In fact they were more civilized than the Medieval Christians in my opinion. But that doesn't pertain to the modern world.
@TheDavid2222 -- It takes a special kind of willful conceit to show-off pretentious, boorish ignorance -- What you know about Islam MIGHT fill about half of a small post-it note. Islam greatly influenced modern science & mathematics, Rennaissance, Reformation, technology from metallurgy & agriculture to irrigation & medicine, philosophy, geography, exploration, map-making, Jurisprudence & Academy. You sound like a shill for tyrants & corporate rulers who 'sold' one monstrous fraud after another.
@starmanskye I just said that they "were" more advanced than us. I'm sorry but it doesn't take all that much knowledge to see that Islam,or any other desert dogmas, are detrimental to civilization. I have nothing against Persian or Arabic peoples. They have a rich history. I do have a problem with Judaism, Islam, and Christianity though.
@starmanskye Islam greatly influenced modern science & mathematics, Rennaissance, Reformation, technology from metallurgy & agriculture to irrigation & medicine, philosophy, geography, exploration, map-making, Jurisprudence & Academy.
Are you living in a fantasy dream-world? Islam of today only wants to throw civilisation back into the stone age. There are no words to describe your stupidity.
@CroPETROforever Now we understand why history is very important and should be held as the uptmost of importance in schools. Underanding our history prevents as from making mistakes. But hence as humans we never learn from our past and keep repeating our mistakes. Although we have advanced technology wise, greed and power still rule the world
@cohenrubin it took them 2 years to dismantle the entire city stone by stone. it made such terror towards other settlements that rome beseiged that many in the following greek wars just surrendered when they beseiged them.
There are so many interesting parallels between Ancient Rome and the United States of today; the most powerful military machine and a culture and language that is succesfully exported globally.
Rome's decline started because the 'apple' that looked fresh and juicy to the observer was in reality rotting from the inside out.
the narrator states that even then Rome was "sowing the seeds of it's own destruction" ha ha, only after another 500 years of dominance. give me a break. as far as empires go, they had a bloody good run!
perhaps...but dont think so-there is no history that shows they did that to anywhere they may have conquered not even when Hannibal was kickin their ass he didnt do that to the places he conquered in italy. oh well-they got what they desereved in the end.
Just my opinion but maybe if the Americans didn't act like they were the best thing in the world maybe everyone wouldn't hate them and want to go to war with them in the first place. The U.S. should be recruiting peacekeepers and ambassadors not soldiers and war-mongers.
As hard as it may be for you to accept, not all americans support the war even though we also happ[en to be military veterans. You missunderstand Us just like the rest of the Moronic Hippie-lovin' losers. We Americans support Our troops even if we do not nessarily support the Our gov'ts reasons for the war. There's a difference nimrod.
Most Americans like Myself do not Consider ourselves "better" than everyone else. The difference is that we acknowledge the fact that with those who have much, much will be expected.
It's not morally right to stand by with our thumbs up our asses while tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, or whoever decide to take advantage of the rest of you who are weak. We helped France, Germany, Japan & other countries after we resolve conflict.
Both in Peacetime & in War we have helped countries such Indonesia after the tsunami, & haiti after the earthquake...& I would like to beleive we would do so again..Yeah we have arrogant ass-holes in our country, but who does'nt ??? The U.S. should not be represented by just these few arrogant ass-holes, even though you & the rest of the world would love to believe this, & see us suffer another ttagedy by dicks who hate for no reason...
what are you talking about???the americans did not want to get involved in ww2 ...ooops maybe the iranians venezuelians,chinese nigerians french isralis argentinians japanese koreans pakistanis egyptians brazilians are much better than the americans thats why they are so loved ...maybe just by you...when you say americans is good to remember that even after the war ...japan..and west europe still are the most developed nations in the world
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Soldiers and wars today are irrelevant. Unless you wish to increase profits for corporations, then it's okay to murder babies and old women. After all, gotta watch out for those dang "terrorists", don't ya know.................Quick!!! There's a dark-skinned mama and her baby scooping water from an Iraqi mud puddle---kill them!!!!
dude fu ck you My family for generations has served in the US military including myself my own brother died for your freedom. You ungrateful fuck I like to see you show half as much courage you sick lazy ass coward you have no Idea what sacrifice is. I risk my life for people like you and people in other countries. You people are so fucking sick.
@monchikaable You are a brainwashed assassin...nothing more. And your brother didn't have to die "for my freedom",,,he got played, for I have always been free, and I will die free. Your brother threw away his life for a false notion. See ya............
there is something seriously wrong with you if you been to other counties and really first hand seen whats happend first hand ... your the brain washed one there is no way you ever served in any millitary
@monchikaable Wow. You're so smart. You seem to know everything. What are you doing on Youtube wasting your talents? You should be curing cancer or securing world peace with Clinton, Bush, or Obama. Fucking moron. MURDERING COWARD.
It seems like the producers took care to reflect the historical accuracy of the unniform. More then likely the soldiers were lightly armoured because the roman army in those days was not a professionnal army yet.
the "fight" against Carthage 146BC was actually a slaughter of Civilians by the Romans. they killed the whole population in the city. the "hard fight in the streets" were mainly civilians fighting for their lifes.
Soldiers don't know the difference when worked up. Everyone is capable of barbarities. The Irish Kerns used to cut off heads and hang babies from their horses. I always want to tear someones head off when I get mad. LOL
I agree with you on trying to spare Constatinople from the turks but..... at that time period ( 1453 ) the Byzantine Empire was reduced to a few cities in power. The once powerful empire was a shell of its earlier glory, wrought with corruption, betrayels and greed. The Turks were growing powerful and would only have to wait a little while longer for the Byzantines to lose out completely...i mean even their trade was blockaded...Byzantium had no military or navy in the end.
They still had a army and navy but not as strong as in glory days not even a bit but they still gather a 7 thousand strong army and the last emperor fougth like a true roman
we've got a great leader called gordon brown. ain't he good enough to those leaders back then? im sure hed survive and not get killed back then by his peers.
@mkfk1 That is because people in the film industry lack imagination and they ripped that argument, which has been an accusation made against the US on a variety of occasions, straight from modern times. It was not a vein of thought in the Roman times, as far as I ever read.
Then again, no major politician in the United States has ever claimed it as his opinion and the accusation is still levelled against them...
totally agree that romans didn't look like this. in fact, if we were to believe the founding legend of rome, then they surely would look less pale, if they really were trojan exiles from the trojan war (modern day turkey).
however, one must understand that this series mainly has an english-speaking audience, and therefore uses english-fluent actors
Regardless of their founding legends, the fact that they lived in Italy means that they would have interbred with dark-skinned Italians, making them look tanned.
Right, who was whiter than the Brittons, the word "Angel" is from the Latin word Angle, meaning pale or fair, the Romans were made up of many different people, Sabines joined the young city, reluctantly of course then the Latin tribes. She was for sure the Anciant worlds melting pot. Romes break from Etruscan rule is the classic tale though, one noble Etrscan king earns great praise, he was Servius Tullius, he laid the foundations for both Rome's armies and sewed the seeds for the Republic.
Don't forget, The Etruscans intermingled with other peoples, such as latins, sabines and others form the surrounding regions. It has been proven that the Etruscans did come from Asia minor, were they from Troi, who knows? Strangely, Etruscan artwork does not indicate an accurate timeframe, no written history was ever unearthed to prove as to where the Etruscans really hailed from, although DNA seems to be very accurate..
The faction in RTW that had the worst anachronistic misrepresentation was Egypt, It looked like they were from the Nineteenth dynasty in the 1100 B.C.E. when in fact the Egypt Ptolemaic dynasty was macedonized , They Would have used armies equipped and styled like those of Greece.
The portrayal of Tiberius' mother in this seems wrong. According to Plutarch it had been her which brought both him and his brother up to love the plebs and the Republic.
It bothers me how English actors are always used to portray the ancient Romans or the Greeks. Even though both these were mediterranean people and not northern european. if i were to make a modern movie or documentary about them i would try to use mediteranean actors (obviousely they would need to speak english if it was for an English speaking audience) but i wouldn't be using blonde haired blue eyed brits (exaggeration) who have more in common with celts than w/ the romans.
i totally agree, i am an actor, from Scotland, but my family is from italy, and i am very dark,and they always pick english actors first,they rig the game.
really? they actually choose actors with a paler complection, on purpose, to play romans?thats such bullshit, it doesn't even make sense. everytime i watch a movie about the romans and its this pale white guy i'm thinking 'what the fuck, so we all know romans didn't look like that so obviousely i am gonna have to use my imagination and imagine a darker skinned meditteranean guy instead, cus for some reason they won't cast someone looking like that. cus they're dumb.'
I believe that it has been documented that the patricians of Ancient Rome had Nordic origins. They certainly weren't Etruscans. What bothers me is when the pleibeians of Rome, who were of many different races, are portrayed by pale-skinned Brits... this documentary does a good job of avoiding that fallacy because many of the commoners look almost Arabic.
There have been alot of things said about the origins of the patrician families. Most stories were fabricated by the various patrician families themselves, in an effort to compete with other families', equally, legendary tales. No proof on any of them, whatever the case, local DNA influence would have washed away stark contrasts in skin tones by classic roman republic, probably, and thats IF the nordic origin story were true, which it probably isn't.
wasn't rome a bit of a melting pot after they took all those slaves from all over the world?, surely the plebians would have started to resemble all kinds of peoples mixed in with the oriiginal roman stock, or maybe i'm wrong, are there any roman noses in this mind and could u tell me what a roman nose actually is anyway please, no offense meant
Even if you look at the statues and busts from the early Roman republic, when Rome was made up of its early families, their faces and noses come in all shapes and forms.
Alexander The Great had blonde hair and blue eyes, so not everyone from that region fitted the short, dark, squat stereotype. Although I agree - Romans were documented as being generally of that physicality.
many contributes it to the goths... but the goths are just like the dust that pushed a big bolder off the edge of a cliff. there are different factors one is its division into 2 empires, it weakened its center. and two is it became to big it became difficult to maintain it... Another thing connected to that is that because it was too big, the roman army alone cannot defend it so they forged allies by bribing other tribes thus decreasing their treasury...
thats an exaggeration they didn't fill the ground with salt nor did they totally destroy the city. rome was a republic built on conquest and if you destroy everything you capture whats the point?
tunisia had some of the most fertile farm land back then and particularly the area around carthage stayed profitable throughout the years of the republic and into the empire. it would have been impossible if the area had been entirely razed and sterilized
Romans were barbarians and savages; they were just very good at it. That's why the lasted so long!
TheAfroCapitalist 1 week ago
@TheAfroCapitalist
Exactly.
StellandBlood 1 week ago
2:00-2:02 gunshot?
AeroClash 3 weeks ago
@LadyAmaltheaUnicorn
Can I have part 3 please?
melbourneopera 1 month ago
@melbourneopera
if you haven't found it yet, go to my main page and click on "Ancient Rome" playlist on the right side, it's video number 11
LadyAmaltheaUnicorn 1 month ago
@LadyAmaltheaUnicorn Great job you did here; thanks.
73geneva 1 month ago
Part 3?
jamesaellis 2 months ago
@jamesaellis
if you haven't found it yet, go to my main page and click on "Ancient Rome" playlist on the right side, it's video number 11
LadyAmaltheaUnicorn 1 month ago
i realy hate a english accent with the roman generals. Normly the accent is fine but for this its just stuipid, i think an american accent would be better, still doesnt realy matter.
PretentiousPainters 2 months ago
@PretentiousPainters American accents are completely out of place in historical movies. It makes the entire movie fail automatically. I speak with a North American accent myself but in a historical setting, it just doesn't work.
mjohanss1975 4 weeks ago
@PretentiousPainters and by the way, the "roman generals" as you say arent usually using an English accent. They are speaking English with no accent whatsoever. It just sounds English who has never heard non-accented English.
mjohanss1975 4 weeks ago
Romans talking with a brit accent...is so irritating, they sound like some tedious and annoying old men
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87 deal with it
OrmpleStudios 2 months ago
Rome has so many parallels to the United States. Take heed America...
leegeorgeson 5 months ago
@leegeorgeson
America is now Rome in 400 ADE.
Vovk3 4 months ago in playlist More videos from LadyAmaltheaUnicorn
Whys rome a she it was named after a man
1975steelersfan 7 months ago
@1975steelersfan are you a homo or a dumbass
gtsgtsgt 7 months ago
@gtsgtsgt Fuck u punk ass
1975steelersfan 7 months ago
6:33 Is that historical advisor Mary Beard in a cameo role?
benny4700 7 months ago
7:10 oOOOO! In youa face! :)
bentonrp 7 months ago
carthagenians were baby killers, they got what was coming to them!
cuzcatlan36 8 months ago
@cuzcatlan36 The Romans also practised sacrifice though
fistfulofknowledge 7 months ago
@fistfulofknowledge True. God sometimes uses equally terrible nations to bring His justice to nations. He used the Spaniards to bring down the Aztecs, the Philistines to punish the Israelites, and the Israelites to bring down the Cannanites, and many nations to bring down the nazis etc.
cuzcatlan36 7 months ago
lady u are the best
allenco65 9 months ago
1:13
I'm actually surprised. This is how actual romans would have done it too.
Gezab 9 months ago
what the hell no body armour?
crazyrice33 9 months ago
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USA, USA, USA
DjDaman7 10 months ago
I came into this documentary with high hopes, but I was turned off by the cringe-inducing dialogue. TV documentaries can never compare to good books on any subject.
MrBrent123t 10 months ago
@MrBrent123t faggot
DjDaman7 10 months ago
@DjDaman7 And a hearty fuck you to you, sir ^_^
MrBrent123t 10 months ago
For a moment I thought that this was a real movie.
Best documentary ever.
tehrulez 10 months ago
pitty they put alot of money and work in theire vids and they diserve more views
Eliwtt 10 months ago
Yea if hannibal had more men, he would own italia lol, thats why the world is still retared all those fat old chubby world leaders are the dumbest people on the face of the earth, they all mak these retared decisions.
Dre020 10 months ago
@Dre020
That's questionable, just look at how none of Rome's allies broke with Rome to side with Hannibal even when Hannibal owned the Romans in battle after battle. One general and one army aren't enough to win a war of attrition, and that's what it would have boiled down to (Hannibal never tried to take Rome because he, to his credit, knew he couldn't.)
countrybluegrass 10 months ago
5 ppl r Egyptians
HargunSV 10 months ago
@HargunSV
Uh, Carthage was in modern-day Tunisia. Not even close to Egypt.
countrybluegrass 10 months ago
Had hannibal been given extra men, it would be about the carthaginan empire
plmukzx 1 year ago
Carthage deserved better
ezelite 1 year ago
They don`t wear armour because these are the roman republican soldiers. The less armoured was the hastatii, and those are who we can see here. I miss the princeps in that film, those who wore the coat of mail at that time. And the last studies affirm the romans not necesarily wore on red. Red was an expensive pigment!
dewdaw 1 year ago 8
The ground was not sowed with salt... Carthage was a major supply of grain to rome
photonbombzx 1 year ago
ha ha nice to see lovejoy from titanic here:)
TheIcelandicPatriot 1 year ago
the soilders need to be wearing red clothes not brown and they are not wearing armor
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
@lewisgunner1 They have leather armour on
photonbombzx 1 year ago
i mean the lorica segmentata
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
@lewisgunner1 this is bbc they suck ass in trying to repilcate roman armor
Memogin 1 year ago
i see
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
@Memogin well during the punic wars, rome used a well regulated militia as a military not a standing professional army
muf321 1 year ago
0:50
*Thunk*
"Hmm.. well, I guess it's good I wasn't the first person over the wall after all"
infernocanuck 1 year ago 2
the romans wore red clothes not brown these ppl need to get it right the romans look like jewish soilders
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
@lewisgunner1 red clothes came whit the army reform of marius, 13 years after the fall of carthage in 146 bc
FredDeMare 1 year ago 2
oh ok thank u very much sir
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
@FredDeMare false actually red clothes did happen to be in this time period but to add to the cruelty of war BBC just made the cloths gray
BBC sucks at replicating roman armor and uniforms
Memogin 1 year ago
@Memogin The armor and clothes in this video are much more plausible than in any other historical documentaries I've seen. Red was not a cheap dye and dyes tended to fade into grayer colors that you see in the uniforms in the video. Armor was expensive and Romans rarely used chain mail at this time: "lorica segmentata" would be issued a hundred years later.
TheTokkin 7 months ago
Where did you get this DVD? I would love a copy for my home library!
Yahsgirl66 1 year ago
"Nothing like an enemy to keep the plebs in control"?'' How just like the Americans who needed the communists then the terrorists as bogie man.
So after America started its drunken rampage across the world after 9/11, "in the name of civilization" and for the glory of the Roman (read American) people I lost all respect for America and for Ancient Rome.
Rome was filfth, and it fell justly.
And it was filth as ALL empires are evil BY DEFINITION
Strefanash 1 year ago
@Strefanash
Really? The Chinese Empire REMAINS, it's just taken a different form. Chairman Mao is no different from the first Chinese Emperor. The problem with the USA stems from WWII when FDR (jerk) allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed, to get the USA to war. The trend continued to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... The USA is full of warmonger politicians (GOP & Democrats alike). Americans need to stopped supporting either side and bring in a 3rd Party (by the people & for the people).
Francozilla 1 year ago
all this could have been solved with a friendly chess game.
paulyhart 1 year ago
06:50 "create a new enemy" like U.S created "evil muslim terrorists" after the fall of USSR... XD
CroPETROforever 1 year ago 20
@CroPETROforever If you take into consideration the fact that Islamic values are not compatible at all with the values of the civilized, skeptical, world you would see that the "evil muslim terrorists" didn't need to be created at all.
TheDavid2222 6 months ago
@TheDavid2222 and you are an arrogant bastard, islam was part of cilivisation and its advancement.
MrsFreshMorning 6 months ago
@MrsFreshMorning of course it was. In fact they were more civilized than the Medieval Christians in my opinion. But that doesn't pertain to the modern world.
TheDavid2222 6 months ago
@TheDavid2222 -- It takes a special kind of willful conceit to show-off pretentious, boorish ignorance -- What you know about Islam MIGHT fill about half of a small post-it note. Islam greatly influenced modern science & mathematics, Rennaissance, Reformation, technology from metallurgy & agriculture to irrigation & medicine, philosophy, geography, exploration, map-making, Jurisprudence & Academy. You sound like a shill for tyrants & corporate rulers who 'sold' one monstrous fraud after another.
starmanskye 5 months ago
@starmanskye I just said that they "were" more advanced than us. I'm sorry but it doesn't take all that much knowledge to see that Islam,or any other desert dogmas, are detrimental to civilization. I have nothing against Persian or Arabic peoples. They have a rich history. I do have a problem with Judaism, Islam, and Christianity though.
TheDavid2222 5 months ago
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@starmanskye Islam greatly influenced modern science & mathematics, Rennaissance, Reformation, technology from metallurgy & agriculture to irrigation & medicine, philosophy, geography, exploration, map-making, Jurisprudence & Academy.
Are you living in a fantasy dream-world? Islam of today only wants to throw civilisation back into the stone age. There are no words to describe your stupidity.
goldenscales 2 months ago
@CroPETROforever
Yeah. And before the terrorists, they created Stalin, so they will be saved from the hell of spending less then 20% of their budget on the military.
serialkiller1990 6 months ago
@CroPETROforever Now we understand why history is very important and should be held as the uptmost of importance in schools. Underanding our history prevents as from making mistakes. But hence as humans we never learn from our past and keep repeating our mistakes. Although we have advanced technology wise, greed and power still rule the world
MrsFreshMorning 6 months ago
@CroPETROforever hhhhh so true and wise =P
Khalid88Nasser 5 months ago
@Khalid88Nasser :)
CroPETROforever 5 months ago
6:40 Reminds me of what US elites are doing now: finding one enemy after another to put their citizens 'in place'.
PorkIsHalal 1 year ago
holy shit it the voice for yoda on star war
hateUhuman 1 year ago
how the fuk rome razed carthage to the ground? hav day got bulldozer in those day!
cohenrubin 1 year ago
@cohenrubin it took them 2 years to dismantle the entire city stone by stone. it made such terror towards other settlements that rome beseiged that many in the following greek wars just surrendered when they beseiged them.
sushanalone 1 year ago
Assyria was the greatest super power of the Ancient Near East, but I would say that Rome's legacy overtook theirs in the long run.
AntiquityCentury21 1 year ago
so the siege towers were just waiting there, before they charged....
chilitopmp 1 year ago
There are so many interesting parallels between Ancient Rome and the United States of today; the most powerful military machine and a culture and language that is succesfully exported globally.
Rome's decline started because the 'apple' that looked fresh and juicy to the observer was in reality rotting from the inside out.
Watch this space.........
animagus1 1 year ago
@animagus1 Its Britains language too, not just yours. -_-
AvengefulAngel 1 year ago
they never did the salt thing, in fact carthage would be the grain supplier for rome after egypt
FearAcademy 1 year ago
@FearAcademy sources?
ThePhucyu 1 year ago
@ThePhucyu I'm pretty sure FearAcademy is right
arbitrary1234567890 1 year ago
nice but you should destinguish the versions in your videos i accidently went to constantine's version
HADESRULE44 1 year ago 2
vorenus and pullo are such good characters in this I really enjoyed the show - its online at romestreamsonline^dot^info
roundcity58 2 years ago
the narrator states that even then Rome was "sowing the seeds of it's own destruction" ha ha, only after another 500 years of dominance. give me a break. as far as empires go, they had a bloody good run!
henkecelt 2 years ago
I agree. No empire or civilisation lasts forever. Half a millennium is VERY impressive.
richiebabe24 1 year ago
He meant the Republic. It didn't last much longer than this.
decidedvoter08 1 year ago
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roman cocksuckers-they didnt have to do all that to carthage.
jacksok2 2 years ago
@jacksok2
I think that if Carthage has the opportunaty made the same with Rome...
Anycase.......W Siracusa
pinnolone1978 2 years ago
perhaps...but dont think so-there is no history that shows they did that to anywhere they may have conquered not even when Hannibal was kickin their ass he didnt do that to the places he conquered in italy. oh well-they got what they desereved in the end.
jacksok2 2 years ago
Just my opinion but maybe if the Americans didn't act like they were the best thing in the world maybe everyone wouldn't hate them and want to go to war with them in the first place. The U.S. should be recruiting peacekeepers and ambassadors not soldiers and war-mongers.
windsandandstars 2 years ago
To @windsandandstars:
As hard as it may be for you to accept, not all americans support the war even though we also happ[en to be military veterans. You missunderstand Us just like the rest of the Moronic Hippie-lovin' losers. We Americans support Our troops even if we do not nessarily support the Our gov'ts reasons for the war. There's a difference nimrod.
GILR8 2 years ago
To @windsandandstars:
Most Americans like Myself do not Consider ourselves "better" than everyone else. The difference is that we acknowledge the fact that with those who have much, much will be expected.
It's not morally right to stand by with our thumbs up our asses while tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, or whoever decide to take advantage of the rest of you who are weak. We helped France, Germany, Japan & other countries after we resolve conflict.
GILR8 2 years ago
To @windsandandstars :
Both in Peacetime & in War we have helped countries such Indonesia after the tsunami, & haiti after the earthquake...& I would like to beleive we would do so again..Yeah we have arrogant ass-holes in our country, but who does'nt ??? The U.S. should not be represented by just these few arrogant ass-holes, even though you & the rest of the world would love to believe this, & see us suffer another ttagedy by dicks who hate for no reason...
GILR8 2 years ago
what are you talking about???the americans did not want to get involved in ww2 ...ooops maybe the iranians venezuelians,chinese nigerians french isralis argentinians japanese koreans pakistanis egyptians brazilians are much better than the americans thats why they are so loved ...maybe just by you...when you say americans is good to remember that even after the war ...japan..and west europe still are the most developed nations in the world
sexyintel77 2 years ago
To Monchikaable.....I am sorry for demeaning the memory of your loving brother. But I stand by the rest of my statements. That's all.
2242bzo 2 years ago 2
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Soldiers and wars today are irrelevant. Unless you wish to increase profits for corporations, then it's okay to murder babies and old women. After all, gotta watch out for those dang "terrorists", don't ya know.................Quick!!! There's a dark-skinned mama and her baby scooping water from an Iraqi mud puddle---kill them!!!!
2242bzo 2 years ago
dude fu ck you My family for generations has served in the US military including myself my own brother died for your freedom. You ungrateful fuck I like to see you show half as much courage you sick lazy ass coward you have no Idea what sacrifice is. I risk my life for people like you and people in other countries. You people are so fucking sick.
monchikaable 2 years ago
@monchikaable You are a brainwashed assassin...nothing more. And your brother didn't have to die "for my freedom",,,he got played, for I have always been free, and I will die free. Your brother threw away his life for a false notion. See ya............
2242bzo 2 years ago
there is something seriously wrong with you if you been to other counties and really first hand seen whats happend first hand ... your the brain washed one there is no way you ever served in any millitary
monchikaable 2 years ago
@monchikaable Wow. You're so smart. You seem to know everything. What are you doing on Youtube wasting your talents? You should be curing cancer or securing world peace with Clinton, Bush, or Obama. Fucking moron. MURDERING COWARD.
2242bzo 2 years ago
humans are nothing more than mindless beasts
8lsatyq 2 years ago
It seems like the producers took care to reflect the historical accuracy of the unniform. More then likely the soldiers were lightly armoured because the roman army in those days was not a professionnal army yet.
BDeiste 2 years ago 3
NO BECAUSE THERE WAS A War between GREECE AND ROME
jorp98 2 years ago
if i will be in that times i will prefered to be a spartan
jorp98 2 years ago
that was about 2-300 years earlier i think... before greece was taken over by rome...
sunnysang 2 years ago
the "fight" against Carthage 146BC was actually a slaughter of Civilians by the Romans. they killed the whole population in the city. the "hard fight in the streets" were mainly civilians fighting for their lifes.
TheUSSLiberty 2 years ago 3
Soldiers don't know the difference when worked up. Everyone is capable of barbarities. The Irish Kerns used to cut off heads and hang babies from their horses. I always want to tear someones head off when I get mad. LOL
PortRichmondCatholic 2 years ago
rome... one empire i would have been interested to live in
SchwarzundWeis 2 years ago
ya me too, although i would of prefered to live in the eastern part, the western part was fucked up.
Kirillarmas11 2 years ago
eastern i would have preffered in its later times and tried to save it from the turks
but during the high times of the united roman empire... that most have been amazing
SchwarzundWeis 2 years ago
word.
I agree with you on trying to spare Constatinople from the turks but..... at that time period ( 1453 ) the Byzantine Empire was reduced to a few cities in power. The once powerful empire was a shell of its earlier glory, wrought with corruption, betrayels and greed. The Turks were growing powerful and would only have to wait a little while longer for the Byzantines to lose out completely...i mean even their trade was blockaded...Byzantium had no military or navy in the end.
SpartanDfnder 2 years ago
i know, still would have been quite cool :-)
SchwarzundWeis 2 years ago
They still had a army and navy but not as strong as in glory days not even a bit but they still gather a 7 thousand strong army and the last emperor fougth like a true roman
ImperialGuard9001 2 years ago
@SpartanDfnder
Was this during the time of Basil ll?
crawhip2 2 years ago
If you were a soldier you would have died in battle.
If you were a peasant you would have died in the streets.
If you were an aristocrat you would have been slaughtered in your own home.
Addybattler 2 years ago
we've got a great leader called gordon brown. ain't he good enough to those leaders back then? im sure hed survive and not get killed back then by his peers.
kingofharlow 2 years ago
the razing is correct that was my bad, but the salting isn't true. it was too valuable, and rome also needed the farmland for its own use
PzVIE43 2 years ago
Rome hated the Carthaginians. A LOT. So salting the ground wouldn't have been a hard decision. Spur of the moment sorta thing. lol
edwebo 2 years ago
@edwebo dude they didnt salt the ground, it's stupid
bonaparte60 2 years ago
kinda sad evolution, hehe.
Supast4r01 2 years ago
I agree. They are all Desk jockeys in the modern world...
255Knights 2 years ago 3
damnnnnn hannibal would have been pissed.
druglover200 2 years ago 4
Hannibal would have said "see? SEE?!?! I told YOU! Next time I ask for more men f***ing do it...oh I'm dead.. nevermind"
JohnHolt69 2 years ago 51
lol
thejesusfreak919 2 years ago
How the last 10 second of this clip remind me of the current situation with the US and the cold war.
mkfk1 2 years ago 32
@mkfk1 That is because people in the film industry lack imagination and they ripped that argument, which has been an accusation made against the US on a variety of occasions, straight from modern times. It was not a vein of thought in the Roman times, as far as I ever read.
Then again, no major politician in the United States has ever claimed it as his opinion and the accusation is still levelled against them...
countertreason 1 year ago
@mkfk1 yeah politics has not changed much since then.
zrah1092 1 year ago
bvjhjugh
TheGaiusJuliusCaesar 2 years ago
i'll see u in hell grachuss LONG LIVE CARTHAGE
lion3p0 2 years ago
" Delenda est carthago ", yeahhhh
fisadhitya 2 years ago
with regards to complexion and race of actors:
totally agree that romans didn't look like this. in fact, if we were to believe the founding legend of rome, then they surely would look less pale, if they really were trojan exiles from the trojan war (modern day turkey).
however, one must understand that this series mainly has an english-speaking audience, and therefore uses english-fluent actors
redmanPH 2 years ago
Regardless of their founding legends, the fact that they lived in Italy means that they would have interbred with dark-skinned Italians, making them look tanned.
nashertheatheist 2 years ago
Right, who was whiter than the Brittons, the word "Angel" is from the Latin word Angle, meaning pale or fair, the Romans were made up of many different people, Sabines joined the young city, reluctantly of course then the Latin tribes. She was for sure the Anciant worlds melting pot. Romes break from Etruscan rule is the classic tale though, one noble Etrscan king earns great praise, he was Servius Tullius, he laid the foundations for both Rome's armies and sewed the seeds for the Republic.
italobambino43 2 years ago
Don't forget, The Etruscans intermingled with other peoples, such as latins, sabines and others form the surrounding regions. It has been proven that the Etruscans did come from Asia minor, were they from Troi, who knows? Strangely, Etruscan artwork does not indicate an accurate timeframe, no written history was ever unearthed to prove as to where the Etruscans really hailed from, although DNA seems to be very accurate..
italobambino43 2 years ago
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Well at least RTW has given more realism to the fighting scenes from these weak arse shitty mockumentaries that are made every 5 years.
pscucailin 2 years ago
i thought carthagenians wore white or grayish uniforms not yellow
skullwolf13 3 years ago 3
That's only in Rome: Total War. They simply guesses what everyone wore.
englishfrenchgerman 3 years ago
ok cause RTW is unaccurate in there history
skullwolf13 3 years ago 2
The faction in RTW that had the worst anachronistic misrepresentation was Egypt, It looked like they were from the Nineteenth dynasty in the 1100 B.C.E. when in fact the Egypt Ptolemaic dynasty was macedonized , They Would have used armies equipped and styled like those of Greece.
Obasiliasfilosofos 2 years ago 2
download tome total realism it's a mod for the game
histatimaniples 2 years ago
RTW changes the colours so you can tell which side the men are on. Yellow, grey etc are the colours of undyed-or at least cheaply dyed cloth.
nashertheatheist 2 years ago
most people watching this argue about agreeing
skullwolf13 3 years ago
They should have called in for Chuck Norris. Rome still would have fallen, after one round house kick.
MrKevMan 3 years ago
The portrayal of Tiberius' mother in this seems wrong. According to Plutarch it had been her which brought both him and his brother up to love the plebs and the Republic.
EbsNhexz 3 years ago
wow carthage fell
burken123 3 years ago
Shouldn't the grass crown be made of... grass?
AemiliaPaulla 3 years ago
He didn't win a grass crown, he won a corona muralis. They were made of gold.
The grass crown was awarded for breaking a siege, the mural crown for being the first over the enemy wall.
SLRL1A1 2 years ago
Well, it's clear and short, but a bit hostile. Does this mean we're not going to be friends anytime soon?
richrdroma 3 years ago
It bothers me how English actors are always used to portray the ancient Romans or the Greeks. Even though both these were mediterranean people and not northern european. if i were to make a modern movie or documentary about them i would try to use mediteranean actors (obviousely they would need to speak english if it was for an English speaking audience) but i wouldn't be using blonde haired blue eyed brits (exaggeration) who have more in common with celts than w/ the romans.
Salvus967 3 years ago 6
Can you elaborate on this a bit more? It is so very interesting.
richrdroma 3 years ago
go fuck yourself, hows that for some elaboration?
Salvus967 3 years ago
i totally agree, i am an actor, from Scotland, but my family is from italy, and i am very dark,and they always pick english actors first,they rig the game.
antonyvt 3 years ago
really? they actually choose actors with a paler complection, on purpose, to play romans?thats such bullshit, it doesn't even make sense. everytime i watch a movie about the romans and its this pale white guy i'm thinking 'what the fuck, so we all know romans didn't look like that so obviousely i am gonna have to use my imagination and imagine a darker skinned meditteranean guy instead, cus for some reason they won't cast someone looking like that. cus they're dumb.'
Salvus967 3 years ago
I believe that it has been documented that the patricians of Ancient Rome had Nordic origins. They certainly weren't Etruscans. What bothers me is when the pleibeians of Rome, who were of many different races, are portrayed by pale-skinned Brits... this documentary does a good job of avoiding that fallacy because many of the commoners look almost Arabic.
AemiliaPaulla 3 years ago
There have been alot of things said about the origins of the patrician families. Most stories were fabricated by the various patrician families themselves, in an effort to compete with other families', equally, legendary tales. No proof on any of them, whatever the case, local DNA influence would have washed away stark contrasts in skin tones by classic roman republic, probably, and thats IF the nordic origin story were true, which it probably isn't.
Salvus967 3 years ago
wasn't rome a bit of a melting pot after they took all those slaves from all over the world?, surely the plebians would have started to resemble all kinds of peoples mixed in with the oriiginal roman stock, or maybe i'm wrong, are there any roman noses in this mind and could u tell me what a roman nose actually is anyway please, no offense meant
Bighairyfart 3 years ago 2
Even if you look at the statues and busts from the early Roman republic, when Rome was made up of its early families, their faces and noses come in all shapes and forms.
Colleptic 2 years ago
but maybe there was some reasonign behind the roman nose steortype
Bighairyfart 2 years ago
Alexander The Great had blonde hair and blue eyes, so not everyone from that region fitted the short, dark, squat stereotype. Although I agree - Romans were documented as being generally of that physicality.
wickedwilluk 3 years ago
how has rome fall?
tommybui 3 years ago
many contributes it to the goths... but the goths are just like the dust that pushed a big bolder off the edge of a cliff. there are different factors one is its division into 2 empires, it weakened its center. and two is it became to big it became difficult to maintain it... Another thing connected to that is that because it was too big, the roman army alone cannot defend it so they forged allies by bribing other tribes thus decreasing their treasury...
yuri303030 3 years ago
rome never really fell only change hands,for a while,when they say the fall of rome they mean,when the city was took over.
antonyvt 3 years ago
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HomeTownPublishing 2 years ago
No one took over. The city was flattened.
obbabob 2 years ago
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HomeTownPublishing 2 years ago
the romans
curtuman1 2 years ago
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HomeTownPublishing 2 years ago
Carthage was completely destroyed. The entire place was supposedly sown with salt, no city existed there anymore at all.
GMatsakis 2 years ago
thats an exaggeration they didn't fill the ground with salt nor did they totally destroy the city. rome was a republic built on conquest and if you destroy everything you capture whats the point?
tunisia had some of the most fertile farm land back then and particularly the area around carthage stayed profitable throughout the years of the republic and into the empire. it would have been impossible if the area had been entirely razed and sterilized
PzVIE43 2 years ago
SPQR
antonyvt 3 years ago
The rulers will allways use an enemy to keep the plebs in there place was true then and is sertanly true today.
kingsman565 3 years ago 2
ehmm Iraq ehmm
klaifth 3 years ago