it is sad that there are people out there that just don't want to have to do anything. 1 person can make a difference, but it needs that person. They are pioneers. The ones that history actually remembers. So sit on your ass and as usual nothing will be done. It wont be funny when the bombs are flying are way. Then it will be the fault of those who allowed it.
LOL... 2005 was the height of the war in Iraq and smack in the middle of the Bush presidency... lol... I grew up in DC and watched protests all the time... protested the first gulf war (there were "thousands" there too... LOL) 10,000-15,000 usually translates to 1000 or 1500, you win, way to go. Finally, how'd that work out for you? Did you make any headlines? Bring attention to your cause? Did you stop any of the 35,000 troops from leaving for Afghanistan this year? Again, way to go... you win
@Ivannahumpalo1 Of course not, nothing changed whatsoever because the media refuses to cover it.
Notice how just a few dozen nut bag Teabaggers protest and the media never shuts up, shows this tiny protest for weeks, but get 500,000 out there protesting war criminals like Bush or illegal wars, etc and not a peep
@Nunyaabiz I'm throwing the BS flag. You didn't have 500,000 people at your protest. Bush has been gone since 2008. Face it, the left is just as bad as the right, and, quite frankly, the Teaparty represents the first real challenge to the "establishment" that we've seen in my lifetime, at least. Sucks to be outdone by a bunch of middle-class oldsters who think antiwar protesters are douchebags, doesn't it? They're doing, in a matter of months what you guys have failed to do in decades... LOL!!!
@Ivannahumpalo1 the Protest I went to Sept 24th 2005 had AT LEAST 350,000 at an absolute minimum, there have been numerous protest against Bush like the one Feb 17th 2003 there were over 500,000 in NYC alone with upwards of over 15 MILLION protesting world wide against Bush. Those are just facts, you may deny all you wish. ..Also a fact is that Teabaggers have never gotten more than about 75,000 people together and that was ONE time after over 6 months of 24/7 advertising from Faux News...
@Nunnyabizz101 LOL... you're funny. How many folks are out there now when you guys have a protest? Face it, you guys are marginalized and will continue to fail. The harsh reality is that most of the protests are not about any one cause. Go to any of them and there will be everything from communist literature to rock concerts (...Fugazi played in Lafayette Park and duped a few thousand into a anti-Gulf War 1 protest in 1991). So how many actual anti-war protesters were there?
Nut bag teabaggers have accomplished nothing also I might add.
This is because corporations own Washington DC and could not care less what the people have to say. not until there is a violent uprising will they ever listen.
@Nunnyabizz101 LOL... whatever. Incumbents who are beholden to the status quo lobbies are getting knocked off left and right because of the Tea Party. The Tea Party is actually becoming a viable alternative to the Dems, Repubs, and even the fringe like you guys... LOL. Face it, no one is listening to you because you say shrill things like "teabagger" and "war monger" and you think there are corporate conspiracies everywhere... faux anger has gotten you nowhere.
often stuck in an argument between marxists and anarchists i would hear people say i dont wanna march i want direct action and arguments in the oposite direction - dialectical two option left right type argument - i always argued there are more than two options and that what I THINK the peace movement needs to do is OUTREACH. outreach actions, peace movement gigs/gatherings/debates to persuade those who are unpersuaded and refine our own thinking while DOING something outside of our cliques
well done, brave lad, keep it up, dont even worry about those steeotypes, they disempower us by forcing us into their categories, mental projections upon us..not here to debate economic system - good - pure peace movement the least contentious approach,if we stick to that we have a good hope of the economic and power systems sorting themselves out as a consequence of the people's desire for peace.we must make them WANT peace, see the NEED for peace.remember,peace is more than the abscence of war
LOL...
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
it is sad that there are people out there that just don't want to have to do anything. 1 person can make a difference, but it needs that person. They are pioneers. The ones that history actually remembers. So sit on your ass and as usual nothing will be done. It wont be funny when the bombs are flying are way. Then it will be the fault of those who allowed it.
gsdavis6969 1 year ago
Only about 10,000 to 15,000 showed up this time.
Last few years there were any where from 50,000 to in 2005 well over 350,000.
Nunyaabiz 1 year ago
LOL... 2005 was the height of the war in Iraq and smack in the middle of the Bush presidency... lol... I grew up in DC and watched protests all the time... protested the first gulf war (there were "thousands" there too... LOL) 10,000-15,000 usually translates to 1000 or 1500, you win, way to go. Finally, how'd that work out for you? Did you make any headlines? Bring attention to your cause? Did you stop any of the 35,000 troops from leaving for Afghanistan this year? Again, way to go... you win
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
@Ivannahumpalo1 Of course not, nothing changed whatsoever because the media refuses to cover it.
Notice how just a few dozen nut bag Teabaggers protest and the media never shuts up, shows this tiny protest for weeks, but get 500,000 out there protesting war criminals like Bush or illegal wars, etc and not a peep
Nunyaabiz 1 year ago
@Nunyaabiz I'm throwing the BS flag. You didn't have 500,000 people at your protest. Bush has been gone since 2008. Face it, the left is just as bad as the right, and, quite frankly, the Teaparty represents the first real challenge to the "establishment" that we've seen in my lifetime, at least. Sucks to be outdone by a bunch of middle-class oldsters who think antiwar protesters are douchebags, doesn't it? They're doing, in a matter of months what you guys have failed to do in decades... LOL!!!
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
@Ivannahumpalo1 the Protest I went to Sept 24th 2005 had AT LEAST 350,000 at an absolute minimum, there have been numerous protest against Bush like the one Feb 17th 2003 there were over 500,000 in NYC alone with upwards of over 15 MILLION protesting world wide against Bush. Those are just facts, you may deny all you wish. ..Also a fact is that Teabaggers have never gotten more than about 75,000 people together and that was ONE time after over 6 months of 24/7 advertising from Faux News...
Nunnyabizz101 1 year ago
@Nunnyabizz101 LOL... you're funny. How many folks are out there now when you guys have a protest? Face it, you guys are marginalized and will continue to fail. The harsh reality is that most of the protests are not about any one cause. Go to any of them and there will be everything from communist literature to rock concerts (...Fugazi played in Lafayette Park and duped a few thousand into a anti-Gulf War 1 protest in 1991). So how many actual anti-war protesters were there?
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
Nut bag teabaggers have accomplished nothing also I might add.
This is because corporations own Washington DC and could not care less what the people have to say. not until there is a violent uprising will they ever listen.
Nunnyabizz101 1 year ago
@Nunnyabizz101 LOL... whatever. Incumbents who are beholden to the status quo lobbies are getting knocked off left and right because of the Tea Party. The Tea Party is actually becoming a viable alternative to the Dems, Repubs, and even the fringe like you guys... LOL. Face it, no one is listening to you because you say shrill things like "teabagger" and "war monger" and you think there are corporate conspiracies everywhere... faux anger has gotten you nowhere.
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
@ galaxy dreams... I predict less than 200 people... and say again, no one cares. Have fun with teh protest...
Ivannahumpalo1 1 year ago
@Ivannahumpalo1 There are 200 coming just from Cleveland and the surrounding area, so I can already shoot down that theory.
alanpugh 1 year ago
No one cares anymore...
Ivannahumpalo1 2 years ago
I do.. and that's why i will be there on Saturday.
galaxydreams 1 year ago
its good to know there are people out there with real common sense. i wish you the best of luck. :D
android7727 2 years ago
i put you on my peace-not-war playlist, thankyou! five stars
robtherub 2 years ago
often stuck in an argument between marxists and anarchists i would hear people say i dont wanna march i want direct action and arguments in the oposite direction - dialectical two option left right type argument - i always argued there are more than two options and that what I THINK the peace movement needs to do is OUTREACH. outreach actions, peace movement gigs/gatherings/debates to persuade those who are unpersuaded and refine our own thinking while DOING something outside of our cliques
robtherub 2 years ago
well done, brave lad, keep it up, dont even worry about those steeotypes, they disempower us by forcing us into their categories, mental projections upon us..not here to debate economic system - good - pure peace movement the least contentious approach,if we stick to that we have a good hope of the economic and power systems sorting themselves out as a consequence of the people's desire for peace.we must make them WANT peace, see the NEED for peace.remember,peace is more than the abscence of war
robtherub 2 years ago