Honestly, I have to say, I always love to see the American horses do well at the Breeders Cup. Especially in the Classic. But I think it's speaks volumes to how incredibly talented many of these European horses are that they can come to America having never once raced, much less even set foot on conventional dirt, and still come as close to winning the Classic as Giant's Causeway did in this race and Sakhee did in 2001. JMO.
@GBeret83 It's the rare horse that can run successfully on both dirt and grass. Why do you suppose some of these great European horses pass over the BC Turf or Mile to run on a surface in which they have so little experience? It's pretty obvious to me that America did not see the best that Galileo, Hawkwing, George Washington, Sakhee, and Giant's Causeway had to offer (Although they did see it out of High Chaparall, Conduit, Daylami, and Goldikova).
@daeuri, I very much agree that we've seen the best of Goldikova, Conduit, High Chaparral, and Daylami. As for Giant's Causeway and Sakhee. Considering it was both's first ever career attempt, and in the case of Giant's Causeway, his only career attempt at conventional dirt, I don't think either of those horses have a thing to feel disgraced about. Tiznow was a beast on dirt, and for both to come that close to beating him speak volumes. Sakhee ran a lot better in the BC Classic than the DWC,IMO.
@GBeret83 It just occurred to me that in 2008, Raven's Pass and henrythenavigator finished 1-2 in the BC Classic. I am just thinking that the horses I mentioned in the earlier post would be given the respect here they deserved had they competed and won in the BC Turf or Turf Mile. Correspondingly, someday I would like to see American horses truly compete in the Arc.
@daeuri, I would love it if every 4 or 5 years an American turf horse emerged that was good enough to travel to France and face the best Euro horses in the Arc. But in the US, there's so much emphasis on dirt racing and so little on turf racing. After the 3 G1 turf stakes run on the same day at Arlington Park each year, i.e., the Secretariat, Beverly D., and Arlington Million, turf racing in the US almost becomes an after thought. There's ten fold more G1-G2 stakes on dirt than turf in America.
@daeuri, By the way, something I forgot to mention in my prior comment to you. If you hadn't already noticed? Those 3 G1 turf stakes that are all run on the same day at Arlington Park that I mentioned are all usually very heavily influenced by European horses coming across the Atlantic for what a lot of the trainers in the UK, France, and Ireland consider an easy pickings payday!!
Tiznow was at his best when another horse was breathing down his neck. He was the gutiest horse I ever saw. A modestly bred California horse he fought all the blue bloods and beat them. He gave us all alot of thrills.
@Patriot751, You're 110% correct with that comment, my friend!! You never really saw the best out of Tiznow until these great European horses like Giant's Causeway and Sakhee rolled up on his outside to challenge, and then Tiznow suddenly shifted gears straight into "all heart"!!
@GBeret83 GBeret83, I was at Belmont Park the day of his 2nd Classic victory. I bet 100.00 dollars to win on Tiznow at 8.5 to 1 and I thought he was beat at the top of the stretch. Somehow, he rallied to beat Sakhee by a nose and everybody was stunned. I went to the winners circle and CJ McCarron had a look as he arrived at the winners cicle like he could not believe what this big guy did. I visited Tiznow in Kentucky in 05 and took a couple of pictures with him what awesome looking individual!
@Patriot751, Honestly, I thought Tiznow was beaten by Sakhee that day!! I think everyone watching the Classic that day did? But like you said, that's when Tiznow was at his best!! Just when you thought he was beaten!!
Tiznow is one of the greatest horses of all time. No matter what he was up against, he always found another gear and he gave us some of the greatest thrills ever, in this sport. Mad love for Tiznow.
if you watch the replay gc jocky kinane drops a rein you can see him gather it up with his right hand and finally gives him a couple of slaps with his whip just before the wire might have made a difference
Tiznow great win, but I think everyone has to admit that Giants Causeway is the better horse. Come on it's his first ever run on the surface ..... I would have love to seen GC against Tiznow on grass. Tiz would have been destroyed!
Tiznow beat a real champion on this day in Giant's Causeway. Giant's Causeway raced in 11 Stakes races in his career. 9 G1's and 2 G3's. He won both G3's. The Futurity Stakes and Gladness Stakes. He won 6 G1's. The Prix De La Salamandre, St James's Palace, Coral-Eclipse, Juddmonte International, Sussex Stakes, and Q.E.II Stakes. He was 2nd in his other three G1's. 2nd in both the English and Irish 2000 Guineas. 2nd in the Breeders Cup Classic. He also had one maiden win. Tiznow beat a great colt
everything was against the giant in tis ,all kinane had was the bravery and the guts of the giant himself
TheKilkennyhurler 4 hours ago
Giant shoulda won.
apajax6 4 months ago
Tiznow has serious heart....he dug down WAY deep for that stretch drive.
Kostly 4 months ago
Honestly, I have to say, I always love to see the American horses do well at the Breeders Cup. Especially in the Classic. But I think it's speaks volumes to how incredibly talented many of these European horses are that they can come to America having never once raced, much less even set foot on conventional dirt, and still come as close to winning the Classic as Giant's Causeway did in this race and Sakhee did in 2001. JMO.
GBeret83 5 months ago
@GBeret83 It's the rare horse that can run successfully on both dirt and grass. Why do you suppose some of these great European horses pass over the BC Turf or Mile to run on a surface in which they have so little experience? It's pretty obvious to me that America did not see the best that Galileo, Hawkwing, George Washington, Sakhee, and Giant's Causeway had to offer (Although they did see it out of High Chaparall, Conduit, Daylami, and Goldikova).
daeuri 5 months ago
@daeuri, I very much agree that we've seen the best of Goldikova, Conduit, High Chaparral, and Daylami. As for Giant's Causeway and Sakhee. Considering it was both's first ever career attempt, and in the case of Giant's Causeway, his only career attempt at conventional dirt, I don't think either of those horses have a thing to feel disgraced about. Tiznow was a beast on dirt, and for both to come that close to beating him speak volumes. Sakhee ran a lot better in the BC Classic than the DWC,IMO.
GBeret83 5 months ago
@GBeret83 It just occurred to me that in 2008, Raven's Pass and henrythenavigator finished 1-2 in the BC Classic. I am just thinking that the horses I mentioned in the earlier post would be given the respect here they deserved had they competed and won in the BC Turf or Turf Mile. Correspondingly, someday I would like to see American horses truly compete in the Arc.
daeuri 5 months ago
@daeuri, I would love it if every 4 or 5 years an American turf horse emerged that was good enough to travel to France and face the best Euro horses in the Arc. But in the US, there's so much emphasis on dirt racing and so little on turf racing. After the 3 G1 turf stakes run on the same day at Arlington Park each year, i.e., the Secretariat, Beverly D., and Arlington Million, turf racing in the US almost becomes an after thought. There's ten fold more G1-G2 stakes on dirt than turf in America.
GBeret83 5 months ago
@daeuri, By the way, something I forgot to mention in my prior comment to you. If you hadn't already noticed? Those 3 G1 turf stakes that are all run on the same day at Arlington Park that I mentioned are all usually very heavily influenced by European horses coming across the Atlantic for what a lot of the trainers in the UK, France, and Ireland consider an easy pickings payday!!
GBeret83 5 months ago
The iron horse from America goes head to head with the iron horse from Ireland!! What a great race this was!!
GBeret83 5 months ago
Tiznow was at his best when another horse was breathing down his neck. He was the gutiest horse I ever saw. A modestly bred California horse he fought all the blue bloods and beat them. He gave us all alot of thrills.
Patriot751 5 months ago
@Patriot751, You're 110% correct with that comment, my friend!! You never really saw the best out of Tiznow until these great European horses like Giant's Causeway and Sakhee rolled up on his outside to challenge, and then Tiznow suddenly shifted gears straight into "all heart"!!
GBeret83 5 months ago
@GBeret83 GBeret83, I was at Belmont Park the day of his 2nd Classic victory. I bet 100.00 dollars to win on Tiznow at 8.5 to 1 and I thought he was beat at the top of the stretch. Somehow, he rallied to beat Sakhee by a nose and everybody was stunned. I went to the winners circle and CJ McCarron had a look as he arrived at the winners cicle like he could not believe what this big guy did. I visited Tiznow in Kentucky in 05 and took a couple of pictures with him what awesome looking individual!
Patriot751 5 months ago
@Patriot751, Honestly, I thought Tiznow was beaten by Sakhee that day!! I think everyone watching the Classic that day did? But like you said, that's when Tiznow was at his best!! Just when you thought he was beaten!!
GBeret83 5 months ago
Tiznow is one of the greatest horses of all time. No matter what he was up against, he always found another gear and he gave us some of the greatest thrills ever, in this sport. Mad love for Tiznow.
afleetalex05 6 months ago
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afleetalex05 6 months ago
Giants Causeway was the biggest fighter I ever saw in my life. But this horse had always a problem when he went in front he stopped with fighting.
There are a few examples in racing history of such horses!
Great Video! Thank you for this memories!
GERMANYFrankie 8 months ago
why don't they have camera angles like this, in the stretch? that was so awesome.
eg6cvchatch 8 months ago
Tiznow was all heart. He showed up everytime when the money was on the line.
shawn415 1 year ago
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if you watch the replay gc jocky kinane drops a rein you can see him gather it up with his right hand and finally gives him a couple of slaps with his whip just before the wire might have made a difference
derv39 1 year ago
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derv39 1 year ago
Tiznow great win, but I think everyone has to admit that Giants Causeway is the better horse. Come on it's his first ever run on the surface ..... I would have love to seen GC against Tiznow on grass. Tiz would have been destroyed!
fasteddie28 1 year ago
Tiznow beat a real champion on this day in Giant's Causeway. Giant's Causeway raced in 11 Stakes races in his career. 9 G1's and 2 G3's. He won both G3's. The Futurity Stakes and Gladness Stakes. He won 6 G1's. The Prix De La Salamandre, St James's Palace, Coral-Eclipse, Juddmonte International, Sussex Stakes, and Q.E.II Stakes. He was 2nd in his other three G1's. 2nd in both the English and Irish 2000 Guineas. 2nd in the Breeders Cup Classic. He also had one maiden win. Tiznow beat a great colt
GBeret83 1 year ago
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GBeret83 1 year ago
Giants causeway, my fav horse of all time
thepoolrgoingup 1 year ago
the giant should have won. kinane dropping his reins cost him but it was still a great perfomance for a horse who had never ran on dirt
azertyuiop32 3 years ago
this is a brillant video too..
talihoya 3 years ago
what a unbelievable race, giants causeway- tough even in defeat on his first and only run on dirt.. mick kinane such a superb jockey too..
talihoya 3 years ago
@talihoya kinnane cost GC any chance of victory. Good jockey but not on this occasion
Jaygud 7 months ago