what a con! i fell for that crap in art school because it made my immature self feel superior and self-important--like i had a line on some higher knowledge that other poor souls just couldn't understand! Luckily I finally learned that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
The only impressive thing is how long Ryman has maintained this ruse!
Totally! Absolute ridiculousness. I think that the paintings done by elephants are more inspirational and talented. Search for elephant paintings on google if you don't know what I am referring to. I just don't understand how this no-tallent-ass-clown ever got into a gallery. Not creative, not talented. I could demonstrate the same thing on any construction site. This stuff just makes me laugh. And all of the aforementioned opinions are all personal opinions. But seriously? I agree.
Haha. I just don't understand why people feel drawn to this type of material. I think it is as you said previously "feel superior and self-important--like i had a line on some higher knowledge that other poor souls just couldn't understand."
It's extremely bloodless intellectual self-delusion, elitism, or both. It does call to mind the parable about the naked Emperor mentioned in a posting below.
Look! The emporor's not wearing any clothes! This is just a rich asshole with a head full of academia TAPING BLANK PIECES OF PAPER TO WALLS in exchange for works from his personal collection by artists with genuine ability from a time when such a thing as talent was admired.
I was always deeply conflicted about the 28,000 a year I pay to attend PAFA's MFA program. Now I see the good it does. Why bother to feed hungry children, build colonies on Mars, or conserve rainforest when I can not only earn a worthless piece of paper, but underwrite many worthless pieces of paper being taped to a wall!!
Precisely. Rich imposters with more clout than talent are indeed jealous of anyone with talent. We gullibly 'ooh' and 'ah' their academic pontifications as they buy their way into the stratosphere, while anyone who can actually draw is brushed aside with a smirk, with nowhere to go, because the aforementioned envious rich narcissists own the art world. All you've got to do to succeed is throw paint and cash around, throw in some hookers, and you've got your own room in the museum of your choice.
Now you can either except the nature of art...or not...but to say that art has become a status symbol in the past 100 years is just ridiculous. It has been a status symbol of power and wealth for a millenia. And I would like you to define talent...I am much more interested in free-thinkers with marginal technical ability than people with just "technical ability" and no creativity. Although don't take this comment to mean that I like this aesthetic, because that is not true at all.
Chandru:I 'm not sure what you mean by a "status symbol"?"Owning art","being an artist"?Talent doesn't exist in a vacuum, if the talent isn't expressed there are no witnesses and it doesn't exist except for in the mind.If it is expressed visually it is held-up to the history and criticism of the tradition it builds on, because art expression doesn't exist in a vacuum either.Your comment recalls Da Vinci's statement "the supreme misfortune is when skill outstrips the idea" (and vice versa?).
Hello and thank you for your message. I am rather interested what possessed you to even view this Robert Ryman video, if you think he is not a valued and important Artist as I know he is. there are millions of Artists globally that produce in general the same standard run of the mill Art. How boring.... Ryman is a "higher intelligent" gentleman.
what a con! i fell for that crap in art school because it made my immature self feel superior and self-important--like i had a line on some higher knowledge that other poor souls just couldn't understand! Luckily I finally learned that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
The only impressive thing is how long Ryman has maintained this ruse!
toiseywoisey 2 years ago 3
Totally! Absolute ridiculousness. I think that the paintings done by elephants are more inspirational and talented. Search for elephant paintings on google if you don't know what I am referring to. I just don't understand how this no-tallent-ass-clown ever got into a gallery. Not creative, not talented. I could demonstrate the same thing on any construction site. This stuff just makes me laugh. And all of the aforementioned opinions are all personal opinions. But seriously? I agree.
TheMWGriffin 2 years ago
Even judging him by his own criteria, Robert Raushenberg beat him in this silliness by doing a black painting in the Fifties, I believe!
toiseywoisey 2 years ago
Haha. I just don't understand why people feel drawn to this type of material. I think it is as you said previously "feel superior and self-important--like i had a line on some higher knowledge that other poor souls just couldn't understand."
TheMWGriffin 2 years ago
Griffin:
It's extremely bloodless intellectual self-delusion, elitism, or both. It does call to mind the parable about the naked Emperor mentioned in a posting below.
toiseywoisey 2 years ago
Ryman ist krieg
frege666 2 years ago
Look! The emporor's not wearing any clothes! This is just a rich asshole with a head full of academia TAPING BLANK PIECES OF PAPER TO WALLS in exchange for works from his personal collection by artists with genuine ability from a time when such a thing as talent was admired.
nodestudio 3 years ago
I was always deeply conflicted about the 28,000 a year I pay to attend PAFA's MFA program. Now I see the good it does. Why bother to feed hungry children, build colonies on Mars, or conserve rainforest when I can not only earn a worthless piece of paper, but underwrite many worthless pieces of paper being taped to a wall!!
woofer0doofer 2 years ago 7
Wow. Someone is sure jealous.
jeffreycollins 2 years ago
Precisely. Rich imposters with more clout than talent are indeed jealous of anyone with talent. We gullibly 'ooh' and 'ah' their academic pontifications as they buy their way into the stratosphere, while anyone who can actually draw is brushed aside with a smirk, with nowhere to go, because the aforementioned envious rich narcissists own the art world. All you've got to do to succeed is throw paint and cash around, throw in some hookers, and you've got your own room in the museum of your choice.
nodestudio 2 years ago 2
Now you can either except the nature of art...or not...but to say that art has become a status symbol in the past 100 years is just ridiculous. It has been a status symbol of power and wealth for a millenia. And I would like you to define talent...I am much more interested in free-thinkers with marginal technical ability than people with just "technical ability" and no creativity. Although don't take this comment to mean that I like this aesthetic, because that is not true at all.
chandru1103 2 years ago
Chandru:I 'm not sure what you mean by a "status symbol"?"Owning art","being an artist"?Talent doesn't exist in a vacuum, if the talent isn't expressed there are no witnesses and it doesn't exist except for in the mind.If it is expressed visually it is held-up to the history and criticism of the tradition it builds on, because art expression doesn't exist in a vacuum either.Your comment recalls Da Vinci's statement "the supreme misfortune is when skill outstrips the idea" (and vice versa?).
toiseywoisey 2 years ago
Owning art is traditional and time-honored.
chandru1103 2 years ago
Thanks for posting
I would love to have a conversation with this great artist.
Kind Regards
London Artist: Stuart Ridley
AgnesShadbolt 3 years ago
You could imagine he's as good a conversationalist as he is an artist--in which case put a wet sock on your head and you'd never know the difference.
-arti povera in philthy
woofer0doofer 2 years ago 2
Stuart:
After hearing him on the video, what could possibly inspire you to hear more (please note the numbers on the videos counter)?!
toiseywoisey 2 years ago
Hello and thank you for your message. I am rather interested what possessed you to even view this Robert Ryman video, if you think he is not a valued and important Artist as I know he is. there are millions of Artists globally that produce in general the same standard run of the mill Art. How boring.... Ryman is a "higher intelligent" gentleman.
Kind Regards
UK Artist: Stuart Ridley
AgnesShadbolt 2 years ago